Is it the best time travel movie?
>>214727587I enjoyed this one. I don't think it's the best though I don't know what that would be. Certainly not "The Time Machine" with Guy Pierce wink wink.
Triangle is the best, dont watch the trailer or read anything else. Underrated kino.
Hot Tub Time Machine
a better one will come out in 10 years
>>214727587No. It's really impressive for a project that like a $4000 budget though.
>>214727657t. ime traveller.
>>214727671
>>214727628>We have Back to the Future at home.
There was that one really cool moment that's worthy of a big budget movie. I forget the rest of it. Also, the guy who made it immortalized himself just in time before he lost his amazing looks.
Yes, and Shane was very talented and was very creative, i wish things were different for him
>>214727587it's dogshit
>>214727587i still don’t get the part with his father in law having a nose bleed
>>214727587When will Shane Carruth come back to the industry? 'Primer' shows he only needs a few thousand dollars to make a film, plus his writing and acting abilities. Imagine having the power to bake yourself an equal to all working kino stars. Imagine being Shane Carruth.
>>214727587best at what? at time travel or at being a movie?There are a lot of time travel fimls that are better than OP's. 12 Monkeys, Back to the Future, Looper, Terminator. There are a shitload.
>>214727587I wish Shane would go back in time and tell his younger self not to fight his girlfriends so he'd still be making kino.
>>214727628kino
>>214728049>Looperno, that time plot falls flat on its face
>>214727899His father in law used the time machine.
>>214727587absolutely not, 12 Monkeys is the best time travel movie by far. BTTF is a far 2nd place.
>>214727587>Is the best time travel movie in your path.
>>214728096funnier yet is Carruth was a consulting producer on that film
>>214728354>isekai
>>214728506gesundheit
La Jetée
*AHEM*
>>214727587No that's 12 Monkeys
Single day loops are time travel movies
>>214728354>still has a black woman as part of the medieval european nobility
>>214728304i watched 12 monkeys last night, kinda frustrating to watch not gonna lie.
>>214727587I think my favorite time travel television and film is Dark, since they managed to wrap everything up in a very satisfying bow for me by the end of it. But I very much enjoyed OP's movie and I'm going to read the rest of the thread and see if there's some more shit for me to dig up and watch
what are some good time loop movies? picrel is still my favorite so far.
>>214727587I fkn hate the OP movie with a passion.It's as moronicly pretentious as the space pen joke it tells.https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-nasa-spen/As for the best, anything from the OG to I need to know now, Can you love me again?
>>214727792you're right, Shane>>214727884
>>214729696oops didn't mean to quote Amy
>>214729572agreed. reddit midwits equate boring with intellectual. It's just a mid movie
>>214727587Unironically its the time travellers wife with Eric Banner and Rachael McAdams
>>214727611Underrated
>>214730174Yeah nobody here has seen it. Which is funny cause this is where I discovered it years ago. Solid low budget time travel "thriller". Maybe no one cared cause it's Spanish or something.
I like the first half of Primer for reasons completely unrelated to the time travel plot. It's just really comfy. Something about a bunch of engineers bickering back and forth about how to build something while Shane's soundtrack plays in the background is really nice. I wonder if this is what it was like to be one of those small game development teams back in the 90s.
