The release of this movie was the high water mark of the golden age of american entertainment and culture.The high energy blockbuster era peaked and turned to self-parody and it never recovered. The exuberance and positive charge of the 80s slowly turned into increasingly cynical and nihilistic works with dubious morality.Cartoons started having grotesque style, music become mopey and whiny, decadence and rot set in. Irony and post-irony became the norm.
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>>214484259>last action hero was critically pannedjust in case you thought they were ever right about anything
RUBBER BABY BUGGY BUMPERS
>>214484259Would it surprise you to know this movie has a pinball adaptation?pinballmap.com
>>214484259>Millennials believe this
I remember this shitty thread
>>214484259It was the high watermark in that it was an era where even an underwhelming blockbuster would still be a well-made, entertaining watch full of great scenes and one liners. Doesn't happen anymore.
>>214484859I don't. What happens next?
>>214484554I was at a local arcade, and the guy had a collection of like, 30 fucking pinball machines. No it wouldn't surprise me, there's a pinball machine for almost every famous American movie.
>>214484259and the critics didn't even get it, that's the cherry on topthey fucked over McTiernan good and then they sicked the government on him too
>>214484259Last Action Hero is good. but Arnold's best movie is Junior.
>>214485346the remake where elliot page had a baby was really weird, looking back
>>214485346MOMMA
>>214484259He really was The Last Action Hero
>>214485346That's not Conan the Barbarian or Conan the Destroyer.
>>214484259>>214484414It’s difficult because you cast Arnold in your 90s action movie and EVERYONE thinks he is the star. Instead it’s a nobody kid actor as the lead who openly talks about movie cliches indirectly to the audience. I think it works as a coming of age story about a boy who lost his Dad and filled the father figure with action movie stars
>>214484259The movie failed to do better probably because of the editing, considering it was famously still being filmed ONE WEEK away from the premiere. It's way too long so the self-awareness kinda crosses over from playful to a bit grating and self-satisfied.Also the kid is annoying as fuck.
>>214486076>kid is annoying as fuckWrong. In another dimension he is the type to invent baneposting
>>214486095Which explains why /tv/ would want to believe he's not an obnoxious little faggot
>>214486115You cannot deny he would be one of us
>>214486095Did they cut some proper character arc scenes for him? His issues introduced in early scenes seem shrugged off later on to focus on his relationship with Slater, but by the end of the movie his escapism mindset feels validated more than challenged.
>>214484414Yeah this film rules, the over the top stuff is hilarious. Having Arnold do the parody of the action hero was a great move because it wouldn't have been the same if it was later without him.
>>214484259Close, but "True Lies" from 1994 was the summit of blockbuster entertainment. And everything Arnold has been in since has been shit. I can't even remember what happens in "End of Days" or "Eraser".
>>214484259American culture? sounds like a great idea!
>>214486868You're just a simp for some Jewish pussy.
>>214484259It was meta before meta. Similar to New Nightmare, which came out literally one year later. Last Action Hero is incredible and is arguably a Top 10 Arnold film of all time.
>>214484554Yup. I love that game. I’m a huge pinhead and play it frequently at my local pinball spot.
Pick your top 5 Arnold kinos
>>214484259its only good in hindsightthis came out the same year as Jurassic Park, Groundhog Day and others. This was considered slop in comparison.Nowadays this is a masterpiece though
>>214484259stop trying to gaslight everyone into believing it's good. it sucks. sorry it doesn't fit your narrative.
>>214487313Imo it's the opposite: only in context it was good. In hindsight the freshness of the meta aspects doesn't cover anymore for the horrible flaws of the movie in general.
>>214486984PredatorCommandoKindergarten CopThe TerminatorConan The Barbarian
>>214486984Total Recall, Commando, Last Action Hero, Kindergarten Cop, Predator
>>214486984based
>The release of this movie was the high water mark of the golden age of american entertainment and culture.>The high energy blockbuster era peaked and turned to self-parody and it never recovered. The exuberance and positive charge of the 80s slowly turned into increasingly cynical and nihilistic works with dubious morality.Cartoons started having grotesque style, music become mopey and whiny, decadence and rot set in. Irony and post-irony became the norm.
>>214484259>1993A bit early.The whole PC and internet thing extended the period with a little less than a decade, even if mostly outside of cinema.
>>214484259Plenty of good cartoons in the nineties still. Batman, MiB. Of course you had the poorly drawn sit like Hey Arnold en Real Monsters too.
>>214486984conan the barbariantotal recallpredatortrue liesterminator 2
>>214484259This movie was the last feature film appearance of Art Carney
>>214488193Who's Art Carney?
>>214484554That's cool
>>214484259I'm the famous comedian Arnold Braunschweiger
>>214486076>Also the kid is annoying as fuck.Shane Black basically called him out as the single biggest flaw of the movie. I generally don't have a problem with kid actors but he just doesn't work.
>>214486984T2Total RecallThe TerminatorTrue LiesPredator
>>214488218Comedic actor most known for The Honeymooners
>>214486115He's pretty much me in high school and looking back, I can see why I wasn't popular.
>>214486115Fuck you.
last action hero was actually a good bit after the peak, where none of the jokes were fresh, because they'd all been made before by direct parodies like loaded weapon and naked gun, movies that weren't burdened by child actor who's only line was "CUZ DIS IS A MOOOVEEE" repeated over and over.
>>214488294>No you see my movie was great, it was this one guy's faultIt's pretty lame when they do that sort of thing (specially when the scapegoat is a kid ffs).
