>>214590134
I remember when he told everyone to fuck off for saying he was going to die before finishing the next book. But they ended up being right about him never finishing the book, it was the dying part they got wrong.

>>214590134
His ghostwriter died, that's why
dude's a fat fraud

>>214590134
He wants to fake his death soon and have the unfinished story auctioned. This way he gets millions without losing face

>>214590134
That last book came out 14 years ago
I stopped caring a long time ago, buddy

>>214590134
I’m so glad I never got into this show or read a single page of the books. Can’t wait for this fat piece of shit to keel over from a heart attack before finishing so reddit can seethe forever.

>>214590945
wtf why so mean-spirited?

what i dont get is why anyone cares.

theres obviously no real overarching theme or plan for the books, and theres not even a possible resolution that would be satisfying.

the "theme" of ASOIAF is that you're stupid for believing in anything, so in a postmodern sense, a lack of ending is actually the thematically best ending

>>214590791
Just ask chat gpt to write for him

Misleading headline, article said he stepped away for the weekend
>>214590978
Tranny opinion. The main character is literally gonna ressurect like Jesus

>>214590134
More like stepped away 30 years ago.

>>214590978
>why anyone cares.
sunk cost fallacy

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we knew long time he stopped writing soiaf after show flopped

>>214590134
He's gone to get cigarettes

>>214591276
what anime

>>214590134
He's stepping away from writing TWOW the same way I'm stepping away from having sex with Sidney Sweeney

>>214590134
This is why Tolkien is superior

>>214591326
gatchaman 1994

WINDS OF WINTER CHAPTER 5

>As soon as the sun rose above the white peaks in the distance, Jon climbed the icy crevice and began trudging through the frozen field, dragging the wildling woman with him through the snow. To protect his fingers from frostbite he would stop and finger her hairy dry cunt every mile or so. He had to be quick about it too, or else she would get wet and his fingers would soon be lost to the cold. By the fourth or fifth mile she was so annoyed with his cold denial of her pleasure she attempted to rape him. By the sixth mile he let her. Gods, it felt good. Better even than the longest gooning sessions at the Watch. She drained his balls like the dwarf would a wineskin.

>>214590134
perfectionism, fear of failure.
he destroys his legacy by not finishing it, in order to avoid potentially destroying his legacy by finishing it.
always best to finish it bros, unless it's taking too much out of you.
now someone will ghost write it, or make an unofficial sequel, or have ai shart one out

>>214591684
holy shit martin actually posts here!! dude is patchface a drowned god messenger?

>>214590134
its because the show already covered most of the major story beats, so its not going to be too exciting to confirm Jon's parentage after all this time. all he can do with the books is set up the execution better than dumb and dumber did in the show, so hes not very enthusiastic about it.

>>214590134
What was he supposed to do? Didn't the show already totally fuck up what the book would have been?

>>214592781
>What was he supposed to do? Didn't the show already totally fuck up what the book would have been?

It's his own fault because he promised the books would be released as a template

House of the Dragon is a miserable failure as well.

>>214591845
>unless it's taking too much out of you
That's what I think happened to him. When the project was somewhat small early on, he could pump out books at a quick pace. But after the thing ballooned and he kept adding more and more plot threads, he lost control of himself. When the show made him and his books mainstream, and he suddenly found himself under the spotlight of the casual audiences, he caved to pressure.
The ending of the show being so poorly welcomed sealed the deal, he will never release TWOW now, much less A Dream of Spring. And HBO ruining HotD in only the second season is probably going to keep him from releasing the second volume of Fire & Blood.

>>214591038
>morbidly obese degenerate proto-redditor
>writing a Jesus ripoff without subverting him somehow

>>214590134
Remember when he said he would finish the book during Covid, then like two months later blamed politics and said he won’t ever finish?

>>214592820
Great. We know that. Shut the fuck up already. inb4 troon rage

>>214592888
he was right about trump thoughbeit

>words are wind
>for the nonce
>nuncle
>must needs
>guffaw
>homely
>comely

>>214590134
>Fat old kike gives up, like a bitch... fucks cretinous fans in their blown out arseholes

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Suck shit, kikesuckers

>>214591684

How does one finger a dry cunt, you stupid homo virgin

>>214590134
I'm glad that one scene in Logan Lucky still works.

>>214590134
How thoroughly unsurprising.

>>214591684
Sounds like a mummer's farce.

>>214590978
>theres obviously no real overarching theme or plan for the books
provably false
people have been dissecting the books and material around so long they have early drafts and outlines for the overarching story

>>214591684
Hawt

>>214591684
The gooning seshes at the wall must be insane

>>214593482
just jam it up in there dummy

>>214590978
I watched a couple of videos on the CK3 Game of Thrones mod and started being recommended a lot of videos on it, the absolute cope of these channels about some amazing secret overarching story fatso is writing and how Winds has like 10k pages is really sad, imagine being so invested into something not even the author cares about.

>>214590735
>it was the dying part they got wrong.
is not like hes immortal because he will never finish the book, motherfucker will die without finishing it, are you retarded?

>>214590134
fuck this disgusting fat faggot.

>>214590978
this, grrm has said his style of writing is being a gardener, he waters his plants, plucks weeds, arranges things. he is not a serious writer, there are no real themes or point to the story. the next books if they came out would be more of the same and then it just ends. he just comes up with characters and tries to give them interesting things to do and it just got too big for him.

>>214590134
No shit. Fat fucking ingrate

>>214590889
He's already lost as much face as is humanly possible. The nail in his coffin will be the announcement of his death, there isn't any face left to save.

