>Here's your impenetrable fortress built by the first men thousands of years ago broWere they taking the piss at this point?
A couple of catapults would have that down in no time
Looks nothing like how it is described in the books
wait until they invent fire
>>214540660Good luck pushing them into range without them getting stuck. And good luck marching men in an orderly fashion up to the walls while theyre having arrows and rocks launched at them.
This show wasted so much potential on truly awesome books. It is a testament to just how good the books are that this mockery made the money and achieved the fame it did.
>>214541332>your catapult and engineering skill can't defeat me, I'll throw rocks! Bro that moat is like 15 feet long. You would need to do like 3 days of logging while keeping the guys inside then you can just launch shit at them. In the book it is much wider and deeper and the walls are higher so it makes more sense.
>>214540496Yes. They don't have the funds to build great big sets anymore. At least just cgi the fucking thing ala king's landing
Was the castle itself ever described as impervious or just the neck as a whole because it's a shitty poison swampland with frogpeople hiding in the trees with poison blowdarts every 5 feet?
>>214541430It was considered impassable from the South. Once Ned starts to worry about a potential civil war, he orders an extra 200 archers to be sent there in order to hold off any potential Southern invasion of the North
>>214540496It was all part of their Subversive™ "Le Nothing Was Actually As Kewl As They Said XDD" bullshit, which is just an excuse for lazy writing and low costsIt's why we never got ice spiders and shit like that. It was also exactly how they were pitching the Age of Heroes arc when they were still talking about it, saying how they were gonna show how "nothing was actually all that special apart from the stories." Typical "Millennial Grey" bullshit and minimalism.
>>214541485>I was told there would be elephants>It wasn't in the budget, your grace
>>214540496:^)>https://youtu.be/UVg5Mnj02zA
>the home of sam's irrelevant minor family is a pre revolutionary france tier megapalace and the home of arguably the most powerful family in westeros with the potential to rival the king himself looks like a random 12th century fortified english houseThis is what happens when you replace passionate autists with nepo babies. They just slowly removed everyone with talent throughout the course of the show, writers, set designers, costume designers, consultants, etc. Early on they had extensive dialogue about logistics and peasant loyalty, keeping people fed, multi month sieges, they implied pike based warfare, the costumes and sets were colourful and realistic and covered in heraldry, castles were layered and visually interesting, then literally every aspect of the show went to shit. It was like a television equivalent of the fall of rome, after season 4 everyone forgot how to do even the most basic shit.
>>214541714You know what's even worse is they literally just copypasted a real building? It's the Franciscan monastery at Assisi
>>214541714iirc season 5 killed off Roose Bolton, the last compelling villain on the show. Which of course was also retarded for plot reasons. Maybe they didn't want to pay the actor anymore. Season 5 also killed off Stannis.No more good actors after that. Sure we still had Varys and Baelish but their characters were ruined by that point because their book plots were cut from the show so they had nothing to do.
>>214541332>Good luck pushing them into rangeBuild them in place. It's not an RTS game where you have to build units at base, you have an entire army worth of manpower
>>214541714Bro nobody gave a fuck since in the show you only had time for one glancing establishing shot and that's that. All you had to convey is "old european place that someone important is at".
>>214541714I never watched past season 1 but what bothers me most about the top right image is the absolute lack of agricultureSame shit as in LOTR, unironically what do they fucking eat? You can't just put nothing but wild meadow around your medieval supercity
>>214541993its especially bad with Highgarden since the Reach is supposed to be an agricultural superpower that feeds half of westeros, thats like their whole thing.
>>214541964I mean considering how much they beat you over head in the show about how wealthy the Tyrells are and constantly having the Tyrells talk about how great highgarden, I was hoping for something a little more impressive than whatever the fuck that piece of shit in S7 was.
>>214542146They also were able to raise huge armies and their manpower was pivotal in the Wot5K to the point of securing the Lannister victory and Joffrey's claim.But they sort of forgot they were a significant martial power in S7.
>>214541714the series was long lost by the time these scenes happened
>>214542146they probably legit forgot that they hyped up the Tyrells and Highgarden as important
>>214540496it's pretty silly because the real moat cailin is just three ruined towers and a bunch of rubble. easy to CGI, easy to create sets for.
>>214542380>real
>>214541714They could had made a minature and a matte painting for it. The budget was there.
>>214540496>swamp fortJust cut off the roads leading to the swamp and those morons will starve.
>>214541952>Build them in placeI like your idea but what if arrows or a floor gang of 15 running out, killing your assembly crew, and running back?
>>214542497>anon learns basic siege tacticsThis is the strategy with literally every fort, encircle them and try to starve them out, thats why they have giant stockpiles of food inside.
