>Talking to Howard Stern earlier today, Gunn said, "It’s a story about Lex Luthor and Superman having to work together to a certain degree against a much, much bigger threat. It’s more complicated than that but that’s a big part of it.">"It’s as much a Lex movie as it is a Superman movie. I loved working with Nicholas Hoult. I relate to the character of Lex, sadly," he continued. "I really wanted to create something extraordinary with the two of them. I just love the script so much.”https://comicbookmovie.com/superman/james-gunn-reveals-man-of-tomorrow-story-details-will-pit-superman-and-lex-luthor-against-bigger-threat-a223773
>Sources say that Supergirl (Milly Alcock), Lobo (Jason Momoa), and Peacemaker (John Cena) will have roles in the film as well. On Instagram, Isabela Merced hinted at her return as Kendra Saunders/Hawkgirl, while Aaron Pierre teased an appearance as Green Lantern John Stewart. These characters will all team up to face a shared threat, rumored to be Brainiac.https://www.nexuspointnews.com/post/exclusive-man-of-tomorrow-eyeing-to-begin-production-next-summer
>>214537916They are teaming up against Brainiac. Most likely Lex joins Brainiac wanting to destroy Superman and finds out he’s being used and Brainiac wants to shrink Metropolis for his collection and then blow up the planet. Similar to Brainiac Attack
Panic at the Sky based?
Cast him
>>214537916Gunn is a retard. It's to early. It's unemotional and unearned
>>214538286Unironically Jeffrey Combs.
>>214538286Pedro Pascal
>>214537926Lmao. Brainiac is Justice League villain. Late Justice League tier villain. Gunns second movie is already trying to be Avenger's 2 or even 3. It's unearned. Literally same mistake as Snyder
>>214537916based, can't wait>>214538301yeah not like your hero Hack Snyder, who decided that the first DCEU film involving Batman should be Batman v Superman (feat. Wonder Woman)
>>214538227Nah it's gonna go the other way. Superman will seek Luthor's help against Braniac, but Luthor will end up betraying him.
>>214538301Much better than sneeder who introduced Doomsday and Death of Superman before there was even a real Justice League
>>214538337What you talking about? The Gang was introduced in Superman. Supergirl is going to continue to build it up and will likely end with a tease to Brainiac. I’m betting it will be a shot of her city Kandor in a bottle with Brainiac’s reflection.
>>214537926Are they really not bringing back /ourGuy/?
>>214538472For sure. I’m betting it’s going to be more villains than just Brainiac. He will have have some goons squad helping him
So his plan was to make Luthor an irredeemable cold-blooded murderer and then...make a buddy movie with Superman as the sequel? You know know there's gonna tonal whiplash and a complete retconning/ignoring of how evil Luthor was in the first movie so they can reach their requisite jokes-per-minute number.
>>214538591What you talking about! Magneto joins C Men in X2 to go after Stryker. Same Mageneto who was a cold blooded killer and was going to murder rogue
>>214538655X2 is a serious movie as far as capeshit goes, there aren't comedic elements. Re-read my post cause you might be too stupid to grasp what I was saying with just 1 read through.
>>214538672Do you have the script? You have no fucking idea how it will be played out. I really doubt it’s going to be “well, I guess we’re buddies now” shit. Superman and Luthor have joined up before against a. bigger threat but they weren’t pals
>>214538767It's a Gunn movie, there are 1000% going to be comedic moments between Superman and Luthor that undercut the latters established character from the first movie.
>>214538337You faggots have been begging for a solo Superman movie with Brainiac for like 20 years.
It’s not going to be brainiac from what I’ve heard. Though it doesn’t matter because you can’t please nerds. They say brainiac is too big of a villain but since he won’t be the big villain in part 2 they will still bitch and moan that it should’ve been brainiac once it’s announced
>>214538966> from what I’ve heard. Where, your ass? There was a leaked storyboard on the behind the scenes in Gunn’s office with Superman, Supergirl and Krypton flying with Brainiac’s head in the corner. With Supergirl involved and Superman and Lex teaming up against a “bigger threat” it most certainly is Brainiac.
>>214538472The most memorable thing in guy Gardner's comics for me is when he went to get Sinestro's yellow ring.
