Why do people think the Moon Landing was faked, directed by Stanley Kubrick? What is it about space travel in rockets that make people call bullshit? I've never seen anyone doubt planes can take off, or that rockets can use liquid fuel, or even that you can communicate with others wirelessly.Like I've seen people say "how did they talk to the astronauts, did they drop a phone line?" but I've never once seen anyone doubt the fact that pilots can communicate with air traffic control.
>>214763423Kubrick worshippers would eat his turds as they slipped out of his tightie whities. Kubrick went senile and claimed he helped make the shots/compose the set when we have multiple technologies developed specifically for the landing. It's an ego obsessed creative mentally breaking down and then not understanding that you can't claim credit for something provably not related to you.
>>214763423The lander looks like something a crack addict assembled in an alley behind the dumpsters from garbage.
>>214763423Watch operation avalanche
>>214763759it's not designed to look pretty.
>9 years to go from "can barely orbit" to "land on Moon and back">everything works first time out, no major failures, against backdrop of Cold War humiliation if fail>astronauts travel 3 days into the void, supposedly calm, no trauma, no breakdowns>Armstrong and crew perform like superhuman leaders, but barely speak of it afterwards>Collins alone in orbit, minimal comms with surface, no real leadership interactions recorded>astronauts also somehow expert cinematographers, perfectly framing shots of first steps and lunar ascent antenna aiming, comms quality, TV broadcast all work flawlessly despite supposed low-power setup and 4 mile off-target landing>original high-quality video “lost,” only grainy copies off monitors survive>NASA keeps all physical evidence locked up, disperses small “gift” samples worldwide, 90% unaccounted for now>Chinese Chang’e rover does X-ray spectrometry in 2013, finds dramatically different elemental composition than Apollo samples>Apollo samples consistent across wide sites, Chinese tiny site vastly different>von Braun and Apollo scientists just happen to visit Antarctica in 1967>Antarctica = prime place to collect meteorites, including lunar ones>Antarctica maps censored, heavily restricted access, perfect place to quietly source lunar material>missing rocks + tightly controlled access + anomalies = too many “coincidences”
>>214763829You think a hunk of garbage can survive rocket exhaust, G-gorces, radiation, atmospheric re-entry? I remember someone who allegedly worked there said they were afraid to drop a screwdriver or a wrench or something because it would rip through the aluminium foil - oh, excuse me, the *ahem* "hull".
>>214763838>everything works first time out, no major failures, against backdrop of Cold War humiliation if failThere were 11 previous apollo missions, each meant to test various stages of the moon landing... Astronauts died in the first command module.
>NASA says comms were mission-critical>but LM comms antenna had to be manually aimed at Earth by Armstrong in a space suit>somehow instantly gets perfect signal, no dropouts, no “aiming delay” despite light-time lag>supposedly real-time data sent back to Houston: oxygen, batteries, telemetry, astronaut biometrics>all of it monitored on Earth, not directly between LM and CM>astronauts themselves had no “direct survival comms” between each other, Houston is middleman>Apollo 11 transcript shows almost no Eagle/Columbia chatter, just Houston relays>after 7 days in microgravity + 21 hrs on lunar surface + violent re-entry>astronauts appear in good shape, calm, speaking to Nixon same day>no signs of trauma, exhaustion, or even the awe of people who saw Earth from space for first time>Armstrong retires quietly, rarely talks about it again>recovery period after Earth orbit flights normally = days to regain health>Apollo astronauts = superhuman recovery, straight into press conference, no weakness shown>telemetry data all under NASA’s control, third-party stations (like Jodrell Bank) allied with US during Cold War>no fully independent auditing of raw data>original tapes “lost”
>>214763423Because it is true. Kubrick did produce and direct the video of the Moon landing. Being obsessed with accuracy and detail, he insisted they actually go to the Moon to film it.
>>214763863Do you realize they didn't fly the whole mission in the Lunar Module? That the Lunar module attached to the Command Module and the Command Module is what they used to fly home?
>>214763943The thing couldn't survive a strong wind. Get real.
