I thought I'd have a wife and kids by 30. I'm 36 and alone.

>>214680944
What are you doing to change that?

I'm too afraid of marriage just because I don't want to lose half my wealth and pension if I get divorced and pay child support for over a decade.

I don't see the reward as outweighing the risk

>>214680952
Nothing. I'm terrified of talking to women.

By age 30 you know how to pretend to be a normie at least enough to hold down a job. That's all you need to get a wife too. Just swipe for a couple years.

>>214680997
Fair enough, but cold approach doesn't work anyway unless you're a giga Chad or you get lucky enough that the girl thinks you're cute.
Warm approach. Go to social settings, make friends. Ask friends about girls and get them to introduce you.

>>214681028
Been swiping since I hit 30. Am 33. Am still single. I have not made it past 1 date for the last 3 years

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>>214680913
You turned me down.
Now the eggs are running out in your carton, like the sands of time.
>I could have fixed her

>>214681031
you can't negotiate attraction anon thats rape
if women liked me they would make it easy like they do for other guys

>>214681028
fake acts get fake rewards

>>214681054
I haven't been on a date since 2021, and that 1 date was terrible - she talked about her ex bf the entire hour. I've been rejected a couple dozen times since then. I refuse to use dating apps, I realize I might be shooting myself in the foot by choosing not to but they just seem gross to me. I don't care about transient sexual encounters I just want a normie romantic relationship. Normie for 25 + years ago ig...

>>214681028
lol being this naive must be blissful.
>just hold down a job!
>just swipe for a couple years
women don't care about stability - at least the women that aren't 35 and have had their "fun"
They want to get smashed by chad and tyrone and go to their girlboss job.

The first woman that could stand how fucking weird and annoying I am I latched on like a leach and married

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>>214681411
posts like that remind me of the robot from elysium that just spits out pills and tells people to have a nice day
its over
following what your boomer parents did doesnt work anymore
the world is way too fake now

>>214681456
It's not the world. It's women specifically are awful.

>>214681378
>I realize I might be shooting myself in the foot by choosing not to
You honest to God aren't.
You're better off cold approaching girls off the street than you are on dating sites. That's how much the odds are stacked against you on there.

>>214681545
yeah but women are just soulless robots who do what they are told is the thing
thats why i am switching to men
women literally crave rape and im a good person and i dont want to rape them but they get mad at me for "not making them like me" which to me is manipulation and rape

>>214681568
yeah but i don't want random women on the street to think they are entitled to that
im just gonna fuck hookers because at least thats not rigged

>>214681545
Women aren't culpable for their actions. At least, in the natural order of things they aren't. Now they are because of jew fag politics waging wars between sexes.

>>214680913
She looks like female Tom Cruise

>>214680952
Being racist on the internet. :)

>>214681701
Tom Cruise is a female Anna Kendrick.

>>214680913

When I was 16 I thought I’d be dead by now.

>>214680913
I married at 35

>>214680913
When I was 16 my kid was 2 years old

same. but she never did or showed me anything for me to be confident about for a long term thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QeUcfqkUzc

When I was 16 I thought I was gong to be forever alone and I was right.

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>>214681701
Annakins no skywalker

>>214682738
what did he mean by this

>>214682658
Holy based

>>214682738
is she really on a private jet or is it one of those staged things?

>>214681067
Wikipedia quotes her as saying "motherhood isn't for me".

>>214680913
I never really had a plan for when I wanted to hit milestones in my life, but I definitely have wanted to be a father for a good few years now.
Finding the right partner to share that life with is the difficult part.

>>214680944
I always said I would like to have my first kid by 30. and it randomly happened. and it didnt come out brown !!!

>>214680913
When I was 15 I thought future me would wise up, drop the mental issues and become somewhat successful and normal. We all know how it went.

>>214683864
you let them convince you there was something wrong with you
sad

>>214683976
there was no need for convincing, I was off from the start. At least I'm not gay

>>214685134
if you're not gay you're not off

>>214680952
Not him, but absolutely nothing. I don't care anymore.

>>214680913
to save this thread from being completely filled by depressed anons I thought id add Im 38, married and 3 kids.

>>214685219
How'd ya do it anon?

>>214680913
I wanna have a wife and kids but I'm gay and I recoil whenever a woman touches me.

Opposite to me, I was shut in loser and thought I'll die forever alone, married now, two kids. Wife woke me during night and gave me a bj, can't complain.

>>214685219
Time to bring it back to base: I'm 34 and only had sex once. I will die alone on this stupid rock.

>>214680913
Yeah, it is what it is. I know for a fact that at least 3 women in my life (probably actually 5, but cant be certain of the other 2) only stay in touch with me as a fallback option if they get no good offers by their mid 30s, which I guess is kinda flattering to be seen as good marriage material, but also gross and hollow.

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>>214685219
I don't want to support the faggots who blame women for being losers, but there certainly is an issue with women, too.
The number of childless single women has increased beyond a healthy point since social media. Or women who have stable partners, but don't start a family. Takes two to tango, but usually the women are the main showstopper.

Then we get to the point of 30 somethings trying to fix what would have happens naturally in their 20s before. But there is little social context for these people to date now, other than apps, and apps are terrible.

>>214681545
Women are the point of contact between Us and The World.
Women are worldly materialistic creatures. They are the highest order beings of the world.
Men are are ethereal and transcendent. Women are most happy to scuttle around urban hives.
Men are most happy when on a solitary mountain top reaching into the aurora borealis.

>>214686448
>the faggots who blame women for being losers
nobody does that
stop acting like theres a policeman that will call you an incel if you criticize women ffs

>>214686699
Fuck off. My post literally criticizes women.

>>214680997
Have you tried not being a pussy?

>>214686894
dont validate bullshit

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>>214680913
I'm 33, and I realized sometime in my 20s that I'd never find love or even have a fling. My sister tells me about her female friends and all their issues with their men and says I give them way too much credit in not wanting a man with so many issues but I just can't get out of my head about what a shit person I am. No job, no prospects, never had sex or kissed a girl. Hell on top of that I'm a schizo with a stutter and speech impediment that makes me sound retarded. Why did God make me like this bros?

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I don't want to have to live together with a loyalist spy for the macrosociety who takes my cum DNA in order to produce more slaves for the regime that get sent for public schooling against my wishes.

>friend is trying to set me up with a friend of gf's that has some things in common with me
how do i not fuck this up

>>214687390
Open with total transparency that your friend is trying to get you laid by introducing her to you. If it works it works, if it doesn't there was never any chance anyway.

>>214687271
Get a hooker that does gfe and pay for a full night.
After you're done fucking, cuddle, and fall asleep holding each other.
It's the best feeling I've ever felt and even though I knew it wasn't real, it still gave me confidence and I felt great for a few months after it happened.

when i was 16 i thought it was a matter of time before i had my first kiss, gf, sex. 31 now and had none of them. thankfully i largely stopped caring about it, unthankfully its because i have actual problems now.

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>>214687421
On top of everything else I'm also black. According to anons on here hookers hate black customers.

>>214687513
Just don't look like a hoodrat when they ask you to verify and be willing to put down a deposit.

>>214687421
Any suggestions of where to look?

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>>214687548
Alright well how do I go about looking for one of these girls? I'm in Chicago if that helps.

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>>214687271
It really is awful hearing sisters and friends talk about their bad dates while never having had one.

>>214687615
Thank you anon

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>>214687611
Yeah she tries to cheer me up but I know that if we weren't related she'd treat me just like every other woman does. I think she knows that too and feels guilty about it which is why she and my other sister try so hard to cheer me up.

>>214687702
I half wanna ask you if you're having a stroke, but I get it. Still, I hate the half-pity they got once we get bad enough or something. I get their intention, but none of what they'll do will help. They're whores trying to help an incel.

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>>214687787
Why do you want to ask me if I'm having a stroke?