>>214542497a swamp has enough frogs, birbs, fish, and reptiles... all reproducing at top speed because the near infinite number of insects... to sustain people indefinitelydo you think that swamp having at least three zodiac signs is a joke
>>214542505?????????????????????????????????????Why are your catapults in arrow range? How did those 15 guys get past a literal entire army between them and the catapults?
>>214542541>literal armygood luck feeding more than 1000 men, 90% of which will do jack shit 100% of the time
>>214542497But they know how to cut of supplies coming up the road you did
>>214542589>anon realizes that sieges don't have 100% manpower usageNo fucking way. Are you a middle manager or something?
>>214541430As I recall from the books it's basically three crumbling towers and some palisades filling in the gaps of broken walls. It's basically the swamp that's the true enemy. It's waist deep water all around the towers filled with gators.
>>214542625I won't answer the question but we both know that the people inside the castle are more motivatedoh no I used the word motivated :>
>>214542696Months of boredom punctuated by moments of extreme terror
>>214540496Looks like a shithole made out of planks
>>214540496>mound cailee>piss>penetrationok i'm listening
>>214542726not if they have a priest that isn't so annoying they spit-roast him at the third day and then eat him at the sixth
I have yet to see a good depiction of DragonstoneAnyways, this is my favorite Harrenhal
>>214540496Is this Megaton?
>>214542795How are DEI pajeets supposed to recreate that with CGI?
>>214542811>Megaton>Where you wait until New Vegas is released.
>>214542537>near infinite number of insectsif they unlocked chickens, it's over for the besiegers
>>214542774>a priestvoodoo priest(ess)?
This is my favorite Casterly RockThe illustration by Ted Nasmith looks too over the top.
>>214543440oh shit I've seen that place in a dream
>>214542795I SHABOSH HARHENHALL, DATS OFF DA TABLE ASH WELL
>>214542497uhhhh that's how siege warfare works buddy
>>214543440wtf I thought this was Pyke at first
>>214542497How do you do this when you only control one of the roads leading to the castle?
what a waste of a thread. the entire show was femme-slop,
>>214542541Vilius Petrauskas? Medininkai?
>>214542726Wow just like being a wartime soldier in real life.
>>214543886It sure was that was very evident when /tv/ would post that live reaction to the show from some bar and it was overwhelmingly filled with women and then there was all the articles about how the show needed to tone down its 'misogyny' and 'violence towards female characters'
>>214543886What a waste of an anon. Your entire posting history is midwit-slop.
>>214540496Be glad they even remembered Moat Cailin exists at all. Latter seasons they would just have the entire Bolton army waltz through the Neck which would be completely dry and safe.
>>214543976I binge watched this show for the past two weeks and I'm on season 7 and it's so fucking disappointing and I can't understand why retards were going so crazy over this show. it's literally a show weaponized by the CIA to fuel the culture wars that we all endured and continue to be subjected to; including Covid hoax etc. the show was meant to delude and demoralize millions for what came. it was quite successful. again, I'm on season7 and it's horrendous what these hollywood glowniggers did with this show
>>214544080Wait until you see season 8 buddy
>>214544080Terry, plz.Can you elaborate on specific things from the show that does this?
>>214543886>femme-slop,Midwits learned a new word i see.
>>214544125faggot folding his arms and responding scornfully kek
>>214540496i'm at a point in the books where stannis needs to take it so he can continue south. dummy, just ride round it.
>>214544125the show is feminazi trash. only retarded faggots and women will be offended
>>214540496>>214541375>>214541401>>214541714>>214541886>>214541919>>214541993LOTR feels uneven and GoT feels low in production value. LOTR has weak human cities that look bare and empty, but it makes up for it with stunning shots of nature and epic battles. GoT doesn’t even offer that; its towns are tiny, the scenery is plain, the uniforms dull, and the interiors lack furniture or heirlooms.
>>214544257GoT is way superior to LotR. LotR is contrived emotionalism bullshit where you already know the outcome long before you even watch the movies. it's just horrible.
>>214541714>This is what happens when you replace passionate autists with nepo babies.Benioff himself is a nepobaby of the highest caliber. Don't you know who his daddy is?
>>214543886it's not the thread that's a waste because 10 years ago ppl would have branched out into all kindsa castles in different moviesand that's the best case scenario, if op made a castle thread without baiting some slop it would have died within 3-4 replies
>>214544305At least LotR was actually finished by the author which allowed its live action adaptation to have a coherent ending. Can’t say the same for GoT.
