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>First Star Wars movie in 6 years
>literally zero hype
What went so wrong?
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>>214765226
>pedo pascal
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>>214765226
Book of Fat Boba and Season 3 ruined it completely and utterly. Instead of taking risks, developing characters and advancing the stories forward, they undid all of that and decided to just make pure slop to sell baby yoda plushies.
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>Season 1 was decent
>Season 2 was an extended trailer for several spinoffs
>Season 2.5 (Book of Boba) was awfulç and undid the end of season 2
>Season 3 was awful I don't even know how it ended since I couldn't get past the Jack Black and Lizzo episode
I don't think I'll be watching this movie.
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>>214765226
>”we’ve got a plan to make a movie about the literal only two ST era characters we haven’t fucked up
>so we should tread on eggshells to make sure we don’t ruin them, right boss? We won’t use them as a springboard for some other character’s spin off, right?
>…what was so funny?”
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>>214765226
Probably over a decade of running it into the ground so badly one of the biggest media franchises of all time turned into pushing some dudes OC filled fan fiction
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>>214765226
It has nothing to say.
It's just bumping toys against each other.
Lucas injected his genuine political opinions into Star Wars. Even if they're dumb they're still a real artists vision.
Disney products are made by a shareholder committee of dumb old people who don't care about the end result as art they wanted to make, but only as a thing that makes money.
Un-woking it isn't going to fix it, you need to dissolve the giant media companies so culture can move past the ideas we created 20-50 years ago.
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>>214765226
What didn't
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>>214765226
i watched the trailer out of curiosity. i have no idea what the movie is about, it's like a fake trailer. it's just a bunch of things that happen without any perceivable coherency. look the at at's are back.... again.........................
but to answer your question, no one fuckin cares. star wars over exposure to push disney+ subs has killed any excitement rational people would previously hold for the franchise. the cynic in me would say they are doing the mando movie now to try to capitalise on pedro pascal's current stardom
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>>214765279
Isnt that a level from that Star Wars N64 game?
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>>214765784
Here’s the plot
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>>214765226
Just admit you don’t like any kind of westerns, even if they're set in space, you tasteless capeslop consoomer.
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>>214765862
They won't even connect it to the Thraw shit from the Ass Sucka show?
I don't know if this means they have no faith in this movie or no faith is Ahsoka.
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>>214765872
This does not look like a western. In fact, this does not even look like a real movie. This looks like ugly bland streaming slop for manchildren that exists only to sell baby yoda plushies.
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>>214765279
It was also because they realised too late that Yeed going with Luke put him at ground zero of space columbine.
Since everyone knew full well that they would never kill off one of their few good merchandise pushers, and since it came off a scene where Luke acted like a Jedi, people started to wonder if this was the prelude to a retcon. Disney panicked at the idea of this idea gaining traction and pushed the reunion forward far too early.
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>>214765226
Season 3 was kinda bad and the movie trailer looks like it's made for tv. The creatures in the trailer look more like muppets than ever, to the point where it breaks immersion. Contentwise, nothing of substance in the trailer to draw you in. Various clips of "hey, remember this?", a painful "hey, ain't this funny?" scene with Sigourney Weaver and Grogu and a amazingly hare-brained climax scene with AT-ATs walking up a narrow mountain road, where they have no business being. The poster making it look like the trashy movie optics are intended as a 1940s pulp series doesn't make the end product look any less awkward. "Somehow, the Razor Crest returned", or even worse, it plays during a time period where the Razor Crest wasn't destroyed yet, making the movie effectively filler content.
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>>214765226
They slaughtered the golden goose and told the fans they didn't need them. Franchise is dead. There will never be hype again.
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>>214765226
>multiple entire seasons of television about
>the mandalorian
>and grogu
>together
>HEY LETS MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT THE MANDALORIAN AND GROGU TOGETHER WE CAN CALL IT
>THE MANDALORIAN AND GROGUE
>...
>WHY ISN'T EVERYONE CHEERING?
If I had a time machine, telling George not to sell to Disney would be in my top 10 agenda items.
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Star wars is mostly a dead IP for many people now outside of ideas like Andor. Also Mando crashed hard in quality.
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>>214765226
They probably shouldn't have make both trailer and poster into Grogu merch ad.
I'm not going to watch SW for 2 hour long as shit.
Disney execs should literally kill themselves right now.
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>>214765226
>What went so wrong?
Star Wars has been dead for over a decade.
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>>214766260
>If I had a time machine, telling George not to sell to Disney would be in my top 10 agenda items.
What would be the other 9?
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Disney destroyed the brand by shitting out almost nothing but unwatchable woke slop for ten years. No one gives a shit about Star Wars anymore.
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>>214766336
Jerusalem around the time of the resurrection. Stopping WW2, no idea how or what date i'd pick, many options there. Dinosaurs. Pleistocene Epoch. Stopping something personal involving a drug experience, and idk the rest i'd have to actually think about it.
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It's a fucking straight to streaming TV show movie. I have no idea why this is theaters only. The budget is also relatively tiny compared to other blockbusters.
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>>214765862
Isn't that just the plot of the TV show?
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>>214767255
>The budget is also relatively tiny compared to other blockbusters.
Disney doesn't have faith in Lucasfilm anymore, the Acolyte was a way too expensive failure for them to trust kennedy with big budgets anymore.
Maybe if this movie makes decent money, they give her the piggybank back.
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>>214765862
Evil Empire = White people
Rebellion/New Republic = jews, blacks, and troons
Mandalorian = Best Goy
Grogu = Squatamalan adopted son
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Book of boba fett, obi wan show, season 3, Ashoka, the acolyte and the sequel trilogy erased any good faith with the fans
Not even Andor was enough to restore the faith in the franchise
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>>214765226
looks like TV slop, not like a movie

