reduced to being a puppy dog.
>>214631547the real aliens were the friends we made along the way
>>214631547The xeno was glorious in Covenant, and you hated it, so you deserve what you get.
the original 1979 movie xenomorph had some sort of mystical quality to it. it was really creepy honestly
>>214631547Disney wants to reinvent Alien as a Young Adult franchise due to the success of Romulus amongst Gen Z moviegoers. Ergo, expect more pet xeno hijinks & rewriting the xenos as misunderstood good guys in the near future.
>>214631672>xeno>CovenantThat wasn't a xenomorph. That was a prototype precursor referred to as the "Praetomorph" in official lore. It noticeably lacked an exoskeleton & it was less intelligent compared to the standard xenomorph that would come after. It also had an accelerated growth cycle.
>>214631672>you must like shit movie>if you dont like shit movie you deserve more shit movies and even worse tv shows
>>214631679Disney ruins everything it touches
>>214631679>Young Adult franchiseit already is. Why do always do this. All these old classic franchises were never young adult, yet everyone from kids and to adults enjoyed them. No one likes these fucking zoomer retards running around with aliens
>>214631547Alien: Earth is literally not canon, I just hope season 2 gets canceled.
alien has 2 good movies, the first 2. the rest is varying degrees of fucking it up. A:E want that bad considering what has already been done. it was a fun watch, at least. terrible for the story/franchise, but fun to watch
>>214631885Doubtful.Season 2 was likely penned long before Season 1 was even finished, as is the case with most current year straight-to-streaming goyslop due to investor obligations.
>>214631729i recently rewatched the movie and while you're right that it's likely a prototype, it's still basically a xenomorph. david would've likely created the final version a while later using the colonists.
>>214631679>the success of Romulus amongst Gen Z moviegoers.seriously? romulus was so forgettable
>ywn be a mad scientist studying a xenomorph hive on the company dime.
>>214631672The alien hasn't been as scary since Alien 3, I really liked it in Covenant.
>>214631547alien is over 40 years old and has always been campy with dumb stuff, the books in particular range from OK to downright awful they let random authors right basically whatever they wanted like george lucas did with the plethora of star wars novels written by people he gave the rights to as a favor. Most of the media we get are just OK then you get something kino every once in a while like AVP2, Alien isolation, or Dark descent as far as games go then for movies they are honestly not that bad and a lot of the complaints about people behaving stupidly are themselves stupid complaints because people behave stupidly all the time. Granted alein earth people are extra stupid it seems but w/e
>>214631885ridley pls go
>>214631547The cosplay looking suit is the worst part
>>214631672I didn't hate it, I just loved the wheat farmer memes
>>214632468Start an ant farm.
i mean look. some pitbulls are murderers and others are puppies. not every creature of a speices is exactly the same
>>214632746Start two.
why does it look so bad. do they have a shittier stunt suit in certain shots, some shots its okay. but as bad as Romulus they couldve modified one of those suits if this is the best they could do
The Alien of Peace
>>214631547its like seeing grandpa terminator holy shit its so bad
>>214632862The costume is literally sub fan-film level.It would not even be so bad if they just shot the alien correctly. Keep it in shadows/dark and limit how often we got a clear view of it.Having a bad costume and then just shooting it out in the open during the day is the worst possible thing they could have done here.Are quality practical effects and people who know how to shoot them right just lost knowledge at this point?
I remember reading a cool comic where the good predators and colonial marine were fighting evil predators with xenomorph dogs
>>214631547Just because Alien Earth is retarded, does not make Covenant good. Both are terrible.
>>214633080like i said in my post Romulus wasnt great but its suits and puppets were much better. and like you said even in this set photo, lighting is playing a huge favor
>>214631679the only zoomer thing about romulus is the xeno fodder
>>214632862>broad daylight lighting instead of night time where you'd have a better chance of making it look more convincing>lighter colored xeno which doesn't help>suit itself looks cheapShould have just done CGI at this point
>>214631547Not for me anon, if you didn’t eject from the franchise after Prometheus you deserve all the shit you eyes can take
>>214633171Prometheus and Covenant are kino. You must be a millennial redditor to hate them.
>>214633348>Covenanttrash
>>214631547
>>214631679you literally aren't allowed to do anything on this faggot ass earth
>>214632862ouchits kinda passable in low light and if it moves fast but... holy shit thats bad
>>214634080Romulus was good
>>214632862incompetencebad design, bad choreography, bad framing, bad lighting, bad editing, bad cgi, bad directionin that scene aloneand not using different techniques accordingly to need
>>214631679you just know this scene but with aliens is coming soon
>>214635230That was literally the only good scene in Romulus.
>>214632862because they keep showing it in full bright lighting so you can see every flaw which would otherwise be hidden
illegal migrants are misunderstood
>>214633348>Dogshit movies that nobody liked and shit on the original good movies is secretly good
>>214635464would a xenomorph win against a dinosaur? could it it make an alien dinosaur?or maybe just an alien vs an elephant? that would be something
>>214635562Disney literally has an infinite budget, this isn't the 70's or 90's anymore where you had to use tricks to hide the flaws of the prosthetics.
>>214636283and yet the flaws remainplus showing it fully lit dispels all the tension
>>214631679Frickk yeah alien labubu when brehs
>>214635464Except Wendy is going to be evil and want to kill all men with her xenomorph horde. She's going to do better than David ever did
>>214636701That going to make the pillow talk awkward
>>214631547>make alien show>alien is barely in alien show>alien is shiti mean i saw it coming a mile away, all writers want to do these days is insert their barely related OC into something thats already popular
>>214632586>authors rightOh my, I don't think I'll be reading the rest of this post, how embarrassing for you, naturally I'm also going to assume you opinion is dreadful too.
