Why were Josh Brolin and the jew having nightmares about Gladys? Why was the junkie hallucinating Gladys? And what was the point of the junkie? Or the cop for that matter? You could've cut both of them out of the film completely and it would have made zero difference.How did the gay asian principal not know about Gladys?
>>214533603Bad writing.
>>214533603Because you're taking the movie literally like a retard. The movie is clearly about a school shooting. Gladys, the witch, is whatever ideology that pushed the boy to shoot up his school mates. Fascism, trannysm. Doesn't matter. The junkie and the cop doesn't hold a lot of meaning outside of telling us society is sick all around. The cop was an alcoholic cheating on his wife prone to police violence.
>>214533753>The movie is clearly about a school shooting. Gladys, the witch, is whatever ideology that pushed the boy to shoot up his school mates.A perfect excuse if you're filmamker without the talent or the balls to actually say something with your movie."Dude it's your own interpretation lmao"Guess that's why a Dodge Ram-driving boomer and a lib gen z teacher are having nightmares about "ideologies" which threathen them, and their personification is exactly the same.>The junkie and the cop doesn't hold a lot of meaning outside of telling us society is sick all aroundSo why have it in the film?Pointless scenes are the standard bearer of bad directing.
>>214534337You don't have to think it's good, and I'm not even saying it is, but that's what it is. Remember the gun in the dream? It's the weapon used to shoot up the kids.
>>214533603The film falls apart if you think about it. It's a vibe film. Like capeshit but for horror.
>>214533603To make the movie intriguingYou do know the very premise of a horror/thriller right? Imagine making a movie, where the characters do the safe thing the entire movie - nothing interesting would happen and the murderer/villian/monster would just go away
>>214534357No its not you dummy. The kids were in third grade. They dont shoot up anythingIt was just a modern reimagining of the Pied Piper
>>214534956 >>214533753I agree with this interpretation. Idc what the director says, sometimes we communicate things with art that is subconscious. Too many connections to dismiss. My interpretation is Gladys is an embodiment/representation of a"witch hunt" mentality or basically an inability to self reflect in times of crisis/grief or more accurately, the manifestation of the malevolence we can succumb to when we are trying to avoid accountability. This is why she appears to everyone following some regret. Who is to blame for a tragedy ?Is it a teacher who has substance issues because she missed the signs in her student ?The father feels regret that he couldn't save his son and that he was an absent parent. Is it parental absence that caused the tragedy? School bureaucracy represented by the principal. Is it their fault that the signs were missed because they have deemed it inappropriate for teachers to care about their students on a deeper level?Is it systemic corruption and institutional failure represented by Paul?Is it the fault of societal decay and our apathy and lack of care about drug addicts like James? Is it the fault of parents that actively engage in substance abuse in the home of the perpetrator of the tragedy ?Who should we blame?Gladys is just one witch of many to hunt and if you read the ending line I did, which I read as a melancholic one, the satisfaction you feel from a successful witch hunt is ultimately a hollow victory. It won't bring back those who have been lost or traumatized by the tragedy. Why I think this interpretation is valid is because if this is Creggers series of questions following Trevor Moore's death, It becomes a rather poignant metaphor for the helplessness we feel in a time of tragedy that has no rhyme or reason but just inexplicably occurs in our lives and we are left to try to make sense of something senseless.
>>214535528Idk man the witch had it comin
>>214535587Remember also that in the beginning of the film the narrator says "and they never came back" It's not a perfect film and it was partly hampered by test screening audiences and a reliance on some goofy tropes but I still think it's a very good film. If you stop to think of the consequences to the children's actions, I don't think you can say it wouldnt be without its consequencesThis film has now taken on even more thematic resonance in light of recent events and the fallout from those events
>>214533603For trailer visuals
>>214535528Pretty good interpretation and close to mine. I saw Gladys as the alien influence on the boy that led him to extremism and that society/parents/school fail to see and combat.
>>214535752>>214535941And title says a lot. The boy was "weaponized" by this alien influence/ideology.
>>214534337>the balls to actually say something with your movie.>"Dude it's your own interpretation lmao"good art is up to interpretation. if your movie has a "message" it's propaganda, not art.
