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Which film best depicted this monumental moment?
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>>214508383
Isn't it to really for americans to be posting?
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>>214508423
too early
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>>214508354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2AS6JX2UDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCNgvPHhX14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgUPSBZV_pM
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>>214508786
Ah Rome series

jewtube has a serious problem where if you try to look up anything historical like this you get hundreds of low effort shitty AI garbage
What the fuck happened?
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>>214508354
The moment the republic died, and that was GOOD thing
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>>214508423
probably some flavor of turd still having a metly from the porn thread
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>>214508853
they changed the algorithm to combat chud misinformation and now you just get Mr Beast, CNN and AI voice over slop
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>All white female toddlers blacked raw by 2040
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>>214508910
Whatever happened to history channel ancient Rome documentaries?
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>>214508944
They might still be on youtube it's just so difficult to find stuff now. I watched Francis Prior's Britain BC and AD not long ago on there
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>>214508944
the American audience happened, now is all about retarded aliens slop and a show about people getting scammed by some fatso on a pawn shop
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>>214508944
Zoomers don't even know what documentaries are anymore let alone watch them.
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>>214508890
The irony is that the Republic could have still been salvaged, but the elites were too arrogant and autistic which prevented them from dealing with Caesar in an intelligent way. They unironically should have let him go try to conquer Parthia instead of murdering him.
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>>214509009
because good documentaries don't tell you who the bad guys are and try to humanize historical figures. zoomers hate that.
but to be fair many tv documentaries are also too slow and shallow for my taste, hard to find good ones.
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>>214509065
I remember back in the day my favorites were stuff like Battle 360
Very informative, really cool visuals, covered so many topics form ancient to modern wars and stayed compacted to an hour. Now that was good watching back then.
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>>214509033
looking at how augustus managed to cement his rule and that a hundred years even after disasters like late Tiberius, Caligua and Nero, there was no strong desire to return to a republic when the chance was greatest, would indicate that everyone with passion for the republic died in Caesars war or the Liberators war and did not hand any of it to the next generations.
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>open up documentary
>instant soft male British voice
top sign that you're about to be in for kino
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,>They unironically should have let him go try to conquer Parthia instead of murdering him.

>Let Ceasar go to Parthia
>"who knows, maybe he will get Crassus'd too"
>he doesn't
>instead he goes veni vidi vici again
>the cult of Caesar becomes real
>plebs go into full worshiping mode
>they break down the senate doors and kill everybody
>Rome renamed into Caesarpolis
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>>214508786
>Crossing the Rubicon
was it actually fording a river? i know the meaning behind the act/event but i always assumed there was a bridge or something
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>>214509275
The Rubico river was a really small river. It more just marked a boundary like crossing a country border
Hell given the way news travelled at that time, the actual act of Caesar and his armies crossing the river was probably as mundane as could be just walking across some shallow water as the runners spreading the news of the act probably didn't even reach Rome until a week later
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>>214508944
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuPmbAiTys7_rLemaeAyjcWwlAc095Coq
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>>214509305
>The Rubico river was a really small river.
the river is still there, you know
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>>214509381
Is there a bridge over it now?
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>>214509395
to stop future caesars, there's a tunnel under it
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>>214509474
hilarious
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Rome was more kino when it was a republic
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>>214509671
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>>214509688
>blocking your own escape route with your own carts
So this is the power of girlbosses
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>>214509141
>augustus managed to cement his rule
Yeah, because people were tired of massive civil wars that resulted in lots of Romans getting killed
>that a hundred years even after disasters like late Tiberius, Caligua and Nero
Very few people are seriously passionate about causes that happened way before they were born, unless a recent event ties those causes to immediate political events

But what you said disguised and ignored my main point: there were plenty of people in Caesar's day who still cared about the Republic. If they hadn't engaged in actions that resulted in a civil war, and if that civil war hadn't been so brutal and resulted in so many prominent citizens dead, and finally if the results of the civil war had been a Republican in charge rather than an autocrat, then the Republic itself could very realistically have survived.
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>>214509181
So instead they decided to end the Republic through their own idiotic, poorly planned actions. Good job senators.
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>>214509735
>if the results of the civil war had been a Republican in charge rather than an autocrat
Like Mr Cicero, AKA: EXECUTING MY ENEMIES IS NOT ILLEGAL WHEN I DO IT!! or Mr Traitor McStabbing AKA: Marcus Brutus

wow such virtuous republicans
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>>214509799
I already indicated that the reason that the defenders of the Republic lost was due to their lack of virtue and sense. If they had been smarter or less greedy then they'd have been more successful.
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>>214509721
To be fair it was like 300K vs 10K. There's no need for an escape route
But somehow there was
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>>214509721
It was so common for defeated celtic leaders to commit suicide after defeats that she probably expected to do that all along if they lost.
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>>214509735
>Very few people are seriously passionate about causes that happened way before they were born
have you ever met an israeli, palestinian, lebanese or someone from former yugoslavia?
or someone from the us south for that matter? every event gets tied to historic grievances.

But to your main point, what I mean is that the civil wars only were so bloody and could be one because the anti-republican group had reached a critical mass. you cannot have a republic if it has more enemies than active defenders. and the way the republic had been run at least in it's late stages did not encourage enough people to fight for it.
that does not mean of course that the civil wars could not have been won by the the other side and the republic restored.

>>214510251
the cimbri and/or teutones did that as well iirc. the women would basically encourage the men to fight and if the fight was lost kill the children and themselves to avoid slavery



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