>>214636701>Wendy is going to be evildid you miss the part where she released the xeno that killed all the innocent lab people?
>>214631547Aliens are not scary when out in the open in daylight. The fear of the alien comes when you have nowhere to run and you know it could come for you at any moment from every corner of the ship.The only good story that makes you relate with them is Six from the AvP game, but it obviously doesn't work in a movie, everything else is giga-slop.
>>214631547>pitch story>producers say it doesnt seem good enough for a safe profit>but that if a popular franchise like Alien gets placed in theyll fund it>"ok">make your original character(donut steel) behead the first xenomorph that shows while taking almost no hits>she has no combat experience and the mind of a kid btw>next xenomorph she just pets and coos into being her puppyAt this point I wonder if that was done out of pettiness as a "fuck you" or if he really, unironically thought people that like Alien would enjoy that
>>214632501>london pubWas alien filmed in the UK?
>>214637189They had the perfect opportunity to just copy Predator but with xenomorphs, guess they were too retarded to notice
Why don’t the xenomorphs just kill Wendy?Also why did Nibs say she was pregnant?They can’t just move the plot on with these details and powers.You can’t just leave half the aliens in a cage the whole season too. But now we have loose Xenos on an island like JP.
Yeah, I was disappointed by that. I could maybe buy the xeno not attacking a synthetic if it made the right noises and movements and all that, but as soon as it held off killing an uninfected human, it was nonsense.They have one more episode to explain it away with something better than Wendy simply saying "don't kill him" in xeno language, but I doubt they've come up with anything satisfactory. The xeno hatching out of Joseph's lung wouldn't cut it.
>>214631547>awww he's smilingWhy are w*men like that
They were Jobbers in Aliens the only good Alien movie
>>214632862I much prefer slimy aliens. Why are they so dry now?
>>214637687Yes, and Aliens, which Cameron apparently hated
>>214638100AI fucks up fluids so less work to have them without
>>214637830It was an Alien grown from his Lung, so it might be something related to that, but other than that, it might be due to him being a cyborg now, and the Alien is less interested in humans with artificial components.
>>214637789>Why don’t the xenomorphs just kill Wendy?Because shes the xeno mommy>why did Nibs say she was pregnant?She was(is) batshit crazy, pregnancy is an easy way to justify to herself why her body felt weird.>You can’t just leave half the aliens in a cage the whole season tooDespite the title the show was meant to be about the whole droid "when is a machine not a machine" mumbo jumbo thought experiment first, aliens second so guess again.
>>214638127>is that a tea lady? I’m going insaaaane
>>214634950literally me right now but it's chronic pain causing me to check out.
>>214638345the point is that the earth is the alien
>>214638100They were only slimy in Resurrection right? I know they've always drooled but I swear they were never coated in KY jelly before that.
>>214635479all the alien scenes were good. The bad was cgi Ash and some unnecessary callbacks
>>214638450Damn, maybe humans were the real face rape monsters all along
>>214636106acid blood means the dino is fucked as soon as it bites/claws at it
>>214637305They have the androids jumping from the height of buildings, landing and immediately running off with no problem. They have T-1000 liquid metal arms that can form into whatever they need. They can rip apart a grown man with the flick of a finger. It's like they never even watched Alien where the best android couldn't even kill one frantic woman and was easily defeated by being hit with a fire extinguisher. Ash sure as fuck couldn't have defeated the xeno. Nor Bishop. But they'd just contrive it as making them weaker on purpose. That's the idiotic shit these prequel stories do now. Like making the xenos go from microscopic spore viruses to facehuggers
why wasnt romulus more popular?
>>214639549It's getting a sequel. That's pretty popular. But it's also just a cheap knockoff of Alien Isolation which did everything far better. Plus cramming it full of memberberries, references, and callbacks diminishes its rewatchability.
>>214637305they never care if the old audience will like it they treat it as built in + the more important part = attracting the young female quadrant>>214639031sure but >They have T-1000 liquid metal arms that can form into whatever they need.no they don't are you senilehe just extrudes the preinstalled hardwareas for the rest yea it's retarded I hate when the writers just stuff the full package of super engineering solutions into singular conceptsok we cracked the human-like robotswe have the perfect 1 to 1 motor functions all neatly packed into a perfect human formwe have the perfect power supplywe have the perfect AIwe have the perfect human like skin and we have perfect face mimics, emotions, hair, everything is just perfectoh but wait he is not only a perfect imitation he actually is 20 times faster and stronger without a compromise to its structural integritybut the rest of our technology doesn't use those solutions for some reason
>>214638127and alien 3 had a mainly British cast and was filmed partly in Britain.Since Ridley Scott himself is British, it might be appropriate to see it as a British film franchise (tho most of the directors after are yanks).Alien Earth is slop. High quality slop, but slop nonetheless. woke casting. Mary sue invincible protagonist girl boss who can ride alien dick.
>>214640398Dan O Bannon was American though
>>214639549cause it's dogshit
>>214631729>>214632308David didn't create shit. Xenomorphs are millions of years old you mentally ill sme faggot schizo
>>214640398>Since Ridley Scott himself is British, it might be appropriate to see it as a British film franchise (tho most of the directors after are yanks).I’d never really thought about this before.Ridley Scott is English (and directed three films, everyone else did one)James Cameron is CanadianDavid Fincher is AmericanJean Pierre Jeunet is FrenchPaul WS Anderson is EnglishThe Strause brothers are American Fede Alvarez is Uruguayan If we count the AvPs that’s one extra Brit and two extra Americans but it’s actually quite a diverse bunch
>>214640435When people talk about where a film is from it’s not generally hinging on the nationality of the multiple screenwriters
>>214640463>Xenomorphs are millions of years oldNTA but according to what? Certainly nothing in the films
>>214640463cope, seethe, and dilatehttps://youtu.be/fjEF8QCLyW0?si=Di24-U7-VYGPlyub
>>214640553Gordon Carroll, Walter Hill, David Giler, Dan O'Banon, Ron Shusett were all americans
>>214640720>wereWalter Hill is still alive btw
>>214640720And?