>>214763896>somehow instantly gets perfect signal, no dropouts, no “aiming delay” despite light-time lagIt doesn't get perfect signal, that's why we heard "It's one small step for man", not "one small step for a man">astronauts appear in good shape, calm, speaking to Nixon same day>no signs of trauma, exhaustion, or even the awe of people who saw Earth from space for first timeSo? They literally trained for this. >Armstrong retires quietly, rarely talks about it againMaybe he just wasn't a spotlight whore.
There is a huge problem with how all information is presented. People with talent don't make infographics and documentaries. Hacks do that.If you have questions about the moon landings the information is hard to find and when you find it the information is presented poorly by people who don't actually understand the information.There is no one on this board who could explain to you how the lunar lander fits into a rocket and how it separates from the rocket. No one can explain the actual science of how the lunar lander is capable of lifting off the moon and how it gets back to earth.You have a few stupid people who think they understand and they will get very angry when challenged, which only feeds the skeptics. You argue with someone who presents himself as an expert in rocket science but when pressed they don't know anything about it, so you go ''aha! it is a hoax after all!''Probably the best way of understanding it is would be playing Kerbal Space Program, but that game is boring so most people don't bother.
>>214763866Apollo 11 was still the first time the entire mission profile was attempted start to finish. Never before had they landed on the Moon, operated on the surface, and relaunched to dock in orbit. Testing pieces separately =/= proof it all works seamlessly on the first integrated run, Apollo 1 fire killed 3 astronauts in ground test which shows how dangerous even the “early steps” were. Yet somehow Apollo 11 has no catastrophic failures in actual lunar landing despite razor-thin margins. Fuel down to seconds, antenna aiming, manual landing off target, ascent never tested outside sims and perfectly framed by camera positioned manually with manual timing mechanism to capture it all flawlessCompare to Apollo 13: one random tank blows and the whole mission is nearly lost, and yet Apollo 11 = picture perfect, historic TV broadcast, clean re-entry, healthy astronauts on camera hours later. Not saying “no testing was done,” just that testing doesn’t explain why the riskiest, unproven parts worked flawlessly first try. Sure could just have been a perfect mission, but plenty to be suspicious about and physical mental health of astronauts combined with their post mission press conferences along with how critical success doesn't sit right
>>214763973Strong wind on the moon?
>>214764012Good point, I can't claim to understand it. I do have this resource https://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/main.html, with a bunch of the documentation of the apollo program. A few people talked about the communications, I saw on that site that the communication was a combination of satellites that relayed S Band radio signals to earth. I keep mentioning time and time again the Lunar lander never flew much beyond going to and from the earth.I never see people doubt how those heavy ass all metal planes full of hundreds of people can fly in the sky. I think because they see it with their own eyes.
>>214764014>just that testing doesn’t explain why the riskiest, unproven parts worked flawlessly first try.Stuff went wrong, Armstrong had to pilot the module manually iirc, the computer didn't work correctly. And you're missing the fact that they all did test these stages. Apollo 10 flew all the way to the moon, released the lander, then without touching down, reattached the lander to the command module, just to test the lander's ability to descend and ascend. Apollo 11 obviously came after Apollo 1, so clearly the engineers were able to learn from and correct their mistakes. It was no where near a perfect mission. And those astronauts undergo training to adjust to those conditions in the first place.
>>214764096what kind of training exists for a 7-day round trip into literal void, with no atmosphere, no landmarks, no escape hatch? minimal sleep, microgravity wrecking your body, plus constant stress that one wrong move = death. Earth orbit missions before Apollo? pilots came back physically drained, sometimes barely able to walk, and those were much shorterlook at extreme expeditions on Earth - Everest climbs, polar treks, solo ocean crossings. Explorers always return damaged: frostbite, lost fingers, weight loss, trauma, months of recovery, but Apollo crew goes through the most extreme expedition in human history, return through violent re-entry, then within 3 weeks they’re in a press conference looking like they just came back from a business trip.No visible trauma, no exhaustion, no breakdowns, just calm suits at a desk telling the story of “man’s greatest adventure”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI
>>214763423Cope from asshurt vatniks still mad they lost the space race.
>>214764186Astronaut training, dingus.
>>214763838>>everything works first time outThose were the days of White America. Keep seething thirdies.