>>214727611>shitcrimesThis movie is not good. The only way it makes sense is if you decide that all main characters are so stupid that they’re bordering on a mental disorder. Here are my main complaints:-There are plenty of time traveling plots where the premise is that the main character time travels, makes mistakes that lead to bad outcomes, then tries while ironically failing to do something differently. Not this guy. He INTENTIONALLY does the terrible things for NO OTHER REASON than because he knows future him did them. (Ie: hmm I saw this lady naked and unconscious before I got here, and nobody else is here, guess I’d better sexually assault her to make sure it happens again!)-You get a huge gash in your forehead, do you decide to wrap a bandage around your ENTIRE FACE because of that? But how else can there be a creepy mysterious guy with a bandage around his entire face in the movie?-Woman stops to help a guy in a car crash, then decides to walk into the woods with a stranger for no reason. After being sexually assaulted by a man who crashed in a car on the side of the road, she immediately rushes to help another guy who also just crashed in a car on the side of the road.-The scientist just lets this idiot run the show and tell him how things are going to go. You’ve just majorly fucked up by using a time machine with negative consequences and a complete idiot is now telling you what to do. You just passively allow him to make these terrible decisions without getting involved at all?I thought it was lazy story telling, unbelievable characters, and a cliche plot that doesn’t even use the premise well. I have. I idea how it got the ratings that it did, other than that people prefer their time travel movies to be dumbed down.I will never understand why it gets posted alongside primer despite not being nearly as interesting and cerebral, just a fucking waste of time. There's only so much writing to be excused for the sake of the plot
>>214727628dude why does it lookk like porn? i'll check it out though since i like time machine movies
Underrated kino
>>214727587Why did Shane have to go szhizo?
>>214731313any movie where a fat kid dies is kino
>>214731358I blame Hollywood. That place breaks down the purest of souls.
>>214731610>>214731358Is there any actual corroboration to go along with the accusations people made against him? I keep trying to dig up what happened and it sounds like everyone is completely going off the word of his ex who claims he was vaguely "abusive" in some way
>>214727587Sure the science and scenarios are sound but fuck me if it isn't a fucking slog to get to the time travelling already
>>214731989>it happens again with a different ex"Ha ha, whoopsy-poopsy."
>>214729549Fairly certain that Triangle is one of the worst loop movies.Tons of plot holes in that one.Watched it once years ago and I still remember the Axe being completely nonsensicle in its timeline.
>>214731989I've only heard rumors about the ex. Mainly I remember when he blew off on some broad on twitter using the official account for his Upstream Colors movie. There were threads on /tv/ sharing his tweets live of him asking for a foot massage and calling her a cunt or something.
>>214732058>Takes about half the movie to get to any actual time travellingI kind of liked that honestly, it sells the idea that they really did invent time travel completely by accident.
>>214727587Pretentious crap.
>>214731989>>214732103I personally saw Shane's incoherent melty on Twitter on his public account way back. Doubt the posts are still up tho. Dude was not alright
>>214732089it's entertaining which is what I want in a movie. all time loop/travel movies always have plot holes if you think about them hard enough.
>>214730999Isn't that movie British too? I never wanted to see it
>>214732537Thats cope m8.There are 2 kinds of loop movies.Ground hog day and Donnie Darko.The first cant really have plot holes since there is no causality, only the second can.And you choose a poor example of the second.Try to find said holes in picrel.
>>214732476I'm kind of disappointed I missed out on this, although back then I probably didn't know who Shane was yet>>214732658What I never understood about this movie is that the main character knowingly fucks herself and should, in theory, have all of the information she needs to determine what happened like halfway through the movie, but it's presented as though the pieces of the puzzle only come together in a huge revelatory moment right at the end
>>214732658>ask for recommendations>get told example is shit>defend example>get recommendationyou could have just suggested the movie from the get go instead of making me neg you for it. I will check it out nonetheless and make a new thread if i spot any glaring plot holes.
>>214732476>>214732871It was majestic.
>>214729066Correct.
I liked Frequency with Dennis Quaid and Jim Caviezal.
>>214733334Ah yea I wanted to say he admitted to battering women but my memory was hazy. Honestly this just seems like a pathetic cry for attention rather than a confession
>>214729066ngl this movie was badass
>>214727587leftiod brain
I remember this one only because of the midgets. Not something you see often in movies as a kid. Definitely not the best (The Time Machine) though.
>>214728895based>>214729066Just catched Edge of Tomorrow here on TV in my country .. and I'm wondering.. is there any more movies with this 'repeating the same day' theme? Not as good as Edge of Tomorrow for sure.. but gimme some suggestions.I love time travel movies .. and this theme is sort of time travel ..