>>214640615Hermit says so in one of the later episodes of Alien:Earth
>>214638100All the slime helps mask flaws, the obviousness man-in-suit nature of it. They DO NOT want it to look good. That's why. They love to serve up pure slop and get ppl to watch it as a humiliation ritual, to get audiences more and more acclimatized to overall shitty entertainment, so that they can make it even worse over time, to make the humiliation ritual even more humiliating. They're laughing at everyone watching it.
>>214640775Noah Hawley and his current tv show of course being the great authorities of the famous film franchise
>>214640764>write the script>rewrite the script>produce the movieit's an important thing
>>214640775Literally has nothing to do with Prometheus/Covenant. Both directors have stated that repeatedly, retard.
>>214640964You could infer from Prometheus that they're old as balls. If they've seeded humanoid life for eons, then they've also culled a few with their goo. And goo tends to make xenomorphs with humanoids.The one that David ''creates'' would be the eventual xeno that we know in Alien, but in essence he's just combining recipes and not making things from scratch.
>>214640553>Jean Pierre Jeunetsuch a weird pick for an Alien movie, love that weird french actor he always casts though
>>214640905Yeah, but it doesn’t decide the nationality attributed to a movie’s production
>>214641072Pinon is really great. Such a unique face and presence
>>214631825because the suits are literal retards with high functioning psychopathythey don't understand things or people, just see things, and try to fit things into buckets they learned about during their business and marketing classes.
>>214640674Unless he had tome travel to deposit the biomechanical aliens for Ripley in the first two movies he hasn't created shot you mentally ill freak. Scott is talking about the creature in the movie not the xenomorphs as a whole you deranged piece of shit lacking listening comprehension. Also, to top it off, interciews are in no way canon, you try hard subhuman scum.
>>214632501What was even the point? It barely shares the frame at any point with any of the actors, and when it does, it's squatting in the dark. You never get a sense of how big it is outside Parker saying "That thing is HUGE!"
>>214632755The show seems to be implying that the xenomorph is a good boy who dindu nuffin, and it's our fault for never trying to talk to them. At least that's what cyberschizo girl seems to think.
>>214632862You were never supposed to see them in broad daylight. They lose so much of their scare/cool factor when you take them out of dark and hazy corridors.
>>214641343>outside Parker saying "That thing is HUGE!"They never expected the little chestburster critter to grow bigger, if any, than average adult human in so little window of time.
>>214633086That's so gay. I blame Dark Horse on the movies becoming so retarded.
>>214633171>if you didn’t eject from the franchise after Alien 3 you deserve all the shit you eyes can takeThough, I've got to say, that lump of shit is a goddamn masterpiece compared to everything we've gotten since.
>>214641413>You were never supposed to see them in broad daylight.Ridley made the Covenant one look decent enough in the day, though sadly it fell into the very dumb animalistic routine, a dumb trend established in Alien 3, and never suspended since. The original Alien was quite intelligent. They aren't fucking dogs, they aren't fucking velociraptors, they aren't fucking cheetahs. Stop the insanity.
>>214634080I never noticed the fact that you could see veins in the head dome. That's kind of a cool touch. It's like how when an insect/arachnid/crustacean molts, it needs some time for its exoskeleton to harden.
>>214636106Xenomorphs are basically velociraptors with an exoskeleton, scorpion tail, and acid for blood. A dinosaur wouldn't be able to do shit.
>>214635876>original good movies>moviesThere was only one good movie. Prometheus is objectively the second best Alien movie.
>>214641584>Xenomorphs are basically velociraptorsshut the fuck up
>>214631672The xeno was glorious in Alien Resurrection, and then you stupid little faggots hated it so you got dogshit god allegories, goo from a retarded boomer and a shit gay fassbender fanfic for you to obsess over. So you deserve what you get.See how that works nigger
>>214636701The show sucks so I hope they go full retard with Wendy and the Xenos vs everyone else.
>>214634080
Why do xenos have an evolutionary ingrained hostility toward giant claw monsters?
I love them
>>214631547The problem with people like OP is that they don't understand story. Aliens in its book and comic book form explores all kinds of shit. So for a real fan of the lore, a puppy Xenomorph is just another interpretation.
>>214641652pumpkinhead's looking rough
>>214641707yeah and the alien costume is looking a bit down too
>>214641395No, the show seems to be implying that Wendy is able to somewhat control the xenomorph. The xenomorph probably thinks she's the queen or something.It's still an indiscriminate killing machine.
why is/was alien earth and romulus getting rave reviews when both projects are irredeemably dogshit?
>>214631547Alien Covenant is the worst thing in the Alien franchise.
>>214641795All the reviews sites are completely botted and jeeted now. They're aren't going to spend tens of millions on advertising and just let online reviews be bad.
