you realize you're old when you start to think Lois was a good mom
you realize you're old when you start to think Lois is more fuckable than Cynthia and Jessica
>>214738509mommy issues
No she wasn't she was shit as fuck. Constantly did dumb shit to embarrass malcolm like cleaning his pants in front of the entire school. Put all this pressure on malcolm "to rescue the family" while also stealing his money grant. all while ignoring dewey who is also just as talented as malcolm. and all these because she decided to have a shit ton of kids when their income doesn't support it. like dumb bitch can't into birth control, and now she shits out kids into a poverty neglected home?
No, she was a fucking bitch
>>214738406Not old, just retarded.
>>214738509Let's be honest I always had a mommy fetish even as a horny kid
>>214738406>you realize you've been mind broken by your own narcissistic domineering psychopathic mother when you start to think Lois was a good mom
>>214738406She's horrible desu. She admits she was awful to Francis and treated him unfairly which undoubtedly fucked him up, she constantly sabotages Malcolm, either tortures or ignores Reese and when Dewey confronts her about her sabotaging him she says, "so what?"
>>214739218My mom literally ruined my life, and everyone says its on me and Ill take responsibility for my part. But I have never seen someone that doesnt want me to succeed and move on with myself and life more than her.
>>214739262Sorry to hear it anon, hope you're away from/cut contrast with her. Every normie I've ever met just can't convince of a mother being a worthless toxic cuntbag. I think a lot of it is bullshit women good/men bad media brainwashing.
>>214739262Literally just rape and or beat her into submission Women love that shit your shit moms are no different
>>214739380Lol spoken like a true pussyImagine never standing up for yourself and slinking away like a coward Not defending our moms actions but you not a man if you don't oppose them openly
>>214739380It sucks when you tell your story and they point the finger at you, and its like they dont understand. They never will, thos shit happens in the movies to them, not irl. And when they see it, or deal with someone that has been through it they want to shake their head and ignore it.
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>>214739236>when Dewey confronts her about her sabotaging him she says, "so what?"That episode was horribly out of character and had Hal sabotaging Dewey as much as Lois.
>>214738406She was hot
>>214739446Pretty close
>>214739472there's 3 or 4 episodes where the parents are written to be absolutely evil and it always felt like someone misunderstanding the characters they were writing
>>214739446Only one version, it isn't monocausal
>>214739472Just like my mom, "oh, I fucked up your life? Oh well".
>>214739408Kek. What the fuck do you think children can do against growth adults? Toxic parents don't listen to reason, social services are a joke and courts will send any children old and strong enough to do something about it to jail.
The thing that sucks the most, when Id have chances to move on and/or improve she was always in the way of those things. Then shed lie to family, family friends, doctors, therapists, psychiatrists, and really anyone who helped and sided with me.
>>214738406the older I get the more I hate lois and people like her. the show should have ended with her dying realistically in a housefire like asmongold's mom
>>214739446>tfw I just realized this is me
Lois was never held up to be the voice of reason, she is as much shit and the source of conflict with the rest of the world as her husband and sons. Her mother is an awful monster much worse than her and Hal was cut out of the family wealth for marrying her so it’s not like she is burden free
>>214739262After turning 18, 20 at most, maybe 26 if you were forced at gunpoint to study some shit you didn't want, and even thenAfter that point, you are a fully developed adult with an adult brain, and, if your mom didn't chop them, with arms and legs fully developed as well.Your parents give you life, and give you opportunity.EVEN if they give you 0, and it's entirely possible that they did, you start on 0.At 26, you can start on 0. But YOU start.If you are at 27 at 0.29 at 0.35 at 0, that's on you bro. YOU needed to start at some point. Even without a headstart that your parents should provide.
>>214738406a mom that doesn't care at all isn't that much worse than some dumb bitch who cares about all the wrong things.
>>214738406I wanna go balls deep in her as she yells at me
>>214738406>goodNo. She cares about them and is trying her best, and when the boys do terrible shit you can definitely understand why she gets pissed and freaks out, but she definitely isn't a good mom. Don't know if I'd necessarily call her a bad mom either, but she's about as flawed as the rest of the family.