>>214727995He beat the shit out of his gf, he’s never coming back
>>214733531>the gas sign in the backgroundKek I love shane posting
>>214734367ground hog day
>>214727616This, watch Triangle.
>>214733741>pathetic cry for attention*fun oversharing
>>214733741Yeah this anon >>214734592 is right. It was based for shane to finally call out everything that's been bothering him
>>214727587It might just be the best movie, in general. And I usually dislike talk movies, jargon movies, what a twist movies, 2deep4u movies, open to interpretation movies, ends with no satisfying conclusion movies, low budget movies, indie passion project movies, and most importantly things recommended and obsessed over by gay faggot 4chan.But it really is that good. The music version of this surprise would be the Protomen, by the way.The book version would be Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.
>>214729132It was a different time.
>>214734811True - it is definitely one of the best movies ever made and potentially the best ever
>>214730999>He INTENTIONALLY does the terrible things for NO OTHER REASON than because he knows future him did themthat's the point, anon
>>214735215the point is retarded and shouldn't be held in any regard amongst time travel movies
>>214729132nearly the entire movie is him hallucinating as his brain shuts down from hypoxia caused by drowning
>>214730318it's shitthe script is shit
>>214727587Maybe not the best, but the most realistic one for sure.
>>214727587No.
>>214728354Run and tell that.
>>214734367Boss Level. But it sucks even though Carnahan used to be awesome.
>>214736617Explain the gladiator pit ending
Triangle sucked
>>214733334i miss when people could infer sarcasm on the Internet
>>214727587Complicated means clever. Great work.
>>214729203Why is that?
>>214737458That was made illegal in 2011.
>>214734367Tru Calling or Early Edition. Kino tv shows.
>>214727671Heh
>>214730999>I will never understand why it gets posted alongside primerI don't think anyone but me does that. And I'm pretty sure I've only done it twice now, this being the second time. God you really fucking hated that film. Sorry.
>>214728049>12 Monkeys>LooperLol. Lmao.
>>214734367A handful of Star Trek episodes did good stuck-in-a-timeloop stories, some /trek/fag might have the specifics
>>214737548
>>214734367This was pretty good,protagonist had to resort to doing some horrible shit to trigger a time loop in the first season
>>214737474just Cole being a retard from the getgo, also why didnt jose blast the scientist at the end too? he fucked off out of no where too. how the fuck was cole also able to zip back into the future as well?
>>214732658I don't know about specific plot hole in this onebut the story is ridiculous, it's for low IQ people, once they revealed she had a baby and becomes a man, any one with an above average IQ should be able to predict he will be all the characters of the movie
>>214737514you know this place and the whole world keep existing when you're sleeping?
>>214732658The Fizzle bomber has newspaper clippings from alternate timelines suggesting he can change the future, other than that it would be a perfect closed loop
>>214737768>just Cole being a retard from the getgoThey state in the film a few times that time travel fucks with your head and you get confused to what is real and what isn't. Among the first lines in the film is Cole and Jose talking about how the volunteers don't come back to genpop and they're all crazy/locked up somewhere.>also why didnt jose blast the scientist at the end too?Jose wasn't there to stop the virus. The virus had already been released into the airport before Cole and the doctor saw the scientist and tried to stop him. Cole himself states earlier that if he finds a pure sample of the virus, then a scientist will be sent to analyse it in order to find a cure in the future. That's the lady who sits next to the scientist at the end and says she works "in insurance" (she's too old to have survived 30 years into the future to brief Cole when he first starts time travelling so it's clear they sent her back to study the virus). They were never travelling back in time to stop the virus from ever happening (they even talk to Cole about getting addicted to that dying world when he comes back and he's confused). I think it's the old destiny vs free will argument. Child Cole was always going to see his older self getting shot in the airport. Even if some events can be changed (like inspiring Brad Pitt's character with the 12 monkeys name or appearing in a WW1 photo), others (like the virus) can't be changed and will always happen. >how the fuck was cole also able to zip back into the future as well?The volunteers had trackers in their molars. They could be zapped back to the future. They do it to Cole when he's tied to the bed in the asylum, again after they fuck up and send him and Jose to WW1 and finally when he's in the river getting chased by police. They can't zap him back after he removes his teeth (just like the rambling stinky homeless guy mentions). Jose also asks him why he fucked around with his teeth since he had a pardon in the future.