>>214639549The out of the gate reactions were good until the Critical Drinker types chimed in with "UMMM ACKSHUALLY, SOUTH PARK TOLD US THAT A FRANCHISE CALLING BACK TO ITSELF IS THE WORST THING EVER (EVEN THOUGH THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME), SO THIS MOVIE IS BAD". After getting the the bleak cobbled together mess that was Alien 3, the proto-Whedon slop that was Resurrection (though Winona Ryder is a goddess in that), shonen slop with AVP 1 and 2, and Prometheus and Covenant trying to be deep while being nowhere near as intelligent as it seemed to think it was, Romulus was refreshing in its simplicity. I wanted to see a xenomorph run around on a ship fucking people up, and that's precisely what I got. It's like Jaws or Halloween; it only kind of works on that one level, and gets stupid when you start throwing a bunch of extra lore and shit into it. It was only ever meant to be a 50s creature feature with a budget, but thanks to the comics, and Cameron shares some of the blame as well, they started trying to make it into the next Star Wars, and it got stupid. In that aspect, I can almost respect Alien 3 as an attempt to bring it back to basics after Aliens basically turned it into a kids brand, complete with toys and video games. The problem is that it did it in the messiest and most unsatisfying way possible, which seemed to stem almost entirely from the fact that they HAD to have Ripley in the plot for some reason, rather than letting her ride off into the proverbial sunset with Newt, Hicks, and Bishop at the end of Aliens, and letting new characters take over.
>>214641289>Also, to top it off, interciews are in no way canondavid says he created the perfect organism in the movie, deal with it
>>214631547HERRO RAGGY!
>>214641599I see we have a prequel hater here. Romulus is more your speed made for retarded zoomers like you.
>>214641795It wasn't THAT bad, I think the only part that's bad for sure is them re-hashing Ash with bad CGI, the rest is alright and really safe.
The most fitting ending would be her brother putting her down like a dog,
>>214641978This nigga's trying to pass off Damon Lindelof as some brilliant writer.
Is that the facebook frog? damn...
>>214642074>"WHAT DID YOU DO?!"Bitch, did you not just see her rip that guy's jaw off? Fuccboi brother should have laid down the law with her when she told him she didn't want to leave, and later when she made him go after the rest. He should have just said "Either I'm your brother, or you're one of them. Clearly, these two realities are not going to be able to coexist."
>>214641343it's not just about the size, you need to be seriously skinny to pull off the skeletal bodyframe of the xeno
>>214642155>Bitch, did you not just see her rip that guy's jaw off? What about it?
>>214641289>Unless he had tome travel to deposit the biomechanical aliens for Ripley in the first two moviesThe film after Covenant was to include the Engineers returning. They'd find the planet in Covenant devoid of life due to the genocide perpetrated by David. This is something Ridley Scott said in an interview: https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3443009/ridley-scott-says-engineers-will-back-next-alien-gets-made/"Xenomorph" is an all-encompassing term for alien lifeforms introduced in Aliens and XX121 is the species encountered in the original film. Why are there XX121 eggs on the derelict engineer ship on LV-426? The Engineers acquire them during the sequel to Covenant. We don't know how they do that, but it would've been interesting to see if the film got made. The disdain the Engineers had towards David in Prometheus would be nothing in comparison to their reaction when they confront David and find out he's experimenting on 2000 colonists to create a biomechanical, carbon-silicon hybrid abomination beyond anything they've seen before.
>>214633125>Man, I don't know..
>>214641624It's a well know fact that all of these designs are dicks and vaginas.
>>214642157That's fair.
>>214642457The Engineers would have been so much cooler if they had just looked like skinless humans, but greyscale. That said, if I had my way, we would have never seen them at all, just the shit that they left behind.
>>214631547>Be Wendy >capable of decoding alien speech>capable of manipulating electronic locks and monitors telepathically>Super strength due to synth body>tames Xenos using speech much like Crisp Rat training Raptors in Jurassic World Is she the the gr>>214632501eatest Mary Sue of all time?
>>214642582she's a robot so no
>>214642582>Super strength due to synth bodyexcept when the plot requires the character to not be super strong, like slightly and smee carrying arthur around
Marcy Sue
>>214642582>Super strength due to synth bodyI hate the crap. It's become the standard now and it's retarded. Neither Ash nor Bishop had super strength. They're not fucking terminators.
>>214642582I give the first Jurassic World a pass because the movie makes it a point to say that the raptors are still very much unpredictable wild animals, and that they only respond to Owen because he imprinted on them at birth, and has been with them their entire lives. Then even try to kill him in the pen.
>>214641875>david saidretard
>>214641643The claw!
>>214642304>quoting films that were never made as proofyou are functionally retarded
>>214642782>Neither Ash nor Bishop had super strength.They're experimental protoypes built for a different purpose by an entirely different company. That's like being mad that a Caterpillar bulldozer and a Toyota Corolla aren't the same thing.
>>214642782>Neither Ash nor Bishop had super strength. They're not fucking terminators.desu given the track record of synthetics in all the prequels it makes sense these WY models arent equipped with tard strength
Why didn’t they ever bother putting a strength limiter on their synth body?
>>214642304DO THE ENGINEERS HAVE TIME TRAVEL YOU PIECE OF SHIT? THE ENGINEER SHIP WAS ANCIENT, FOSSILISED, THE EGGS HAVE BEEN THERE THOUSANDS OF YEARS.>but we don't know how fast engineer ships fossilizeA hyper advanced species with biomech tech wouldn't design their ships to decompose in a month you fucking retard. Plus, the Engineer ships in Prometheus (thousands of years) and Covenant (a decade) had been there without any such signs. KILL YOURSELF YOU AUTISTIC FANFICTION PUSHING MENTALLY ILL RETARD.
>>214636814
>>214631674Until the end when it's outside the airlock
>>214634080where the fuck is geiger aesthetics in alien earth???
>>214642782neither ash nor bishop are top secret state of the art 6 billion dollar projects
>>214642751From the looks of it only the female synths were given tard strenght
Ewww brightly lid ayylium
>>214642155>did you not just see her rip that guy's jaw off?The retard pacifist brother should realize by now that they're going to have to fight for their freedom. Even if they manage to escape the island Prodigy is never going to stop hunting them.
