I don't get it.
white men bad
Puritans who think Christmas and dancing are bad for no real biblical reason are exiled by the English Crown and get their just desserts.
>>214519470what do you think about the movie though?
>>214519605bad subject matter and even worse message
Natives good, puritans bad.
All of Roberts films are intentionally vague and left entirely to the interpretation of the viewer. God is left completely ambiguous.
the v v itch?
Calvinism is a death cult
My favourite Wes Anderson moviehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=3PbqIxvEgWE
SHALL YE BE BANISHED FROM THIS PLANTATIONS LIBERTIES
>>214519470more like the father pride killed his own family
>>214519457>doesn't like butterFILTERED OP
was butter really that rare and luxurious? you have goats. maybe goat butter isn't bad. collect it from black phillip.
>>214520976Not massively, but it probably was for a colonist.
films are not supposed to be gotten
>>214519457Puberty is literally satanic.
sandvvich
>>214520976Butter takes a lot of cream, which takes a lot of milk, which takes a lot of goats. Given they couldn't store the milk, they were likely incorporating it directly into meals or to make cheese, so there'd be no butter.
>>214519457feminism is satanic
>bro have some butter and clothes and I also might show you around the world to some cool placesnot even in the 1630s would someone give their soul up for that
>>214521941teens are retarded
>>214521941>I also might show you around the world to some cool placesMen killed each other, and were ready to die, for that.
>>214521981No they didn't they did it for land, resources and business. Don't be an idiot.
>>214519457The devil REALLY wanted Anya in his harem
Weird how the film tried to show the paradoxes and hypocrisies of Christian salvation and stuff when all of them are pretty easily explained. Like the young boy who has problems with lust. Having lustful thoughts isn't a sin in itself, you cannot control your mental images, it's if you act on those thoughts that makes it a sin or not.
>>214522095Fuckin nothing there.
>>214522160What about the predestination of salvation and damnation, which the father struggled to explain
>>214522734That's more of a theological question rather than purely basing it on the concepts we gain from the new and old testament, y'know, is the bible all that is needed to be saved etc. etc.
>>214520976Thats why Philip offered it
>>214523030Butter was literally a staple of the diet of any family, rich or poor, during that time.Anya must have been a hog for butter if she was willing to sell her soul to stuff it down her face.
the joke is that V + V = W
>>214519457They were all bonkers from eating fungus infected cereal
>>214523095Yeah butter was in practice a way of storing milk.But did they even have any milk producing animals?
>>214519470Actually it's white women bad
>>214523355Cows were transported from England to America from 1611 onwards for their meat, milk and plough pulling. The Spanish were doing it earlier.If Anya loved butter so much, why didn't she run off back to the colony and lie, as satanists do, that her family were killed by naughty injuns? She wasn't banished.
Live deliciously.
If you love BUTTER so much, why don't you marry BUTTER?
>>214523440>why didn't she run off back to the colonyToo farEasier to become Black Phillip's whore
>look up how people spoke in the 17th century>practically the same as normal englishI guess people just think they said thy/thou because of the King James Bible, which used thy/thou because it was a traditional translation.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnUJDdZxIQ0
>>214521913No it doesn't.
>>214519457she's a fucking vvitch anon, what is confusing about that?
Niggers
>>214519457It's supposed to be a very stark, grounded horror. The already horrific nature of mundane existence enhanced by fantastical horror. It's not my favorite of his movies by any stretch but I do appreciate that the ending felt earned unlike most of these sorts of movies that do a last act twist where the characters suddenly fuck up for no reason and evil wins.
I like the depiction of Satan. The devil is a temptator, not le scary jumpscare man with a booming evil voice. He is meant to appeal to you, not scare you.
>>214522095She looks a little fat (in a good way) there, cute.
>>214519457Me either. I liked The Lighthouse a lot but I just couldn't get into this one
>>214519457white women are demonic
(Unintelligible)
>>214524772>we need a cornish guy
>>214524772I couldn't understand a fucking word this bloke said
>>214519457over religious father leads his daughter right into the devils lap. Many such cases!
>>214525158it is the daughters free will to do so
>>214522040r*ddit incarnate
Dost thou not wish to live deliciously?
>>214525246Why don't I just cook you? You would be delicious braised.
>>214519457Getting EGGED happens to the best of us.
the real friends were the goats we had along the way
>>214519457The final scene where the girl levitates naked is pretty hot.
>>214519457Ergot poisoning will fuck you up.
remove thy shift
>>2145194571 Corinthians 5:5 >hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.but with le epin hipster tweest
>>214525171Free will doesn't exist according to the father's doctrine (Calvinism)
>>214519676In no way the movie talked about natives??
>>214521816Don't mock us from Heaven, please.
>>214526312Does free will exist in the bible? I don't remember
Why didn't they just kill the goat or at least put a cross in the barn?
>>214527502“Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.” – Romans 9:18No, the bible says god just lets good things happen to whoever he chooses and he hardens whoever's heart he wants to, so not only do you not have free will, but you aren't rewarded for doing good things either, you are just rewarded and punished on a whim.
gib normal Anya
>>214526359Satan was the natives. America is Hell.
>>214527502Not sure, but the Calvinist reasoning is >God knows all>Including what you're going to do>Therefore free will doesn't exist >Everything is predetermined including who is damned and who is saved>But we have to act as if we have free will anywayIt's a bit of an autistic spiral all pivoting on "God knows all"
>>214529229>>But we have to act as if we have free will anywayWhere does the bible say that?is pretty clear >>214527654 that god gets to decide how you just things.
>>214529274>Where does the bible say that?It doesn't That's the conclusion that Calvin came up with, using what he thought was "logic"
>>214520976Not in England.
>>214519457Fuck you
>>214519457Women are whores unironically is the point.Imagine selling your soul for fucking butter and dresses when you're in the fucking woods
>>214521941>a woman wouldn't sell her soul for luxuries Retard detected
>>214529368>That's the conclusion that Calvin came up withBased on what, what was the basis of the "logic" that he had to act as if he had free will anyway?
>>214524772>>214524808Begone esl
>>214529468I'm not sure exactly. The conclusion seemed rigged frankly so that no actual changes came out of his "no free will" conclusion
>>214525246
>>214519489Jeremiah 10:3-5 KJV
>>214529526The no free will isn't his conclusion, it is what the bible specifically literally says >>214527654 and demonstrates repeatedly that god is a racist jew who protects members of his own family and hardens the heart of people like pharoah who oppose them.
>>214530134>god is a racist jewI now believe in god
>>214519457>Christians badThat simple. They had the opportunity to make a film based on actual accounts of witchcraft and chose fedora slop instead.
>>214519470fpbp
>>214520708This. His own actions forced his daughter to make the unimaginable choice of becoming a witch or be sacrificed to the devil. She never had a chance.
>>214520708Maybe that was the point but I don't think the logic of the movie works that way intentionally or unintentionally. Like they would have no problems if not for the fact fucking witches were deliberately antagonizing them in a satanic guerilla war.
>>214531748No, his own actions forced his family to live in misery.>>214531905This it's more accurate. The father was responsible for their misery but the Black Phillip and the witches were too fucking up everything. Also these annoying twins.
>>214521941>>214520976The butter is metaphor or symbolismThomasin was being abused by her family. The decision was easy. Power, comfort, luxury, or a life of starvation, banishment, oppression, and servitude. Her parents were literally talking about selling her into slavery. And people keep saying "they don't get it".
She was also in ice age