...I still don't know why it was called Weapons
>>214536062This
>>214536102>>214536026I think it's as this anon said, things in our lives can make us into weapons and harm those around us, whether that's addiction which is a huge theme in the movie or our own childhood trauma (yes I know, trauma again) but often those that harm others were harned themselves which results in a cycle. It's also a multilayered title if you subscribe to the school shooting theory, which I do.
>>214536102they look like arrows when they run
Was anyon else slightly disappointed we didn't get a modern children of the corn type film? I thought from the poster and the trailer that we would be seeing homicidal kid drones. Still really liked the movie but missed opportunity I think especially since the movie essentially teases that kind of movie at the end
>>214536231>>214535528This thread got my noggin joggin, and while you gave me a good perspective of the film and how it was aptly named "weapons" I don't subscribe to the school shooter theory.I remember Josh Brolins character saying "they were moving like a missile locked on target". And you are right about every character hurting each other stemming from each other's own issues. But again, I don't believe in the school shooter concept. Maybe you can explain it again because I'm not entirely convinced of your theory but I am open.
>>214533603Maybe I missed a bit, but Brolin's character didn't dream about the witch, only the gun over the house. My take is that it's "a dream", his brain processing info during his sleep. There's no other meaning than what he understands.
>>214533603I'm really tired of these undercooked movies getting glaced by critics because of some very poorly executed and hamfisted allegory that is just enough to make everyone VaatiVidya it too death like it's some Dark Souls item description and everyone spending the next 6 months writing essays projecting their own bullshit on to it.It was a mediocre and underhelming movie.
>It's symbolism. It's all symbolism. It's a metaphor dude. If you don't get it you just don't understand the metaphor and symbolism bro. It's not meant to be taken literally. It's an allegory for (drug addiction, trauma, mental illness, toxic masculinity) bro.
>>214536596The movie does a lot of symbolic links between Alex's situation and situation that usually lead to a school shooting. The way he "is the only one left" is interesting. They are kids because the movie wouldn't work if they were teenagers, since it's a lot harder to suspend your disbelief if this all happened to teenagers, plus metaphorically teenagers are all kids to society anyway.
>>214536769It always is. That's what these artists do, getting angry about I says more about you than them.
>>214533603>Why were Josh Brolin and the jew having nightmares about Gladys?So they can do jump scares like this
>>214533603Gladys tells the boy she'd know if he tells anyone about her, so it's easy to intuit that her appearing around town and in dreams is some kind of surveilance spell
>>214533603Have there been any good films this year? I've been to see Weapons and a few others.
>>214533753Weapons is about multiple things. One of them is how society doesn't care enough about its children. How come it took a civilian to discover that all the children were in a basement in the local vicinity? Think about what a massive news story the simultaneous disappearance of 17 children from one class would be. It would be headline news all over the world. Police forces and search teams would flood the area and discover the kids within days if not hours. Except in the movie that doesn't happen,
>>214537094>Except in the movie that doesn't happen,yeah, 'cause it's a movie.why do midwits think fiction is an indictment of real life? movies aren't real.
>>214537094Except they did check out the lone kid's house, except the witch sent the kids out. I wosh they did something with that and have Brolin or the teacher 'hallucinate' seeing the kids that night (as in they think they're hallucinating, but the kids are actually there)
>>214536795>getting angry about I says more about you than them.Should a movie be praised on it's viewers interpretation of it or on it's own merit?Because right know I cant tell which is getting the praise and that's partly the problem when the author or director leaves just enough breadcrumbs for pseuds to get their knickers in a twist over what it all means and how it's supposed to be interpreted. And this has been a problem with contemporary art for almost a century now where it isnt the work itself that is of interest, but everyones interpretation of said piece of art. At some point when presented with an empty white canvas on a wall, I'm asking myself if we're being gaslit into imagining that there's something earthshakingly profound or deep on the canvas and we're doing all the artists work for him.I can sit outside and stare at a rock for 10 minutes, forcing myself to believe that the rock is very important and deeply sad and work myself into crying if I really try. And that's how I feel about this way of making art.And Weapons isnt even subtle, it's like that the entire movie exists to plant the idea in the viewers head that the movie is alot more meaningfull than it actually is.