>>214642828I quoted Scott on his plans for the film and pretty clearly separated my own speculation from it. If anyone's a retard here, it's you.
>>214643149My ultimate point is that she was clearly unstable, and shouldn't have come along to start with. He should have given Wendy the ultimatum that it's either her and him going alone, or him leaving by himself. He can barely tard-wrangle one.
>>214643095motherfucker how far we done fell
>>214642917The Engineer ship in Prometheus was docked in a hangar bay. It was fully sealed and had a breathable atmosphere.The Engineer ship in Covenant had crash landed and it was full of water leaks, vegetation and dirt.The Engineer ship in Alien (1979) had also crash landed, exposing it to the elements for at least a decade.Lay off the adderall and get some sleep. Raging like that is embarrassing.
Wendy turning into a villain is the only way to redeem this mess.
>>214643299The season ends with brother saying "What have I done?" Mark my words.
>>214643291You pathetic mentally ill degenerate - you cannot use fanfiction as proof for your schizo theory that David created the xenos. There is NO PROOF OF ANY KIND that Engineer ships fossilize faster than normal. On the contrary, The Prometheus and Covenant ships disprove that 100%. In Prometheus the ship was in a hangar that was POWERED DOWN, there were no maintenance systems active until David reactivated everything. In Covennat the ship was exposed to the elements for a decade without any fossilisation. THIS DIRECTLY DISPROVES YOUR FANFICTION ABOUT A FASTER DECAY RATE YOU RETARDED MONKEY. The Engineer ship in Alien and Aliens is thousands of years old, it's fossilised. It is ultimate proof that the biomechanical xenomorphs existed BEFORE David was even made unless hebhas time travel.YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL, SEEK HELP.
>>214643418Tell me you've never seen an irl vagina without telling me that you've never seen an irl vagina.
>>214643480David didn't create the xenomorphs. Inacceot your concession :^)
>>214643418take your meds tranny, you are unhinged
>>214643291NTA, but if both ships in Alien and Covenant were exposed for a decade and there was no fossilization in Covenant you have disproved your own theory.
>>214634080>the way the back tubes go 'bloop'Ew
>>214643499I'm not even the guy you're sperging at, and I really don't even care about whatever the argument is, I'm just feeling extreme secondhand embarrassment for you. Go take a shower.
>>214643538>t. troon
>>214643418>In Prometheus the ship was in a hangar that was POWERED DOWNYet it had a breathable atmosphere, meaning a climate control system at minimum was active all that time.>In Covennat the ship was exposed to the elements for a decade without any fossilisation>The Engineer ship in Alien and Aliens is thousands of years old, it's fossilisedThe ship itself isn't "fossilized" in Alien. The dead Engineer however is.
>>214643095Looks like old dog poop that’s turning white
>>214643586Oh so this is your new cope? Engineers fossilise faster? HAHAHAHAH You calimed it was the ship during the last 20 times you tried to peddle your fanfiction. Just accept that you are wrong and your fan theory has no merit.
>ship in Alien wasn't thousands of years oldThere are people who unironically believe this? Specially because they think David CREATED the Xeno instead of reverse engineering it?What the fuck
>>214643586yeah I think you lost (despite the other guy posting like an unhinged person kek)
>>214643149the brother was never going to leave that island alive and you thinking he has any continuing part in this tv show makes you as naive as him
>>214642917>>214643291the fuck you two arguing about.prometheus and covenant lost their legitimacy for being ultimately gorillion times more retarded than plausible. it might be canon, but its incoherent and stupid, even using zero logic as its plot tool.it is canon, but not canon canon. everything you see there is just for looks, not a deeper story.
>>214643674You keep saying the ship fossilizes, not me. I'm stating the facts about the state of each Engineer ship in each film and how it affects the state of whatever organic things are inside.
>>214643704It's 1 (one) genuinely mentally ill guy that does it. He used to post his bullshit straight up, but got pushback and now does it more subtly. He makes an Alien thread and then samefags a couple posts where he innocuously insert his schizo theory like he did here >>214631729>>214632308He is genuinely mentally ill I'm not joking.
>>214643870That was your theory in the kast 20 threads you fucking retard. You can't bakctrack that after getting BTFO.Anyway, unless you have proof (you don't) that Engineer bodies fossilise faster than normal David still needs a time travel machine to put the Alien ship and eggs in place.
>>214643885It's quite fascinating how every fanbase seems to have one lunatic who's convinced everyone who doesn't agree with his ideas is some organized samefagging mastermind. Some sort of projection, I assume. I'm neither of the people you quoted.
>>214635479And it's literally just a ripoff of Species. There isn't a single original idea in Romulus. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum, Earth has original ideas but terrible execution. Cursed franchise
>>214631679>Ergo, expect more pet xeno hijinks & rewriting the xenos as misunderstood good guys in the near future.There's a market for itYou telling me you wouldn't want a couple pet xenos you could train like attack dogs?Like we have 20 alien movies but not one where there is a 3rd and greater threat and the Hero and Xeno look at each other, do the Dutch bicep clasp with each other and both work together to take down the big bad other xeno?You telling me you wouldn't watch that kino?>Daaaaad can I go fishing with uncle xeno this weekend???
This is the biggest drop off in quality I've ever seen.