>>214687854
>Yeah she tries to cheer me up but I know that if we weren't related she'd treat me just like every other woman does.
This is either a drunk or a stroke sentence. You really ought to work on your grammar. The object of the sentence is repeated while the conjunctive object is said twice. Try something like:
>If my sister and I weren't related, she'd treat me like any other.
It's quicker, clearer and cleaner!

>>214687941
>nta
you sound like the fags shouting saar at every misspelling. i don't see where you figure that sentence sounds like he's drunk or having a stroke.

>>214687941
Yeah well my iq has dropped from 130 to about 95 (it might be even lower now) because of my schizoaffective disorder. I write as best as I can.

>>214680913
Good. White's shouldn't have children or a family.

>>214688005
>nta
That's not a thing, just say what you have to say, we're all anons. Also do not reuse conjunctive grammatical objects in consecutive co-sentences.

>>214688028
Did it drop recently with your illness or gradually?

>>214688124
Gradually I first noticed when I turned 19 and it's slowly gotten worse since then. I'm 33 now if I even live to see my 40's I can't imagine how stupid I'll be by then.

I'm 27, i've always wanted a big family but never understood how to talk to women. I did manage to have a gf for a couple months in 2023 but she was diagnosed bipolar and I couldn't deal with that behavior.

on the one hand, I feel like it's a good thing because had I somehow gotten married at 23 then I would have been a terrible husband at the time, I feel I've gotten smarter about things compared to even just a few years ago

on teh other hand my uncle met his wife at age 27, they started a family, she turned out to be an abusive loon and after a decade of this he killed himself. the lesson being that the good girls all were married much younger.

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>>214680952
>Asking an incel what theyre doing to change the situation their in

>>214688219
>just become an oversocialized retard bro

>>214682738
On her way to get shit on by arabs

>>214682823
everytime you see a celebrity take a private jet pic just know there is a chance it is saudi evidence flexing on each other.

>>214681031
i got nothing going on and im not going to fake an entire hobby and life just to get laid, seems disingenuous

>>214680913
From the earliest time I started thinking about girls I always knew for sure that I will never ever have a gf. I'm just too retarded and too ugly.

I'm a 31yo khhv incel now.

>>214680913
Why is everyone watching Up in the air all of sudden?

i never thought i would be married as a kid or teen. i just thought my friends would be there forever LMAO

Remember those girls with whom you made a joke pact that "if we aint got no one by the time we turn 30 we're gonna married" haha crazy

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>>214688219
>incel
>gets /fit/ and becomes social
>starts to regularly interact with and have sex with women
>becomes more misogynistic than ever before
many such cases

I will forever be alone, could be worse i guess.

>>214689195
I always wanted to become extremely hot for a day in order to reject every women who approached me.

At 16 I was watching this movie with the girl I loved and we talked about growing old and kids together. Half a year later she cheated and I left.
Been single ever since

>>214687941
>If my sister and I weren't related, she'd treat me like any other.
That doesn't convey the same information. It's missing the part about trying to cheer him up which provides context for the rest of the sentence.
Also,
>she'd treat me just like every other woman does
is very explicit whereas
>she'd treat me like any other
is more vague.
Your version is grammatically cleaner but his is more effective in expressing what he is trying to say.

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>>214680913
>Y-Yeah me too ahaha

I don't want to sound defeatist and blackpilled but I'm beginning to think there's something fundamentally wrong with me.

Most normal people just coast through life and stumble into relationships pretty much effortlessly.

That's why I hate when smug retards are like
>ummm, did you actually try???
Most men who are in relationships did not "try" to get a girlfriend. They just existed, went to parties, met girls they clicked with, and boom, now they're a couple.

>>214690148
that's a sign of the times
Were you born 20 years earlier, you would already be married

>>214690148
you are delusional if you think that these things just "happen" to other people

there are people who make it look effortless, because being social is like breathing to them. but its a skill you learn like any other. they are just ahead of you for various reasons, but most of all because you refuse to participate so you never go anywhere.

either get your shit together and start, or don't. but stop complaining about things you have complete control over. you chose to be a miserable and lonely recluse, don't try to dump this on other people, own up to who you are

>>214680913
When I was 16 I found out my dad cheated on my mom and that's the moment I stopped giving a shit about traditional values. Nothing matters anymore in this day and age. I'm married but I would have been fine staying single forever.

>>214690219
>you refuse to participate
NTA but why is that always the default response. Why do people keep pushing that just world theory bullshit

>>214690327
the world isnt just, but if you refuse to actively work to better your situation and then bitch about it, you are part of the problem.

just get to fucking work, accept the losses you're gonna take. its hard work for everybody to find a place in society and make connections with other people, this shit doesnt fall in your lap.

the game aint fair and some people do have advantages, but sperging out about it because its hard is peak schizo behavior.
relationships and sex are a basic human experience, if you want to have it you gotta do something for it.

>>214690219
The problem though is that by your early 20s, your window for socializing and making new friends is pretty much closed.

>inb4 "just join a sports team" or "just go to bars"
guess what, pretty much every social outlet that exists as an adult is meant for people with other friends. I've gone to bars and other sort of social events but everyone shows up with their insular friend group and rarely mingles with people outside that group

>>214680983
Get married in a state with child support caps. My wife tried to divorce me, she realized it was retarded, and we are still together 20+ years.

>>214690449
this is true, and thats why you join ACTIVITY events, classes for learning a skill are best.

I can unironically suggest dancing lessions, partner dance like salsa or swing are ideal because they always have a surplus of women.
101 courses have a loose social setting where you will mix partners often during lessions, so you will be off the hook in 5 minutes if you spill your spaghetti with girl7 and move on to girl8.
everyone will be bumbling and bad at it, the ideal opportunity to have fun with yourself and others.
and you can practice small talk and body language in a low stakes environment. learn to dress, to move and let loose a bit.

these activities will funnel into social dancing events after a few months when the class gets more advanced, so you will connect with more people automatically if you stick with it. if you sperg too hard you can always quit.

>>214689195
the more success with women you have, the more your trust in women fades. familiarity breeds contempt

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Live life in jp

>>214689107
Same, I just give up.
t. 34 khv

>>214680913
if a woman is single past 18 thats her choice. She can literally walk into the street and marry a rich banker

>>214681028
>That's all you need to get a wife too.
and then get divorced a few years later because you were still pretending to be a normie and then she takes everything from you

I'm a Christian MAGA in California so it's rough out there. Funny enough I'm a mega charmer. I can win over almost anyone with humor and personality. Problem is I seem to exclusively attract libs. I even did the impossible and fucked one straight. She only dated women and now after me she only dates men. Even my current prospects, all libs that like me. Fuckin sucks.

All the good Christian girls got married out of High School and now I'm 35. The single Christian girls are now fat or single moms. If I have kids I don't want lib influence. But when I give up on kids I may end up with a lib. Which sucks. I don't wanna compromise faith wise. I wanna marry a Christian. But I'm losing hope.

>>214691410
>I'm a Christian MAGA
I'm so sorry

>>214689195
>so as to pass strong and atractive genes to my future children
Yeah...

>tfw have never had a gf but have also never actually approached or asked a girl out

>actually went to bars and parties a few times but would also just talk with my male friends and would never approach women

is it an occam's razor situation where the reason why i've never had a gf is simply because i've never actually asked a girl out? are you pretty much fucked if you don't have the balls to initiate as a man?

>>214681054
>>214681378
>under 55
>using a jew controlled algorithm to decide who you meet
start actually meeting people.