>>214738156The lady who sits next to him at the end is the boss in the future
>>214738156so thats why jose didnt tell him who to shoot when he handed him the gun? idk maybe im missing something it looks like a lot of shit happened to get to that stranger ending. were they the biuggest retarded scientists sending an even bigger retard into the past? was it just a coincidence kid cole was there or did the scientists know?
>>214734367Any 4chan board.
>>214728895This film was amazing in Spanish, one of the few cult classics on the airwaves.
>>214738275Yes. The scientist who runs (or is running with the other scientists) the time travel program would be best suited to gather info on the pure virus once it has been found. The call made by Cole at the airport is how they know in the future that the 12 monkeys group isn't responsible and to focus on the virologist and his crazy son. >>214738285>so thats why jose didnt tell him who to shoot when he handed him the gun? I think so. He only manages to find things out because he's influenced by his dream/memory as a child. It acts as a sort of anchor. Because of that you could say he was destined to find out and then get shot. Cole was first chosen because he was disposable (antisocial behaviour etc) but had a good memory. The people in charge wouldn't have given a shit if his suit got punctured outside and he then died from the virus. They also didn't give a shit if he went crazy from time travelling at first. It's only when he finds some useful info that they start treating him nicely. He wakes up in a comfy bed with a big beautiful painting and music and he gets a pardon. At that point the scientists themselves say that he's the most qualified because of his achievements and start briefing him in detail (the names of the cities where the outbreak happened). Then there's also the detail of the book the doctor wrote. If she wrote it in the past then the scientists should have access to it in the future and see that the doctor interacted with one of their time travellers.
>>214737451Fuck you. What didn't you like?
>>214738571>It's only when he finds some useful info that they start treating him nicely. He wakes up in a comfy bed with a big beautiful painting and music and he gets a pardon. At that point the scientists themselves say that he's the most qualified because of his achievements and start briefing him in detail I think what frusterates me is the movie has a STRICT almost cruel rule of>nope everything youre seeing is part of this strict timeline and everything is fixed. ww1 transport? yea that was suppsoed to happen. 1990 and is interaction with Goines? uhhh yup, fixed. kid cole seeing everything happen, must be a hell of a fucking coincidence from the scientists POV bringing in this literal who thug, but hey fuck it, fixed!I guess it was the directors intention to fuck with us but idk, from the scientists POV I guess their behavior was fixed too? at what point does this get lazy I mean cmon
>>214727587It cant be the best when you need to watch diagrams and explanations on internet to fully understand what happens in the movie.And dont come telling me "filtered", cause the movie DOES NOT explain everything in it.
>>214738285>were they the biuggest retarded scientists sending an even bigger retard into the past?You have to take into account that the population was wiped off and they live like worms trying to prevent the virus from getting underground. I'm guess the scientists are they best they have on hand. Cole was disposable. Why risk wasting precious resources (the scientists) by sending them back in time (and maybe going insane afterwards) if there's a chance that they'll find nothing? They're already wasting food on antisocial fuckups, just send one of them.>was it just a coincidence kid cole was there or did the scientists know?I think they didn't know at the start but might have pieced it together after sending Cole back a few times and him slightly altering some aspects of the past. For example, they could have access to Cole's asylum medical records from the past and read about his dream or the book the doctor wrote.