>>214485346nice b8 anon
>>214489445you forgot about Hercules in New York
>>214484554>Would it surprise you to know this movie has a pinball adaptation?no not it all. there's an arcade about 10 minutes down the road from me that has it. it's actually a great pin. super fun. it's got a big ass super-magnet under the middle of the playfield, and when you get multiball, it starts SLINGING THEM everywhere
>>214486964what are your current favorite pinkinos? i've been playing a lot of King Kong lately. super fun pin. Godzilla is always in heavy rotation (got my highest score the other day). john wick is pretty fun, but it's a really fast game
>>214488294I disagree and think he's good. Suits the role of a kid who's a bit too smart for his own good but not as smart as he thinks he is.
>>214489829Good point.
>>214489829i think he SUCKS
>>214489434kids can suck bro.
would have been a better movie if the entire thing took place in the fantasy world
>>214489434In fairness to Black he was fired from the movie early then asked to come back and fix it when it fell apart, so I could understand him being critical>>214489829It's a decent performance but it's just not right for the movie. He's supposed to idolise Schwarzenegger and action movies but instead of being on the same page they play him like a nagging foil who just makes fun of everything
>>214490088i do agree about the kid, but the scene where they're both getting yelled at by the police chief is pretty funny
>>214484259There's probably only two kids that weren't insufferable in action movies. One's Edward Furlong and the other one is Gabriel Damon.
>>214490088I don't remember him having a hook machine in the movie, lol. I doubt there's even one in the movie at all.
>>214490182'90s toys taking liberties with movies they were based on was par for the course
>>21449018290s action figures always had to have a stupid gun/launcher type attachment. look at the old jurassic park toys
>>214490088They're a buddy duo so he's supposed to. Danny's haughty attitude in the movie world where he suddenly feels like he has more control over things due to his movie knowledge contrasts Slater's secret disillusionment with his life and when they return to the real world you have Danny's unhappiness with his own life that he tries to escape from contrasting Slater's actual interest into this new world as escape from his own routine.
>>214490501>no you don't understand it was grating on purposeit was a mistake to have the kid do nothing but try to convince people in a movie they're in a movie.
Ok Ive decided to watch this for the first time and so far with the kid magically entering into the movie I think it must be a metaphor for how kids and people might embrace fantasy as a way to cope with trauma. His dad is dead, his mother is poor and he just survived a burglary and hostage situation. The mythical symbolism of the cinema is a nice touch too invoking the whole hero theme.
>>214490553It's not grating. It's literally the comedy of the movie and why it's entertaining.
>>214490613Shut the fuck up and watch the movie.
>>214490616>being told what you, the viewer, already know, by an obnoxious kid is comedyat this point I have to whip out the ESL card, as that's the only way you could not find the kid obnoxious.
speaking of fantasies about action movie heroes
>>214490553Exactly. Almost as soon as the kid gets in the movie he basically starts being a dick and complaining about how fake it all is. He's needlessly and disparagingly explaining the joke rather than letting it happen and rolling with it.
>>214490767>needlessly and disparagingly explaining the joke rather than letting it happen and rolling with it.or even better, having more than a single moment where his knowledge of the nature of the reality benefits in some way.
>>214490767That's why a certain /tv/ minset identifies with the character. He doesn't really enjoy movies; they simply represent a simplified and predictable reality he can feel superior for understanding.
>>214490857>disparaginglyAll I can think of is the scene where he gives Slater the idea about the nerve gas, unless that's the one you meant
>>214490918the crane is a very cool mech, but the thingy on the top right that's supposed to shoot the ball upwards into the ramp ALWAYS breaks. my buddy owns/maintains all the machines in my area. he says it's a massive pain in the ass.
>>214490857>>214490918Well he does direct Slater directly to the bad guys' manor, though technically what he achieves with that is putting everybody in danger sooner than they should.I'm not sure if they thought that far, but ultimately the fact remains that the Universe the kid ends up in represents the narrative of the film, so Slater WOULD have basically achieved everything the kid "helps" him to achieve anyway. If they wanted for the presence of the kid to have some sort of actual impact on that world, maybe they should have dropped hints that this was kind of a low-on-gas sequel and Slater was being retired and killed-off, with the kid actually turning the tables on the narrative and helping him survive? Idk, as I said they probably didnt' put that much thought into that.
>>214491085>shane black>not putting thought into a script
>>214486984What movie is 3rd down on the first column. Arnold wearing black glasses and holding shotgun?
>>214490918>>214484554what board would i even go to to talk about pinball?
>>214491364traditional games most likely
>>214486984conan arniet1 arniet2 arniepredator arniecommando arnie
>>214491085>Well he does direct Slater directly to the bad guys' manorThat was because he'd literally seen it in the movie earlier, not necessarily through his knowledge of the genre, which is the kind of thing the movie should have included more of>>214491364I don't think we have one sadly
>>214484259It's a shit movie
>>214484414You're not selling just how fucking stupid the critics were. Being panned is one thing, sometimes movies just get unlucky, with The Thing being a prime example of timing fucking over a great movie.No, what's utterly unforgivable is that they were so fucking stupid that they didn't realise it was a parody.
>>214491353Kindergarten Cop. An absolute classic.
>>214489829As proven by the molestation scene.>YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE TOUGH HUH? WATCHING MOVIES AND SHIT!
>>214486984The TerminatorPredatorTerminator 2Raw DealCommando
>>214491353Are you retarded
>>214494032No it's not.