>>214691603
telling a single person "just meet people" is like telling a depressed person "just stop being sad", or a poor person to "just stop being poor"

>>214683524
make a plan and work hard towards it.
there is no other way. you need a strong goal, and to plan for it, even if your plan changes along the way.
how important is it to you, life or death? then treat it like. that

>>214680944
I had in mind 35 being a good age, like I'd be well set up, still young enough but old enough to have experience. have a good wife, good job, house, friends, loving wife.
I have none of that, I'm. 45 and 35 was a. heartbeat ago.
i don't even have a car, my life is a statistical anomaly of how little I have.
don't wait around, sort it out

>>214691663
no, I'm saying stop using those fucking apps/websites. it's a jew trick to turn everyone into isolated learned helplessness wrecks.
people still exist in the real world, but you have to fucking seek them out and do REAL THINGS.
look at how many women have half a dozen retarded hobbies. where do they go to do them? why don't you have any?

i feel empty being 44 khhv (everything-less) why did it become like this. i put too much effort into finishing my degree and getting a good job. it's for nothing

>>214690148
Yeah, that's true. It's part of the reason why their advice on dating is so bad and rarely works.

I just find people so inherently unlikeable. And women are people so it's an issue. The few women I've met that I actually liked and admired I considered so far out of my league as to not be worth even bothering about.

>>214691839
that was 20 years ago. what did you put effort into since besides your work

>>214680952
nta but i dropped 35+ lbs, cleaned up, bought new clothes, shaved my thinning hair, made myself as normiefied as possible, hyped myself up with confidence, spent an entire year on three different dating apps swiping right on unattractive but attainable single mothers, and i have fuckall to show for it

>>214690219
this
it really is a skill - equivalent to "speech" in skyrim.
dunno why people put hundreds of hours into a computer game but won't do the same in real life.
if you treat life like an rpg, you'll honestly have a better time of it than you are currently.
one anon said "do you care if npcs in oblivion see you jumping around leveling up your acrobatics? then why would you care about them in real life?"
it's helpful to think that way, because then you can dance in public and become better over time if you stop worrying what others might be thinking. same goes for social skills, speaking with people, learning how to hold a conversation through trial and error.
you might have missed the starting skills pack and never have a perfect setup, but staying at lvl 1 forever because of that sucks donkey anus. face your fears and talk with as many people as you can, go outside your comfort zone and see how high you can level up in a year of doing that.
>>214690449
there are more lonely people than ever, men and women believe it or not. you have to find out where they spend their time and spend your time there too, and make an effort to talk with them

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33 years old, never had a girlfriend in my life but I did get obsessed with pic related midwestern chick who was whoring herself on the Internet for a while. To this day I cannot describe why I am attracted to slightly homely girls like this but they drive me nuts. I know I'll never have one of my own, though, and I'm going to kill myself next year anyway so it doesn't even matter.

>>214690537
good advice. I've said more or less the sase for over a decade. some people will follow it and it will improve their lives.
none of it is easy, but none is as impossible as it seems either

>>214692098
is she three foot tall?
if you have nothing to lose, start taking some risks and follow the advice in this thread.
kill your old life instead of killing yourself.
see >>214690537

>>214692106
seen the exact opposite title of an article. it's all lies
almost no one really wants to be single. some are just too afraid not to be

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>>214680913
At least as a man you can still get in on till your 30's and you can always groom some virgin into being your trade life if need be (top secret advice btw).

>>214691076
I would marry her.

>>214692083
>it really is a skill

yeah but it's like you're at level 1 while everyone around is level 20, which is what makes you feel pathetic and humiliated

you just wonder where in life you fucked up where you have pretty much no friends while everyone around you seems to socialize effortlessly

the reality is that if you're neurotic and high inhib like me, you just might never fit in. i've made peace with it mostly but it still sucks

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>>214692147
>is she three foot tall?
She DOES seem pretty tiny. Attached pic is her man and apparently the only one she's ever had.

>kill your old life instead of killing yourself.
You give really good advice, but I'm not killing myself over women. I'm killing myself over the world. I won't live in the WEF hellscape where I have to provide a government ID to do anything on the Internet and everything I do and say is linked to my real world identity and constantly monitored, and most people are cattle who don't care so there will be no rising up to defeat any of this, they'll just take it like they take everything else. The world is going to shit so I'm checking out. I'm tired of trying. I'm going to lose my excess weight, fly to Vegas to fuck hookers legally, and then off myself.

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>>214688219

>>214692237
>won't live in the WEF hellscape where I have to provide a government ID to do anything
imagine caring about that just welfaremaxx bro.

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>tfw been single my whole life
>used to the bachelor lifestyle of doing everything by myself, not really having to take care of or care for anyone but myself
>used to waking up to 0 text messages every day
>am terrified at the possibility that even if I managed to get a gf, the fact that I've been alone basically my whole life means i never developed the skills to function in a relationship or live with another human being

>>214692318
how old

>>214692293
I already work and make a bit of money (not a lot), but it doesn't really matter. One of my favorite hobbies was buying European books and music on eBay but then the Trump admin ended the de minimis exemption and everything is fucked, you can't get anything from outside of the country anymore. It made me realize that every president is a Jewish puppet installed to make our lives worse for no reason, and with these new "Internet safety" laws, the last little bit of comfort I had in browsing and shitposting with relative immunity and anonymity will be gone. I will have nothing left. My life is meaningless. At least when I kill myself, I won't leave children behind. People will miss me, but they'll get over it in time, and I'll be free.

>>214692237
I know how you feel mam, but you can't let them beat your mind like that - I don't expect you to rise up and defeat them, but you can go as far as you need to to find alternatives, however slim a difference they might be.
ive seen people who live parallel to the rest of the world, truly adventure. it is possible, but you need to go to odd places to find them and find ideas like that, since you'll almost never think of them, see them or believe it is possible unless you go there.
losing weight is good, becoming moderately fit is good. if you have money for v.
egas etc, I'd recommend spending it on putting yourself abroad to a place that isn't 100% controlled.
i strongly recommend selling all your shit, accruing savings, and going on an extended trip that might turn permanent.
deapite their fingers being long, they aren't so fully in every pot that they want us to think they are.
a lot of it is illusionary.

>>214692359
25

>>214692370
>"Internet safety" laws,
How is this going to effect you I'm currently posting over TOR massive skill issue on your end lil bro.
>My life is meaningless
Same but life is too interesting to die just yet and the Jew whens when you give up.

>>214680944
>>214680952

I'm 35 and alone, but I lived with a partner for 9 years previously. My reason for not really pursuing a new relationship is just that... I much prefer being alone. It's not worth losing your peace for a piece.

I used to be a total simp, wrote love songs and poetry, complete adoring boyfriend behaviour. But there's no unlearning the things I've learned about women, so it's basically impossible for me to get excited about the chase anymore.

>>214692318
I went through that. you have to learn how to set boundaries and also adapt. it's a balancing act, but you do learn fast.

>>214692444
tripz of guarded hope
not everyone stumbles across the answers to these problems. helps when you share at least clues

>>214692425
>ive seen people who live parallel to the rest of the world, truly adventure. it is possible, but you need to go to odd places to find them and find ideas like that, since you'll almost never think of them, see them or believe it is possible unless you go there.
I hope one day I could find a place like that but I feel very stranded in life. I don't think I could ever leave my parents as my dad is too incompetent to keep his life together and I genuinely don't even know how much longer my mother will be able to work.

>if you have money for v.
egas etc, I'd recommend spending it on putting yourself abroad to a place that isn't 100% controlled.
That's not a bad idea, but I haven't really figured out where that would be.

>i strongly recommend selling all your shit, accruing savings, and going on an extended trip that might turn permanent.
That'd be tough because I guess at the end of the day I'm materialistic. My movie and book collection are really precious to me, I have so many memories from them.

>deapite their fingers being long, they aren't so fully in every pot that they want us to think they are.
a lot of it is illusionary.
That's true, and it's easy for me to forget that sometimes. I appreciate you reminding me of that, it's a salve on the wound inflicted by my current blackpill spiral.

>>214692444
>and the Jew [wins] when you give up.
You make a good point, but if you can't fight them and refuse to serve them, what else can you do?