I enjoyed the original GoT despite the gay shit.
I couldn't get into watching that new series though.

>>214591684
I'd pay a dollar for that

This is a good reminder that fat fuck isn't simply doing nothing because he's too old and shit. He's been explicitly working on anything but Winds of Winter.

game of thrones is just One Piece for redditors

>>214590735
it's a feint, he's finished all the books and will release them in a matter of weeks.
you'll all be queueing up to buy them

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>>214590134
people love Homer's Odyssey despite it being incomplete

this is a good move for GRRMartin

>>214590933
still waiting for duke forever to come out, and king conan

The show's ending was the ending he intended and everyone hated it.

>>214590134
I'm so glad I never read past bran falling from the tower in book one. i'd be pissed if i had gotten invested in the series just to get blueballed by a fat man.

>>214597303
Trvke. The ending he had is his mind for a decade was roundly rejected by the public and it broke him.

>>214592822
pity. he should have sealed himself off from media/internet and just finished them.
a writer is supposed to be in his own world.
also, chekt

>>214597290
you read the incomplete version of odyssey?
they found the second half a few years ago dude, the translation is spot on.

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>>214597360
It's still a remarkable piece of low fantasy fiction. Top notch worldbuilding. I would never recommend it to anyone today without prefacing with this, though. It seems we aren't even getting Winds. This is a mind boggling fucking disgrace.

>>214590978
TRUTH FUCKING NEWTRINO NUKERINO

>>214590978
Yep this shit is pure nihilism. That's the entire point of it. Deconstruct older stories that actually had meaning to the and contrast it with the entirely meaningless GRRM world. People liked it because it has such a sprawling universe and cast of characters so they can autism mine it and nothing more. Having no ending is absolutely appropriate.

>>214590134
Everybody who isn't completely retard knows that the show later seasons are what his final two books gonna look like.

>>214597971
Anyone who has actually read the books knows that by the later seasons the show had made so many changes that it is impossible for the final seasons to be the same as the books. A few major reveals, yes, but it will have to be significantly different just by the nature of how much shit the show changed.

>>214598202
It's hopeless to try to explain that. They think Martin is set on doing the same 1x1, basically putting the shown in a book. I don't have words to describe such stupidity beyond the obvious.

>>214597971
>>214598202
>>214598202
>Anyone who has actually read the books knows that by the later seasons the show had made so many changes

QRD?

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>>214598423
They completely cut Aegon Blackfyre, the one true king of the Seven Kingdoms, also known as Azor Ahai.

>>214598202
Some characters are missing or merged and everything is fastforwarded with people teleporting, but the broad strokes would absolutely be the same as the show. But people don't read the books for the plot. They enjoy all the minutia and the steps getting to the plot points.

>>214590134
>>YOU'RE NEVER GETTING IT LMAO

Everyone with have a brain realized this years ago.

>>214598423
There are like half a dozen characters that exist in the books that don't exist at all in the show, and another half dozen that are completely different from how they are in the book. Aegon Blackfyre, Victarion Greyjoy, Stoneheart. There isn't even a 'Night King' in the books so the white walkers stuff will be different due to that. Sansa/Littlefinger will both have entirely different plots because Sansa won't marry Ramsey, etc etc.

>>214598658
Even if you have the same big moment, the circumstances make it a lot different. For example, I would be confident in GRRM pulling off 'Dany goes evil' in a much more cohesive way because the show really tried to hype her as a hero in a way the books purposefully avoided doing.

>>214598495
>>214598853
Are the comics faithful?

>>214597251
Elaborate.

>>214598495
Faegon was removed because he will die so he is irrelevant

>muh game of thrones
lost any relevance in 2019

>>214590889
He already got millions from HBO deals and his book series going from 10 million total sales to 100+ after the show came out, now he needs to enjoy his fame for as long as possible before he dies

>>214590978
That's the greatest amount of cope ever seen in the history of coping

>>214600302
Someone send this to George. With Redford's passing he'll be eternally assblasted.

>>214590933
There’s a group on YouTube that started a fanfiction project to literally just write it themselves. They started two years ago and they’re 42% done. It’s not bad.

>>214590134
LAZY FAT FUCK LAZY FAT FUCK LAZY FAT FUCK FINISH THE BOOK LAZY FAT FUCK

>>214598853
>Aegon Blackfyre, Victarion Greyjoy, Stoneheart.

Bro are you hearing youself. Those characters are fucking irrelevant. They're just padding so the books keep going because that pays the bills for GRRM (until the tv show money started rolling in).
Fantasy writers do that shit all the time. The main story is locked in and they pad it out with sidequests like it's an rpg.

>>214601053
>a group
Why are you pretending you don't know who Preston Jacobs is?
inb4 "but his fans are doing most of the writing"

>>214590978
I just wanted Jaime and Brienne to survive Lady Stoneheart. They deserve a happy ending!

>>214590134
I refuse to read any of his books unless he finishes the series.

>>214591684
Kek

>>214593482
Its not some impenetrable fortress retard

>>214590978
wrong, the idea is the good guys win by hook or by crook and it's not just the purity of their soul, they have to fight until the end and might even die for a cause they believe in. You probably thought Jaime was a hack villain at first.

>>214590134
what's the new project?

>>214590978
the in-your-face overarching plan is the Seven Kingdoms being too busy in-fighting to mount a defense against the big bad White Walkers.
>the "theme" of ASOIAF is that you're stupid for believing in anything
the North Remembers plot that was changed in the show and didn't reflect the books was the North scheming to get rid of the Boltons for their treachery and re-installing Rickon Stark as the lord of the North because the Starks were good lords.
Theon is hated because he backstabbed the Starks and is even called a kinslayer frequently for killing the Starks. (he didn't but they believe he did.)

meanwhile, the Lannisters are getting fucked over and have no friends because they were shitty.