>>214643704>they think David CREATED the Xenoridley scott has confirmed he did and so have the people who worked on the movie
>>214643946>That was your theory in the kast 20 threads you fucking retard. You can't bakctrack that after getting BTFO.I'm not whoever you're talking about, and you're probably talking about multiple people.>Anyway, unless you have proof (you don't) that Engineer bodies fossilise faster than normal David still needs a time travel machine to put the Alien ship and eggs in place.It might be good to clarify here that fossilization doesn't happen to a corpse in open air. Physically impossible. The Engineer corpse in Alien is desiccated. The same thing would happen to a human corpse in the same time frame. The character who called if fossilized was ignorant. However, even if we stuck to referring to it as fossilized, the phenomenon itself witnessed in Alien would still occur in a decade or so.
>>214644103in fact, how is this not the only thing that makes sense in the lore? They were designed as a weapon, that means that they should have a mechanism to be trained and controlled. Kind of insane that so many ppl are unable to detach from their childhood fanboying and see this objectively.
>>214631547I can see the human skull underneath.Neat.
>>214638127>which Cameron apparently hatedWhy? Alien was what my mother watched, it was cool sci-fi horror for her generation, aliens is what got all the young millennials and last of X on boardSpace MarinesGun battles"Marines, we are leaving!!!"It had all the kino young lads loved to see and spaceships and "oh you got to crawl through zis pipe for a mile to set up rescue signal" and the final battle being a mother in a forklift mecha vs bitch mother queen over a small childThrills? CheckTerror? CheckInsanely good soundtrack? CheckRipley's rescue scene in the APC had me on the edge of my seat the first time I watched it!Aliens is what made the entire thing franchisable.
>>214640775And how would he know anything about the Alien, other than it tried to kill him?A:E is so full of retarded shit like this.
>>214642862This, I don't want what was already a twitchy model with homicidal tendencies strong enough to rip me in half
>>214643095Why is his neck so thick?
>>214637789Nibs was raped as a kid and the eye attack re-opened those memories so she thought she had a baby.
Oh shit, critical drinker just destroyed our showwhat's our response?
>>214644810>>214643095>>214643278>>214643664>rule number 1: never show the xenomorph in daylightIt's a really fucking simple rule. Maybe the only rule. Ignoring the behaviour - they even went further and beyond and we could take an uncomfortably long 360degree look at it.
Where did they get the bamboo raft?
>>214645116Ridley did it in Covenant and it looked good, the show just sucks.
>>214644467he hated filming in the UK, he likes his movie
>>214645148>Ridley did it in Covenant and it looked goodOBJECTION!
you guys remember when xenos used to creepily knock their teeth together?
>>214631729>It also had an accelerated growth cycle.dont act like that fucking mattressgrowth cycle is incredibly inconsistent.worst offender is romolus with its 60s instant noodle monster but atleast that one was an alien movie.lets be honest, growth cycle is extremely inconsistent and makes zero sense and best case scenario it is related to runtime limitations.
*slup*
if xenomorph is not friend, why friend shaped?
>>214645653this one didn't have the chestburster phase at all though, it came out with developed limbs
>>214645802>Excuse me Sir, Your race mixing card has expired!
>>214645961ok fine, chestburger or not you still cant deny, growth cycle is whatever they feel like. pointless to talk about it, differs in every movie and the rules are often bent during the same movie. some comics might have a long talk about it but that is no canon, just filler.
>>214643278the alien 4 mixed baby kinda looks like that, just more fetal alcohol syndrome with a basement dweller bitch tits xeno body.
Dude... PETER PAN.Morrow has a cyborg arm... CAPTAIN HOOK!Whoa...What character will T. Ocellus play?
>>214646083>just fillerAlien Earth in a nutshell.
>>214636701Women protagonists aren't allowed to be evil (or at least morally questionable) in current year.
>>214646385everyone is free to ignore anything outside of 1-4. I am not a strict person.
>>214645854Xenomorph, good boy! didn't do nothing wrong.
>>214643278The first design is still by far the best. Perfection cannot be improved upon.nuAlien is a wannabe dinosaur monster.
>>214646591mein niggeronly 1-4 are canon
>>214643299well good because thats the obvious trajectory
>>214646495we are far from peak wokeness and peak wokeness celebrated erratic and psychotic female protagonist behaviour, always justifying their immorality. evil wendy timeline pretty much fits in the picture for a blue haired dei writer. evil wendy might be the only way to make this shit show somewhat interesting. she unleashed a xeno on a bunch of random people in the lab. her moral compass is already out of order. no reason to make her evil behaviour gender based either, she got no vagene, these robots are clearly made assexual.
I CAN HAZ CHESTBURSTER XD :3
>>214642988his work is like an erotic nightmare and while i find it strangely compelling he is too uncomfortable for most people.
>>214638127>>214645242Like anon said, Cameron did not hate Aliens, he disliked filming with the studio crew because he couldn't slavedrive them 24hrs per day, they had an union and went home after 8 hours of work each day. He bitches and moans about it on the director's commentary.
>>214646988the long skull is necessary in order to fit my huge engineer cock
>>214647215What people always neglect about Giger's work is that most of those surfaces are clearly intended to be iron. Rough, factory iron. And then the more gentle insectoid shapes, sacs etc. And oftentimes it's explicitly pornographic, as is the Alien design itself. First movie somewhat did it justice. In the second one, you already have retarded, useless American designs like enlarging the shape and adding shit to the side to make a Queen etc.
>>214642988Noah Hawley knows better, chud.>For me the ribcage always bothered me because it feels very much like a human ribcage. I went with more of a crustacean kind of feel in places. It’s more of a cockroach brown than a black. I do find that people try to make things scarier by making their teeth sharper. I actually find the flatter teeth to be more worrisome. That looks like it would hurt.
>>214645802>this is xenomorph country!
>>214641978Nope. Romulus is shit too so you should love it. This series is reduced to retarded directors takes and member-berries at this point and you love it because you're a shit eating faggot.Fifteen years ago I would have said Alien 3 and R are not that great but now... they are kino in comparison to this dogshit.