>>214680944
Funny that I wanted to wait until after 30 to do that and by the time I got to 30 I realized women are horrid and I took an anti natal stance to life. As being brought into the sentience is a burden.
I dodged a bullet by delaying it.
Sure my life is shit but it would be much shittier if I had a wife and kids.

>>214692233
chekt
> makes you feel pathetic and humiliated
have to face that man. there's no way around it completely, the secret really is to stop caring what other people might be thinking of you in a moment. just do things.
i went through it, being a retard in conversations, not knowing how to talk to girls or people in general. being clingy around new strangers since I had no friends and them dumping me so I wouldn't follow them. but little by little I went through it and found a better balance. still don't like many people, but I can talk with almost anyone.
i still make mistakes even after years, but overall I'm far better off in terms of social skills than I was.
if you're inhibited, or shy like I've been most of my life to one degree or another, you can overcome it somewhat through exposure.
doing things that you feel awkward or uncomfortable about. little by little you don't mind them so much, you become more able to do them whether you enjoy them or not. and sometimes you do enjoy them, and the more you do them the more you enjoy them.
for me a big one was dancing, was sort of a turning point for me in some regards. went to a wedding, a married 50 year old woman there more or less forced me to dance several times during the whole thing and although I was stiff and nervous, she persisted, made it her mission. after that some weeks later I happened to be in a bar with a dance floor, and I said what the fuck, and decided not to care what others thought and danced, just for myself and by myself.

>>214692370
maybe start flying to Europe with a big suitcase once a year and filling it up with second hand books

>>214692607
>but if you can't fight them and refuse to serve them
Silent resistance is the best way to fight any system create a better life for your children free of Jewish influence and eventually they will take power in some kinda institution hold strong to their values and make the world a better place. The least you can do is not kill yourself so a jeet takes your job and dont consume the goyslop.

>>214681411
>women don't care about stability
Imagine being this fucking much of a naive zoomer
LARPing like he knows anything about women.
Women want everything sorted for them without having to put in effort, and they want to be able to surround themselves with sensory pleasures, i.e a nice home and trinkets.
So they want money.

36 and I've never even spoken to a woman. Fantasy is better than reality anyway though, no flesh woman can compare to Lina Inverse.

>>214692620
Not the anon you were replying to, but I'm over 30 and I have never been in a real relationship or had sex, and at this point I just wish that I'd gotten that shit out of my system in my 20s so I could savor being alone now. It would be a relief to me if sexual intercourse wasn't this abstract thing to me that I can only look at on video and masturbate to, but we can't always get what we want I guess. I'd like to have sex at least once before I die, hence why I said I'll probably try to fly to Las Vegas next year.

>>214692707
dude putting sex on a pedestal is peak brainwashed behavior I rather die a virgin than have my only experience be with a crack whore

>>214692607
save my post and any other post that wipes away some of the black pill. then read them from time to time to ground yourself.
it is very hard sometimes to think outside of the situation you're in, the natural state of mind is to adapt to and ease into the situation you're in, and it gradually becomes your whole worldview, leaving you feeling trapped like you said.
i'd recommend taking some trips to places you've never been, whether in the US or outside. try some completely new countries, go for 3-4 weeks so you can detach from the previous mindset for long enough to open up a bit.
by seeing enough places, you'll start gaining information. talk to lots of people along the way, ask them about the place or where they've been, and say you feel stuck where you are.
people will have info and ideas that you'd never hear otherwise or anywhere else.
could be south america, you find yourself living on a beach and finding you don't need any of the shit you thought you did.
dunno about your parents, but try short stints abroad or in other states, so you can come back to them.
as for your stuff, don't need to get rid of it (yet), could put it in storage and go away. see how you feel when you're somewhere else for a month.
i have a tie to possessions, I think it comes from an unstable childhood where I wanted comfort and consistency and found it in objects instead of people or activities.
i found I hated it later on though, because they become an anchor. and now I still haven't cured it, but I don't acrue more of it.

>>214692620
I'm not drowning in pussy, but it's not cope that I don't want kids because they then have to one day become frail and die. Whites should keep breeding, but I know I'm hypocritical telling others to keep civilization staffed.

>>214680952
nothing. i'd rather be alone.

>>214692766
I just want to know what it's like at least once, man. Maybe I do put it up on a pedestal but it's a basic human experience that I've seen a million times on a screen but never been through myself. Is it such a crime to want to fuck a decent-looking woman and cum on her for once in my life?

>married the girl i met at the mall when she was 13 that went to the highschool on the other side of town the day she turned 18
no one ever believed me when i said i had a gf
3 kids now
ill be 40 january and shell be 36
weve been together forever it seems
best decision i ever made

>>214692707
sex isn't as big a deal as you think it is. and the main difference afterwards is that once you've done it once, you'll realise it wasn't a big deal and more important lose your fear over it.
like I said here >>214692781
I recommend going on 3-4 week long trips, maybe to south america to start. research your destinations a bit before you go. stay in hostels so there are always people to talk to, ask questions ab but what to do, and so things with.
it'll be weird at first but a few weeks in and you'll already be much more familiar with it and be picking up skills and ideas.
then go again somewhere else for a few weeks and so on. after a few trips like that you'll have more direction of what you want to do, and be far more comfortable around people and girls.
plus, if you embarrass yourself in one place with some people, you're in another place two days later and you can do things a bit better.
like I said, you have nothing to lose. you're mentioning ending things because everything seems crap and hopeless. you don't really want to be gone, but you do want to live differently. so you have to put effort into exploring and finding that different life, no matter how many tries it takes.
you will find it

>>214680952
A man either has to date down physically, heavily so, to get a girl that finds him attractive. Looksmatching has been killed by feminism slut culture. Then, not even talking about the physical aspect, you have to have money to impress women. It IS a very materialistic and hollow charade. Doubly so when everyone's broke because coin clipping satanists own our government.

Women unironically have to be property for society to function. No guy invests in women/families since investing in women usually leads to money problems, legal issues, and/or her cucking you without you having the right to bash her brain in.

>>214692864
ideal life, ideal wife.
sounds a lot more natural than any current year nonsense, somehow you rediscovered a 1950s love story

>>214692854
>basic human experience
The basic human experience is reproduction sex for the sake of sex is hedonistic.

>>214692707
Look man if you got to 30 and you havent even banged a prozzy then that is a YOU issue.
Just like anything prozzy is a service and like anything in the modern day you can order it online. You can look at prozzys in your area like a meat menu and find them of all types and ages and that do all sort of shit for the right price.
If you didnt even think this was an option, it sounds to me there is a serious YOU issue.
Which probably goes to speak as to how you got to 30 and haven't even scammed some bar skank for some pussy.
Shit I am not super attractive an I have managed to get laid enough. (though I would have preferred more sex)
Though, I used to have charisma, experience with people, am not shy or introvert and would take risks and ask for pussy.
I got hit twice with illness in my early and then late 20s that fucked up my ability to get more pussy.

>>214692809
I took the anti natal stance for more religious/philosophical thinking. I think sentience is a massive burden and it is a cruel, unkind thing to do to force another person, your child, to go through this experience, for your own entertainment (of having a child)
There is the innate desire for sex, a partner and children that humans have. Its more so poignant for a woman.
Even now at my age (40) I occasionally get random intrusive thoughts about teaching children how to live and avoid mistakes that I made.
As well as I have sexual desire. Though the desire does not control or burden me like it did in youth. I just sate it with masturbation and go on with my day.
Point I am getting at is that it is natural to desire pussy, a wife/gf and having children. We are hard wired to think in such a way, but we are also higher beings and we can control these primitive desires and overcome them.

>>214692930
eh she ate a bunch of cordies and was having a bad trip. i just happened to be there with a cigg when she needed it
she was gothed out and my exact type(aria giovanni mid 00's look)
she latched on and never let go
her parents were PISSED
i miss cordie trips and beer pong days
getting old sucks now we just fish and camp

>>214692781
>>214692871
Anon, thank you for taking time out of your day to give me a blueprint when you could have easily just laughed in my face, I really appreciate it. You seem like a genuinely kind person. I'll consider everything you suggested.