>>214533603How much did the movie company pay the reviewers?
>>214533753Yeah, i thought it was pretty obvious when josh brolin runs to the kids house and a fucking assault rifle materializes with the kill count on the side 2:172 adults being andy parents 17 kids
>>214537192Must be weird for you to watch movies and think that everything is happening the way it is for no reason at all
Uhhhhhhh do you guys seriously lack this much media literacy?>disappearing children = school shooting>aggressive father blaming the wrong person = toxic chud masculinity>incompetent and violent police = fuck fascism>alcoholic slut teacher who doesn't act like she's sad the kids are missing despite being a major suspect = BELIEVE WOMEN MY BODY MY CHOICE>evil old lady witch = boomers leeching off the youth and destroying the country >druggie kid living in tent = opiate epidemic>gay principal forced to kill his husband = Fox News>floating AR-15 in a dream = take the vaccine>Alex feeding chicken soup to everyone = go vegan and eat the bugs It's all very clear.
>>214533603What did it mean?
>>214533603>Why were Josh Brolin and the jew having nightmares about GladysBecause it's a chatgpt stupid ass movie and makes no sense>Why was the junkie hallucinating Gladys? And what was the point of the junkie? Or the cop for that matter? Because it's a chatgpt stupid ass movie and makes no senseIt's a really stupid ass movie, Scooby Doo tier
>>214537624>bloated man = obesity epidemic
>>214536499Yeah. If it was children of the corn it might have at least been an okay movie. How did they mess it up this bad? Haha.
>>214533753Wrong, it was a witch and nothing more
Dude is legit angry he couldn't comprehend a simple as fuck movie.
>>214537644Literally nothing, the director even said he can't explain it himself. Just consider it an enigmatic image open to interpretation.
>>214537644It’s a political statement regarding assault rifles and school shootings. 2:17 was used to represent the votes needed (217) to pass the assault weapons ban in 2022
>>214537469Based. I hadn't noticed that.
>dude why wasn't everything in this horror movie 100% realistic and logicalThis board is literally just shitskinned subhumans now.
>dude should we make a tight well-written thriller about the bizarre, potentially supernatural disappearance of 17 children?>nope just make it stupid and zany, horror fans love stupid trash and CURAZY endings>what about weak plot points and inconsistencies of how this world works?>IT'S SYMBOLISM I AIN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT
>>214537644"And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams."Acts 2:17
>yes there's that little boy whos classmates disappeared, buying 20 cans of soup, that doesnt seem weird at all
NOW YOU FUCKED UPNOW YOU FUCKED UPNOW YOU HAVE FUCKED UPWHATWHAT
>>214537800How many years do you have ?I boughted a ticket to this movie but walked outI think only zoomer kids love this
it wasn't about anything lmao just some schizo shit that the director came up with in his dreams and many of you are extrapolating this school shooting message from it. yeah it fits in with the school shooting thing but if the author of the art is specifically stating that he didn't intend it to mean as such (even if he's lying because he's a coward) then why even dsicuss it
>>214537644It's just a reference to the room number in the Shining book. All these goobers responding to you think this movie is way deeper than it is.
>>214533603there is no symbolism or metaphor, gladys is simply a centuries old witch and the dreams are explained by her action's effects on the community, the teacher logically dreams about being caught by a freak in her house after she's being threatened and scared by brolin, brolin is the angriest dad in the community and therefore dreams about seeing a gun when he chases his kid in his dream and he can't catch him. theres nothing else to it. in the scene where gladys meets the school principal, the assistant or whatever she is, also seems very strange and zombified, and the principal is also very nervous for no reason as if gladys has a very authoritative presence and he already knows her even though they never met. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evv0TtBpI0Q
>>214533753>muh metaphorFuck off, it's just a bad fucking movie.
I liked this movie until it became a comedy>picrel is an ancient malevolent spirit
>>214538036He's definitely lying. He wanted it to be an IMPORTANT A24 elevated horror vehicle for TRAUMA that will endlessly unpacked by the media literate but wasn't capable of seeing it through for whatever reason. The movie desperately wants you to think it's more than it is until the very end where it gives up on any bullshit pretense.
