Is this map realistic?
>republic of california
>>214483787They deliberately made it stupid to get people talking.In the case of any balkanization it's likely that California will team up with other pacific states.Texas is its own thing.Florida has no way of exerting its stupidity past its borders.The northeast and chicago is likely to stay somewhat united.The rest of the US would be split in the center-west flyovers (fairly conservative and rural) and the "south" (evangelical)
Oh wow, so he knows absolutely nothing
>>214483787There's no realistic way to have another civil war here. We all live together and there are no geographical lines to draw. Also, the average American isn't going to have anything to fight over. Trannies and pronouns aren't really that big a deal even to those who oppose them. No one's going to quit their job and risk their life to defend the right to be more racist. lolChuds can dream I guess.
>>214483846What a nepo baby
>>214483787So, what did the western forces and florida alliance even do in the war? the movie made it seem like it was just loyalist states getting BTFO by California and Texas.
>>214483787Yes
>>214483846Another British shitter.
>>214483787>214483787no.
>>214483845The instant there’s any balkanization California breaks into at minimum five smaller states, all of which hate each other to some degree but who will temporarily ally to ensure Los Angeles is reduced to burning ruins. Anything else beyond that is unpredictable chaos>t. lives here
>>214483787California would only leave the Union if the President is a republican dictator. The US could be split in half with the Rockies forming a natural barrier between the US and California. In that scenario I doubt the South, Florida and Texas would want to secede, unless the President is forced to flee to the southern states that support him, then the South secedes from the Union again. California and its allies eventually join the Union again after the South secedesI've noticed that Americans can't keep track of multiple teams at once. It's why their politics is like sport teams dem vs rep. In the case of collapse and civil war the sides will eventually simplify into a right-wing territory vs a left-wing territory. Both sides will each claim to be the real United States
>>214484060IRL only cities matter, no one cares about your flyover home in the middle of a cornfield
>>214483945you're right that nobody is going to war over pronouns. but the union could collapse for legal / constitutional crisis reasons or if the president becomes a dictator. some states would secede in protest then the elected officials would force people into war
>>214483846>University College SchoolWhat kind of fake ass name is that
>>214484060For context, each blue tile has ~100x the population of a red tile
>>214484260Until your supplies are cut off and you're stuck with millions of people without food. And before you say anything the majority of the military hates you and wouldn't take your side.
Wasn't the point of the movie chud
>>214484323Flyover states grow cash crops that are currently rotting in the fields because China no longer wants to buy US basedbeans.Food is grown in the California central valley
>Western ForcesIt's called the Northwest American Replublic, you philistines.
>>214483787how does Cali and Tex conduct trade or any business?are they allowed to travel through other states?i have not seen the movie
>>214483787No but you have to understand, the director of this movie was British, they're used to partitioning nations with no rhyme or reason to them
Didn't they deliberately make it incomprehensible in an attempt to not map it 1:1 to current right/left politics?
>>214483787Just cut to the chase and show me pictures of Cailee Spaeny's butt
>republic of californiais it a real republic or republic like the soviet countries were ?
Why is California obsessed to seccede? Isn't the state full of woke libtards? Or is California actually a right wing state?t europoor
>>214483787No, the mercator projection is not intended to be realistic.
>>214484480I'm actually embarrassed at how unfunny this is
>>214484487It was not intended to be. I was answering the question.
>>214484336California barely produces more food than Iowa alone, and they are completely dependent on Colorado for water.
>>214484461North California is conservative, South California is liberal. Both sides hate each other.
>>214484336So? They can grow other crops instead, the point is that all of the infrastructure to the major cities will be cut off and when you run out malt liquor and menthol cigs there'll be riots and cannibalism.
>>214484323Singapore exists anon, citystates are well established. California would easily survive, just like New york. The military is just welfare for the able bodied.
>>214484610>California would easily survive, just like New yorkNew York isn't a desert.
>>214484610Yes and they are 100% reliant to naval trade. What happened to singapore when the japs cut off their naval routes?
>>214484642>What happen when thing that happen 100 year ago happen againI don't know anon. No one fucking does.