>>214692964
>Just like anything prozzy is a service and like anything in the modern day you can order it online. You can look at prozzys in your area like a meat menu and find them of all types and ages and that do all sort of shit for the right price.
You think I haven't looked? LOL the selection around here is absolutely dire, I was never more depressed than when I saw the state of whores in my area.

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Same

43 years old and I don't see myself being with anybody ever again but then again I don't see anything wrong with being single either.

I have enough money for myself and I do things that I want to do. I don't even know anybody who knows women outside of their family-circle

>>214692948
But why is sex pleasurable then? Obviously it would be a lot less so because my dick was mutilated (thank you Jews), but still some. Enough to want it.

>>214693013
drugs are the gateway to trad pure happy life.

>>214693202
what do you do in your freetime?

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>>214680913
I was married by 27, divorced at 32. You didn't miss out on anything

This movie is so fucking sad

>>214689726
Literally my dream girl

>>214693150
>the selection around here is absolutely dire
where are you?
You used adultwork.com?

>>214688239
>you can only be an oversocialized retarded golden retriever dudebro or else a basement-dwelling shut-in, there's no in-between bro!

>>214693166
Because you are a tranny freak. You need to find other faggots like you

>>214693256
for sure
15 hour meth fueled fuck marathons in a hotel once a month are all i live for now
my dad asked me a few years ago "why do you guys get a hotel like once a month and ask us to babysit" i straight up told him
the last time we tried to stay home and do it we destroyed the entire house and it smelled like feces and sweat for a week.
better to get a room, less cleaning

>>214693018
do some research, make three quick alternate plans for different constructive ideas, then do a bit of research and thinking for each one, basic costs, time frame, locations, things you can do.
whatever and wherever it is, it takes time and ups and downs, and practice and talking to a lot of different people asking questions, learning about different lives.
see it as a long term project of discovery, so you won't learn everything in your first go, but you will learn more as you go along.
new objectives and perspectives will present themselves along the way, you'll gain inspiration in ways and about things that you couldn't have expected. futures will open up in your mind and you'll learn more about what you do and do not want.
you'll also be making lots of small decisions along the way which helps to hone your instincts and builds confidence.
treat any failures as learning opportunities and try again another time.
you'll be alright

>>214686910
doesn't work

>>214680913
>Married for a year or so.
>Not attracted to wife, hardly have sex.
>Wife is horny and wants to fuck.
>Neither me nor my dick want to, and dick goes limp mid fuck anyway..
After much deliberation with myself over the subject, I think I should've never gotten married, I like being alone more, and women are constant hard fucking work and take constant maintenance, and I believe porn has fucked with my world view irreparably to the point where I like the moving pictures behind the glass much more than the real thing, less hassle too.
Don't fall for it bros.

>>214693333
QUADZ OF DEPRAVED UNITY
keeps you together and a wholesome family. will you ensure your children are slowly brought into sensible and holistic drug use when they are old enough?

>>214693348
social hobbies? hobbies involving other people being in the same space as you?
that's the key. don't need to change who you are, but probably do need to open up some new skills instead of stagnating

>>214693263

At home I write music with my computer machine, I sometimes make art with a graphics tablet. I take care of my kitty cat. And when outside I go to see shows with a friend, coupled with drinks. During summer I might attend a festival or two. Then of course I will help my relatives with things if they need something that needs doing.

>>214693407
drop porn completely. six months with absolutely zero porn should go along way to fixing most of your brain. brain remains pliable throughout life.
since you have a wife, you should have stopped fapping, especially if your sex drive is messed up.
no fap for 2-3 weeks, no porn completely forever.
unless you have a medical problem, going a few weeks without ejaculation should make you want to fuck.
fix it, it isn't good to leave your wife like that, especially when it's your porning that's likely one of the main elements.
sex is bonding, and if you are Having Sex with her once a night, you will form a deeper and lasting bond.
beats being bonded to the pane of jew-glass.

>>214680952
We must become better men.

>>214693450
but what if I just don't like anything that requires me to be around other people? It'd be like telling a high test football playing jock that he should join knitting classes.
It seems stupid and pointless to try and force myself to like something I don't like just for the sake of meeting people.

I have plenty of hobbies (working out, reading books, watching movies, studying languages etc) but none of these really require me to interact with other people. I do them all from the comfort of my own home.

>tfw if you don't like drinking, sports, or dancing as an adult, you basically have to accept dying alone

>>214690499
Imagine bragging about staying with a woman who was so repulsed by you she tried to divorce you.

>>214693514
>drop porn completely.
Worked for me.

>GF moves in
>stopped watching porn(by myself)
>stopped jacking off(by myself)
>reach horniness levels close to what they were in HS
>getting hard from kissing her
>getting hard from smelling her
>so horny I subconsciously feel her up
>even in front of her sister and nieces
>her horniness levels thankfully match mine

>>214693689
Arnold Schwarzenegger took ballet lessons to improve his grace on stage in bodybuilding competitions.
generally unless you despise something, the more you do it, and the more you learn about it, the more you enjoy it.
if you start something where other people are, and stick with it for at least six months, you'll enjoy it and know some new people.
not much risk trying it out, ąsk yourself how many people do you meet per day by doing all those things inside your house? I did that for years and the only girl that knocked on the door was either working for a charity or trying to sell something. one asked for a glass of water once on a hot day, so I brought it to her on the doorstep. dunno if she thought I'd invite her inside.
point is, if you want to meet people, you have to go where people are.
think about it

>>214689008
>fake an entire hobby and life

>>214693806
same happened with me which is why I recommended it.
youre right about the high school level horniness.
>boner from smelling her
same, it's the way we're meant to be.

I wish she was my nerdy girlfriend

married, 27. met her at 23, she was my first. "dated" slightly before that but not really, got minimal attention from women and I had deep personality problems.

fast forward to today
>we fight a lot, she breaks down and cries easily
>she's extremely needy & emotionally unstable
>she wants to have sex way more than I do
>have extremely high pressure and stressful career (law)
>yet we still get along and she has a lot of very positive qualities

lately I haven't even been that attracted to her because of her endless emotional breakdowns. have cheated on her three times, ironically I now get 10x the attention from women than I EVER got before marriage, which is the cruel part. did I make the right or wrong decision? I don't know. but be careful what you wish for. I'll answer any questions btw

>>214680952
Working on a time machine

>>214693911
>>she's extremely needy & emotionally unstable
>>she wants to have sex way more than I do
Sounds like she got molested and uses sex to keep you (her dad/uncle) around.

>>214691603
approaching women is chad only

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I actually asked a chick with one of these cow nose piercings why so many girls have gotten them, and she just told me it makes her nose look "cooler". Women are really childlike in a lot of ways.

>>214690537
If this would be the final solution to the incel question, dancing courses would be filled with oppressed gamers etc low tier men who disgust women just by existing

all women want is chad, this will not ever change

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this thread

women demand insane things from men:
>you can't play video games
>you need to be fit and tall
>you need to have a career
>six figures, six inches, six feet
>you need to be extroverted
>you need to have friends

fuck all bluepill normiess to hell RREEEEE

>>214687421
I've had GFE escorts but I've never stayed overnight with any, I'm too paranoid about actually falling asleep next to a stranger and being at their mercy all night, it even weirds me out when my friends have one night stands like how do you know they aren't going to rob you or worse during the night and leave?

>>214692030
God damn that is grim. Not that I'm doing much better if that makes you feel any better.

is dating in 2025 as equally miserable for women as it is for men?

I know this is an incel board but being flooded with dick picks from strangers on tinder is exactly something most women want.