looks like it's for little kids

Baby Yeed is a season fad from 5 years ago which Disney failed to seize

Season 3 killed the character

Pedro Pascal fatigue is real
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>>214765912
That's the "Heir to the Empire" movie they announced.
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>start out with a show about a cool bounty hunter that people like
>give increasing amounts of screen time to a puppet, and a bunch of women characters who were awkwardly crammed in there
>now no one cares
Did not pick a great time to drop the movie.
It'd be nice if it was good, but expecting me to be hyped about anything SW is a struggle at this point.
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>>214767849
is Cowboy furryman delusional enough to belive Ahsoka can carry a movie, or are they bringing someone new to play Luke?
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>>214765226
The title is retarded. What the fuck is a Grogu and how do you even pronounce it?
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>>214765226
It’s not even a movie. It’s 3 episodes stitched together. This is the equivalent of a tv special episode or something
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>>214765872
Season 1 was most definitely a space western and almost everyone enjoyed it and it could have gone on the same way for several seasons and everyone would have been happy, but it didn't, they couldn't help themselves and now its shit.
The movie is clearly more brain dead slop no one asked for that won't in any way resemble the first season of the show because that horse has long bolted and that's a shame, but most people are well past the crying over the spilt milk that is the Star Wars franchise.
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>>214765226
It looks like a higher budget extended episode. There's not necessarily anything wrong with that; the X-Files movie is phenomenal and that's exactly what it is. But it's coming after The Mandalorian in particular squandered its momentum and it's not clear what the fuck this movie even is. It doesn't seem important to the Filoni wank since Thrawn isn't in it--which again is fine in itself--but they've been so committed to the Filoni wank that they've conditioned the audience for it.
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>>214765226
So is it going to be a standalone film and story or do the retards at Disney expect viewers to “do their homework” first before seeing (the very thing that killed the MCU)
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>>214767918
Grow-Gu
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>The Pescatarian and Gogurt
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Does Sigourney Weaver have to be in every sci-fi movie? She was “old” 20 years ago
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>>214766260
>release a movie 5 years after the popularity peaked
it’s actually shocking how Disney has mishandled Star Wars in almost every single conceivable way
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>>214767122
Dinosaurs weren’t real
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>>214767825
>Baby Yeed is a season fad from 5 years ago which Disney failed to seize
this shit will never not make me laugh. People had to wait like a year to get baby yoda merch because Disney didn’t expect him to be popular yet they went all fucking in on Porgs (remember those lmao) can we actually all just take a moment to remember Porgs? What a fucking blunder. They were forced so hard and memory holed just as quickly
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>>214767990
miss this lil nigga like you wouldn’t believe
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>>214765226
>What went so wrong?
The previous films and the white tower attitude of the people making them. I still remember the shameless gaslighting and cries of toxic fandom. I remember that the force is female and the franchise "isn't for me". Self fulfilling prophecy. This one's going straight to the cinema cemetery.
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>>214768106
porgs holy kek
they're fucking retarded
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>>214768131
exactly
>the force is female don’t like it don’t watch it chud!
and then I didn’t! And it’s been 10 years
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>>214768210
they really thought they had the next big “thing” on their hands. Around that time all of the shelf space was absolutely dedicated to those things (and they were always stocked because nobody was buying them)
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>>214768064
Well I'd be able to find out wouldn't I retard?
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>>214768281
Oh yeah lmao
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>>214765226
I swear - "SW doesn't need Jedi and Sith, people just love scoundrels and people shooting each other with the blasters" was the biggest psyop SW fanbase self-gaslighted with.
Because not a single non Jedi and non Sith SW movie was successful. Even RO shoehorned in Vader as a sizeable part of the movie and his death march was the most praised scene.
SW needs Force Users. Forceusers are an equivalent of the knights and magicians in the Arturian legends.
Remove knights and magicians out of the Arthurian legends and you will end up with unwashed peasants spearing each other in a generic squabble.
Force Users and their stories, their personalities, their political ibteigues, their fights are what always made SW special.
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>>214768045
>>release a movie 5 years after the popularity peaked
>it’s actually shocking how Disney has mishandled Star Wars in almost every single conceivable way
it's either disney is completely retarded or there are other reasons why they making this movie now. my guess would be there's some financial chicanery going on and they can cook the books with this movie.
the mandalorian was a good show 6 years ago when it was a space western. then unfortunately star wars crept into it
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>>214768344
Star Wars universe is surprisingly boring when there is no Jedi Sith shit happening
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>>214766260
Literally the biggest fuck up of all time. I can’t think of anything else that comes close. George is an absolute retard.
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>need to watch Rebels, some TCW, Book of Boba Fett and 3 seasons of the Mandalorian to know what is even going on
Maybe you'll even have to have watched The Bad Batch too. This will definitely go over well as an only in theaters movie.
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>>214768358
>was a good show 6 years ago when it was a space western. then unfortunately star wars crept into it
Surprisingly accurate.
Star Wars has a lot of really dumb or boring things going on, when I think about it.
A bunch of suits or politically charged retards apparently cannot sift the good basics out.
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Disney actually believes the name “Star Wars” still has any merit or credibility lmao
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>muh Yeed
>sneaking in tiny justifications for the ST
>more CGI Luke
>Boba Fett references
>space Nazis baaadddd