>>214591684
kek based

>>214590978
>the "theme" of ASOIAF is that you're stupid for believing in anything
illiterate retard

>>214592820
the show deleted and blitzed through plotlines then went
>WE RAN OUT OF BOOKS, GUYZ!

>>214602595
D&D literally said that they removed the more magical elements so that your aunt or the QB of your high school team didn't stop watching (they wouldn't have), which is why GRRM released the Damphair chapter which was all about Euron being super based and magic and secretly being Pyat Pree

>>214598853
>Faegon, Victarion, Stoneheart

They literally have done nothing in published books after being introduced, how do you know they are gonna be important?

Judging by last seasons of the show Faegon will capture King's Landing and rule like Queen Cercei before being wrecked by Dany's dragons and Victarion will become Dany's Ironborn ally like Asha in the show and get killed by his brother Euron who will be secondary villian, if it's true I actually think show giving their roles to already established characters was a good idea.

>>214590978
I thought Bran becoming king of westeros as a meek demigod was sufficiently interesting. The path to get there not so much, but we all know the showrunners didn't care much for the IP by its televised conclusion.

>>214590978
Right for the wrong reasons.
Anyone who wants George to rush the books "to see what happens" is a braindead retard. The actual good parts of the books are George's stupid rambling and wasting time.

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>never talks about tax policy
>the characters have to unite to fight an evil dark lord at the end of the story

Tolkien wins again

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I've fallen out of love with the franchise anyway at this point so at least now I can just appreciate the humor in it all without that tinge of resent anymore.

So it's dead then.

>>214590134
he obviously got BTFOd by the hatred for the TV ending, which was his intended ending, that he feels the need to rewrite everything now
he's lost motivation because he's got lots of money and has the opportunity to do other things

>>214590889
Why doesn't he just skip a few steps and make millions simply by releasing the book through his publisher?

based

>>214590134
GRRM being a cunt is kinda liberating for bookfags even though he's not dead yet. Eventually some buttmad autist fan with real writing ability will develop a substitute fanfic that will rise to the top of the fandom as the "official" unofficial ending and I can easily use AI to record it to .mp3 in Roy Dotrice's voice so I don't give a fuck really

>>214601236
Aegon is clearly relevant in the books, he'll probably be in the Cersei role of being the one in King's Landing before Dany gets there to challenge him.

>>214593482
How do you think rape works

>>214603297
>Eventually
It's already happening.

>>214590134
This fat tard is still alive but Gene Wolfe is dead, what a cruel world

>>214603123
but Bran as King makes sense in the books where you can read his dreams and assumedly it will add up compared to the show and D&D getting sick of doing it

GRRM has said many times there was supposed to be a timeskip after the third book. It's obvious if you read it because all of the surviving characters are left in a place where they're going into training arcs (e.g. Jon takes over the Nights Watch, Arya heads off to Bravos, Cersei takes control after Tyrion kills Tywin, Dany decides to stay in Essos to get things in order before moving on, etc.) He could then jump ahead a few years to where Dany is finally ready to invade or the big Other invasion happens or whatever the major escalation of the action that would kick everything back into gear would be while handwaving all of the intermediate details

But then when he sat down to write it he decided against it. So now he has to pad out these training arcs and fill in all of these details. He gets bored because half of the key characters are just shuffling about and adds a bunch of other new plotlines happening elsewhere. The fourth book balloons until he ends up taking a massive chunk out of it and using that for most of the fifth book, which he then struggles to finish. As he gets into writing Winds, he realizes he's fucked up and added a bunch of unnecessary shit and the characters are all on separate timelines that he can't easily sync together and the plot is a gigantic jumbled mess where he has no hope of concluding half of the subplots satisfyingly.

So he just gives up and starts writing side projects instead figuring he'll get back around to it at some point. And then he never does. And while I don't think he cared about the reaction to the ending of the show because he knows it was a rushed mess based off of bullet points he gave them, I can imagine seeing how someone like Littlefinger died in it and thinking to himself "I have no fucking idea how to conclude his story either"

>>214603755
specifically he ended up writing a bunch of Lost style flashback chapters and thought telling the story straightforward might be better

>>214597263
I didn't buy any of his previous ones, so no.

>>214603018
in fact, now I outirght enjoy seeing people bash this shit, it only proves how retarded I was back then for falling for its charms

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daenerys sounds so fucking hot in the books

>>214597421
What's the best translation for The Odyssey?

>>214602668
Quinten didn't have more magic than Daby. they could have killed him for points witb QB and my aunt to mock magical shit.
Aegon and the Golden Company weren't magical either.
niether is Arianne crowning Myrcella and Arys Oakheart dying to Hotah.
they killed Selmy prematurely and dealt with the siege too fast and too shittily because they wanted to chase Disney shit. i'm glad they were ditched.

>>214595041
he knows nothing

>>214590978
Lots of good plotlines and characters. Simple as that.

>>214598945
they're ugly

I don't like fat people and I think that this guy is a fucking loser.

So glad I never got into this shit show series.
Slovenly fat bastards like him going on about tax policies, describing things akin to "some straining to shit" and fucking midgets everywhere. Absolute bullshit. That shit head can finish a fucking salad before a goddamn book.

