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> I think human consciousness, is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself.


Was he right?
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>>214401443
NPCs exist so no
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>>214401443
nature didn't create anything
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>>214401443
Of course not. God created us in his image and likeness. We fell into sin and now need the blood of our Savior Jesus Christ to obtain salvation and inherit eternal life.
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>>214401443
>Was he right?
no, not even within the narrative of the show
he is a philosophical pessimist who thinks humanity should voluntarily go extinct
but in the end he sees a tiny glimmer of hope when they're talking about the stars
I know redditors like to LARP as him or House or Sherlock Holmes, but Rust was a broken man who managed to find some solace in the end
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>>214401443
the entire point of the season is that he was wrong
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>>214401443
Evolution is not a real thing
Nothing "evolves" into anything
Shit is here and then some of that shit dies
What doesn't die out of luck, didn't die.
We didn't need a whole ass pseudo science name for it
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>>214401443
Yeah but the show cucked out and turned him into an optimist in the last scene because the blackpill was too strong for normies. The show never actually refutes him.
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>>214401443
Mankind thinks it's somehow relevant when actually we are equally meaningful as little ant in cosmic scale.
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>>214401443
Not a mistake, just a wacky thing that happened. So whatre gonna do, cry about it, or master nature in spite of itself
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>>214401633
so africans having dark skin and europeans having light skin is just a big coincidence? being evolved for different climates makes more sense
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>>214401443
conciousness is not a byproduct of material, but the other way around. nature created something that is closer to itself.
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>>214401553
no it wasn't
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>>214401633
Retard.
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>>214401443
He's unironically correct. Humans will barely last 200K years if we're lucky which from an evolutionary biology perspective is pretty much a dud.
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>>214401443
He's wrong. Something will evolve from humanity
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>>214401443
>All health, beauty, intelligence, and social grace has been teased from a vast butcher's yard of unbounded carnage, requiring incalculable eons of massacre to draw forth even the subtlest of advantages. This is not only a matter of the bloody grinding mills of selection, either, but also of the innumerable mutational abominations thrown up by the madness of chance, as it pursues its directionless path to some negligible preservable trait, and then — still further — of the unavowable horrors that ‘fitness' (or sheer survival) itself predominantly entails. We are a minuscule sample of agonized matter, comprising genetic survival monsters, fished from a cosmic ocean of vile mutants, by a pitiless killing machine of infinite appetite. (This is still, perhaps, to put an irresponsibly positive spin on the story, but it should suffice for our purposes here.)
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>>214401673
Yes it is a big coincidence.
Nothing "evolves", it's all random mutations and luck
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>>214402010
That's what evolution is.
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>>214402019
I know.
And we don't need a psedo sciency name or application or understanding of "random shit"
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>>214401443
No, this is the natural progression of nature.
"Artificial" and "man-made" things are subsets of naturally occurring things because man is nature.
Man is, however, above the rest of nature by virtue of simple natural selection.
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>>214402038
>we don't need a name for one of the most important processes in the natural world and we don't need to be studying it
You're a retard.
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>>214401900
left wing retards and their vague wordy platitudes to avoid admitting what they are and what they seek to do (either steal/murder or do absolutely nothing)
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>>214401443
>past a certain time evolving
>a species without consciousness can be a bad thing
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>>214401673
The mutation is a coincidence. Evolution only means the death of things that didn't arbitrarily adapt.
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>>214402078
THERE'S NOTHING TO STUDY
IT'S ALL RANDOM SHIT
YOU LEARN NOTHING FROM GOING TO "STUDY" THE CASINO ROULETTE
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>>214401443
Overrated.
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>>214401443
Would love see a picture of the screenwriter behind this quote kek
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>>214402106
>The mutation is a coincidence. Evolution only means the death of things that didn't arbitrarily adapt.

Evolution by natural selection is the process where organisms with heritable traits better suited to their environment are more likely to survive and reproduce, passing those beneficial traits to their offspring. This leads to a gradual change in the characteristics of a population over many generations, potentially resulting in the formation of new species.