>>214738406yes and no. if they were good parents her boys wouldn’t act out the way they did in the first place. I have 3 brothers and we didn’t do nearly half as much bad shit as they did in the show >have less sex >lives improve substantially in every aspect They were selfish
>>214738509for me it was the drunk chick on Thanksgiving or the rich girl from Reese drives
>>214740862It’s not a matter of head start vs starting at 0. You are set way behind. You start at at -55. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. I will never understand people like you who think a child with terrible parentage can somehow grow up to be functioning adults without a borderline miracle. Do you not understand how important parenting is? I’m not the anon you’re responding to and yes, you’re partially correct. It is the adults responsibility to fix their life regardless of parentage. But what you’re talking about is a straight up bootstrapping mentality. You remind me of something my old GP doctor once said about people’s view of mental illness being “all in your head”. He said “do they tell people a broken leg is all in their bones?”
>No Malcolm you can’t earn 500k right out of highschool because you need to be president to help irresponsible welfare FUCKS like us!also Malcolm was too socially retarded to ever be president, he simply isn’t likable and that’s kind of the entire point of the whole fucking show. He was always a mathematics/numbers guy and never once was shown to be political
>>214741080You are incorrect.I do understand what you mean, because I have a mentally disabled relative.And not down' syndrome, mentally disabled, those are the functioning ones.I mean one of the non-functioning ones.It doesn't matter how hard life is, or how bootstrapped you think you can get, no. You are not that bootstrapped. You are an adult, nommatter how much you think you are a social toddler, you are not.You think you are, I believe that.I equate the people you talk about (maybe you) with trannys. They THINK they are that bootstrapped mentally, they FEEL emotionally like they are. They through tantrums that looks like one, even! But they are not.Because you then get back to playing videogames or watching movies, like how the tranny can piss standing.You live in the shell of the mental bootstrap, but you are not bound by it.
>>214741080Another thing is imagine having to bootstrap in today's economy on top of not being guided to succeed.
>>214739612Bitch please I was physically bigger and stronger than my parents since I was 15 and they were in their 50s
>>214741080>Old GP doctorWell, he's a dumb fucking cunt because if he could remember anything from medical school he'd know that clean breaks and joint replacements are encourgaed to get on their feet and walking as soon as possible/comfortable.N matter how crippled you may feel, an individual who is by-in-large healthy physically needs to start walking step by step. That also means leaning on other and having the humility to be a little vulnerable in the beginning to start it. You don't have to rely on your bootstrap alone especially when starting but you've got to be the one putting the most effort into it
>>214741198>I stop reading your tirade two or three sentences in when I realized you dont even know what “bootstrapping” is. As I said you have no idea what you’re talking about.
>>214739176Your problem is that you watched the entire series and didn't notice that the characters become completely different halfway through.
>>214741290I responded to your first post here >>214741302 Mr samefag
>>214741198No shit Sherlock, but recovering takes a lot of time, maybe the rest of your life for some really unlucky people.
>>214738406She objectively wasn´t>B-But the boys...Yes, her sons are all kinds of awful but she is also a self-rightous, jealous, hypocritical control freak. The pic in your post is actually a great example of that, where the she gets TOLD off for being entitled and thinking the world moves to her whims.Or the episode when some college counselor tells her to her face that she is a loser who wants to live her delusions of importance through Malcolm.Or the episode where she sabotages Dewey because she cant handle her son being successful at something while she is a loser.
>>214738406No, you're just dumber now. There are several episodes that show Lois' approach to raising them is toxic, like when Malcolm stops arguing with her and she notices she's the who instigates most of the time.>>214738509No, you just have worse taste. Jessica is way more attractive even with the frumpy hair and terrible personality. The most attractive girls is that one babysitter that had a crush on Francis and asks to talk to him on the phone.
>>214739446Bretty much me desu. I only managed to (mostly) unfuck myself around the time I started working at the age of 23. Before that I already had few moments of clarity. Slowly realizing everything my parents taught me was useless bullshit and the best way to not become a total failure is doing the opposite.
>>214741451>Taught me useless bullshitCurious, what kind of things?