>>214763838>Chinese Chang’e rover does X-ray spectrometry in 2013, finds dramatically different elemental composition than Apollo samplesQrd?
>>214764687>2013, China lands Chang’e 3 rover (Yutu) in Mare Imbrium>rover equipped with alpha-particle X-ray spectrometer>analyzes local rocks + soil composition in situ>finds elemental profile with way higher chromium, yttrium, zirconium, titanium, etc. than Apollo samples>Apollo missions brought back hundreds of kg from different near-side sites, all broadly consistent>Chinese rover samples = massively different despite tiny exploration area
>>214763423The problem is that plebbit Neil deGrasse Tyson types just "believe the science" and wont even entertain obvious fucking questions about it.That's why I like these guys:https://www.youtube.com/@theapollodetectives/videosThey do shit like ask why when you put the same type of Kodak film the NASAfags claim they used to take photos on the moon in a vacuum chamber it demonstrably degrades.No matter what you believe should you just be expected to trust NASA when it comes to obvious questions like, how can a battery from 1969 run all their shit for all that time? How did they have enough resources in their backpacks to do extended moon walks? How did they get in and out of the LM and their suits multiple times and repressurise without leaks when there's moon dust sticking to literally everything, including the seals on their suits and the LM door? How come the radio antenna on the moon rover that's pointed back at Earth doesn't lose transmission when they go over a bump and points in a different direction outside the stated tolerance?A fucking kindergartener could ask these obvious questions and they'd still try to shut him down as a 'Moon Landing Denier' instead of giving him a fucking answer. Doesn't that at least make you wonder?
>>214763423>I've never seen anyone doubt planes can take offPlanes are fake They just go along the ground
>>214763759Looks solid to me
>>214763863>atmospheric re-entryThis was the reentry module. Looks solid
>>214763423>What is it about space travel in rockets that make people call bullshit?Retards don't bother to question it but midwits get a bee in their bonnet because they can just barely grasp the outline of what's going on but they're still too stupid to understand it well enough to where they don't make fundamental mistakes when forming a model of what's going on. The biggest tell is how wound up they get when they have to think about how thrusters work in a vacuum.
>>214763423That's NOT "what took men to the Moon".That is merely the Lunar-Lander, which was inside the Rocket on the way up and was literally left behind when they journeyed back. The Saturn-V rocket is what actually carried everything to the Moon & back, including the crew AND the Lunar-Lander.Literally all the Lunar-Lander ever had to do was get men safely from the Rocket to the surface of the Moon and then launch them back to it again.
>>214764742They didn't bring any rocks back and all their instruments were made by and operated by Chinese.
>>214763838>9 years to go from "can barely orbit" to "land on Moon and back"Nazis can do that
>>214764742It's almost like Luna is pretty big, and samples from far apart could have different compositions.
>>214765039sure, but Apollo landed at 6 different sites spread across the near side - highlands, maria, volcanic plains. All their samples broadly matched each other in elemental composition, then Chang’e 3 checks one tiny patch of ground in Mare Imbrium. Chang finds chromium, yttrium, zirconium, titanium levels 3–5x higher than anything Apollo ever reported. This isn’t a “different shade of basalt,” it’s a totally different geochemical fingerprint, Apollo somehow missed that much diversity across hundreds of kilos from multiple sites
>>214763423Planes -are- fake. They project holograms onto the sky to fool people.
>>214763735Kubrick did film the moon landing.He was just such a perfectionist that he had NASA actually film it on the moon.
>>214765794This is the real answer.
>>214765039Oh shit. The commies have us surrounded!
Broke>The Moon-Landing was fake. This is why the footage of it often looks "fake" & contains inconsistencies.Woke>The Moon-Landing was very real, but the footage of it is fake. During the Apollo 11 Mission something went terribly wrong with their recording set-up and the footage was either ruined, accidentally erased or otherwise rendered unusable. Unwilling to deal with the ridicule & skepticism that would result from admitting that sheer human incompetence present within the United States Government had ruined the global-public's ability to observe such a historic event play out, the footage was hastily but meticulously reconstructed in a US Air Force hangar in Arizona and then presented to the public as the actual, original footage. This is why the footage of it often looks "fake" & contains inconsistencies.