>>214603018
>I've fallen out of love with the franchise
how?
>>214603982
>this shit
the series or gurm?
the books are pretty good even if gurm is a piece of shit that will never finish them

>>214603297
Preston "no one knows what causes inflation" Jacobs has his fans wrote chapters and some other fans edit them.
he tells them an outline for each chapter.
some chapters are good while others are complete shit.

>>214590134
another obituary I will read with relish. Fuck this fat greedy moron.

>>214590134
How come people can care about this book at all?
It is already heavilly spoiled by tv show ending

>>214605149
It’s mostly just coping dany fags praying that her book fate will be different (it’s not)

>>214590134
I have made my peace with his death and unfinished legacy.
They better make his grave location a secret of millions must go and spit.

>>214590978
People will tell you that he deconstructs shit just to make it up later and it's about HOPE beneath the DARKNESS and that his gotchas and twists are pure genius and you just don't get it when so far it's just been people being miserable and dying with some moments of peace that are dashed seconds later with no hope for actual happiness because there are no books and no end in sight.

>>214605096
>Preston "no one knows what causes inflation" Jacobs
Asoiaf fan seriously are the biggest retards with delusions of being smart. When Preston had a question about the supposed influence of Plato's Republic on asoiaf, only for gurm to basically go 'huh?' then talk with someone else about salad dressing.
Perfect metaphor for a series that tries to set itself up as some 200 IQ critique of power, war and Tolkein, only to just have endless food descriptions and endless rape and smut.

>>214605039
>the books are pretty good even if gurm is a piece of shit that will never finish them
No, they aren't. As they stand, they are just a bloated meandering soap oprea, with endless mystery boxes and cheap shocks there to disguise the lack of any genuine thematic resonance and nonsensical plot

>>214592888
Covid was the last time I thought he had a chance to actually finish the fucking thing. If he couldn't be assed to do it then he simply does not care or is incapable of doing it at all.

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>>214591871
this is an imposter
the real one would have Jon stop at some point to empty his bowels

a thread full of people who have never read one of the books, seething out of their minds about them. interesting.

>>214606934
I've read them. They're shit, and that's why they'll never be finished. Cry harder.

>>214606863
>endless food descriptions and endless rape and smut
The real retards are the ones that take blatantly exaggerated fan gripes at face value and use them as hot takes to make it seem like they've actually read a book before.

>>214598853
>There isn't even a 'Night King' in the books so the white walkers stuff will be different due to that.
Why do people keep saying this?
We have no idea what the culture of the Others are like, there's nothing that stops grrm from revealing that there is some sort of leader heading the march south. You could still have some sort of gay battle where the leader is defeated in battle, the Others' are routed, and the long night is stopped from happening.

The other characters not being in the show, cements how irrelevant they will be in the story.
Stoneheart is just a dumb speedbump for Brienne, where she'll have to choose her Oath or her love, mirroring Jaime's stabbing of his King. We know all this already, we know Jaime will finally knight her before he dies, and she'll be the most picturesque knight by being King's Guard.
Aegon just serves to show that Westeros doesn't really NEED Dany, and will gladly pick a different leader once the Usurper Baratheons are dead. This realization that nobody gives a fuck about her, and just sees her as a foreign invader will drive her crazy because she has no home, all friends are dead, and she burns down KL.
Greyjoys, Krakens, dragon horn is all just to hype up the final battle where everyone is bloodied, brings Dany to only 1 dragon, and explains why she comes out on top.
Sansa/LF is different in details, sure. But in the grand scheme of things it's all the same. Stannis will get BTFO, so that Jon and Sansa could seem more impressive at winning against Boltons. LF's schemes will finally catch up to him, etc.

>>214594884
The Wall is mostly frozen pre-cum. No other way it could have realistically have been built.

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>>214606962
>>214606934
Holy kek this dumb nigga still thinks the books are actually going to be completed

>>214597505
Fuck this AI horseshit, Leon is adasexual.

>>214598853
That you think they would not be killed without fanfare for the plot to be business as usual says a lot about your denial levels. I promise you by the halfwaypoint of winds all of those characters are dead and the rest of it plays out like the show. Not like it matter in the end, because he'll never finish writing it

It would be very funny to see Brandon Sanderson come in again and knock out the book in under a year.

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>>214597505
>Top notch worldbuilding.
>It's just cartoonishly violent medieval Britain plus dragons and ice zombies
>There's also some bullshit about the seasons that gets forgotten after the first book
>gurm clearly throws out numbers without thinking about them (700 foot wall)
>Geography and settlement placement makes no sense, hey let's have a famous trade hub in some distant corner of the map
>world map is literally Ireland flipped upside down and glued to Britain, germ has admitted this

Game of Thrones was bad from the very start since it's nothing but a misery porn, cynical piece of shit made from nothing but anger and bitterness towards a better author (Tolkien), who Marting was so envious over he made sure his book will be the complete opposite antithesis to whatever said author originally wrote. It's a vile, putrid mess.

>>214591684
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAA

>>214590134
and if he takes those steps his heart will give out and he'll keel over and become a vegetable

the white walkers travel south away from the northern cold so the ice melts off them and it turns out they are alright guys and they just relax on dornish beaches

>>214604300
Richard lattimore has a good one.
i was kidding about the sequel though

what's supposed to be the overall theme of the book? there's no heroes, everyone is "morally" gray and vile in some way. there's no "good guys" to root over, just whoever you personally liked based on feeling or similar held values or whatever. it just seems like a worthless story with nothing to gain from when you read it but misery.

I remember either him or someone that worked alongside with GRRM that he was supposed to finish 3 books 2 of which would have happened during the show and the last 1 after. Are you telling me he never released even 1 of those 3 books? His publisher/HBO would have lent him a hand in organizing/ghost writing his series if it was this overly complicated.