>nooo you can't do Brainiac you have to do a bunch of random filler villains first and ONLY save Braniac for movie 25 when the capshit industry has collapsed to the point of making CGIfests unprofitable
>>214538369Lmao. A literal NPC who thinks in binary.
>>214539149This. Shit has changed Post Covid. Nobody wants drawn out build ups. Days of B and C list characters like Ant Man making money are over. It has to be big event team up or people will just wait for it to be dumped onto streaming
>>214538872Proofs?
>>214539242Negus is comparing Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, Green Lantern,Flash etc to ant man xD
>>214539252Go look at MOS 2 and what people wanted
>>214538872Keyword: solo
>>214538337Brainiac is primarily a Superman villain first
>>214539268You’re the one comparing it to The Avengers. There was no A list character in that movie outside maybe The Hulk. They didn’t get another A list character until Spider Man was in Civil War
>>214539268Wonder Woman is getting rebooted and will likely lead into a Trinity movie. The Flash is dated goods after the Ezra disaster
Both Gunn and Snyder suck
>>214537916Hoult was the only good part of Superman so I’m somewhat interested
>>214538337Good. Speedrunning DCEU mistakes and getting less money than Josstice league again.
>>214538872It’s not a direct sequel for Superman and it’s not a solo Superman movie.
>>214539725Luthor, Brainiac and Supergirl are all Superman characters. Gunn can say it’s not a direct sequel but it’s still a Superman movie. Just because many of Superman’s villains end up as JL villains doesn’t mean they are not Superman villains with their most iconic arcs being Superman stories
Sorry chuds but Brainiac is a Superman villain. Deal with it.
>>214538872Solo, man of tomorrow is dawn of justice 2.0
The main villain in part 2 should be Lobo or Mongul
>>214540444How? All of these characters have already been introduced in movies or shows aside from Brainiac. BvS introduced Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, Lex and Doomsday all in the same movie. Not even remotely similar.
>>214540504Lobo is going to be in Supergirl.
Hoult was the best part of Superman, this is a great idea just in terms of box office.
>>214540686Is he going to fuck her in the super girl movie?
>>214539149if they go to brainiac, they already dropped metallo, bizzaro, and any low tier superman villainbrainiac is darkseid tier, another proof gunn is speedrunning his ""universe""
Is that the official name?
>>214540730just like in that game of thrones scene.
>Lex and Superman working togetherI like those types of plots
>>214537926>>214537916It would be so incredibly funny that a solo Lobo movie with Jason Momoa would be the highest grossing movie of the Gunnverse.
it's like Goku and Vegeta teaming up to fight Frieza, haha
>>214540733Yes.Once you go big, you can't go back to the streets again. This is why the MCU is dying. They showcased aliens, lame but still Greek gods, and (lame - isg)codmic-level threats, and now the new Captain and the new Avengers are fighting some terrorists back on Earth.
>>214540733Shut the fuck up. People been wanting Brainiac forever and it’s ridiculous he’s never been in a Superman movie yet. It would be like Two Face never being in a Batman movie yet. Donner was planning on Brainiac and Supergirl for Superman 3. Brainiac was going to be the main villain for MOS but they changed it to stupid Zod. There was plans he was going to be in MOS 2
>>214540853Donner is smarter than Gunn. Brainiac is large threat.
>>214540820Not it at all. You retards can just pretend Covid and direct streaming haven’t complete changed the landscape. People aren’t going to watch just Metallo filler movie. It has to be big event movies or people will just wait for it to hit streaming. That’s the reality now
>>214540820Gunn started big in his first movie, he's not interested in doing origin stories and build up movies
>>214540799I don't get any of these references because I don't watch K-drama.
>>214540853thank god Snyder never got to do him lmao
>>214540820the difference is, this is the third-fourth DCU movie, after brainiac you cant do solo movies again, the powerlevel is already fucked.
>>214540989Yeah, now we get to hear them respond to his serious quotes with funny quips in this buddy cop comedy!
>>214541022DC's power levels are always fucked, that's the fun part about them compared to Marvel Flash could out beat the Rogues any given day, but their moral dilemma is what keeps them interesting even after all the fights against Reverse Flash. I do agree that adapting some stuff to movies and shows are complicated, but it is one of the benefits of DC that always had against Marvel.