>>214763423Because civilians have an extremely low IQ and have zero clue about how to disassemble their car's engine, let alone know anything about aerospace engineering.
its an attempt to denigrate the acheivements of white people
>>214763838>everything works first time out, no major failures, against backdrop of Cold War humiliation if failRetard, it was called Apollo 11 for a reason.Apollo 1 literally resulted in the crew being burned alive before the rocket even launched.
>>214764014Should I believe Apollo 11 was the publicity fake and Apollo 13 was a sincere attempt?
>>214765190yeah i trust the 1 erroneious result over the 6 that were the same thats just common sense
>>214765039Wtf, did puerto rico land on moon?
The Apollo program was real, but the government prefers people to believe it's fake rather than them knowing what's up there
My dad was down in DC working at Goddard Space Flight Center in the 60s and got a bunch of amazing Apollo posters and magazines. I got him that Lego Saturn V rocket one Christmas and said we'd build it together. Sadly we never got around to it before he got sick and passed.
>>2147634232001
>>214766183It was a joint mission between Puerto Rico and Poland
>>214764186>what kind of training exists for a 7-day round trip into literal void, with no atmosphere, no landmarks, no escape hatch?The training they went through before going on the mission. These weren't just random people anon. That vid you posted is within 3 weeks, I see the comments pointed out that they don't seem too enthused to be there, so perhaps they did suffer from negative effects of the journey.
>>214764879>How come the radio antenna on the moon rover that's pointed back at Earth doesn't lose transmission when they go over a bump and points in a different direction outside the stated tolerance?There were multiple satelittes that relayed that antenna signal, usually an antenna that pointed towards the command module exactly. I know moon dust was a serious problem and it did some damage to the equipment, not enough to cause problems to the mission. I like the questions you ask though, I'll give you that.
>>214764186American astronuat training
>>214766060these results have been peer-reviewed and cross-checked outside of China, including in Nature Comms + PNAS, the APXS instrument itself was validated against Earth samples before flight. Dismissing the data out of hand because it’s inconvenient = not skepticism, that’s blind faith. I’m not saying “case closed Apollo was faked,” I’m pointing out discrepancies that are argued deserve scrutiny. If questioning details is copium, then hand-waving away contradictory evidence is the exact same thing>>214766011yeah, exactly - shows how dangerous and error-prone the program was even before launch. Apollo 1 wasn’t even a lunar mission attempt, it was a plugs-out test on the pad and they still lost the whole crew. If anything, that proves how thin the margins were and how many ways things could go wrong, which makes it even more insane that Apollo 11 was the first time anyone actually tried the whole “land, survive, relaunch, dock, re-enter” profile and somehow it all just worked flawlessly start to finish. That's comms, cameras, fuel margins, rendezvous, re-entry. Apollo 13 shows what happens when one subsystem hiccups: total mission crisis, but Apollo 11? picture-perfect historic success under global pressure
The moon landing was real but it was performed by stunt artists
>>214764979exactly. The lander was attached to the command module and the command module is what returned to earth. The massive rocket was only needed to escape Earth's gravity, the moon's gravity was no where near as strong.
Space is fake but the Moon landing was real, they landed on Heaven
The Moon landing was possible due to superior natsoc engineering.
>>214766400>, which makes it even more insane that Apollo 11 was the first time anyone actually tried the whole “land, survive, relaunch, dock, re-enter” profile and somehow it all just worked flawlessly start to finishTell me what the point of Apollo 10
>>214766400>Apollo 11 was the first time anyone actually tried the whole “land, survive, relaunch, dock, re-enter” profile and somehow it all just worked flawlessly start to finish.Anon, Apollo 10 did all what Apollo 11 did except landing, in fact, the Apollo 10 Lunar module was under fueled because they feared the crew would ignore orders and go for landing.The mission that actually took balls of steel was Apollo 8, where they went on a Lunar flyby despite previous missions being merely tests on Earth orbit.Apollo 8's success was what made NASA get bold, until Apollo 13 humbled them.
>>214766564exactly what i'm saying. it's like people don't realize there were apollo missions before Apollo 11 to test the various stages of the moon mission.