>>214693911
chekt
sounds like you both need to work on it, instead of letting things go downhill.
an anon long ago said the best advice he'd heard was "do a sport together", something both of you can improve at and only do it with each other.
apart from that, books, trustworthy couples therapy. given you're in law, you should have half a brain and be able to read fast enough, so try reading and solving it together first.
need to improve communication. figure out why you really argue and find a way around it to break the cycle.
the attention you receive probably won't be worth dropping what you have, that might be a serious point of contention and causing some of your current strife, your perspective.
does she have a job and interests? why is she needy. are you providing enough general reassurance in your behaviour for her to feel stable and loved? figure it out.

>>214693980
I think most of us here for the last 20 years have been doing that. maybe we should collaborate. >>214694070

>>214694111
Whats going on anon?

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I don't get tattoos either, women really will get anything inked into their bodies.

>>214694070
dated two, or maybe three girls with those.
dont know why they've become at all common. nose bridge is perhaps one of the only non invasive facial piercings that is worse.
ir doesn't look nice, it uglifies the nose. if they started having really large ring ones like cows then you could tie a rope to it and pull them around at least

>>214694401
indeed, sickening.
i grew up in a time without piercings or tattoos, wish I'd married young so I wouldn't have to face all this.
the tattoos are usually in the same spots too, ankle, wrist, shoulder.
tee hee
vile

>>214694159
>you can't play video games
Was small talking with the new guy at work, trying to find a shared interest. Says he likes cars, I ask him what he drives, he says his GF won't let him have a nice car. Says he likes guns, GF won't let him own a gun. Says he likes action movies, GF won't let him watch those. I point out the absurdity of this and he just laughs. Made me feel much better about my incel ways.

>>214694434
I once worked with this 21 year old who would have been adorable but she had basically a whole sleeve on one of her arms and one of those retarded nose piercings. I really hate how this shit caught on. I remember thinking some of those Suicide Girls chicks were hot back in the day but all that shit was a novelty then, I never expected every other girl was going to try to look like that.

>Sometimes it feels like no matter how much success I have, it all won’t matter until I find the right guy. I don’t know. I could have made it work. He just really fit the bill. My type. You know, white collar. College grad. Loves dogs. Likes funny movies. Six foot one. Brown hair. Kind eyes. Works in finance but is Outdoorsy, you know, on the weekends. (we think she’s done) I always imagined he’d have a single syllable name like Matt or John or… Dave. In a perfect world, he drives a Four Runner and the only thing he loves more than me is his golden lab. Oh… and a nice smile.

Narrator: "Anna Kendrick is now 40. She never married. She never had children."

It's like the end of Quantum Leap.

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It's really fucking scary when you realize that the people with functional reading skills (<1% of the world's population) are breeding far below replacement levels.

>>214694401
holy cankles

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>>214694401
Seethe. Also, foota.

>>214695209
haha - Sam never returned home.
it's an oblivion level misery that all these women are barren and all these men gelded. we know why it has happened and who set up the circumstances for it to happen, but visualising the magnitude of it and how widespread it is is unfathomablely dread including.

>>214687390
>play it cool, mysterious but not too aloof
>Make it seem your not desperate and that youre fun to be around.
>Dont sperg out and start talking about your warhammer figures (unless thats the thing you have in common with her)

>>214695330
by design.
there are symposiums from the 50s, 60s, 70s and beyond attended by hundreds of leading scientists across various fields which were focused solely on future population reduction by any means necessary.
the scientists were lied to, told it was to reduce populations overall to prevent catastrophe via expended resources.
in reality it was only ever for Europeans, and all their research abused and implemented as a weapon against us.
if I can ever be bothered, I'll scan in one of the books I have which is probably almost unfindable otherwise based on one of these symposiums, it's more or less a plan of some of the main features between then and now that have caused reproduction to be a niche hobby rather than an outright basic need for the survival of our people.
idiots and primitives are easier to control, and the ones pushing all this are more or less an apocalyptic doomsday cult.

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>>214695809
???

>>214687390
the way I handled it when I was 18 or something was to go along with them to the cinema as an unofficial double date, despite it not being told to me like that, ignore her for the entire film and just stare at the screen - it was a shit unfunny film and I had been the one to choose it, making it even worse.
then after the film the three of them walk off and I apologise to her for not talking much and leave.
dont even remember her name

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>>214695936
Sorry, forgot this.

>>214680913
despite being few years away from wizardhood and being an autist with no friends whatsoever, I still have hope in my heart that I can get a wife and kids someday
>>214680952
nothing really

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>>214695970
No problemo, allways nice to see a fellow foot lover.

>>214680944
I'm 37 and alone. I'm worse. I guess you can take comfort in that.

>>214680952
Why should I sacrifice all my waking hours, my standards, my principles, my personality, and my health for the chance at getting some milquetoast woman who has been having sex with a new guy every year since she was a teenager and probably has a couple of kids already and will just come to resent me over time for not being Fabio and for not submitting to her every opinion and whim for the rest of our lives? That's really the carrot they're dangling in front of me to get me to be their slave? As they mock and hate me like I'm the one ruining the world instead of the doomsday cult pedophiles that aren't even trying to hide their sabotage of the world anymore? Are they retarded?
>hurr well I guess you're just gonna starve
Maybe. I don't give a fuck anymore. Fuck you all.

>>214695970
stop posting this ugly tranny you nigger

>>214696157
Is it like some epic meme to call obvious women trannies on here nowadays?

>>214687513
I am sorry anon, not because you are black, but because it sounds like you might think that makes you less of a person

>>214695907
I hope you find the time to scan that soon.
And honestly, I think the niggercattle of the world will soon keel over and die, but starting over from scratch will be super difficult this time around.

>>214696201
you don't get it. >>214696157 is a femoid.

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>>214696288
Ohhhh. Is that how femoids play? By calling other women trannies? I shouldn't be surprised.

Guys, don't underestimate how bad being a lonely gooner can get. For the past year, I've been making throwaway r*ddit accounts so I can post pics of my cock and jerk off with guys in DMs because I can't get pussy. After I cum, I realize how gross it was to do that, delete everything, and vow to never to do it again only to make another account and do the same shit all over again. It's way easier to get a guy's attention than a woman's, but it's at the cost of your self-respect.

>>214687603
Chicago anon here. Go to the Admiral after 9 at night and look for the bitches with their titties out

I signed up for a dating app and messaged around 100 women and got zero replies. At first I was upset because learning that you're ugly is kind of painful. But as time went on I just felt relief because now I don't have to feel any sort of regret for ending up alone. If women won't even talk to me then it's not like it was my choice.

>>214696796
Hi, this>>214696741 is me. I was on three dating apps simultaneously for weeks and never got a single match. I wanted to kill myself after that.

>>214696741

You're a fag lol.

>>214691410
Lol retard

>>214696849
Yeah, in practice. It's fucking disgusting and I regret every time I've done it, but I cannot get women no matter what I do. They are totally unattainable to me, always have been.

>>214696842
Speaking as a long haired twink who hits on girls like a trapdoor spider hunts prey, I went a month without getting a hit on any of my two apps (they're all owned by the same company so its just one app really), you just gotta keep trying. I got some 400 matches and like six dates out of it.

>>214696140
Beggars can't be choosers. You sound like a uppity nigger, and a dumb one at that.

>>214696917
I have nice hair and an okay face but I was overweight when I made my original profiles and now I'm 30 pounds heavier. I am not optimistic unless I actually commit to losing the weight but I stress eat like crazy.

>>214696948
Go back to blowing your dad, faggot. Beggars can't be choosers after all. I'll bet you have a fat ugly slut of a wife too (open relationship) and you're seething that other people aren't as stupid as you.

>>214696917

Yeah it seems you have to choose between self-respect and dating apps. I'm not spending 40 hours on an app begging for a crumb of pussy-the opportunity cost is crippling. Like if I take that 40 hours and work I actually get something out of it.

Where does one find strenght at times like these?
Too many movies make it feel like someone will notice your hard work OR pain and pick you up.