REMINDER DEAR ANONS

In 2018 he stated he's few months away from finishing the books.

There are more and more whisperings going around that what happened is that his PC/hard drive failed, he had no copy of the manuscript anywhere, and he had to start from scratch.

>>214597300
Me personally, i hope for Treasure Planet revival.

>>214607734
>there's no heroes, everyone is "morally" gray and vile in some way

Jon Snow isn't. He's a straightforward hero.

So was Ned Stark. He as such a beloved, honourable man that after his death and betrayal most of the North IMMEDIATELY started conspiring to bring one of his children to the throne. Outside of the Boltons, who are universally despised, literally no one wanted the throne to themselves.

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>>214597290
>people love Homer's Odyssey despite it being incomplete
>this is a good move for GRRMartin

>>214607238
They are - by a different writer, one GRRM is dead.
>B..but he said he wouldn't allow it!

Who will stop them? His children? This isn't Tolkien or Pratchett.

>>214607734
I guess it is just the story itself, like watching a soap opera.
the whole premise of the tv program seemed to be sensationalist tricks repeated, killing off beloved hero characters one after another in increasingly shocking ways.
boy pushed off ledge by prince charming who's incesting with his disney princess sister, ned executed and not saved at the last minute, all the main character starks leading nowhere and just being killed off one after another with no point or resolution. all the seemingly important dire wolf gifts from ned dying off or disappearing, the whole warging thing being meaningless and unused. finally, the beautiful innocent girl queen overseas just burning everyone to death.
i think people were expecting more for the remaining books, and now they'll never know.
perhaos no real resolution was forthcoming.
>>214607917
yes, none have come out.

>>214608302
happens:
https://www.nme.com/news/music/metallica-46-1213476
.etallica guy lost 250 riffs he'd recorded on his phone and not backed up.
i guess people are people, and despite the apparent value, don't think about data disappearing.
>>214608313
hope it happens for you dude.
arnie could still do king conan but it would have been best 20-25 years ago

>>214590735
nothing of value was lost

>>214603755
Don't forget he recently admitted he realized he accidentally killed off a character that's necessary for the ending he had planned.

>>214608540
somehow, jon sno returned

>>214595225
point is he wouldn't finish it even if he was immortal at this point

>>214607300
Chris spiked his drink.

if you still cared about this shit after season 5 you deserve every scrap of slop you receive

>>214590134
everybody knows how the war of the roses ended anyway

>>214603755
The serie was supposed to be a trilogy, but once he saw how popular and well recieved the first book was he changed course and tried to milk the serie as much as possible. And his ''gardener'' rethoric is simply a way of saying ''I make shit up as I go along''.
Hes ultimately a novella/short story writter where you can just let the story grow and end on a twist. He should never have expanded beyond that because his lack of self discipline does not allows for such endeavor.
Looking back, what he really wanted to write was a bunch of unrelated or loosely related short stories set in the same fictional universe of his own creation. Even a trilogy is too much for this guy.

Do you think Littlefinger lied about popping Catelyn's cherry?

The less he wrote, the more he ate.
The more he ate, the more he shat.
The more he shat, the more he lied.

2025 found him squatting in the cope bullshit, spewing excuses from his rotund ass.

>>214609274
The guy is really depressed. His post-worldcon blog is basically indicative that he is ready to retire. He'll probably push to get some of his older stories to have a TV adaptation and thats about it.

>>214590134
He's gonna die and his "extensive notes" will be given to a new writer who will not only quickly churn out Winds and Dream but proceed to pull a DUNE and write another dozen spinoffs, prequels and sequels titled shit like GoT: Rise of the Dorthaki or GoT: West of Westeros.

>>214609485
>but proceed to pull a DUNE and write another dozen spinoffs, prequels and sequels
sounds baste

>>214590978
The First Law trilogy had a similar theme and it ended just fine.

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Thank god we got HOTD so I can see how hot adult Rhaenyra is. Sadly she's not a milk truck like in the books

>>214597615
I'll truth nuke my nuts down your throat

>>214590134
>ITS OVER
It was over when everybody hated his ending in the show. He killed all the interesting characters and cornered himself with his edgy writing, and now he can't really change the ending.

>>214608503
King Conan would be best now because it requires him to actually be old and frail. The story can't be actually about Conan still kicking ass and taking names. It needs to be about him worrying over his legacy, his successor, admitting that his body is failing him and he will die of old age no matter his will. So he looks upon his current sons who obviously never had his harsh upbringing and they're spoiled brats unfit to rule. Conan's bastard son however could do it, but must first prove himself worthy and demonstrate that he has his father's internal fire and drive to succeed. But obviously the other sons would be jealous and not want him to win. You're right that it would suck with modern filmmaking habits though.

>>214597505
>>214607428
I hate how he copied Melniboné and normalfags will never notice.

>>214609812
This shit is fucking boring, there's zero worldbuilding or anything that made early GoT fun, it's just one plotline that is shitty drama and muh valyrian niggers

He clearly lost interest because subverting expectations in fiction isn't a novelty anymore like back when he started.
His gimmick of having good guys die dumb ignoble deaths isn't unique anymore and he knows it.

>>214610016
This is true, at this point someone releasing a generic fantasy adventure would actually be a breath of fresh air. Time is a flat circle.

>>214590134
I for one am excited for whatever WILDCARDS novella he has in the works.

The reaper should have taken this fat faggot instead of Gemmell.