>>214541022that's what you'd assume after Guardians 2, but Guardians 3 was actually better.
>>214538472Easiest guy to kill off for shock.
>>214541022There is not going to be solo movies. Gunn is only giving each character one movie to establish themselves. Supergirl will likely go into leading the Legion of Superheroes after Man of Tomorrow and the Wonder Woman movie will lead into a Trinity movie. Every character is being teamed up now. Spider Man is going to have The Punisher and The Hulk in his next movie
>>214538403>Much betterIn his first Superman movie, Gunn>Makes casual Kryptonian cloning a thing and introduces a Superclone only to immediately kill him off>Reveals that Clark's Kryptonian parents were evil only for this to immediately be resolved with a Pa Kent pep talk a few minutes later>Has both a world-threatening sci-fi bullshit event and a messy geopolitical conflict for Supes and co to deal with when either of them would've been more than enough as the focus of the story; at least Sneeder picked just one and stuck with it in his first Superman movie>Introduces like six other super powered beings with zero backstory, some of whom may never appear in a movie againIt's a cluttered, confused mess just as the trailers implied. I'm not saying Sneeder is any better, but things are still pretty bad for Supes in cinema.
>>214538286Ralph Fiennes or Bill Skargard but Gunn is going to pick Bautista>>214538326Pascal has to be Joker, with the mostacho and beard covered with makeup like Cesar Romero
>>214539224Only a mental midget would use a term like npc.
>>214540733>brainiac is darkseid tierHe's not even close to that big of a threat. Superman regularly takes him on by himself.
>>214540923And the movie under performed>>214540911Lmao, before streaming there were tv channels and ability to buy or rent movie online
>>214541118Jesus wept.
>>214541213Stop thinking in binary, brainlet
>>214541228you're a fag and suck cocks
>>214540798What's funny about it?
>>214541311
>>214541285Sure thing "npc"
>>214541151Gunn is using a more easy way to not explain the characters from just the perspective of the viewer, as we go along with their whole story. Because his focus is the dynamics of those characters in an already established world.Sneeder's issues comes down to the fact that building out of Man of Steel doesn't feel like there was plans to continue it. Watch MoS again, and besides just references to WayneTech and LuthorCorp, there's no indication what you see is a world of superheroes. It's just a generic world in which they would mold for feature films.It's a setup for the characters and world, not just the characters.
>>214541285>using a term like brainletAnymore terms you learned from the internet lmao
>>214541228> before streaming there were tv channels and ability to buy or rent movie onlineAre you retarded? It use to take an entire year for shit to hit video. They shortened it to six months. And you had to buy it since video stores were gone. Now shit is on streaming within 35-45 days and you can wait a little longer and it’ll be on Disney+ and HBO Max. The Batman was on HBO Max within 45 days and so was Minecraft
>>214541118>Spider Man is going to have The Punisher and The Hulk in his next movieSpider-Man is fighting against Punisher, as that has been a classic matchup in the comics for like 30 years. And Professor Hulk is most likely the new father figure replacement for Tony Stark. In other words it's not a team movie.
>>214541151>casual Kryptonian cloningIt wasn't casual. Stop talking like a fucking retard.I only half read some of the other stuff you wrote as it seems like you didn't understand the movie. No need to debate any further.
>>214541362>>214541418Butthurt
>>214541436I don't think that's true. AFAIK it used to be a month or max two before DVD release. I don't remember exact details as I just pirate
>>214541410Why is WB so unlucky? Zazlav sucks. Gunn sucks. Snyder sucks.They could have just made three origin movies with $100 million budgets before the first Justice League movie. The first three would earn around half a billion each. Justice League would make a billion. Then they could make three sequels plus two origins, and then a bigger Justice League. Repeat until Anti-Monitor and Crisis on Infinite Earths.
This makes me so happy to know the best Lex is coming back.
>>214541436I don't know why you went apeshit on >>214541228 but he's more or less right. Movies landed on pay-per-view channels 1-2 months after their theatrical release and then ~3 months later they were out on video to buy or rent.
>>214541633>They could have just made three origin moviesSTFU
>>214541673No
>>214541523It sure as hell was not a month or two back in the 2000s dude.