>>214544305I am not talking about plot, I am talking about production values
>>214544548contrived emotionalism for pretentious faggots
>>214544548True fans know that Tolkien did not finish his work
>>214544581not yet :3
>>214544581He finished the main series which fat boy will never do.
>>214544548>I'm going to fake and pretend it into be good.
>>214544563Personally I see GRRMs morally grey bullshit to be more pretentious.
>>214544548for me, it's sauron and his minion sauronman
>>214544654You’re an ESL that can barely understand English, why should your opinion on anything matter?
>>214544655>GRRMsit's a true depiction of real life, you retarded faggot. morality is subjective and no amount of pretending it isn't isn't going to change it.
>>214544684you're a dunce faggot. concession accepted. keep pretending. it'll become good soon after.
>>214544703You’re brown.
>>214544752>I"m going to invoke arbitrary standard just to "win" and get the upper hand in our exchange.keep crying faggot. LotR is absolute fucking contrived emotionalism trash and GoT is femme-slop. keep hand-wrining and screaming at the screen tranny.
>>214544783true
>>214544783trvke LotR is the worst kind of "feel good" garbage ever made
>>214544783Your performative shit-flinging did not happen in /got/ when the show was airing, curious.
>>214544829he doesn't know jfc ngmi
>>214544410He is but he used to have a huge network of people who actually earned their place around him. Once Game of Thrones became a phenomenon they replaced all of them with more nepo babies who wanted their names attached.
>>214544783>arbitraryNothing arbitrary about it. Your skin is the same color as poop, your opinion on literally anything is worthless.
>>214545074yet, here you are, seething. kek
>>214544655This. There is nothing pretentious about LotR. It's refreshingly pure.
>>214540496I bet they redo this whole shitshow at some point a la harry potterNot sure it'll be much better but it'll probably happen
>>214545106never said it was pretentious. I said you faggots are pretentious for pretending it's good, when it's not.
>>214545130Nice subjective opinion faggot.
>>214545172you're welcome, you girly-mouthed little bitch.
>>214544136>>214544218Talk like normal people you cunts. If you wanna say that it's feminist slop then say it.
>>214544257LotR cities look bad while LotR fortresses look great.Minas Tirith is both looks cool as a fortress but retarded as a capital city.>>214541993 is right. Adding agricultural fields instantly fixes it.
People argue over season 4 or season 5, but the show died here.
>>214541993Maybe it's all on the other side.
>>214544305>>214544563>>214544783>contrived emotionalismAnother midwit word! Keep going buddy, /tv/ will surely notice you!
>>214545371clearly has, dumb fuk. cry baby
Is there a better spot than oldtown to live in, in westeros? It sounds so nice. I'd definitely choose to be a hightower. Not to mention you're in the reach too.
>>214545371words that trigger
>>214545405Gulltown sounds nice to me. The mountainous area of The Vale of Arryn looks really comfy, and unlike Oldtown it's on the other side of the continent so you don't need to worry about Greyjoy raiding you potentially.
>>214545405>Which noble house would you prefer to born inFar better question is where you'd prefer to be a peasant.Oldtown seems like a good choice. For me it would be The Arbor. I bet their apple-picking and grape-stomping peasants live a pretty comfy life outside the occasional Ironborn raid. Best weather in Westeros, drunk all the time from ubiquitous bootleg crop leftovers wine.
>>214545542estrogen potions are consumed as a daily supplement there
>>214545542Well if anyone other than euron with magic bullshit raided oldtown during a perfect time, they would be stomped into dust. I do think the vale is underrated though, a bit. You've got runestone close by to gulltown which is nice. White harbor and winterfell would be cool but in-between you have fucking forever of just snow. Tarth would be a good one. They'd be pretty desperate for someone to marry brienne too.
>>214545582Nah just slit my throat open and be done with it. You'd be pressed into service and wouldn't even see home at all, you'd die after marching far off. Your wife would be at home getting plowed just like the fields.
>>214545822Honestly it's retarded that no one married Brienne. With inheritance like that people would marry a literal frog.
>>214541332>pushing themdo you really think catapults and siege equipment were actually pushed around on wheels everywhere? they built them when needed and if they wanted to transport them they would disassemble them for mules to carry
>>214545405Craster's Keep
>>214545976didn't she have suitors but she rejected them because she knew they didn't find her attractive and she wanted to be a knight?
>>214540496>nothing but waist-to-chest deep bogs for 5 miles in every direction>can't approach without being seen>can't get siege engines close to it>can't sneak ten good men up to it>army has to camp in the middle of a fucking swamp if you want to starve them out - after a month your own men will cut off your balls and feed them to youMore like Moat Kino.