Evolution refers to what lives not what dies
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>>214401503
Have fun bowing down in prostration for all of eternity bootlicker. Easily the most morally bankrupt self serving religion imaginable.
>I created you to worship me
>I will not make my intentions clear nor present myself to you
>your life is miserable and you deserve hell
>I love you also
>please keep my commandments and suffer in the meantime
>I promise I'll come back I have plan trust me
>accept my son as your savior and I won't hold you responsible for the fall that happened aeons ago.
Ok
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>>214402208
The problem is evolutionfags try to sell it as a dinosaur one day shitting out a bird and a chip one day giving birth to a human. You push it too far and make it impossible for rational people to take you seriously.
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>>214402278
>b-but it's your choice, you could just do what he says
What right does he have over me?
>all morals come from God
What use are morals if God exists?
>suffering is a consequence of free will
What kind of self serving imbecile willingly allows suffering just to make us choose him as an alternative. Why should my life be beholden to his interests?

Rust was right. We are scrambling for meaning where none exists
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>>214402354
>The problem is evolutionfags try to sell it as a dinosaur one day shitting out a bird and a chip one day giving birth to a human.
No they don't
>You push it too far and make it impossible for rational people to take you seriously
You're obviously not a rational person. You don't understand what evolution is and you can't be bothered to try. Read the Wikipedia page, do anything other than typing out the bullshit you just did

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
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>>214402408
>wikipedia
No I shant read your propaganda website. Cite a credible source.
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>>214402208
>heritable traits better suited to their environment are more likely to survive and reproduce
Yes, but those changes are arbitrary. A long time ago when people started moving North, the people with the randomized gene to better absorb vitamin D through sunlight survived, copulated and produced children, those that didn't, died. The adaption did occur because of the change, it only weeded out those that didn't have the adaption.
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>>214402432
>*didn't occur
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>>214402430
Wikipedia cites sources you fucking retard, it isn't a source in itself. You're not a rational person you're extremely low iq

I've spoonfed you enough with that link that you won't read because you're afraid
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>>214402432
Your idea depends on the gene always being there waiting to be randomly useful, rather than the gene randomly evolving and being useful
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>>214402483
evolutionfag seething that I won't take his propagana website at face value lmao
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>>214402525
Yes, because that's the case. The gene not already being there would result in a mass extinction because people cannot suddenly change their genes to adapt to a new environment.
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>>214401503
God isn’t real retard. He was a person who died and never came back
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>>214401443
He kind of is, he's just too much of a dick about it. Similar to his rant at the tent church. He's not wrong, he just an asshole and dwelling too much on the negative aspects, while ignoring the positive aspects of sentience and faith/religion.
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>>214402542
show boks and propagana
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>>214402542
Being too scared to read even the Wikipedia article on evolution because you've convinced yourself that evolution is like pokemon or something

>>214402582
No, the mutation of the gene came first, from a single carrier

>After the ancestors of West Eurasians and East Eurasians diverged more than 40,000 years ago, lighter skin tones evolved independently in a subset of each of the two populations. In West Eurasians, the A111T allele of the rs1426654 polymorphism in the pigmentation gene SLC24A5 has the largest skin lightening effect and is widespread in Europe, South Asia, Central Asia, the Near East and North Africa.

>In a 2013 study, Canfield et al. established that SLC24A5 sits in a block of haplotypes, one of which (C11) is shared by virtually all chromosomes that bear the A111T variant. This "equivalence" between C11 and A111T indicates that all people who carry this skin-lightening allele descend from a common origin: a single carrier who lived most likely "between the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent". Canfield et al. attempted to date the A111T mutation but only constrained the age range to before the Neolithic. However, a second study from the same year (Basu Mallick et al.) estimated the coalescent age (split date) for this allele to between ~28,000 and ~22,000 years ago.

>The second most important skin-lightening factor in West Eurasians is the depigmenting allele F374 of the rs16891982 polymorphism located in the melanin-synthesis gene SLC45A2. From its low haplotype diversity, Yuasa et al. (2006) likewise concluded that this mutation (L374F) "occurred only once in the ancestry of Caucasians".