>>214484633>Can't have water in a desert coastal city
>>214484480based aspie humour
>>214483787I think a big chunk of the easy would have been bolstered by EU and Canada unifying the western forces with it. Florida, Texas and loyalist states would be a confederated group. There wouldn't be a florida alliance in my mind though, it would all be confederated.
>>214483787What about the race and ethnicity card? Even in the movie that White soldier was more eager to kill Chinese and Latinos then two White women. In a real war there is probability that Latinos on the South East would turn on both White Conservatives and White Liberals. Numerous Blacks in the South would rebel against the White's. Some more organised groups like Somalis,Vietnamese,Haitians and Cubans might create their own militias and fight everybody else. Things might end up like in Syria or Yugoslavia with a bunch of warlords controlling smaller turfs.
>>214483787No, chuds have already proven they're too afraid to do anything, even after their racial heroes get murdered in broad daylight.Civil War will never happen because rightoids think killing your enemy means they win.
>>214484651>What happens to an isolated area with high population density and next to zero food production gets isolated?>I DON'T KNOW BRO! LIKE HOW COULD WE?The same thing that happened for thousands of years over and over. I mean shit, look at Gaza now. It's happening today, at this moment.
>>214484762>He thinks that those cities would be navally blockaded to not receive aid when international forces would obviously intervene to provide aid and supplies.Anon Russia couldn't take Ukraine in a week. Some Alabama hicks aren't conquering California in a month.
>>214484747Supporting Israel isn't 'right wing' you idiot, right wingers reject Israel AND Islam.
>>214484762>next to zero food productionCalifornia doesn't make enough food to feed the country, but it makes more than enough to feed California
>>214484784What international forces? Its US that loves to intervene all over the world. UK and France are even closer to their own Civil Wars,and Russia and China would not want New York and Cali to win. Or you expect great ally of Israel to help anyone?
>>214484822>Rightwingers aren't pro Israel!>That's why we will die at any opportunity to defend it!Shut the fuck up you dress wearing yuro
>>214484281Wait until you realize it's a high school. It's almost as if his life was made to fit the movie.
>>214484827Where's California going to get its water from
>>214483787Which side wins in the movie?Which side are the main characters even from?
>>214484784Who will send those supplies? Who wants to get dragged into a civil war? What ships will they use? What capabilities are they willing to risk against anti ship and air? Enemy submarines?
>>214484865Those people are not right wing you bootlicking moron, right wingers are nationalist. A nationalist would want all dual citizens removed from their government. If you support Israeli dual citizens in the US Congress you're not right wing.
>>214483787>no revived Confederate States it would really be like 100+ different groups all claiming to be the "true" successor to the Confederacy killing each other in power struggles but sooner or later they would either form into a coalition or one faction would become strong enough to subdue and assimilate the others but that's beside the pointBOOOOOOOOO
>>214484931So Trump and the majority of the republican party aren't right wing
>>214484260and who do you think works those cities? you do understand that most of a city's workers commute from the red areas every day, right? no, a bunch of niggers on welfare do not in fact contribute to a city's economy
>>214484663Not when you get your water from the people you are at war with.
>>214484294with an average iq of 70 and most being useless eaters
>>214484784Cut off their water and California will surrender in less than a week.
>>214484461its not, thats texas.>>214484508dont listen to this retards opinion. Hes not from California and doesnt live here.
>>214483787The 'Florida Alliance' would get an IMF bailout in a month
>>214484931>Actually you're not right wing if you <schizo head canon>Your party is first and foremost concerned with Israel, that's why they sent a white man to kill Kirk, because he was going to flip.
>>214484633another flyover shithole anon doesnt live in california but for some reason knows how it california is.
>>214483787I don't think so. The Californian coastline would be its own thing, or be with Oregon and Washington, and inland would probably merge with Nevada + allied states, including Idaho, Montana, Arizona, Utah, perhaps Texas (if they were not on their own), and the rest of the flyover states plus former south. The northern states would probably be with the East Coast, who, would probably also be aligned with the West.
Hard to see any situation where the west coast states don't combine. It would instantly be a high tech world power with thousands of nukes, intellectual capital and tons of unexploited natural resources.
>>214484906That's the thing. It doesn't matter.