>>214728304came to say 12 monkeys, focuses on people within the time travel story rather than get bogged down with paradoxes and heroes fixing events and all that shit
>>214738604Too drunk to spoiler right. [Spoiler]everything. Ugly main actress. Boring kill scenes. When the film starts she hugs rich guy and says Im sorry, implying she knows what is coming. But when they get on the boat she pretends to be oblivious and discovering thinga for the first time
>>214738689kinda hard to make things stick to this one rule of "the past cant be changed, everything is fixed". I guess theres 0 point in asking "why cole? why did the scientists fuck up twice in sending him to the wrong places? why waste time with cole and goines if the scientists knew he was going to tell goines about the monkeys?" looks cole had a predetermined role in this.it reminds me of The Leftovers where the director kind of makes a point where "shit just happens: the show" but we're supposed to believe the main character survives be buried alive with posion inside and and being shot multiple times as a case of a guy with some uncommonly strong constitution.
>>214734367Happy Death day is a good one.
>>214738821Dont watch the sequal
>>214738687I am here to tell you "filtered"I didn't get ALL of it but I got most of it first time 'round. I will admit to watching an explanation video after the fact but I didn't really get much of it, most of what was being "explained" was really just wild guessing at what happened off-screen. It's obvious in many cases that SOMETHING happened but impossible to say exactly what it was, which I think is intentional to add a mystery aspect to the movie. I think it's better that way, too.
>>214738816>why did the scientists fuck up twice in sending him to the wrong places?Cole states that the process hasn't been streamlined and things can go wrong. They also send Jose to WW1 by mistake. I've seen a theory that states the scientists were in on it and wanted to prevent Cole from stopping the virus. That's why she offers the virologist champagne on the plane at the end and the insurance line is referring to insuring that the virus gets released. I don't think it makes much sense. She's there as "insurance" in the sense that she either gets infected with a pure form of the virus and brings it to the future or talks to the virologist about it and brings that info to the future. Cole swallows a bug in order to try and bring it back to the future.
>>214739039That's fair, what I cant stand is people claiming they understood it all on their 1st viewing withut needing any other outside information.
>>214727995Carruth is never coming back. He hated working with a low budget, which is why he tried to get two huge projects financed. And despite Fincher's and Soderbergh's support, nobody wanted to produce them. He fucked up big time. He had a huge crash out on Twitter and he posted weird shit on Vimeo. He was also abusive with two of his girlfriends. It's absolutely over for him.
>>214739047I guess I just dont respect the directors rule of a fixed timeline. Zero reason to discuss the why's and hows. Feels like a classic directors narrative handwave rather than something interesting. I guess the point is us watching something inevitable unfolding before us in frustration? idk
>>214739137I guess it depends on how the director explores it in his film. There will always be paradoxes everywhere with these types of films. In one of the back to the future movies the main character travels back to get his parents back together. If his previous antics in the past led to his parents not meeting, how does he exist anymore?
If time loops count
>>214739382Wtf is a horror-szenario?
Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel is an okay movie. Not the best but it has some fun time travel bits in it.
>>214727587Based Shane
>>214728626
>>214729549Triangle takes the cake IMO. Edge Of Tomorrow is a close second.Nothing beats Steins;Gate, however. It's like Primer without >>214729572.
>>214734367You should try Ground Hog Day it stars Bill Murray
Terminator I & II qualify
>>214738741Retard
>>214740110There's nothing pretentious about that joke it's just a very common folk joke that people mistake for true sometimesSteinsGate is a literal trooned sloppa
>>214739615Ayy let's play uno dunkachino
>>214740243Not specifically the joke, but the entire movie. Deliberate obfuscation and red herrings to "add mystery" in a narrative that's already nonlinear isn't a clever directorial decision, it's a cheap attempt to add additional depth that wasn't needed, at the cost of legibility.S;G has its own problems, but no one comfortable with their masculinity is gonna chimp out too hard at them. At least its narrative structure is unabashedly straightforward.