>Summarizing these studies, Hanel and Carlberg (2020) decided that the alleles of the two genes SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 which are most associated with lighter skin colour in modern Europeans originated in West Asia about 22,000 to 28,000 years ago and these two mutations each arose in a single carrier.
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>>214401503
Stop larping.
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>>214402814
>y-y-you're scared please read my propaganda you HAVE to agree with me
Hmmm no I don't think I will.
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>>214401666
Cry about it. Nice trips btw.
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>>214402814
>the mutation of the gene came first
And what did I say? Exactly that.
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>>214401443
This show is overrated and gay
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>>214402840
You're too scared to read a Wikipedia page because you're scared of learning. Your god doesn't exist and evolution is a scientific fact. You don't think anything

You're exactly the same as some inbred superstitious third world tribal savage. Ooh ooh ah ah
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>>214401443
I don't know what the universe is so it's hard to say
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>>214402878
But the gene wasn't always there. It randomly mutated at a particular point. People didn't change their genes to adapt. Their genes changed and as a result they adapted.
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>>214402897
>p-p-please I spent so long curating my propaganda if you don't read it all that time will have been a big waste
Haha it's ok little guy, your theory will still exist even if your shill attempt failed. You should try to have more confidence in yourself.
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>>214402960
What do you think propaganda means monkey man
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>>214402976
A word that makes you seethe uncontrollably. It's pretty funny.
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>>214401443
Just stop feeling
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>>214402944
I didn't say it was always there. I said the mutation happened randomly before the environmental stresser. Then as they moved North, those that possessed the gene prevailed while those that didn't did not.
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>>214401443
just your typical anti-human bullshit from jewish writers who think the world would be a better place if only their race was sentient like their evil book tells them is how things are suppose to be.
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>>214402897
He’s probably an obese virgin retard who only has one thing to look forward to at this point. Going to heaben, otherwise he’d shoot himself lol
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>>214402988
So you're just mindlessly saying propaganda over and over to be an annoying retard. Still not sure why you're scared of evolution
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>>214403041
You're scared of a higher being that may or may not exist.
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>>214403062
The Christian higher being is a weird cunty schizo slave owner in the sky who made us to worship him, any rational person would be afraid of that. Luckily I don't fear things that have zero evidence for existing
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>>214403081
>i-i'm not afraid but you HAVE to believe in my theory please please believe me
Your desperation only makes your beliefs appear weaker.
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>>214403115
Nah your cringey stutter typing just shows how weak your argument is. You deliberately misrepresent what evolution is, show everyone your fear of actually reading what evolution is on the most neutral website you could read about it on, spam the word propaganda just to be annoying, now you're upset that I exposed your embarrassing slave religion for what it is

I'm just slapping you over and over
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>>214401640
Rust and Marty save the day thoughbeit. Two members of the Tuttle family are dead and unable to continue their murderous pedophilic rituals.
The true detectives won.
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>>214403163
Ok ;)
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>>214401443
yep, we're on the top of the food chain and can't deal with it, which is why we create concepts like good and evil and divine justice, we are a self aware self destructing species for the sole reason that we are limited by our biological needs and problems, if you really think about it we are a mistake
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>>214401503
>still living in accordance with some arbitrary rules that some Jewish guy came up with 2000 years ago to fool people into treating him like a God
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Pizzalotto just plagiarized Thomas Ligotti
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>>214403041
As a Jew Christianity is such a massive religion because it taps into the low self esteem of humanity. From the very beginning it tells its followers they suck
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>>214403502
Of course a jew would think that he is smarter than his God. Better check that string around your city before God figures out you tricked him.
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>>214401443
Time will tell, won't it
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>>214401633
I had this thought independently and I think you're pretty cool anon.
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>>214401443
evolution doesn't exist, so no
>>214401503
/thread
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>>214403580
*of course phrased in this way people are primed to knee-jerk assume you're being some creationist retard, but I think that just makes it cooler
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do you think there are mutant animals that are born with consciousness like out of 1 in a billion dogs born are cursed with self awareness
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>>214401633
Viruses evolve into new strains.
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>>214403463
What was his frickin problem?



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