What was the morale of the story? I liked the rape scene and thought that was kino. But other than that it was meh. Any other movies with rape kino?
>>214651374smoke opium erryday
on a scene-by-scene basis, this is very goodthe only way it's disappointing is that it seems like it's building to something, and it doesn'tthat clouds my thinking on the movie, and distracts me from how much I liked each individual part
Yep, OUATIA kinda sucks. Off the top of my head, rape kino includes Deliverance, Straw Dogs and Night Train Murders.
>>214651442Yeah I mostly really enjoyed the 1800”s aesthetic. Similar to the 13th floor as far as period pieces go. But the director also did Ben hur so it should be no surprise. Over all I enjoyed Ben hur more
>>214651442It's weird that they build to this "robbery" that was the moment everything went bad but they never show it.The version I saw was like 3hrs and something but I heard that there was a longer director's cut that maybe has it. It's a weird movie because the movie itself doesn't feel too long, but the narrative itself feels too long for the movie. Like there are too many plot points for the movie itself. If feels like it needed a longer running time.
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>>214651691I felt the same when I watched casino. Because I was on a James woods binge. The story line kinda just seems to go nowhere.
>>214651374>What was the morale of the story?this:>>214651442>the only way it's disappointing is that it seems like it's building to something, and it doesn'tit's kind of a morality piece about how you shouldn't waste your life
>>214651374idk, i get the idea of portraying gangsters as the scum they are but there's a limit to how unlikeable a movie character can be and i have a feeling that leone wanted the audience to feel for the dude when he was all sad about his friends in his old age.
>>214651894A butt double unfortunately.
Pastries can buy you a piece of ass.
>>214651374The point is that you live with your choices forever. Everything in the future was just an opium dream from a man with regrets.
>>214651374>I liked the rake sceneWhich one, there was like 3 of them?
Anyone think Leone was mad at Hollywood Jews for The Godfather making Italians look bad so he made this to shit on Jews? Is there any historical basis for that theory?
>>214652370The one where they were in the car. And the dumb whore said she was going to leave him and become an actor. It was 100% justified and I bet she liked it to.
>>214651374>>214651442>>214652214I think it was made so visually beautiful to contrast the character and stories even more, Leone commenting on the romanticization of criminality and violence in film. Kind of reminds me of Heaven's Gate in some ways, or McCabe & Mrs. Miller. Anti-Western (or gangster) films. It's interesting to see a film that gives you no character to sympathize with. Also read it as the first half of the movie was Noodles remembering the past with a nostalgic haze but the truth and ugliness of his life is still the story. Which is kind of funny in some way, like this guy has these beautiful minds' eye memories of his life but it's raping women and committing crime and the awful people he associated with. Anyway, visually beautiful movie but an ugly awful story about terrible people. Which, again, was likely point.
>>214652641it makes more sense when I think about it like that. the opening of the movie especially really drives home that aspect.
>>214652641it's commendable that Leone doesn't glorify or shy away from the nastiness of gangsters and is bold enough to make his protagonist a complete piece of shit, but there's the duality that he's impossible to like and root for. if Noodles just tried to apologize to the girl when they met again it would've shown some growth, but you could argue that it would be out of character. movie itself was quite gripping and time flew by, never really bored me. btw, was Max' plan from the beginning for his gf to convince Noodles to rat them out before the final bootleg?
>>214651374idk about morale, but it drew up the themes of regret and nostalgia
>>214651374Incredible film, and surprisingly redpilled too since it shows jews as absolutely despicable.
>>214653467>was Max' plan from the beginning for his gf to convince Noodles to rat them out before the final bootleg?Yeh i think so, she tells em that in when he meets her in the mental asylum or wherever she's staying.
James Hayden and William Forsythe were underutilized
>>214651374I gotta stay high-igh-igh-igh, igh-igh, igh-igh, igh'Til I die-ie-ie-ie, ie-ie, ie-ie, ie
>rape scene with background music so its poeticyeah next time watch deliverance and have music while the hillibilly fucks the fat guy
>>214651691>Like there are too many plot points for the movie itself. If feels like it needed a longer running time.The original cut was 6 hours or so, there's a screenplay floating around the internet
A lot of you are mentally retarded and probably didn't understand the film so I'll assist you by acting as your brain. Noodles loved his friend (can't remember the names haven't seen it in a couple years),he's the only person he ever really loved, not in a fag way but genuine affection and friendship kind of way, anyways the movie starts with him having killed his friend by tipping off the cops to what he was doing, which was supposed to end in him getting arrested but since his friend was crazy, it became a shootout. That's why we see Noodles in the opium den, he can't cope with what he didThen we witness the past, which is true. He's a rapist, he's a bad guy, he's reliving his life in that opium den. What we see after is his imagination, what he'd expect to go differently, a coping mechanism for his inability to live with what he did. His friend is alive, somehow, the girl he loved and raped forgives him and actually in a sense betrayed him, his friend betrayed him too, but that's ok, he loves his friend and when given the chance for a Leone style shootout, he chooses to be the bigger man and walks away, out the secret compartment of the friends mansion, to witness a confluence of timelines, vehicles from different eras, the Chinese buildings in the background, the opium den. Flash to him smiling in the den. The present of the film is 2 minutes, it's those people coming to kill him and he'll succeed, everything else was recollection and fantasy. Genius movie. Shame when retards try watching it
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>>214653614All movies shoot extra shit then cut it down. There's zero plot holes. Just people not understanding it
>>214654149NTA but the 6 hours was the "cut down" versionif I'm not mistaken they shot 35 hours of footage
>>214651374Jews will be Jews.
>>214653770>it was a le hecking opium dreambrainlet take
>>214654575Leone confirms it retard
>>214652246Prove it and provide the true owner of the butt
>>214652438the movie didn't paint Jews in a bad light as a whole though? There were jewish mobsters and that's what the movie was about.
>>214652476it was fucking stupid because you throw away any chance of being with her in the future becasue of that. Also shows you don't care about her in the first place so overall the scene is unrealistic.
>>214653770>Shame when retards try watching itit's a shame when a directer makes a boring 4-hour movie and expects people to sit through it fully engaged.
Can someone help me find this movie? I don't remember the name just this scene. It was probably made 80-90s.>bank robbery scene>one of the bank robbers notices a female clerk>she's wearing a white dress>takes her to a back room and fucks her>keeps saying his name is Sam/Samuel
>>214654831>>214654831Anaconda 2: Bigger Snake
>>214654831Stroker Ace