>>214609994
S1 was good, S2 is really, really bad. hopefully they course correct in S3

>>214610351
I'm at s1e8 and i'm fucking dying from boredom

Gurm should have doubled the number of books in the series, but halved the page count per book. He'd have had a steady flow of releases and the constant feeling of progress would have motivated him to carry on and finish it.

>>214610081
I imagine those still come out they're probably just labeled under YA and quickly forgotten about. It's generic epic fantasies you don't see anymore, probably because the demographic with the required attention span and vocabulary has been steadily shrinking for decades.

>>214610419
i think they just assume people know the world from GoT and want to keep it focused on House Targ, as its essentially a civil war story. In S3/S4 far more houses and the realm get pulled into the story

If HBO delayed the show 10 years, would george have completed the books and would the show be better for it?

>>214610700
No. The show would be complete shit if made now. And grrm was already running out of steam when they decided to make the show. They delayed a whole year because he promised to have Winds out soon and that was well over a decade ago. Grrm lost all interest in it and wanted to write different stories instead, but no one gives a shit about those other ones. Especially not with how he treated his fans already.

>>214602975
George just needs to write a deus machina moment that wins the day at the end and he can be as big a hack as Tolkien

>>214609127
>serie
ESLS SHOULD BE FUCKING HANGED

>>214609993
Everyone copied Melniboné

>>214590978
>what i dont get is why anyone cares.
why would people who read a massive story that was massive successful care about the ending? you are retarded anon. imagine if tolkien didnt finish his story. it wouldnt take its place in literature if it were unfinished.

>>214610016
>His gimmick of having good guys die dumb ignoble deaths

Only this isn't the case. Literally every single positive male character dies due to treason, which is the #1 reason for good characters to die in fiction.

>>214591845
there is a theory that got ending was actually his true ending and he lost all motivation to finish his book because he already knows the audience will hate it

>>214590134
When had he not stepped away from it? It was suppose to be released like 15 years ago.

>>214590134
Anyone that hasn't already accepted this years ago is retarded and beyond saving.

>>214602668
Erm, but I thought Euron was secretly Daario?

>>214609903
the original king conan was about one last fight tto go out in battle so he doesn't end up like king osrick. they changed that to the sons stuff in a rewrite a decade or more further down the line that also never happened.
it needed the original director and composer, who were both on board but arnold'a political career stopped it. then the composer and finally milius can't anymore.
https://www.joblo.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-john-milius/
interesting article where arnie speaks about the script. it's more his last fight.

>>214610478
makes sense. but others would complain about being dealt half the amount

>>214611598
book flow was different, so the build up would have been more fitting.

I think everyone knew that like a decade ago.

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>finishes your story via youtube videos for you

>>214602272
heart surgery

>>214602272
hot dog eating contest

>>214609812
that's your type, huh?

>>214611598
its more to do with how that ending doesn't make any real sense due to all the departures from the book

>>214603539
>he thinks women don't get wet during rape

Its so sad i loved DRONE plot in the books and Myrcella would be king's landing with no ear and scar over her face like tyrion has
fuck u martin

>>214602272
drinking an entire bottle of ranch dressing

>>214590134
this would imply he's been working on it at all which i doubt has been true for years

>>214611822
yes, well imagine Emma but her G cup tits, a sweat fetish and a nymphomaniac level of sex drive, that's my type.

>>214601539
Preston...Jakey? Never heard of her.

>>214590134
Ameridumbs don't read books, but when they do it's elfshit.
You literally could NOT make this up

>>214590134
KWAB
He ripped of Tolkie again!

>>214609994
What would you have her do?

>>214590963
He writes deconstructions. He's a mean spirited person by default and wants to undermine any genre he writes about.

>>214590134
Holy shit. Craig David got old.

>>214611574
Zoomies genuinely don't understand the concept of endings. To them, stories go on forever. There is always another sequel. Even when it "ends" or characters "die", it's only temporary and picks right back up soon aftet some contrivance and everyone is back to life.

>>214612465
Kill valyrian niggers
HOUSE WAR NOW

>>214607734
Food and rape is the overall theme. It’s the only thing on GRRMs mind.

>>214591684
martin is mega based

>>214590963
Get off 4chin and WRITE THE BOOK YOU FAT FUCK!

>>214611738
>if The Ick was a person

>>214612466
No. He's an edgy teenager at heart. Muh incest, muh gory deaths, muh rape, muh shit and vomit.
He's just using the excuse of 'realism' to be an edgelord. It' like reading fanfiction from some 12 yo.

>didn't finish his thousand worlds series
>hasn't finished asoiaf
>hasn't finished Dunc & Egg
>hasn't finished fire & blood
WHAT THE FUCK IS HE EVEN DOING

>>214613570
Sculpting his body with fat.

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>>214609993
>>214611507
>Melniboné
>see this name every so often in /got/ threads
>finally look it up
>all the names look like shit my 14 year old self came up with for a Warcraft II map editor campaign
R'lin K'ren A'a? Fucking really?!

>>214613570
>>214613696
wrong, i think he has a wolf farm or something, it must keep busy 100% of his time
also he ran out of source material, not he didnt write the stories, he stole a lot of his stuff

>>214593482
You sound like a quitter.

>>214613570
Eating shrimp and getting his fat pink mast blown by women at cons

ASOIAF books 4 and 5 are shit, and it's likely the ending would have been even worse.