>>214766435https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjDEsGZLbio
>>214763423My grandad saw the Moon landings live on TV and he says that in the footage he saw Neal Armstrong was being filmed coming down the steps from the lunar lander FROM the Moon's surface.My Grandad never lied in his life so answer me this:>How was it possible to film Armstrong's first steps on to the Moon from the surface of the Moon?Either it was all done in a studio or they filmed in a studio first to use as a back up plan if anything went wrong.
>>214766620ok, physical conditions of crew from returning missions 7-9 all with nausea, vomiting, severe head colds, several days of recovery. 10 and 11 the longer missions and all within the same year, these were much better physical condition at the end. Another coincidence to add to the list I guess that the longer, more arduous, mentally demanding missions, the better condition you return in. 11 also the only mission to have additional 20 hours landing on surface with mission and life critical communications that were not only untested but also single points of failure. Plenty of reasons to suspect something, not to mention the lack of third party auditing of telemetry data (outside stations could only confirm carrier signals, not decode the telemetry itself)
>>214766978The camera was attached to the Lunar module.>>214767041The Soviets did. Luna 15 was launched precisely to make sure the Americans weren't lying. All they could do was congratulate them.
>>214766978>>How was it possible to film Armstrong's first steps on to the Moon from the surface of the Moon?It's crazy the film studio crew didn't account for this, real amateur hour!
>>214767088>The camera was attached to the Lunar module.If that were the case why didn't the lander fall over because of the extra weight putting it off balance (this was the 60s cameras were huge).Also how did the camera and the film in it survive the trip and the radiation?
>>214766400You're comparing 6 samples to 1 and saying the 6 must be wrong because it doesn't support your hypothesis
>>214767170A combination of the Lunar module being 16 tons and that it landed vertically.>Also how did the camera and the film in it survive the trip and the radiation?The camera was within an aluminium casing to shield it, look at the pic.
>>214767170kys retard go read wikipedia if you're THIS ignorant
>>214767213nta but I'd rather trust the Chinese. Can trust the Americans about as far as you can throw them.
>>214766252Cool anon. Now open the Japan Korea box
>>214767088the soviets had nothing to gain from shouting fraud especially after their own mission crashed into the surface. Who would have believed them if they did say this was fraud? They failed in their mission to retrieve samples in order to compare with the US, they had nothing else to go on apart from the carrier signal
>>214767041>How come the later missions improved on things that went wrong in the earlier missionsI guess it will always be a mystery..
Pic related is my favorite psyopThey really want you to believe that boomers could just fly from New York to London, in two hours, fifty years agoBut you can't anymore because uhhhh reasons, they just made planes slower when they got more advanced lolThe best part is there's 2.5 million "eyewitnesses" who claim to have made that impossible flight when it was "in service"It's a lot to ALL be shills and liars, so I presume they were sedated, or perhaps the plane traveled through a wormhole in the Bermuda Triangle that spit it out near HeathrowThe best part? The Soviets tried to replicate this (after all, it's a long way from Moscow to Vladivostok) but as soon as they built the same plane it exploded on the runway because it's physically impossibleI can't wait until we get to the bottom of this
>>214767832https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-144
>>214763423Dude, they brought a fucking car to the moon and there's no engine or gas tank on it lolMaybe people in the 60s were fooled by this but I'm not
I feel like the fact we stopped going to the Moon made people question if we ever even went at all. Like you had that whole narrative of the Moon Landing being something that would lead to the City of the Future with Jetpacks and Flying Cars and Moon Bases that never materialized because all that shit is fucking expensive and the Moon is a dead dusty ball not worth doing anything with for corpos beyond enabling tourism for billionaires.
>>214768027>I feel likefacts don't care about your feelings
>>214767926kek they still run that psyop todayI saw one of those "Tesla" thingies parked and the fag who owned it foolishly opened it up in public, showing that there's no engine or gas tank in thereAbsolute CGI car
it's crazy to think that we've become so stupid as a country that we don't even believe the things we did 60 years ago are possible. in another 60 years people won't think microwaves are real. >HOW BOX MAKE FOOD HOT? NO FIRE IN BOX!