>>214647330smart. we all know the alien is an ALIEN not a human, so why would it look like a human. and why would it be black? black people are actually brown in real life, so it makes more sense to make it brown.
>>214631679>rewriting the xenos as misunderstood good guysgod I hope they really do this. They might be crazy enough too. what a world.
>>214647308>And oftentimes it's explicitly pornographic, as is the Alien design itself.indeeddeath alone is not reason enough to fear the alien. it is the seduction, the rape, and the impregnation
>>214647308>useless American designs like enlarging the shape and adding shit to the side to make a Queen etc.It's worth noting that while Giger had no direct involvement with the Queen's design, he gave it his compliments
>>214647308The queen should've looked like this.
>>214647595and received a check for it
>>214647706chapped dick sucking lips?i can dig it
Alien fans might not like it but this is where the series and xeno designs peaked
>>214647824what were the engineers or david thinking
>>214647768The aliens in 2 are way better. Some suits look a bit tacky but that's because they had to make like 40 of the things for yeeted action shots and explode them and whatever. The aliens in 2 actually feel more alien even if they are more insect like. The alien in the original alien is actually a bit of a memer, he screams when he gives Dallas a hug in the vents, he does weird sexy dance movements when interacting with lambert and then rapes her (who would rape a tranny? is it because the alien is black?) and he has a habitual need to go to sleep in sus places where his tail is a chain and his head is a pipe. Real asshole.
>>214647849well i know what i am thinking, can the alien avoid using her teeth while she is sucking
>>214647885alien is shit, aliens is where its at
>>214647833>when the new shitslop makes the old shit sequels look like peak cinematography not the avp sequel though
Trying way too hard
>>214647916I like both but hating on Aliens is very similar to hating on Terminator 2 as a sequel. Just why, it's more of what you want bigger and better.
>>214647959you might think its bait because you're low IQ and easily impressed but its a fact that xeno design, the world and the setting as a whole peaked in aliens and then avp it even has the best games, classic 2000 and 2 and even 2010 are all so good, I love playing as a xeno in the games
>>214632862who the fuck green lit this
>>214647833They used the same xenomorph costumes as in Resurrection, but repainted. Just an interesting fact.
>>214648084i understand back thenbut in 2025 genuinely question why not do cgi aliens? theres no way cgi isn't good enough to pull off the xeno scenes and make it look convincing and spooky whats the reason
>>214648014>you might think its bait because you're low IQ and easily impressedAre you babbling that it's "low IQ" not to like Aliens as much as Alien? Are you 18? fuck off retard.
>>214647833No, the aliens look too fleshy and not biomechanical enough.
>>214648014>you're low IQ and easily impressed>that xeno design, the world and the setting as a whole peaked in aliens and then avpPick one, you fucking macaque
>>214648154BEING FLESHY IS THEIR WHOLE THING, what?? they are bugs that splatter into acid when pulse rifled and you get that exoskeleton crunchbtw the zero g scene in romulus was kinda awesome >>214648149it is low IQ, aliens is the superior flick, most people that are way into the OG alien haven't watched it in 15 years and are just pretending to like it, I rewatched all the movies a few months ago
>>214631547Where did this type of Alien come from?(I forgot but I can't remember this type was coming from any of the dead humans)
>>214647885Naturally the amerimutt does not know that Lambert was added as a tranny in a still in the 90s cut that did not exist when the movie was filmedAmerica is literally 1984, lol
>>214648245The first one comes from the Christian guy who killed David's neomorph friend and the second one came from someone on board the colony ship I guess
>>214648439why is it fucking green
>>214631729>That was a prototype precursor referred to as the "Praetomorph" in official lorethis is so gaytarded.
Alien was never good.
>>214648476this but aliens
It’s been years since Giger has passed and still no one has managed to improve upon his designs or better yet, come up with something original to rival the Alien. He was truly one of a kind. I hope he is living out his wildest desires in a perverted biomechanical paradise.
serious answers only:will we ever see, uhm how to say it, authentic xenomorph insemination? like im talking about sexually transmitted xenomorphs. will it happen aaand theoretically how long one would have to wait?
>>214631547Ridley really fucked up with Prometheus and Covenant. Sure, Alien 3 and 4 were already bad enough but it just hits different when it´s the authors shitting the bed. Like how Cameron is pro AI now after making a movie warning us about the dangers it would pose. Same thing here. Alien is about dealing with the unknown. About the things that lurk in the dark. Why for the love of god would you throw such an universal truth away for the sake of something so bland as an AI designed biological weapon which purpose is to extinguish humanity. Not only is that boring but it´s self centered and entitled as fuck.So fucking reductive to make everything revolve around humanity when there is a whole universe out there. Not only that, he even explained and fully showed the monster, which essentially killed it. Once understood the xenos became just another creature. Dangerous yes, but scary no longer. I understand Ridley movies have always been about spirituality and humanity and it makes sense in that way. I also understand he probably thinks is time to give answers rather than ask questions but these answers are just... He seems to have grown older but not particularly wiser.
>>214648439>This makes no senseHow did it grow so big so fast?Why did the other types of Aluens not turn into this type?
Alien, Terminator and Predator are all such utter dogshit. Gen Xer boomoids have the worst taste imaginable.
>>214648455The one in Covenant isn't green.
I want the AvPgalaxy admiggers to quit playing the "tee hee I know something you don't know" game and either shut up or post an article about all the differences in the different drafts (supposedly the first version was set in 2185 and characters were talking about how awesome and genius Peter Weyland was)
>>214648455>why is it fucking greenhe is angry
>>214648474XX121 at least makes sense as an internal name but apparently xenomorph refers to literally any alien in the alien world
>>214648634also Yutani was a tranny at some point, and one of the kids became one with their hybrid synth body.