I played vidya for hours with a friend today, good times and yet I felt no nourishment from that, I have 2 upcoming exams for 2 part time work (I'd like to get both if possible) but I feel no motivation to work for them, I am tired, tired from living in a household with a father that practices self destruction, screams, complain, acts like a baby, tired from living on the edge of poverty, tired from having so many people around me who continually ask me advice about health because they know I can help them, and I get to feel the weight of their pain while being unable to share it with anyone.

>>214696874
You're also gay in theory. Drop the "women" cope, dude. You're just gay.

>>214697171
Naw, man. When some words on the screen are giving you compliments for the first time in your life, it's nice and you get off to it. If a guy said something like that to me in person I would spit in his face but in a faceless Internet fantasy land I will take the scraps I can get, because it's not like a woman is ever going to find me appealing.

>>214696948
You sound like a retarded woman

>>214696090
read the advice in this thread, save it, and think of how you can put it to use.

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>>214680944
I turn 38 soon. You're not alone anon.

>>214696267
starting from scratch in the world would be a pleasure and a good challenge. at whatever state we'd be at, we'd be free to be humans again.
on a personal level, we just find a way to start our own lives from scratch and minimise the extent to which the filth affect us.

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>>214681282
>>214681031
>>214680997
it's really hard not to resent society really.

I'm not even that ugly, i'm like mid, 5'9 not fat but when i got after my looks-match they reject me. Why am i supposed to learn to be a super charismatic guy to compensate for not being a Chad when i see guys that are more attractive and taller than me get hit on all the time.? Women are never that forward with me, it's so tiring.

Last chick who basically rejected me got pumped and dumped by an acquaintance of mine why? because he was sort of attractive and tall but at the same time a bitch who clearly didn't get over his ex gf, if she had gone with me i may have given her an actual relationship instead 5/10 women would rather be Chad's whore than settle down with a 5/10 guy like me.

>>214692659
found the naive boomer

>>214696741
you have to cut out porn of any kind completely and stick with it, even if it takes you 20 attempts, you'll manage it in the end.
the low feeling, low self esteem from going back to it is part of what reinforces the porn habit - so you have to not make a big deal of it and just stop again.
that's the key.
even if you only manage a couple of days at first, it' s time well spent. then the next time 3-4, then a week, and so on.
the first two week are the hardest.
stay busy, spend as much time as possible outdoors as possible, away from the computer, keep blinds/curtains/doors open so privacy is limited.

>>214697517
Yeah, making enough money to never see another nigger IRL is what counts as truly rich now.
>>214697551
>it's really hard not to resent society really.
Misread this as "it's not really hard to not resent society really" and thought that finally, there's an anon ITT that gets it.

Going to my 29 year old friends wedding today. My gf will be there but God I am anxious I've never been to a wedding since I was under 10.

>>214696796
>>214696842
stop using apps, find people in real life. see above in the thread. not easy, but less soul destroying than a jew app that filters you out of existence.

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>>214696236
Damn it was that obvious huh? I don't know even if i was white I think I'd still feel out of place and unwanted. I think what bugs me more than anything is that even if I get better I'll never be able to get girls like pic related. I'm too old and too broke (she comes from a family of millionaires) so I'd have to get with a girl my age who's all but given up.

>>214697600
You think the function, animal instinct of a woman has changed throughout the millennia.
You know nothing about woman. You are talking about little girls and shit you read on the internet.
You have zero fucking experience with women, clearly dont know any IRL and are also clearly a fucking virgin.

>>214697066
go to the same cafe for half an hour 80 times spread across 2-3 months, try talking to regulars.
go to an activity for 2 hours every week for 20 weeks, talk to people, see if anything comes from that.
apps are a trick

>>214681568
>https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/undercover-cops-pose-as-joggers-to-catch-catcallers/news-story/5a2f13e6b55beb54ab4dfb015dac2626
It won't be long before that's illegal.

>>214697154
have to work all the hours you possibly can, save up living as frugally as possible, then move out and continue to save.
live in a shared place, ar least then you can set proper boundaries.
hard work is the only thing that will both remove you from that situation and build you into an adult. not because you're working for anyone else, but because being independent is a vital part of being alive and not just being an extension of your parents.

>>214697644
having any constructive goal is what keeps you going, even if you haxe to work and plan like the count of montecristo to reach it.
chip away at the stone a tiny notch at a time and just keep your goal in mind, eventually you'll be out of the castle

>>214697875
That's the first level. When you really live sin-free you can just EXIST.
Sounds help-guru as fuck but it's true. People lack playfulness. WHIMSY!

>>214697676
go to africa, not even joking. they'll treat you like a king and you'll find a girl within a week.
i don't know why more people don't know this

>>214697949
what do you mean by sin free. to what extent?
no drugs no alcohol

>>214690148
The ugliest people I know still managed the get married and have kids just because they were normies who knew how to be NPC’s.

>>214680913
In my late teens I finally realized that I didn't actually desire companionship and was just copying others.
I'm turning into a wizard next year.

>>214680913
I've always known I'll die alone.

>>214698262
Truth. same goes for success in general. they have jobs, make money, buy houses, run businesses, all without a second thought

>>214698262
>>214698499
Did you ever consider that they are the humans, and we are the creatures from beyond time?

>>214698528
what is our purpose? it would make more sense if I was an alien or something but then what's the point in having an alien that's miserable all the time and no matter what he does things go wrong and it feels like he's cursed and humans treat him with disdain no matter how well he does something.
seems a bit fat-fetched.

>>214680944
if you truthfully, honestly, 100% devoted yourself to finding a wife you could do it in 3 months. I'm talking like put everything else on hold and commit all your free time to dating. this goes for anyone looking for any kind of partner.
not saying it's ideal or fair or the same deal past generations got but it's the reality. adapt or die.

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>>214680944
wait until you hit your 40s....

>>214698049
no gluttony, envy, pride and the rest.
>>214697964
Because it's Africa?!
>>214698262
this is a whitepill
>>214698393
Everyone dies alone
>>214698605
Agreed

is it true that as you age, it gets easier with women?

>>214680944
Same. There's even been women interested (it gets easier with age, lads) but the women I'm interested in wifing and who are interested in me is like a Venn diagram.

I was robbed of my sentimental life because of a lip condition that has been going on for 20 years
If I somehow managed to cure it I don't think it would matter at this point anyway. The damage is done, my self-esteem has been obliterated

>>214698941
try anyway. your esteem will come back through normal interactions.
did your lip curl like elvis'

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>>214698769
I don't think there are a bunch of quadroon girls with fat asses in Africa. Unless there are which, if so point me to which country they're in.

>>214696796
if I did that, trying 100 times with women and failed every single time, I would find that liberating because like you said, I would have actual evidence that it's just something that was never meant for me, so I would happily stop caring about women. my problem is that I'm too much of a chicken to even sign up for an app.

>>214680913
I just realized I never finished this movie. How did it end?

>>214697551
How about you stop being so whiny? Literally just stop caring. Even better, drink alcohol or take drugs to cope. Find an alchie/junkie girlfriend. Have a FAS baby. Have two. Order the cream sauce.

>>214698934
>women I'm interested in wifing and who are interested in me
this fucking sucks, I'm right there with you bro. currently fucking an early-20s white chick, tall brunette with green eyes but she has a bunch of tattoos and a black ex. automatically disqualified from marriage though the sex is good.

>>214680952
I think most people are just starting to get used to and accepting living alone. It's women now too, not just men

>>214691755
>women
>hobbies
Like what, aside from travel (not a hobby) and partying (not a hobby)? Literally any other "hobby" you encounter a f0id in, she's in a relationship.

>>214699422
Someone kills themselves so she quits and he realises that the girl he was banging had a family so he drops her

>>214699701
>no one below 100
doubt
not everyone is an olympic powerlifter

>>214699904
it's lbs not kg

>>214699930
oh, I thought it was pounds. what's libs?