>>214484134Yeah, if anything, LA is something the entire United States can hate, save for New York.
>>214484984brown hands typed this post
>>214484984This is literally a rainfall map from the National Centers for Environmental Information website
>>214484336The central valley is also conservative.
>>214484996>The Californian coastline would be its own thing, or be with Oregon and Washington, and inland would probably merge with Nevada + allied states, including Idaho, Montana, Arizona, Utah, perhaps Texas (if they were not on their own), and the rest of the flyover states plus former south. The northern states would probably be with the East Coast, who, would probably also be aligned with the West.>more retarded flyover shitholes talking bad about californiawrong, California will always be united. Sure we talk shit "no-cal is better than so-cal ect" but we love being from california and are proud of it. We have some retarded rednecks up the oregon cali border but they will get dealt with and im sure they would be pissed off now that trump took away their hospitals in the big beautiful bill.
>>214484871The San Diego and South Bay military bases will coerce Colorado to give us all their water
The Florida Alliance would win, easy.
>>214484633Also true that most of the water is in the north. The Shasta Dam goes kaputz and how does SoCal drink water?
>>214483945>There's no realistic way to have another civil war here.Literally every fucking civil war in human history was preceded by this very statement.Make no mistake, it CAN happen here and it WILL if we, as a society, ignore the warning signs.
Reminder that most of the US nukes and the subs that use them are in Washington. Along with Boeing and Microsoft. Hard to do much when a pushed windows update destroys 3/4 of your legacy infrastructure.
>>214483945There's no realistic way to have a civil war here. They all live together and there are no geographical lines to draw.
>>214485070>Literally every fucking civil war in human history was preceded by this very statement.no they weren't
>>214483787>Is this map realistic?no. the majority of military power is in the South now. California would be carved if not conquered by Southern states due additional farmland and tech industry ownership.
>>214485035so? yet for some reason California is the #1 agricultural state in the U.S. We also for some reason got some rain in 2023. California is also building desalination plants.
>>214485120Cali literally has the highest number of personnel of all states and 30 major bases...
>>214485132But they're not libshits. Enemies within.
>>214485139they're all vaxxed, the control chips will take over
>>214485052I live in NorCal... Ever heard of the State of Jefferson? Everything North of Sacramento (and just outside of Sac), plus the central valley and of course the desert, are categorically against the coastals. Even some cities on the coast (Huntington Beach comes to mind) are pretty conservative. The coastals are practically a different species altogether.
This nigga >>214484742 knowsThe OG American Civil War was an incredible aberration in that it was largely a straightforward conventional war between two functioning states. Most other civil wars, especially ones in large multiethnic countries, wind up degenerating into sectarian-based warlordism with paramilitaries killing people for wrongthink/settling old scores and proxy warfare between foreign powers.
>>214485132That's just because of population density. And almost every Californian i knew in the army hated their state and would gladly liberate it from their retarded politics. Plus the personell stationed in California come from all over the country, they're mostly not Californian.
>>214485132Military would probably split by race and political affiliation. Also,most of the soldiers are serving outside their home States,so their first intention would be to return home.
>>214485166vaxxedcontrol chipsorder 66
>>214485120>tech industry ownershipCalifornia hosts key tech and aerospace companies that are critical to national defense. Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon facilities dont forget californias Silicon Valley's influence on cyber warfare and AI.i just love flyover shitholes are so jealous and intimidated by california.
>>214483846>>214484281>Where's my degree from you ask?>Super prestigious place, you've probably never even heard of it>It's called... uhhh...
>>214485104>Vera, a poet and newspaper editor in her 50s, was convinced that war would never come to Bosnia. Even in 1991, the year before the war began, with the Yugoslav army shelling towns on Croatia’s Dalmatian coast, with the Yugoslav army besieging the eastern Croatian town of Vukovar, Sarajevans did not believe that war would come to their beautiful city nestled in the mountains. War in Bosnia? No way, said Vera. It was too mixed up: Muslims, Orthodox, Catholics, Jews, all living together and intermarried. Vera was Croat. Vera’s former husband was half Croat and half Jewish. Drago, a retired economist and bank director, was Serb. Upstairs in Vera’s apartment building lived a Jewish-Croatian Bosnian and his Muslim Bosnian wife and their mixed son. The whole building was like that.Feel free to real the whole articlehttps://theintercept.com/2020/10/25/bosnia-war-us-election-politics/
>>214484461When president red, California wants to secede. When president blue, Texas wants to secede.