No one has visibly detonated a nuclear weapon in thirty-three years in spite of it being a near weekly event from 1945 to 1992
>>214768204coincidentally, I've seen people start to claim that nuclear weapons are fake
>>214767926Its electric you nonce. Each wheel has its own motor.
>>214768204Wow its almost like some big moment in history happened at the end of 1991 that made nuclear bombs less important.
>The government lies constantly to cover up all the awful shit they do.>But you can believe them in this one instance that makes them look good.
>>214768290...the smells like teen spirit video?
We're really supposed to believe that people, in the fucking 1800s, just built a railroad from New York to California in six yearsMeanwhile in reality after 17 years of work, the railroad from Los Angeles to San Francisco is less than 10% complete
>>214767832It was financially not feasible you retard. You can earn way more money by stuffing huge planes up to the brim with passengers but those are way slower.And it was 3-3.5 hours for a flight.
>>214768381>It was financially not feasible you retardHow convenient.
>>214768320>in the fucking 1800s, so: less government "red tape", better work ethic, no internet to distract you, no communists telling you that your employer was stealing you labor so you should "quiet quit" or whatever the fuck, no unions demanding mandatory break periods and this and that. it was almost certainly much easier to get things done back then.
>>214768320>the railroad from Los Angeles to San FranciscoI love reading old Wikipedia revisions on thatThe Half-Life 3 of railroads
>>214768311The thing is the people that would have benefitted the most from the Lunar landing being a hoax, the Soviets, confirmed the landing did happen.You need to go through a lot more hoops to explain how it was fake than it being real.Doesnt help that people who claim it was fake are ignorant of even the most basic things, such as the fact that Apollo 11 was not the first attempt, that there were another five landings, or how it was filmed.
>>214768311I don't think there's a single person who credits Big Government with the Space Program.
>>214763423I know pretty much nothing about the Kubrick shit, but I know that there is an argument some people make that the Moon landings were not only fake but that the Soviet Union was in on it and that the entire Cold War itself was just a ruse and a distraction. Just for the record, I believe in fakery from NASA and other space agencies but I still kind of believe the Moon landings happened. It's probably just wishful thinking and cope on my part that I want the coolest achievement of all time of the white man (and one that makes non-whites seethe to this day) to be true. Right now I'm kind of leaning into the theory that we were already on the Moon before 1969 and that all of the subsequent Moon landings by NASA exist only to hide a secret space program far more advanced than any of NASA's shit that NASA shows to the public. I think there's all sorts of artificial things on the Moon (towers, domes, buildings, etc.) and probably none of those artificial things are ours and whoever those artificial things belong to isn't friendly. Don't let the jews misdirect you. Think bigger and think outside the box."We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity..... Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do." - Ben Rich, Lockheed Martin
>>214768515People lived in the ruins of Rome and looked at the aqueducts and amphitheaters and imagined gods built them
>>214768443they could justify that for more black budget fundffs stop being stupid for once."BOSS, THEY GOT THERE BEFORE US, WE NEED MORE FUND, ITS 100% REAL, BELIEVE US AND SEND MORE MONEY"
>>214763863>atmospheric re-entryLOL this nigga retarded
>>214768241Where's the battery? With how big they are on modern EVs i can only imagine how big they'd be in the 60s.
It's honestly a funny time for this schizophrenia to return because these four are reenacting Apollo 8 just 6 months from now
>>214768540I know and I think humans from our futuristic past built the artificial structures on the Moon.
>>214768400You being retarded is actually an inconvenience for everyone who isn't you.
>>214768806Very optimistic of you to think this is actually going to happen (and only 6 months from now at that).
>>214763735Kubrick never claimed to have faked the moon landing you mong.
I have a fondness for what Jeff Bezos's rinky little toy spaceship actually does>you get to relive Alan Shepard's historic 1961 spaceflight>except back then it cost NASA $2,200,000,000 to put him in space for 15 minutes>now it costs $5,000,000 to put Katy Perry and William Shatner in space for 15 minutesThat's genuinely futuristic, we've got wonders ahead of us if we can scale it forward ten years
>>214763838You don't know how white we used to be.