>>214740243There is some truth to it. NASA and the Soviets both used regular pencils at first, then grease pencils when they realised graphite dust is a real PITA in zero-G/microgravity - the latter of which did work, and I THINK are still used occasionally. Truthfulness notwithstanding, it's still a good story, at any rate.Fisher space pens are really fucking good, incidentally. I'm a mechpenfag, I absolutely hate writing with pens, and even I respect them. I'm gonna get my pops one as a Father's Day present or something someday.
>>214734367Groundhog day is probably the objective best day-loopn film. It's a classic, where Edge of Tomorrow is more like a 9/10.
>>214734367watchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVooyfaPYD8
>>214734367Groundhog DaySource Code
>>214729066>>214734367I just watched this on a flight yesterday after neglecting it for so long. It was alright, but I couldn't help but feel they didn't use the gimmick to its full potential.Finishing people's sentences because you are looping and have seen every outcome will never not be kino though.
>>214740480>>214740664Pic is a better time travel story than all of these despite being anime.
>>214740493That was kino anon, thanks.Repeating a day would be nice but an hour would be rough. Hardly enough time to rob a pharmacist and get high before the hour resets.
>>214740799Unfair tho, it has an entire season to explore like four or five different types of time travel
>>214729549Not a movie but this is the best time loop TV series I've seen in a long time.
>>214740944For a more fair comparison it's also better than Dark, or at least far more enjoyable.
>>214728049>Looper This nigga is retarded, everybody point and laugh!
>>214741276Why? It's a good movie, certainly better than it has any right to be.
>>214727995The problem is that he wasn't willing to continue with modest budgets, his vision for his new films required a large budget and total creative control, but he hadn't established himself enough to make those demands.And that's before the domestic abuse accusations and him seemingly losing his mind.I don't think he'll come back. I wish he would, but it's very unlikely even if he wanted to.>>214728366Ruin Johnson did hire him for that but ended up ignoring all his advice. Nothing about Looper is Shane's fault.
>>214737655Never saw any promos for this.
>>214740799S;G is weeb slop. I'm not even talking about the time travel, it's moot because almost every character in the show is insufferable.
>>214741402How? A man has a leg cut off 20 years ago, and loses it in real time, mid stride. This is time travel for retards and you just self reported that you are one.
>>214742028>Nooooo it can't be fun and action movie because I'm delusional enough to believe there is a scientifically sound form of time travel!I'm going to travel back in time and stomp on your balls so you start feeling it right now
>>214730932Part of its greatness is that it's just comes off as realistic what might happen if a couple of fags accidentally invent a time machine for real in many ways:>how they could invent something like that>how they would talk about it>investigate it>have to prove what they're saying to the other fag>come up with ideas at of how to use it>have personal motivations to use it, fuck the other guy over, build multiple machines and send those back, build the failsafe, etc.The way they would figure shit out logically and create multiple secret loops is a nice contrast to the usual movie thing with characters doing stupid illogical things just to keep the plot moving.I also like it because I can appreciate the low budget at the same time as watching it and I'm just as impressed by the production itself. Same thing with 'Cube' where you know the entire movie is being shot in one 'room' while still being involved in the story where it's supposed to be one of many in a vast 3D maze. I love that shit.'Upstream Color' is worth watching if you haven't seen it. It's a little harder to follow at first and has some odd elements, but has the same level of comfy where you're just watching fags playing their part. Would have liked to have seen 'A Topiary' and 'The Modern Ocean' for the same reason, such a pity.I don't even believe allegations from women at face value or media reports these days - especially in 2016 of all years. Wouldn't shock me if bitch made allegations to fuck over his career and the injustice of it drove him nuts, or made him appear crazy. Prove me wrong. PROTIP: I barely give a fuck. What has his personal life got to do with him making kino. Literally not my problem.
>>214734367>catched