I don't see what they can do to make this remotely interesting and justify it being a theaters only movie
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>>214768233
There was a local toystore here that'd been around for decades, I remember practically dragging my dad there after seeing the Special Edition version of Empire at the cinema so I could get a Snowspeeder toyand there was legitimately a kind of slow-motion race going on with all the parents from that showing because who knew if there would be anything left to buy if you didn't rush. The Prequels were even more manic, I witnessed grown-ass middle class women physically fighting each other over a Darth Maul lightsaber toy.

Those poor fuckers went all-in on Disney Trilogy merch and while I'm sure them going bust a few years back wasn't completely down to that, I'll never forget going past on the bus and seeing the clearout happening - nine industrial size skips, eight of them almost overflowing with Reys and Roses and Finns and BB8s and nuFalcons. I looked into it and found out later they had to auction off their remaining stock to pay creditors and got actually, literally zero bids for any Disneywars merch. The ninth skip was mostly full of the lamest stuff like "educational toys" and some trend doll that died almost as fast as it became popular.

Disneywars didn't just kill Star Wars, it's killed or helped to kill businesses all over the world.
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>don't want to dump money into a full season 4
>Cut it back to two hours and call it a movie
Why would I get excited for a story they don't have confidence in?
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>>214768709
>>sneaking in tiny justifications for the ST
This is why I'm 1000% out. Real fans know the only way this gets better is if the Disney Trilogy gets memoryholed forever and they start over with a version of "after the OT" that doesn't involve all the original heroes being complete failures who's achievements are all overturned so Admiral Purplehair can lecture the heckin' toxically masculine pilot, but nobody involved in running this shit will ever accept that reality and they're just going to keep trying to build towards that unwanted Disneywars future and hoping that by the time the torrent of slop is over we'll be so numbed we'll have forgotten our hatred.
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>>214768813
nu Star Wars played a huge role in killing toys r us for the same reason. And that’s a documented fact
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>>214765232
For the last time it's "Pedo Rascal"!
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>>214768813
A toy store I go to sometimes got this a bit, they also got pretty fucked by Lightyear, shit was sitting there for years
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>>214768813
TPM also had a metric fuckton of overstock as well which is why AOTC was far more modest in terms of merchandising. The 2000s are never coming back, though. Even if the ST had been a massive hit with kids it wouldn't bring those days back.
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>>214768968
This.
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>>214768878
They’ve undoubtedly got some delusion that they can fix the ST’s reputation similar to the way that people at the very least hate the prequels less nowadays. While there’s a myriad of reasons why that will never happen, not least that disney's abysmal content provides an excellent contrast, ultimately it boils down to the end point.
The end point of the PT was the OT, so we always know it will work out for the best.
The end point of all additional NuWars products is the ST. Disney trying to make something out of that era is like a shady guy offering upper class tickets to the titanic; even if he does miraculously come through, we all know exactly where this is going regardless of if we end up having a nice time getting there.
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>>214769267
Not to mention even just the action in the ST fucking sucks. I can enjoy the podrace or any other action scene in the PT but everything in the ST in terms of action fucking sucks
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>>214769267
The biggest issue is really that the PT's reputation is bolstered by retards that liked the movies as even more retarded children. The ST never really had that base of young fans. I have no doubt that people will have nostalgia for the 2010s, but that's another significant difference. Pop culture just moved at a different pace and rhythm in the 00s.