>>214541657They were not dumped on HBO Max or Disney+ within 35-45 day. This is not even debatable. Look at theater attendance pre and Post covid. Attendance was already on a decline and Covid accelerated it by 10 years. Everything is going steaming and is why movie theater chains are filing for bankruptcy. People that still go to the movies are a lot more picky on what they will spend 16-20 dollars to see in theaters over waiting for steaming
>>214537916Isn't the entirety of WB currently getting sold to the highest bidder? None of this even matters. It's all going to dissolve.
>>214541763I checked, and the LOTR DVDs used to come out about nine to twelve months after release. That having said, until the MCU, movies were better than the current slop.
>>214538301>>214538301Did you watch Superman? I trust Gunn to make magic after that movie. Also, not all the characters are treated equally, it’s a battle between Lex and Superman, and everyone else is just supporting roles. This is looking like another look into the Lex vs Superman dynamic further, with Brainiac just being the excuse to have them interact. And with THIS Lex? I’m ok with it.
>>214541846Current movies are just bad. It's dark ages of movies.
>>214541523>>214541657This is from 2009:https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/reel-time-the-incredible-shrinking-window-for-movie-releases/A decade ago, movie fans who wanted to forgo paying for pricey tickets and popcorn waited an average of five months before they could watch a film in their own living rooms. Today, the window between theatrical releases and distribution via DVD and other channels like cable television and the web has shrunk to four months or less — and in some cases has even disappeared, with films being made available through video-on-demand services the same day they debut.
>>214541633Dude, we're all getting older with each day. And everything you just laid out would take 10-15 years to get to the grand finale and pay off. Consumers are DONE waiting.
>>214541867Ironic. Fans want the best for DC and WB, while shills are paid to wish fot the worst.
>>214541922Weird mentality. Why assume everyone thinks the endgame is the best part?Imagine Baldurs Gate 3 or Expedition 33 but entire game is the third act? Or Avatar but only the final battle
>>214541916WB going to release all their movies on streaming and in theaters. This is what caused Nolan to sperg out and leave the WB. He films all his shit on IMAX to get people to see it in theaters
>>214542006Why is Nolan so arrogant? Tenet was a terrible movie, with no interesting wide shots and effects that looked no better than an average German Cobra 11 episode. Meanwhile, Oppenheimer was nothing but close-ups and dialogue.
>>214541633>When Mortal Kombat II was delayed just a month before it was set to be released, many fans began to speculate that there could be a serious problem with the movie.> However, the latest report puts those fears to rest, and claims that the reason for the shift is because, thanks to hits like Superman, Warner Bros. feel they have made enough money this year and would rather have Mortal Kombat II boost their potential 2026 roster instead.> So far, 2025 has seen the studio release A Minecraft Movie, Final Destination: Bloodlines, Sinners, Weapons, and last weekend’s The Conjuring: Last Rites. In fact, Warner Bros. is on a streak of having seven consecutive movies that have all opened over $40 million domestically since April’s A Minecraft Movie release.https://movieweb.com/superman-success-pushed-mortal-kombat-2-2026/
>>214541846>They were not dumped on HBO Max or Disney+ within 35-45 day. This is not even debatable.Are you daft? We're talking about BEFORE STREAMING. That means before HBO Max and Disney+ even existed and you're mentioning covid?
>>214541985Not what I'm saying AT ALL retard. I'm saying rather than have 7 or 8 movies, just have 3 movies to cover the entirety of the story beginning to end. It's about narrative focus and narrative closure.
>>214542132>taking time to tell a story is baaaaad.Why? Why rush? Plenty of people like longer narratives.
>>214542175What you're describing is just a hustle. Movie after movie after movie after movie. Why are they all flopping now? Hmmmmm.
>>214542106Low-key think Zazlav is lying again. Sure WB is doing okay. Better than five years ago. But still worse than ten years.
>>214537916Lex never had a good battle suit design. I think it was originally drawn by Perez. I like his work but he makes stuff too busy to really be a great design
>>214542283They aren't floping per se. They just cost 300 million due to bad behind the scenes policies.