>>214763423Kubrick fully admits to making the moon landing through the film “The Shining”. There’s a good documentary on how Stanley pulled it off. There’s Shining is actually about Kubrick himself he even changes the main character to look like him and age into him as well by the end of the film. It’s way too obvious if you pay attention and they killed him because eyes wide shut was subtle enough for the agencies. They killed him and fucked the movie up You fags need to understand that this is about if the Americans made it to the moon or not, the footage is fake 100%. The USA probably did go to the moon, that’s cool, but everything they recorded is 100000% not real.Period
>>214763423van allen radiation belt wasnt known about prior to moon landing. somehow they magically nagivated it and accounted for the radiation and survived with no issues despite meticulous planning required for all space flights today, even with unmanned launches.
>>214763896>>no signs of trauma, exhaustion, or even the awe of people who saw Earth from space for first timeArmstrong had been in space over a decade earlier while piloting the X15, and had spent a full day in orbit during Gemini 8.
>>214763423>I've never seen anyone doubt planes can take offProbably because they're not taking off from the moon? You realize they had to literally launch a manned spacecraft from the moon and then safely land it on earth for this to work, right? Using 60s technology. Yeah that's a bit of a stretch to believe actually, sounds pretty mental.
>>214763423Because we haven't been there again --- oh you mean we went there and landed men there like 16 times?Because we don't have the technology anymore? We are in a space race to land on the moon with China right now and also have plans to make a moon baseAlso its a lie that only the USA has space technology when Russia landed a spacecraft on Venus in 1978.People just have a hard on for hatred of our government.
>>214763999>Maybe he just wasn't a spotlight whore.More to the anons point, there were plenty of astronauts who did try to live off their apollo fame. So many astronauts tried to sell postage stamps they'd taken to the moon as a gag that NASA had to specifically outlaw it.
>>214763759Yeah according to some retard online (you)
Radiation
>>214769629Landing a spacecraft is easy because you're taking off from a big comfy launchpad on Earth with 100s of people servicing your rocket making sure it's just right. Going back from the moon is the part that's hard to believe, where you have no launchpad and no personnel to fix whatever broke when you landed.
>>214763423If they really landed on the moon 56 years ago, they should easily be able to pop up there at will, over and over, by now. That's the same time frame from when humans first figured out how to fly to when they landed on the moon (allegedly). Moon travel now, if this progress is to be believed, should be about as much trouble as catching a bus to the shops. They are absolutely full of shit. Anyone thinking they really landed on the moon at this point is a fucking mouth breather.
>>214765794BAZINGA!!!! This. So. Much. This. Shut up and take my updoot sir!
>>214768381Part of the reason for it's lack of financial feasibility was that supersonic aircraft aren't allowed to fly over most of the US. It could only fly to New York.
>>214769499The Van Allen Belt is deadly to linger in, not travel throughProtected by 7mm of aluminum, you'd receive 20 rads per hour in the beltThe belt is 12,000 kilometers thickA Saturn V hurtles toward the moon at close to 40,000 kilometers per hourFor comparison>you get 1 rad from a CT scan>10 rads a year is considered a "safe" industrial job>at 200 rads you start shidding and vomiting and will probably get cancer within a decade>at 500 rads you start bleeding out of orifices and have a 50% chance of death but like any illness or injury your odds are better if you're gigachad>at 1,000 rads you have a 99%+ chance of death>the Japanese guy with the unfortunate name who spent 83 days in the hospital, slowly melting and begging for death while doctors applied every life support known to man, was exposed to 1,700 radsI hope this illustrates why flying through it would be fine but building a space station within it would be a really, really bad idea
>>214763423One thing that I think is cool is that they think Stanley Kubrice is so goddam awesome that he could pull it off.
>>214769770The problem with popping over there whenever we want is that we're now carrying a hundred million useless brown mouths that weren't here in the 1960's.
>>214769770Up the thread somebody made the point that people used to fly from New York to London at 1,354 miles per hour but now 50 years later nobody exceeds 614 miles per hour
>>214769807How many rads do you soak up on a transoceanic commercial flight?
>>214769841Nobody does commercially but the military does it all the time. The Concorde went broke, the tech it used worked fine though and still does.