>>214738406Not quite, she was a retarded delusional NPD case (but going by those boundaries she actually DID try her best I genuinely believe). I will say that just because Hal is likable he gets way too much of a pass, he never kept Lois under control at all, and was a more literal ADHD retard
>>214739176She also literally sabotages Dewey
>>214741504Basically, being a passive retard and then lamenting how unfair the world is. There's like a hundred sub-categories here, but that's the best summary.Mom's like this to this day. Dad died in the meantime. Actually, he somehow managed to fuck up everything he touched, so I wish he'd be more passive after all.
>>214738406MITM is peak boomer deflection. These two parents, strict-yet-loving, have four boys that are inexplicably delinquent terrors. No rhyme or reason why, they're just good parents who happen to have troubled kids.
>>214741669Damn, alright. Any examples?I was asking as my parents already went through some tough times before I was born so they knew that life is what you make of it.Hope you're able to break out of that thinking and have a good life.
>earliest memories are of my mom teaching me how to play video games>all dad did was work, eat and watch golf before he died (spent his entire retirement fighting cancer, all 5 years of it)>didn't learn how to drive until 19 and didn't get my own car until 21>they took care of me, but never taught me any real skills or helped to guide me into doing things I was interested in>they wondered why I turned into a fat nerdy shut in that didn't want to get a job and has problems connecting with other people
>>214739380>sorry to hear it...Stop that reddit bullshit, faggot.
She's meant to be insufferable. They're her kids, who act the way they do because they have her genes. Yet she freaks out at them like they're alien. But at the end of the day, she's just a mom. Specifically a boy mom. >>214738509Doesn't do it for me. But on my rewatch, I did quite enjoy how horny Lois and Hal are. Forgot about that aspect of the show.
>>214741774yes we were you fucking retard. people your age never HAD kids, our (early 20s) parents are all well over 65 at this point too
>>214741743>Damn, alright. Any examples?Believe me, it'll look petty as fuck if I'd list those now. So just imagine something like>Anon, why aren't you doing anything all day?>Anon, stop wasting your time doing something.>Anon, can't you pick up something useful?>Anon, why are you asking me what's useful? I'm tired and busy.And put shit like this is a loop for years. Absolutely zero usable guidelines mixed with constant discouragement, while demanding I should be better at pretty much everything. Like living with two schizos. Looking back it feels like I was raising them. I admit, I did a shitty job, but to my defence - I was a fucking kid.
>>214739446This is so fucking annoying. EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME I TRIED TO TAKE INITIATIVE AND DO SOMETHING NEW IN MY FORMATIVE YEARS MY FUCKING CUNT MOM AND DAD WOULD LITERALLY SCREAM AT ME AND TELL ME THAT IT WOULD BE A WASTE OF MONEY AND THAT I WOULD FAIL (started playing guitar / golfing etc) BUT AT THE SAME TIME WHEN I FUCKING ASKED ABOUT INVESTMWNT ADVICE IT WAS "YOU SHOULD SAVE YOUR MONEY AND NOT INVEST THAT WAY YOULL HAVE IT AND WONT RISK LOSING IT" ONE TIME I FELL ASLEEP NAKED I GUESS AND MY MOM WENT INTO MY ROOM AND SAW ME AND THE NEXT MORNING SHE SAID "YOU HAVE A REALLY SMALL PENIS" AND LAUGHED IM MY FACE THANKS MOM COOL THANKS FOR FUCKING FEEDING ME PROCESSED FOOD AND HAVING ME DRINK TAP WATER MY ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE WITHOUT DOING ANY FUCKING RESEARCH "HONEY I CANT BELIEVE YOU DRINK SO MUCH ALCOHOL WHY DO YOU DRINK SO MUCH WHY DO YOU DRINK EVERYDAY??!" GEE I DONT FUCKING KNOW MOM CAN YOU ALSO GUESS WHY I CANT TALK TO WOMEN CONFIDENTLY
>>214741756they tried. if your main problems are being a fat nerd with no skills and bad at socializing, good news you can improve all of those things. Do a little bit every day. Don't get impatient, dont get autistically obsessed and then burn out. Set the bar low and keep getting over it.a good place to start is going for a walk every day.