>>214697676
focus on what you can change, you can't change your skin color plus is not an issue.

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>>214696741
My brother, I have been trapped in almost this exact same hellish realm for most of my adult life; turning into a complete faggot pornfreak online with other men due to lack of pussy/asscheekies access and subsequently giving myself a kind of homosexuality-induced mental trauma and/or brain damage. You're not alone in this pain. It's gotten to the point where I can't even see a tilde~ online without being triggered to immediately starting gumping and gurning on my own penis with guys online. Trust and believe, my friend; the Lord can deliver us.

>>214700934
Well, for the record, I've made some progress at least. The second to last time I did it I remember having to basically force myself to get hard because I wasn't actually horny for the situation at all but the compulsion to jerk off essentially led to me raping myself to completion. The final time was when I encountered one of these guys who was clearly damaged like I was and not actually a full time faggot but just a sad, lonely, traumatized individual and even deeper in a hole than I am, just really sick in the head. I had to stop after that but periodically I still take pics of my cock, only I wish I had actual women to show them to and jerk off for. But obviously at the end of the day I just wish I had a girlfriend and mutual love. I wasn't like this 10 years ago, I never would have dreamt of it, but a decade of gooning and loneliness fries your brain and makes you do absolutely sickening things.

Yeah yeah I know guys here are going to just say I'm a faggot, and yes I did do gay shit, but if you've never burned out your brain on porn, you don't understand how you can go from looking at naked chicks in your teens, to looking at naked chicks and hardcore porn videos in your 20s, and then doing all that same shit while at the same time using it to get your cock hard so you can get compliments from oversexed gay/bi men on the Internet, the only people who will give you any attention because you do not and will probably never get pussy.

Pussy is probably not even worth what I've been doing to myself, though, but I'm not a hideous guy with bad genetics. I simply hid away due to lack of self-esteem and I never had a good role model in my life. I honestly wish I'd just pumped and dumped half a dozen girls in college just so I could have gotten it out of my system and I could enjoy my solitude in peace. Instead, I'm worse than a heroin addict when it comes to pornography and forming parasocial relationships with whores.

>>214701374
>I wasn't like this 10 years ago, I never would have dreamt of it, but a decade of gooning and loneliness

I said a decade but I'll be real, it's been over 20 years. It's just that it got really bad in the second half of that time period.

>>214701374
lmao faggot

>>214701515
Hopefully not again.

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>>214701374
I noticed a similar trend towards self-rape as well myself before I started truly trying to stop myself completely; eventually it almost becomes like any other physical dependence where you just have to get enough of the drug in your system to keep from being sick. However, now that I've been getting almost a week between relapses, I find that the inevitable indulgence becomes even more ravenous and gay than the one before it and thus the neuronal reinforcement takes on an entirely new shade of heinous. Ive also met some very downtrodden, pornraped young men in my dalliances that genuinely shake me to my core in dread, and I try to hang on to those memories whenever I'm feeling the craving return. It's a truly unfathomable hell for most people to imagine, but that's what ends up making it all the more necessary for us to fight the good fight for ourselves; no one else really can.

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>>214680913
i'm 34 and i feel my life peaked with i was 18

>>214702027
You're absolutely right, anon. Only we can fight this shit, nobody's going to fix the problem for us. There used to be some great videos about r/gooncaves out there but they've bitten the dust, nevertheless seeing that kind of shit was revealing and I would have thought that would have been enough to scare me straight but clearly not. Pornography really is like a drug addiction, I've never had a harder time kicking something in my life. I used to drink diet soda daily and then I stopped without any issue, but I've been tried to quit pornography for 11 years and never have gone longer than a year without it.

>>214702049
Pretty much the same for me, but then it was also 2008 and everything was way less faggoty then.

>be me
>29 year old virgin
>earlier this year in a depressive slump, just sitting on my ass existing
>4 months ago decided that it's not getting better like this so start doing shit
>hang out with friends again and make plans
>do some exercise
>learn how to cook some semi-decent meals
>start to go outside more and try to be more social
>actually have fun and meet new people
>meet a 10/10 hottie and we instantly click with eachother
There is still hope anons, in a short timespan my life changed pretty drasticially for the better, I just had to actually do something about it instead of drowning in self-pity.
Also I have learned that people don't mind if you're a bit of a weirdo if you own it and are happy with yourself - in fact it actually makes you attractive. Confidence in yourself is the true hard carry for any social interaction.

>>214702287
Thanks for the encouragement, anon. The one and only girl I ever had a relationship with was earlier this year- she had recently turned 30 and had a few kids but we had a million things in common and I was so smitten by her that I wanted to make it work, she was physically my type (thin, freckled, sort of a homely cute). At some point, though, I realized that there was no escaping those kids, the youngest of whom was 8 and the oldest of whom was 14. She also said she wouldn't have sex with me until marriage (lol), which did not help things at all. I broke things off within a week because I knew it wasn't going to work but I am not lying when I said that the first few days of our brief relationship were some of the best days I've ever had in my life.

I'm in my mid-30s and to any normal person this would sound profoundly depressing, I'm sure, but that's my reality. I should mention, also, that not only did she have FOUR kids altogether but they were all from different dads. LOL.

Poor Anna

I become a wizard in a few weeks and I've had nightmares where I get cucked. My brain is just a fried egg of autism and weird anxieties

>>214695330
American Idiot was released in 2004. Author must feel really stupid after realizing this as some autistic jerk (like me) probably pointed out. lol.

>>214703745
Been a wizard for a few years and it gets a little easier with time. I think we were just born too late to have real love, anon.

>>214680944
i thought i wouldn't live to 40.

>>214702287
That's kinda like me, except I'm 36 now, started 2 and a half years ago to get out more. I guess I got stuck at having fun with people, didn't succeed at that, it's been a lifelong issue. But I think I'm beginning to figure it out.

>>214680944
42 next month, but I'm rich and never wanted kids

>>214693860
yes. ulitmately, the only thing i want to do is go home, and sit my ass down and shitpost.
>hey babe, wanna shitpost on /v/ with me
dont think thats gonnnna go down quite that great

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>>214692098
Bro ypu are provlably a decent guy with decent looks go ahead a find a girl that likes you and you like her, you dont need to kill yourself you can enjoy life and make pther enjoy life too, come on man have you seen those old dues that are with those beautiful chicks you can do it man, being that said not everything is perfect so stop looking for perfection

>>214683068
easiest way to change a woman's mind on the matter is get her pregnant - amazing how that works.

>>214689272
Id troll the fuck out of bitches if i looked like zyzz.

>>214680913
Genuinely thought I'd start a family at 20. 35 now. Never did find a woman who could stand me for more than a few months.

>>214704540
>find a girl that likes you and you like her
WOw it was that easy all along, who knew

>>214702202
But to fix pornography you have to reinforce normal porn and then just normal sex and just no sex just normal fantazies and then just healthy normal romantic fantasies sex like in early days if life in order to reform, otherwise you just keep going, for example if i masturbate to trans porn my neurons reinforce that, so when i get excited thats the fantasy you go to involuntarily because you train the dopamine system to search for that get rewarded by that etc, so in order to retrain that you just need to fap to normal porn or heterosexual porn in order to become normal and retrain the brain

>>214704860
Worked for me and im well im not a supermodel and stuff, helps to have caracteristica that girls like that and also depend on the girl but thats just try and find out, come on man you can do it i mean our fathers did it, if they can we can

>>214704272
So, it sounds like a You problem then. Go be more interesting.

These dues selling delusion in the form of anonymous post

>>214704917
Times have changed
I know you mean well anon but my time has passed
Godspeed

>>214704985
"qui bono?"

>>214691410
the faggiest post in this whole thread

Good thread, boys. Some helpful advice and catharsis was had.

>>214691410
why not just charm an 18 year old high school senior?

>>214689278
You're a pussy AND a faggot for caring that much about a girl you dated at 16.

>>214700101
libs my balls lamo