Why the Aliens head look like a big benis
>>214645653Aliens did the growth cycle the best. Just don't bother showing it and skip ahead after the outbreak. It can take days to get enough xenos and weeks to build up the hive. Alien Isolation did it just as excellently. All the other movies dropped the ball on it hard.
What if you plugged up all its back pipes at once?
>>214648669>xenomorph refers to literally any alien in the alien worldit just means "strange shape" or "foreign shape", so yeah, any non-terrestrial life would be a xenomorph. same reason all aliens in 40k are xenos to the Imperium.
>>214648544Neither could he. It's not like everything he put out was pure gold. They laughed him out of the office for his ideas for Alien 3
The writing is retarded on purpose, right? Surely no one above the age of 16 would write something so awful and illogical, that's almost insulting to one's intelligence
>>214648678It lures in all the white girls to get impregnated. Gets them all hot and bothered.
>>214648883>They laughed him out of the office for his ideas for Alien 3I've seen this posted before but never the source. I don't think Giger even went to any office, they were supposed to visit him but couldn't.
>>214648835Suffer not the xenomorph to live!
>>214648826What if I put my dick in one of them and came inside it
>>214648826It would have quite the embarrassing fart
you fools don't get it, every single thing so far has been orchestrated by boy genius, its all part of his plan to have lax security etc etc its obviously telegraphed that he planned it all out and the white hair android is his right hand man
>>214649014He's being mind altered by ocellus and his IQ is being suppressed by her so he's dumb
>>214649051her?
>>214648805old school is best. they had to hide for longer periods of time to grow, usually somewhere in the hot and humid darkness, usually around vents and lots of steam, there the xenos can just bath in their own bodily fluids in flirteous poses without being bothered.
how did the space jokey get infected anyway? He can't move out of the chair
>>214648883As far as I know the studio only really vetoed the female lips and make-out/death scene. The base idea of a four-legged Alien birthed from a bovine carcass is still there. It’s not his fault that the studio didn’t want to commit to something different and put in the effort to make it work. It’s honestly a miracle that a mind like Giger’s was able to collaborate with a motion picture studio in the first place so I’m happy for that at least.
>>214647885>lambert is a tranny wtf? Since when?
>>214649547Since they let that hack Cameron make the sequel.
>>214649077T. Ocellus is female
>>214648141fuck off nigger
>>214648669well duh just like alien refers to any alienit's just latin
>>214649865retard you can't tell me a guy in a aliexpress suit looks better than 2025 cgi kys
>>214649949I can tell your mom fucked a nigger with the way you handle yourself around logic
>>214649989he's right though
>>214649267he asked david (disguised as a butler) to bring him breakfast to his chairdavid smirked, went away for a moment and wheeled in a cart with a plate on it with a conspicuously large metal lid on topdavid left the room and the space jockey opened the lid to uncover a strangely large and meaty egg but hes a big guy and hes hungryleaked script from ripley scott
>>214650195that david, what a rascal
>>214647215>he will never see this aesthetic in moviesConvenant was such a missed opportunity
>>214647464>Fifteen years ago I would have said Alien 3 and R are not that great but now... they are kino in comparison to this dogshit.No they were always great. And I was there back in the day and knew of the backlash.
WE RIDE TONIGHT!WHAAAAAT IIIIVEEEE DDOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEE
>>214650640based
>>214648154>not biomechanical enough.What does this mean really
>>214631547should i drop this 7 episodes in
romulus is better than resurrection
>>214650934why would youtheres nothing else to watch
>>214650956fuck off pede alvarez, you're off the casehand in your onions and dildoand your other dildo
>>214650957im rewatching sopranos
>>214644467>Why? Because Aliens turned the franchise into a fun action horror direction and he was all about the atmospheric slow burn suspense type horror. It was hard for them to get approval for the first film because all the executives wanted the alien to be in more scenes and have more action. He finally did get his way which is good, but to see them ride on the coattails of his success and make the type of alien film they wanted to make in the first place and then get good reviews with it too was probably mildly annoying. Alien going into the Aliens direction was mildly controversial and Its been 40 fucking years and you still have die hard alien fans who throw a hissy fit when a piece of Alien media isnt enough like the first film.
>>214649947That's not duh. Retards think it's the actual name of the alien.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcAzFXHHxZUIt is out. Fresh out of the oven.He stole my opinions once again, but with more swearing and generally more whiny.But he is right.I found my peace, I am happy when a new media is not utter shit. objectively a weak 5 maybe 6/10? Fantastic. Thats the new 8-9.
>>214651269xenomorph literally means alien
>>214651269that's a duh
>>214650552You mean Aliens. Giger died before Covenant was made.
>>214651336No, it's not.
I think im getting insane. The twist that wendy, her bother and the kids are xenomorphs in robot bodies is extremely obvious since episode 2 or 3 but the whole fucking internet pretends to not see it. This is the most obvious twist of all times. No one acts like kids in robots but like aliens in robots. HOW IS NO ONE SEEING THIS. JUST LOOK AT THE STUPID FACES. The whole rotten l*eddit is full of "teachers" saying how those children act just like their children. WTF. Is everything a bot now? Are we even human anymore? Is there any living real human left in the internet? IS this the post AI rapture timeline already?Will the whole internet have surprise pikachu face when wendy is a xenomorph next week? WHAT A TWIST. joe hermit JOE HERMIT. WHAT A TWIST. Will everyone applaud the actress for her stunning portrait of a xenomorph shackled in a human body? (The only good thing about this piece of shit) Will the eye go into the billionaire? ? ?Such a good idea going to shit.