>>214538174Filtered.
>>214533753>Because you're taking the movie literally like a retard. the fact that there exist a subtextual interpretation (like your thinly supported one) does not entail that the text is meaningless or that trying to make sense of it is some kind of misunderstanding, to the contrary, the effectiveness of the subtext hinges on intellgibility and internal consistency of the text
>>214537960Nobody gives a fuck what other people buy at the grocery store, not even the cashier.
Ia this movie scary? I dont like movies that are too scary...
>>214538202they made her look like a flower, when the junkie hallucinates her she's also half into the ground like a plant, its a bad stupid. all the parasite stuff is dumb too, the theory that shes a parasite is lame and its a lame concept anyway. muh cordyceps and muh parasites is like the current new epic thing in hollywood for some reason.
>>214538272Is*
Wong beating the shit out of Thanos was funny
>>214538282bit stupid* anyway, its kind of confirmed shes from atleast the salem witch trials and probably invaded the family rather than being bloodrelated.
>>214538272I thought it was scary, but I'm not a horror movie guy. I've heard a lot of horror movie fans say it's not scary.
>>214538272it has 3 or 4 lame jumpscares in the first half, the second half the mystery is revealed and it doesnt really have anything scary anymore
>>214538400the second half has gore, though. I had to look away at one point.
>>214538461how does gore (fake even) scare you when you post here? newfag?
>>214538503I’ve been here since 2016 and I hate gore too. What are you going to do to me?
The alcohol addiction part was a reference to Trevor Moore's death him felling off the roof of this home while drunk 2:17 2 alex and Justine and the missing17 kids and the 217 to 213 vote for the assault weapons ban that didn't pass
>>214533753It's not about school shooting specifically, it's just about the current socio-political climate and how people are weaponized, either by ideology, politics, etc. It can apply to school shootings, Charlie Kirk, Me Too, a bunch of stuff. The film is about a witch hunt. It's a loose metaphor that has applicability on many levels.
>>214538503just because I experienced the gross-out shock era of the internet doesn't mean I liked it
>>214538626>The film is about a witch hunt.it's objectively not
>>214538272No
>>214538673>Main villain is a witch>Main plot is an investigation that leads to finding her>The teacher gets labeled a witch (false accusation in trying to pin the blame for perceived wrongdoing)
>>214533753The movie is about a witch You people are nuts
>>214538282>some reason
>>214538570kek
>>214538779>Main villain is a witchnobody except for maybe alex knows that. they're not "hunting" anyone. they're trying to find missing children. a witch hunt is when a bunch of people (not two who are working independently and are actually at odds for most of the movie) pursue some specific person or group of people. the villain is a witch but the movie neither contains a real or figurative witch hunt.
>>214538282>its a bad stupid
>>214538886well i'm going to assume its because of The Last of Us, but i've never played or watched that so i can't speak for it, maybe its more popular than i thought. i've also seen many things about various insect/fish parasites apparently going viral on social media.
>>214538985>>214538306
>>214538970Your post neither contains real or figurative media literacy
>>214539230how's this for real media literacy? *punches you right on the nose*
>>214538985
>>214533603don't forget:>Josh Brolin shakes off the mind-control at the end when Gladys is killed>the boy's parents and the kids remain mind-broken zombies for some reason
>>214540067That was obviously related to how long they were zombies, you unironic retard.
>>214540077>hurr durr unironic retardnice one m8, your mum teach you that one? lololol
>>214533603>watch supernatural movie>ask questions about mechanicsi shiggydiggy
>>214540276When a movie presents itself as a mystery the audience is going to ask questions.
Everyone ITT is fucking retarded.There is no metaphor or subtext. Gladys just has some form of influence on the town when she moves in. James didn't hallucinate about her until after he broke into the house. The rest of the people who hallucinated about her were directly related to the kids in some way. She's a malign, vile force, and even her just being in the general area fucks with things. Its insane that people don't get this or think its about school shootings when she's clearly just meant to be a german fairy tale hag.
>>214540213Embarrassing display
>>214540333Whole thread reminds me of the curtains were blue meme.