>>214542303Was thrown out of court. Try again
>>214538337Brainiac has always been a Superman villain.It has to be one dude on /tv/ and /co/ that imagines he’s a JL villainComplain that Suicide squad fought Starro instead of JLA if anything
Not one solo capeshit movie has made a billion post Covid. It’s all been team ups and legacy characters thrown into the movies
>>214542395Not because they are solo, but because they are bad and people have less money due to Republican caused financial crisis
Spiderman movies. They had slow pace and consistent scope and tone. This should be the template. Not rushing like Snyder and Gunn
>>214542522You’re an idiot. Nobody wants to see another Spider Man, Batman or Superman origin again. How many times do retards like you need to see the same shit regurgitated
>>214542595>missing the point so much
>>214542646Nobody wants a slow build up for these characters. Donner and Raimi movies did it because it was the first big screen adaptions of the characters. Nobody wants to see that now. They want to see shit they haven’t seen endless times before. There was no excitement for another Superman move let alone another reboot. Not making it an origin movie and just moving on with the new story is what saved the movie. I know I would definitely not have bothered watching it if it was another fucking origin and slow build up bullshit
>>214537926How old will Jason Momoa be when this starts filming?
>>214537926>>214537916From what I'm gathering with this is that Gunn knows that the Apple merger (not Skydance) will effectively cancel his DCU and have the whole studio he was put in charge of on the chopping block or due for a major reshuffling. He's already stopped calling this franchise of movies and shows the "DCU" and it's now "The Superman Saga", which is a fancy way of saying that Superman wasn't succesful enough to justify a full-scale cinematic universe and they're giving him one more movie to wrap up what he's made so far before WB/DC are sold off to Apple. That's been the most likely merger, the Skydance report was just to spike interest but Apple will bid soon. Reeves will be the only left standing since his movie and his spin-off show were hugely succesful on all counts and the latter just won Emmys, for fuck's sake.
>>214543326Thats another thing, all these stars attached are getting old as fuck. They couldnt keep making movie with the same core Avengers team because they're all getting fucking old!
Usually this happens in a crappy 3rd movie no?
For those who don't know, WB is telling Gunn to streamline the DCU/Superman Saga/whatever-the-fuck into being team-up events in each installment, sans stuff like Clayface, because that's what works with the MonsterVerse, their only successful shared universe. This won't save DC but it's a sound practice, in theory anyway, and it might buy Gunn some time. Not much but a little bit.
>>214538787Gunn is the only one that does muh quipshit well and isn't tonally deaf like most of the other slop. Groot's death, Yondu's death, and Rocket's near death were serious and basically Shakespeare for capeshit
>>214543451I would be fine with Reeves and Gunn each having their own separate franchises, I liked both Superman and The Batman
>>214543451>Going to give it a sequel as fast as Iron Man because Superman flopped and call it the Superman SagaThis is the most retarded cope I’ve ever seen
>>214538591Nicholas Hoult got paid more than Corenswet and Brosnahan and was featured in all the marketing material alongside both of them.He was always going to come back.
>>214542303Wb has had their best year in longer than anyone can remember. It's kind of weird actually.Superman underperformed but shit like Minecraft dominated.
>>214544306> Superman underperformedFuck off already jeet
>>214544346It underperformed. It earned less than Ironman 1 or MoS.And believe me, I hate Snyder and MCU
>>214538337Almost all Justice League villains have been beat by Superman 1v1 multiple times. Often Justice League villains even start as Superman villains
>>214544306Last year was better. Barbie earned more than Minecraft. Minecraft is supposed to be the best selling game of all time, but the movie earned less than a billion
>>214543740Where's the contradiction? Read my post again. The movie was mildly successful at best so they'll give it a sequel but the rest of the DCU is dead. Gunn will contend with a small-scale "saga" and if he gets fired after a merger, he'll contend with that. Reeves will be the only left after the fact because his stuff has been undeniably successful on all counts and he has more prestige cred which is music to the ears of any executive, specially the ones over at Apple.
>>214544380Why is DC such a mess?
>>214544367It has best domestic performance for any Superman movie ever and domestic is where studios make the most money. It did not under perform and is why it’s getting a follow up so fast instead waiting to see how Supergirl does
>>214544402>Last year was better.No it wasn't>Barbie earned more than Minecraft. That was 2 years ago and it was wb's only hit that year. This year they've had Minecraft, Sinners, The Conjuring, Weapons and F1 (as well as Superman).All of those films have been surprisingly profitable in a year where films aren't doing particularly well.