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>>214768358
I think they have unsold merchandise sitting in warehouses and the mexicans that would normally buy plastic chinese trash don't have Disney+ and are too retarded to torrent. They have to release a movie so they can get their unwashed asses in a seat guzzling corn syrup so they can market it to them.
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honestly what's going wrong with live action star wars?

animation has been pretty good for the past couple of years, videogames have been alright (mostly carried by the jedi series) but live action has ONE good TV show and its andor

what the fuck is going on?
honestly they should just make another animated movie at this point instead, given the previous mention of animation being consistently good
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>>214766082
This. They could have sat on it for a while since Luuuke was just starting his school but KK and Mouse Jews were salivating at the sales of yeed merch so they destroyed the story for money.

Many such cases.
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>>214765226
Pedro Pascal nuked the one good show that had promise, and it's been a shit-show ever since. Plus it's "DEI and faggotry in everything" Disney. We know they won't make a Star Wars movie. We know it'll be a (((CURRENT-DAY ISSUES))) movie with people larping as Star wars characters.
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>>214765226
Seasons two and three.
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>>214770440
>Bad Batch fans
Do they really exist? The show has like five good episodes.
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>>214770440
Live action is seen as the serious business, which means there’s more oversight, meddling and general avenues for it to be fucked up. Andor being the bastard step child was the only reason it was left relatively unmolested.
The Survivor series also has the benefit of, amazingly enough, EA having the power and inclination to tell disney to get fucked when they try overstepping the contract. I don’t know why that was their line in the sand, but whatever the reason they seem to actually care about that one
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>>214770676
it's a good show
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>TV show already has murdered any interest
>Check out the trailer
>Please buy Grogu merch!
>Scene with TV quality CGI with the boring cinematography is being shown
>Remember to buy Grogu merch!
>AT AT we have seen hundreds time
>Dont forget to buy Grogu merch!
>Some absolutely pathetic uninspiring action scenes
>Not a single standout character moment or monologue
>BUY Grogu merch!!!
>There is Mandalorian, being boring as always
>Mandalorian and Grog, only in Theaters
>Braaap!
>Curtains fall

I am not watching this, Disney.
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>>214770756
No it is not.
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>Was actually pretty good
>No one watched it because everyone is BEYOND done with star wars
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>>214770831
facts say otherwise
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Reminder Yoda was shitting his diapers for at least 50 years
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>>214768878
>Real fans know the only way this gets better is if the Disney Trilogy gets memoryholed forever and they start over with a version of "after the OT"
Yeah. I see so many people be like "What Disney ACTUALLY needs to do is just move several centuries into the future where the sequels don't matter". Nuh uh, as long as Marey Sue Palpatine is canon, I want nothing to do with star wars
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>>214769296
>>214769490
I don't understand what their plan is though. The prequels got improved through shows and games meanwhile the only things the sequels get is justification for the stupid shit like cloning palpatine, operation cinder, and the new republic dismantling their military and being infiltrated by the first order. The problem is, unlike the prequels, there's absolutely no room for expansion. There's like no room between the movies and the foundation for the conflict is just poisoned