>>2147698690.01Note that this is not an insignificant number and being a pilot or flight attendant who does this constantly is a health hazard in and of itself
>>214769897Do flight crews keep track of their exposure? Is there any sort of safety regulations that make them retire after a certain amount of flights?
it's literally babby's first conspiracy theory
>>214765039>we come in peace for all of mankindTake me to your dealer ahh quote
>>214763423There was a 2002 mockumentary called Dark Side of the Moon in which the filmmakers managed to get some very high profile political figures to play along including Kissinger and Rumsfeld.This film included that Kubrick theory as well. There's very obvious giveaways throughout but I can tell you that many people were fooled by this and treated it as an actual documentary.
>>214769770Money is the answer.If there's potential to make money out of it, people will be there.What money is there to make out of a ball covered in dust?Getting to the Moon isnt hard, its just expensive and you get nothing in return, and due to the Soviets not keeping up with the US, there wasnt a political motive anymore either.
>>214763863That thing doesnt have to withstand neither G forces nor atmospheric reentry.This shit is why people dont listen to you, because you dont make any points, its obvious you dont believe the Moon landing isnt real because you have a low IQ.
>>214768433>Merced to BakersefieldCrucial meth pipeline, vital to the state's industry. Such a fucking joke
>>214764186>what kind of training exists for a 7-day round trip into literal void, with no atmosphere, no landmarks, no escape hatch? minimal sleep, microgravity wrecking your body, plus constant stress that one wrong move = death.You select pilots among people who are not pussies.
>>214770697If it makes you feel any better, the very first tracks on the Merced to Bakersfield line that was scheduled to be complete in 2019 will be hammered in December 2026Assuming of course that there are no further delays
it's simple. just send some fucking people to the moon. prove us wrong. instead we get >the technology was lost >we destroyed the data and then indian landings that look like they animated it in powerpoint, and the chinese probably mining the dark side of the moon
>>214771875China is scrambling to get boots on the moon by 2029 in accordance with the Third Plenary of the 20th Central CommitteeThat might sound like nonsense to you but sino autism will require them to kill themselves to get there
>>214764014>Never before had they landed on the Moon, operated on the surface, and relaunched to dock in orbit.No shit, that's literally the definition of the first lunar landing
>>214771964>Broadcast of Chinese lunar landing>LiveLeak logo appears in corner
>>214772092>>214771964>I guaranteed that I would put a man on the moon, and I did. I never promised anything about "bringing him back" or "landing him in one piece"
>>214771964Apparently it is no longer about boots. I've heard the new space race is over who can build a reactor on the moon first.
>>214764879You ever worked on a project over many years, facing different problems each week, but when it's over and you look back you can't remember any of it?I expect all those challenges you mentioned were encountered at some point and solved some point after, and if you can find the specific handful of people to ask about it you might get an answer, but ultimately a project this large had 1000s of things going on at any one point, not all documented, and most of it not even mentioned since
>>214771875Why would you believe another landing was real any more than you believe the first?
>>214763919Kek
Reminder that it's not just the US vs ChinaTwo rival coalitions to colonize the moon have formed and this map is real, not from some shitty Alex Garland movie
>>214767832The noise of this thing used to make everyone shit their pants
>>214772208it would be impossible for NASA to pull off another fake. sure india and china can do their shit and put out whatever propaganda, but for the US to actually claim "we're landing on the moon" the amount of eyes examining every little step would be insane. it's literally why we haven't gone back, it started to get too hard to fake
>>214772262Uhh who's this
>>214764014It is pretty remarkable what a team of white men supported by Nazi research and a government willing to spare no expense can accomplish. Nothing like that can happen nowadays though, which is probably why conspiratards like yourself think it is impossible to achieve.
>>214772324Thailand provides emotional support ladyboys for both sides
>>214772262I hate that in any coalition ever one side has to take India and the other side has to take Pakistan
>>214772262Blue absolutely mogs red and it isn't even close.
I made it to the Mun within an hour of KSP. Really fun game.
>>214769564He was also a 33rd degree Free Mason so can we even trust him?
>>214772262I can't help but notice one side already did this once already. The race comes from the fact that everything related to the Apollo project is obsolete and has to be redone from scratch.
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