>>214601236
Only stoneheart isn't irrelevant. D&D removing Stoneheart from the show was the reason George left the series

>>214606952
you lost and got raped eric

>>214609139
did you read the books? he fucked lysa tully and he thought it was catelyn because he was delirious after getting BTFO by brandon stark

>>214615428
yeah bro so relevant she hasnt been seen or spoken of since the end of feast for crows

>>214590791
Ghost writter?
Im not so sure but it's not like his story is extremely original since it's just a fantsy retelling of the War of the Roses between york and lancaster (stark and lanister) mixed with mongols and norse frost giants

>>214613443
>>214612466
Obviously you hang around 4chan for wholesome uplifting content.

>>214597300
Duke Nukem Forever came out in 2011.

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I know, I know. Some of you will just be pissed off by this, as you are by everything I announce here that is not about Westeros or THE WINDS OF WINTER. You have given up on me, or on the book. I will never finish WINDS, If I do, I will never finish A DREAM OF SPRING. If I do, it won’t be any good. I ought to get some other writer to pinch hit for me… I am going to die soon anyway, because I am so old. I lost all interest in A Song of Ice and Fire decades ago. I don’t give a shit about writing any longer, I just sit around and spend my money. I edit the Wild Cards books too, but you hate Wild Cards. You may hate everything else I have ever written, the Hugo-winners and Hugo-losers, “A Song for Lya” and DYING OF THE LIGHT, “Sandkings” and BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, “This Tower of Ashes” and “The Stone City,” OLD MARS and OLD VENUS and ROGUES and WARRIORS and DANGEROUS WOMEN and all the other anthologies I edited with my friend Gardner Dozois, You don’t care about any of those, I know. You don’t care about anything but WINDS OF WINTER. You’ve told me so often enough).

Thing is, I do care about them.

And I care about Westeros and WINDS as well. The Starks and Lannisters and Targaryens, Tyrion and Asha, Dany and Daenerys, the dragons and the direwolves, I care about them all. More than you can ever imagine.

You can't read Finnegan's Wake! I tried again and I'm convinced it is a troll job. It is utter nonsense and buffoonery! James Joyce was a hipster irony shitting drunkard!

>>214590134
no shit. did it really take you this long to realize?

>>214591684
WINDS OF WINTER TYRION IV

A fresh wave of bile rose in Tyrion’s throat, a familiar guest these past months, as the stench of stale wine and something far fouler assailed his nostrils. Another one of the queen’s “accidents,” the eunuchs had whispered, their faces tight with suppressed laughter as they thrust the steaming bucket and scrubbing brush into his hands. Brown stains, they’d called them, a euphemism that did little to ease the wretchedness of the task. He knelt, the gritty floor cold against his knees, and plunged the brush into the lukewarm water, the sight of it swirling with the dark sediment only adding to his misery. The rags, stiff with dried muck, clung to his fingers as he dragged them across the offending streaks on the stone, each smear a testament to Daenerys’s unchecked appetites and his own humiliating decline. Yet, as the minutes bled into an hour, and the rhythmic scrub, scrub, scrub wore away the grime, something shifted within him. The meticulousness, the simple, undeniable satisfaction of restoring order to chaos, began to assert itself. His thoughts, usually a tangled knot of despair and cunning, quieted to the steady rhythm of his work. The stench faded, replaced by the faint, clean scent of the soap. A tiny, almost imperceptible smile touched his lips as he surveyed the now-gleaming flagstones. For this small patch of the world, at least, Tyrion Lannister coaxed a quiet purity from the chaos, and in that brief, tender victory, a hush of peace curled around him like warm breath on bare skin.

>>214616045
Just imagine the shits Dany takes as she gets accustomed to Essosi foods: jellied dog brains, fetal pigs, honeyed locusts...

>>214611507
Lol no they didn't. You're probably one of those retards who thinks The Witcher ripped it off, as well.

George rr Martin is a pedophile and should be killed

>>214590134
Elden ring 2 baby

>>214590134
I abandoned corporate media after Game of Thrones, and my first and last trip through the science fiction fantasy genre. I'm very content with what I get from indie publishing. Pitying corporations failing you it's worse than complaining about the government. Brother, these are not taxes, pick another book

>>214615555
she's in the prologue of winds and kills jeyne westerling and her family

>>214615648
I get how he may be hurt by the situation, but he brought it on himself. This attempt to farm pity was very ineffective because of that.

>>214616887
he fucks rosties and prostitutes.

>>214613570
>no Yi Ti books
>no GRRM version of the Three Kingdoms
it's over

>>214590978
it could definitely have a good ending, but i think george actually hasn't decided what he wants to do yet.

>>214618699
He already said he wants it to be bittersweet.

>millions came rolling in when the TV show released
>went on vacations to eat, drink and fuck hookers
>decided he was happier doing that than finishing a book series

Based desu

>>214590134
He's never gonna finish the books because he wrote himself into a corner. He's five books in and he's still in Act 1 of his story. The Others have yet to breach the wall, Jon Snow has yet to be resurrected, Daenerys has yet to consolidate power in Essos, Fake Aegon has yet to conquer Westeros, Daenerys has yet to arrive and fight him in the Second Dance of the Dragons (which George has confirmed will happen), Lady Stoneheart's plot is nowhere near close to being finished, Arya is a 10 year old girl in Essos still learning to be an assassin, Cersei is still fighting the Tyrells for control of King's Landing, Bran still hasn't done anything, the Northern Conspiracy has yet to be fleshed out, the Boltons have yet to be defeated so that the Starks can regain power, Stannis still a massive loose end, Daenerys still hasn't gone insane and become the final villain, and there are literal dozens of characters with subplots that are going nowhere.
Its too much to cover, especially with the pretentious way that GRR Martin likes to write his books. He's on record saying that he doesn't want the Others to be seen like zombies or mindless orcs for humanity to simply beat back, which means beating them won't be as simple as having Jon and Daenerys rally an army of righteous men to fight back against them.