I think Disney's trying to wait for the people who were kids in 2015 to grow up and have nostalgia for the sequels???
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>>214765226
Its not even Star Wars any more. Slapping the name on any old shit doesn't make it so.
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>>214771370
It becomes clear when you understand that disney is like an autistic child when it comes to seeing trends. They can see that they happen, but they don't understand why they happen and assume they will happen again regardless of circumstance.
To them, they saw the public becoming softer on the prequels, so to their minds the same will happen to the sequels. If they keep trucking eventually it will happen, so it's just a matter of shooting until they hit the bullseye.

This isn't even conjecture, we have evidence of it happening way back when TFA released. They assumed that since it was a success and well regarded overall despite the product being uninspired dogshit, that this would follow regardless of what they did. As a result they went all in with TLJ and were absolutely perplexed when they were rejected so thoroughly.
They were simply incapable of grasping that the honeymoon period was incredibly powerful and overshadowed the poor quality of TFA.
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>>214765226
Star Wars is dead.
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>>214765226
Star Wars was the story of Luke Skywalker. It always was (despite George trying to shift it to Anakin). With Luke having died an incel, there is no story in Star Wars.
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They just don't get Star Wars. It's about wonderment and redemption and action with a dash of romance. It's for kids, in George's own words.
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>>214765862
Isn't this literally seasons 2 and 3 and also Ahsoka?
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>>214772271
LONG LIVE LUCAS!
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>>214765226
It doesn't look like Star Wars.
And I don't mean in the Andor way of
>"hurr durr why no lightsabers or x-wings, why dey has bricks and screws la"
I mean the way it's shot is just so passionless. Based on the trailer, it looks like it was filmed generic marvel capeshitty movie. There's nothing that indicates a decent sense of scale, gravity, tension, or even just a distinct style. Star Wars movies usually have better presentation. Even the sequels had some interest in style, even at the cost of all substance.
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>>214765666
>committee of dumb old people who don't care about the end result as art they wanted to make, but only as a thing that makes money.

Lucifer is actually correct for a change...
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We'll always have the first two seasons. They can't take that away. But....

...well, let's see. Carl Weathers is Dead. Gina Carrano got put on ice. The Swedish guy who created the lovely haunting soundtrack left. Mando is just a supporting character in his own show that lost the sword of his inheritance, and is being played by a trannie activist who didn't even show up for the third season. Luke's heroic intervention was made in vain. They're cannibalizing stories from the sabotaged Rangers Of The New Republic Series now. I just... I'm sorry. The weight of the accumulated bullshit is too much. I don't even feel curiosity.
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>>214773091
>first 2 seasons
season 2 was the beginning of the end and has the exact same problems as all the recent slop
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for me, it's not giving a fuck about anything after the galactic empire was defeated and it's not giving a fuck about anything between the prequels/sequels. fuck the rebels, fuck the empire, fuck the skywalkers. it's done. it's been done for fuckin decades at this point. the mandalorian had a good thing going and they managed to somehow fuck it and they are scrambling to keep star wars on life support with this """movie"""
is it really so hard to write a story removed from the same shit that's been shown 10000 different ways now? the ultimate insurmountable paradox of star wars is that its setting has infinite creative possibilities yet everything they slap together will end up relating to same characters in the same 50 years or so time period with the same themes and everything gets worse and worse
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>>214773091
They brought the swede back.
https://billboardphilippines.com/culture/lifestyle/ludwig-goransson-returns-to-score-the-mandalorian-and-grogu/
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While we're on the topic of star wars
Does anyone have that comic of how TLJ should have ended with Rey turning evil and an MS-Paint space battle?
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>>214765226
>>What went so wrong?
>They ruined the OG crew in the sequel trilogy (and the sequel trilogy just sucked in general)
>Too many TV shows, resulting in Star Wars fatigue
>I didn't even watch The Mandalorian Season 3 because they mixed it up and crossed it over with all the other shows instead of just letting it be its own thing
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>>214771370
I think "centuries into the future" *could* work, but only in the context of an opening crawl and a few establishing infodumps in the first act establishing that Basically The EU is what actually happened after RotJ, and the Disney Trilogy isn't a thing(confirmed by explicit statements to that effect from Lucasfilm & Disney in the marketing rounds).



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