>>214544406That is not how it works you idiot. If this movie under performed they would not be fast tracking a sequel. They would wait to see how Supergirl does before even considering any type of follow up. A sequel coming out this fast means it did very well and they want to strike while the iron is hot
>>214544500Lmao, Zazlav also praised Flash and was fast tracking Snyderverse until the last moment
>>214544638Did The Flash get a sequel within two years? Keep reaching you butthurt Snyder jeet. And The Flash only bombed because people boycotting Ezra. Who picked him again to play The Flash?
>>214541410because snyder original plan was a standalone superman trilogy sequel was metallo+lex (eisenberg) and third movie was brainiac+supergirl
>>214537926We live in generic slop times.
This fucking sounds like aquaman 2 nigga
>>214544500I've told you before, WB has to pretend they have a lot of hot properties cooking, as they try to attract buyers for their shit-show.And apparently Paramount is pretty damn stupid.If they don't get a massive discount like the last 2 buyers, I will lose all respect for them.
>>214546247I’ve told you before, you’re brown and retarded
>>214537916People only saw Gunn Superman out of curiosity and half the people that saw it hated it. There is Z.E.R.O chance a sequel makes money. This universe is DOA.
>>214543451Apple is this best studio in Hollywood right now because they are too new to have bully fully infiltrated by troon allies. So if the Skydance deal falls through I hope it's Apple that gets them. Definitely not Netflix though like rumors have been suggesting. Netflix is literal cancer.
>>214547106> half the people that saw it hated it. That why it dropped only 54% it’s second weekend and had a strong hold against F4? I think you got it confused with MOS which dropped 67% it’s second weekend
>>214547201Pulling random numbers out of your gay butthole doesn't change anything. Half the people that saw Gunn Superman hated it and the other half have been shilling this turd ever since.
>>214538337Brainiac is a superman villian dude. He's the one that stole Kandor from Krypton before it was destroyed.
>>214547265>Numbers make me mad Fucking brown faggot
>>214547337These faggots don’t know shit about Superman. Oh wow, got a Supergirl movie coming out. Her home city is Kandor. Wonder what that means?
>>214547378SEETHE harder. Maybe it will make this universe less D.O.A.
>>214538472James Gun loves Nathan Filian. I think he 100% intended for him to be the lead character whenever they got around to doing a GL Corps movie, or other cosmic DC bullshit. But lets be honest, Guy is the least popular and well known of all the Earth GLs
>>214538591There was no plan, anon.Gunn is just throwing shit and the wall and seeing what sticks.Also Gunn can’t make his Batman movie because Matt Reeves is holding the character hostage. So in the meantime he is making a Superman sequel to strike while the iron is hot (and while Normalfags don’t realize how shit the movies are).
>>214547662Reeves batman sequal would of came out already if gunning didn't hold it back.
>>214547733*gunn
The Gunnjeet is triggered as hell. KEK.
>>214547733>It was Gunn who sabotaged The Batman 2Reeves literally spent years not doing anything instead of writing The Batman 2. He could have made the movie three years ago but chose not to. Granted, rumors said he was dealing with Family tragedy. The only reason The Batman 2 is happening is because Reeves got off his ass and finally shat out a script.
>>214547662> There was no plan, anon.That why a script is already done and filming will start early next year? Or why a Supergirl movie was made before Superman even came out? A character who ties into Brainiac? Idiot
>>214547662>There was no plan.That is definitely not the case here. There IS/WAS a plan. It's just that the plan is shit and now he's scrambling to salvage it but it's too late. This universe is dead on arrival because everyone has now seen what it's about. It's about Netflix tier slop filled with goofy cringe and gay faggottry.
>>214537916Don't you get tired for all this shitslop type of movies where a bunch of characters that have nothing to do with the main one get into the story to make it more confusing and stupid?
>>214548043> scrambling to salvage What is your evidence of this jeet? Having Luthor as a co lead is anything but “salvaging it” Nor would WB go along with that. “Salvaging” it would belike they did after MOS when the WB demanded Batman be in the next one.