>>214741756>all dad did was work, eat and watch golf before he died (spent his entire retirement fighting cancer, all 5 years of it)This isn't your blog. Nah, I'm just kidding lol - most of what you said resonated with me. My Dad worked hard my entire childhood, and provided well for the family despite not having much time to spend with us. He's 63 now, just about to ease into retirement... got diagnosed with Leukemia. It makes me so angry that a man can work that hard all his life, with only the hope of retirement at the end of it...
>>214741992Dicklet seething lmao
>>214742029>they tried.I fucking hate this saying. Parenting books are available. Did they read any? Nutrition books are available. Did they read any???? NO. they did what they are accustomed to. What their parents did to them. Thats quite literally the opposite of trying. But anyways.. youre right about the exercise stuff. Him being a fat fuck is his fault unless his parents force feed him lmao
>>214741966>Why are you asking me what's useful?Yeah, that's just bad parenting.Appreciate the insight, it's interesting to see the hand other people get dealt.At least you know to do the opposite if you want to be a good parent
>>214742121Its not even small dude. Multiple women have told me its the biggest they've had and I measured it. I delayed having sex for years though because I thought I had a micro penis and then it turns out im above average. Its just a grower not a shower. Anyways, I am seething.
>>214741992lol chill out fag
I was hoping this would be the milf thread, but it’s just a bunch of autistic losers crying about their mothers
>>214741756That's the most normal sounding childhood I have ever heard lol
>>214742153My grandmother did something similar to me. I was just out of university looking for a job, and she sat me down to list my strengths and weaknesses. She literally wrote them down on a pad of paper.She said "you are very handsome, so that's a strength. But you have a small penis... not like your grandfather, his is quite large. I used to be a nurse, so I've seen all kinds". I just sat there stunned. "it's... uhh.. grown since we used to have bath time when I was a literal infant..."
>>214738509Let's not get ahead of ourselves>>214741436You sound trigged. Which is ok. But there are a few episodes that show Lois was a sweet and gentle parent before Francis who was a genuine hellspawn and it turned her into the taskmaster she is especially after Reese and Malcolm added to the chaos. She has unique children and she's become a good mother to deal with them uniquely.
>>214742265Yeah. Also gramps didnt consume microplastics and various hormonal impairing chemicals in the tap water supply while growing up.
>>214738406Meh, she did what she could with the trashfire she had at home. Let's see you deal with two actual psychopaths, a smartass and a retarded husband all at once. And Dewey was there.
>>214741756anon you were 19-21 years old when he died? You’re a grown ass adult. At a certain point yeah it sucks they didn’t guide you through childhood but you have to take take personal responsibility. You have the internet. Teach yourself. The problem is you’re a lazy fat nerd not because daddy wasn’t there
>>214742129being a fat kid is the parents fault. being a fat adult is your own fucking fault
>>214742458she failed as a mother for letting her children get that bad in the first place
>>214742581Exactly what I said. I made a joke saying "unless his parents force feed him"
>>214742615I didn’t mean to sound like I was disagreeing I just quoted you and made a general opinion sort of related to what you said
>>214742600They were natural born freaks, she should have aborted the whole batch.
>>214738406No, she's a cunt.
>>214742581You know weight doesn't magically disappear right? Its the parents fault for making children fat and that doesn't stop until they grow up enough to get away from the parents and have an opportunity to overcome what the parents caused. But if parents aren't tards and ensure kids get in shape, they'll never have to lose weight or overcome anything.
>>214742794Yeah hes underplaying the habits built over years and the consequences they have into adulthood. It really sucks. You have an impulse by nature of being the child of your parents to put an inherent trust in them which could delay personal growth or development via doing your own research and making your own decisions. Its so important to be a good parent.
>>214741992post micropenis
>>214739526>there's 3 or 4 episodes where the parents are written to be absolutely evil Hal stealing Malcolm's credit card to pay for a skiing vacation after lying to his family all day was incredibly low down but then the very next season he and Lois then steal $10k Malcolm has been awarded in a grant which Lois eventually blows on a doll house. That was so horrible on so many levels.