>>214593482
That's part of the joke. Martin is infamous for his terrible sex scenes

>>214590791
>Writing is hard. This [Mr. Martin's gluttinous inaction] was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Tolkien had a very medieval philosophy: that if the writer was good and dedicated, the book series would prosper and you would secure a legacy. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What if the Red Lobster tasted too good and there were free trips to Dubai? With little Dubai ice creams, in little ice cream 'cribs'

>>214619945
I still think his notion a time skip never could have worked is total bullshit. Stick Iron Islands in the prologue, Dany's first chapter ends with Tyrion popping up shocking the audience and his sheer hatred and broken state conveyed in his own chapter's monologues, etc.

>>214619945
This all begs the question: why limit yourself to seven books? Do ten if you have to

>>214590978
This, so much deconstruction and post-modernist mess can only bring you this far

>>214620287
fully agree,
an iron islands + dorne prologue would have been fine

>>214593482
forcefully. well done on outing yourself as a virgin though.

>>214619945
Act 1 ended with the third book, with the Red Wedding and Tyrion's trial.
You're not too far off though, books 4 and 5 are the beginning of Act 2

>>214620317
He can't finish 6, how the fuck is he going to write 10?
He would just bloat the next book with filler and end up needing 12. Then 14. Then 16, and so on.

>>214621634
>He can't finish 6, how the fuck is he going to write 10?
Beyond the assumption he's a lazy cunt content with his riches, the idea is how the fuck he wraps it up in only two books. Obviously you write more than that and bloat to your heart's content

>>214593161
>armor made of nielle
>mummers
>hour of the wolf (sometimes midnight, sometimes dawn, sometimes noon)
>where do whores go (I don't know, George, your stomach. Did you eat the fucking whores?)

>>214621741
But that was his problem from the start.
Originally, it was planned to be a trilogy. When he realized he couldn't finish the story in only 3 books, he said he would finish it in 5. Then in 6. Then in 7.
He would always bloat the series more and more with each new books, open new plot threads because deep down he's a soap opera writer, plot threads that would never be finished even if he lived forever.
That is ofc if he even bothered to keep writing, which he doesn't.

>>214606893
Every chapter of ASOIAF
>character wakes up
>gets dressed
>walks
>has breakfast
>recollects what happened to him since the last chapter ended in a cliffhanger
>walks
>enters a room room where somebody tells him something that constitutes as a cliffhanger

Rinse /repeat.

Even if it was a literal cliffhanger with an actual hanging from a cliff, the next chapter would start with that hero waking up, getting dressed, having breakfast, recollecting how he got out of it.

People talk about Grrm killing people, uuhh nobody's safe, but fucking Ned is like the only POV character he actually killed.

Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Despite some of its issues with character development it at least had a 110 show that wrapped shit up. Also the sci-fi was really easy to digest as shorthand naval combat more akin to musket warfare its characters were based off of. To say that GRRM was the first to kill of characters in mass like this is a huge mistake when anime has been doing this since the first few gundam series.

>>214590134
That useless fat fucking lard, fuck him.

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>Gurm fans have read over 5,000 pages of pulp fantasy slop for nothing

>>214623334
His stuff reminds of me tom clancy and steven king. Quick reads without all that much to digest. Its surprising to me he didn't just shove himself into a castle for 2 years and shit out the rest of the 3 books.

>>214615083
reddit take

>>214622212
Not counting prologue and epilogue characters, Ned, Catelyn, Jon and Arys Oakheart are the only POVs to die. Of these, we know Catelyn and Jon come back.
Theon and Davos' deaths were hinted, Davos twice I think.
Aeron Greyjoy and Barristan Selmy are most likely dying in TWOW if it ever comes out (it won't)

>>214598495
He exists to die by danny and enbitter her against the 7 kingdoms because they'll sit and watch them fight then support whoever wins after

>>214590978
Christcuck seething.

>>214613570
He moved on to the next shiny thing: Elden Ring movie.

>>214590134
Honestly, this dude is totally out of excuses. If he worked fast enough to complete literally one page a day he would have been done years ago. And I don't just mean this book, the next book too. This dude just straight up doesn't want to finish his book. I would honestly never have read this series than be left with a cliff-hanger, what an asshole.

>>214602487
I agree with most of the stuff they proposed in the show, including evil daenerys. They rushed it though.
The battle of Winterfell should have been a defeat for the humans. Then do a timeskip, let the winter last some years, let then Sam to come back, more wiser, from the library city, etc. Let the living find refuge in an overpopulated King's Landing or even Harrenhall, maybe in the Isle of Faces.
Some fans are creating vids with AI to recreate S7 & 8.

>>214590134
He claimed not to read fan theories online but that has to be total lie right? He absolutely read people call all the coming twists, especially after the last seasons gave a full outline, and lost steam in part because his subversions were so predictable and people saw pretty much the whole story coming.

>>214611082
Tolkien isn't a hack

I'm so glad I never bothered to read any of the books because I knew he wouldn't finish them even a long time ago. I dropped GoT after season 4 which was probably still too much.

>>214626254
Its an HBO show so having missing plot threads, incomplete ideas and badly written characters is the entire reason why they made it into a show. It fits their entire design philosophy and people still gobble their slop up like its some high end art. Their shows are no better than breaking bad or the walking dead.

>Bookfags ended up even more eternally BTFO than /tv/fags
Give this man a medal.

>>214610351
2 years for a season. Nigger not even a good season is worthy of that wait

>>214590134
>I got rich from writing an incomplete story and pissing everyone off
chad move