>>214485183>order 66Figures some cali fag is a star wars sói
>>214485150>I live in NorCal... Ever heard of the State of Jefferson?so do i (831) that made up bullshit state that redneck fantasies about? like i said they would get in line or be dealt with. As for those small pockets of conservative cities they will also get dealt with. Like i said california is very united and even more now with trump rhetoric. You might be one of those retards that doesnt feel that way but you will still lose.
>>214485195>californias Silicon Valley's influence on cyber warfare and AI.All full of duplicitous literal rootless cosmopolitans whose first impulse when the shooting starts is to flee overseas where they're not going to risk having a car bomb go off in front of their corporate headquarterst. have worked at one of these very companies
>>214485244>Monterey County, San Benito County, and Santa Cruz CountyChecks out.
>>214485245will just have to find out and see
>>214485101>5 different ethnic groups, often with different languages>3 major religions with dozens of off-branches that all hate eachother>artificial borders drawn by imperialist outside powers>no common historical or cultural narrative>too weak to defend itself against outside influences>located in an area that is generally filled with conflict that tides over into your neighborhood easilysyria was doomed to fail. america has none of these problems, and despite all the memes about division, a unique common purpose and narrative between all americans exists. there won't be a US civil war in your lifetime.the 60s were a lot worse in terms of racial tension and political extremism, get a job and be useful in your own neighborhood instead.
>>214485261yes the beautiful central coast, the farmland.
>>214484365yes. that was the point of California and Texas leaving the union and working together. If you only have one, you can call it right-wing/left-wing rebellion.
I think one of the main issues with this is that people are just way too unmotivated, lazy and distracted for this
>>214485261Checks out as in "you're the coastal that everyone hates" Although parts of Santa Cruz can be pretty conservative as well.
>>214485279>>5 different ethnic groups, often with different languages>>3 major religions with dozens of off-branches that all hate eachotherWhy are you being racist? Diversity is a strength.
>>214483787No because there won't be a civil war in the US in the near future, it would require too much concentrated effort and will to materialize.A civil collapse is a much more likely alternative since the conditions for it are far easier to achieve.
>>214485279From those 6 points you mention, The US has 3.>5 different ethnic groups, often with different languagesThere are places where people don't even speak english or barely at all.>3 major religions with dozens of off-branches that all hate eachotherJust in christianity alone you have many divisions, then you have the divisions in the other two desert religions, plus all the other quirky religious cults, pagans, weirdos, and atheists.>no common historical or cultural narrativeMany of these immigrants or religious groups couldn't care less about patriotism and the historical origins of the nation, they just came to the country to get cheap stuff and money.
>>214485279What makes an American?If an anchor baby is born and is raised somewhere else and does not speak English, is that person an American?
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>>214484480That's not a mercator projection, retard. You can tell because lines of latitude aren't straight.
>>214485302nothing will happen because 99% of the anger end energy is let out online now. You also get instant reaction from people (by agreeing or disagreeing with you) that makes you feel good and now you just want to repeat that. life is way too comfortable for the average american to ever try to start a civil war.
>>214485337the 14 Amendment says so its just up to you if you want to welcome him or not
>>214483787No and that's deliberate
>>214485387I specifically said "American".Not "American citizen".You do not have basic fucking reading comprehension.
>>214485378No war is started by average people, anon. They just come and you are forced to fight, die or run and maybe die the same.
>>214483945The closest thing to a civil war the Americans can somewhat realistically get should the cycle of political polarization and decline continue is an increased state of anarchy and sectarian violence which could lead to a societal breakdown or collapse.
>>214485387Lol illiterate retard
>>214485206cooked that little retard>>214484651caught another retard in the wild. anon provided the perfect example of a city state being cut off from imports. you go, "WELL WE CANT REALLY KNOW FOR SURE!" What magical device has been invented to prevent this? a fucking nuke? log off this subreddit u fag. go back to 4chan