>>214739446This post hurt.
>>214741257I blamed my mother for my failures too in my teens and 20s.I got over it grew up. It's on you losers
>>214738406man thats the most retarded take someone forcing you to be miserable and struggle when you could just make a good life for yourself isnt a good parent: its a loser who wants you to stay a loser.If I'd been Malcolm and she fucked up my chances to have a good life, I wouldnt make it easier for "people like them" if I made it big: I would legitimately fuck them over again and again.She was just ass fucking mad that there would be a point in life where she could not control his every step and thus had to fuck every chance he got to enjoy life just in case he managed to heal his trauma and just leave them in the fucking dust.
>>214738406She was dealing with 4 really unruly boys who constantly got into trouble while working and taking care of the house and food
>>214743297At least in those episodes they're aware they're doing something terrible and trying to rationalize it in their minds. In the Dewey episode they deliberately try to break his hands before a piano competition and when called out on it they're like "So?"
Reminds me of my mom, she was almost always right and had good intentions but the way she spoke was so loud and abrasive that it was hard to take it in so lightly
if you can't control your temper you're not a good example for your kids
>>214743756Acting like it's no big deal that you're sabotaging your own child's chances of success is contemptible but stealing $10,000 from your child is incredibly low. I don't think trying to rationalise it makes it any better at all. Murderers often try and rationalise their crimes and it doesn't make what they've done any less horrible.
>>214739262If she’s that awful, then there’s nothing wrong with cutting her off and moving on. Then you’ll have the opportunity to achieve some success or continue to fail. Either way, it will be in your hands.
>>214738406Lois literally did nothing wrong.
>>214742209Came in expecting a malcolm thread instead of literal group therapy for people with shit parents, but Im glad for the anons who could find help. Bad parenting is one of the worst vicious cycles mankind suffers from.
>>214741272it's way over before you reach 15. that does explain a lot about you though
>>214738406she was awful as were most from this erahome improvement being another that pops into mind
>>214741198for your sake i hope you don't have children. it's better to be childless than hated by your children. but i guess someone has to continue the cycle of being a destructive and abusive retard so you go get 'em champ!
>>214739446I learned to never talk to my parents about my plans or ask them any advise at all. They always sabotage me or try to demoralize me. We have a good relationship though, but I cannot trust them with anything that has to do with my life.
>>214743562Yeah, instead of a loser you grew up to be a cunt instead.
Lois is the kind of woman that makes Livia Soprano look like a nun.
>>214741992Justified spergout. The fuck kind of mom talks shit about your dick?
>thrust into a society of outdated and unachievable boomer standards with a dating pool as contaminated and gross as the Ganges, while all of your time, effort and money go towards making pedokikes comfortable>haha just grow up bro
>>214742129Most parenting books are useless and half of the lm written by people who don't actually have kids.Parenting books come in two flavors: >>The "be your kids friend" type that are touchy feely and tell you to emulate Leave It To Beaver or Gilmore Girls>>The spare the rod and spoil the child type which at best teaches parents how to weaponized stoicism (a favorite tactic of abusive parents, since it keeps kids from reporting abuse) and at worst teaches parents to be abusive and controlling while unironically telling them that it won't blow up in their faces so long as you utterly break your kids souls
She just feeds me beer and junk food, dont leave baby stay my baby dont leave mommy please dont leave mommy>shows up at the place I rented slam drunk at 9pm to give me a fucking nightlight
>>214745353I was more pissed about the fact she drove drunk, the nightlight thing did piss me off tho. I'm the car, crying about how we lost the house and everything, shes living out of a hotel, and there was no empathy from me.She was the one funding it too, I wish I could have walked in the house and spent thousands of dollars and even their retirement money. Me, I wouldnt have used it to get high and my dumbass dad getting hooked again and throwing an almost $100,000 job a year away that mostly went down his throat, nose, or in his lungs. I was the one trying to fucking run away from this, and got pulled right back in.
ITT: a bunch of absolute faggots who don't understand MitM is a comedy show.
Was Hal just a beta provider?
>>214738406Gay
