>Earlier this year, Michael Burns, the vice-chairman of movie studio Lionsgate, made a bold claim. According to Vulture, he said that through a partnership with generative AI company Runway AI, the company that is home to franchises like John Wick and The Hunger Games could repackage one of its signature series as an anime, generated entirely by AI in a matter of hours, and resell it as a new movie.

>That notably has not happened. According to a report from The Wrap, it’s because the partnership, announced last year as a “first-of-its-kind” deal between a movie studio and a generative AI company, has not gone according to plan. The plan has allegedly hit snags related to the size of Lionsgate’s catalog, the limitations of Runway’s model, and copyright and licensing concerns.

>The deal made between the companies last year saw Lionsgate give Runway AI access to its complete library of films, which Runway would use to create a custom and exclusive model that Lionsgate could use to create AI-generated videos. But, per The Wrap, Lionsgate’s library isn’t enough to create a fully functioning model. In fact, the report claims, Disney’s library wouldn’t be enough for such a task. The reality of building a generative AI model is that it needs a massive amount of data to be able to produce a sufficient and functional output. If the studio wanted to use Runway to create a lighting effect in a film, for instance, it would really only be able to render that effect if it had enough reference points to work with.

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>>214795421
This board has a 2000 character limit per post.

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>>214795349
Bloody Luddite bastard…

AI as it stands is mostly just a retard test for investors.
If you fall for AI buzzwords, you're a retard, if you don't, you're not a retard.

>>214795349
Retarded clickbait articles written by literal retards.
They don't even understand what they are reporting on. It's not that it's hard to make AI movies, it's that Lionsgate doesn't have a big enough catalogue to train an AI model in a way that they hold copyright of all the films used in the training data.
Lionsgate owns about 2000 movies which is not a lot of data. Maybe 10x that could be a starting point.

This isn't about how hard it is to make AI movies, it's about it not being easy to train AI models without being accused of stealing and being open to lawsuits.
A bigger company like Disney could train their AI model with their own copyrighted material.

>>214795632
You lost, tranny.

>>214795663
>Maybe 10x that could be a starting point.
No company on earth owns that much content, that's the point, you can't train AI without getting sued into the dirt.
No, not even Disney could, even with all the Fox stuff they now own.
Plus, Disney themselves have already sued Midjourney, which just opens them up to getting sued by some other company as soon as their AI starts using someone else's IP.

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>>214795708
SAAAAAR

>>214795789
good morning

>>214795789
Is this real?

>>214795756
Disney does own that much content and them suing others for using Disney property doesn't mean that Disney will get sued for using Disney property. You have AI derangement syndrome.
Your ''argument'' is that because Disney is aggressively trying to secure the rights to Disney AI generated content they won't ever be able to use their own content. This is beyond retarded. Them being so trigger happy on the legal action shows they have an interest in AI and they'll try to corner that market.

>>214796195
>Disney does own that much content
No, they don't.
The amount of training data needed to produce anything of value that people would actually want to pay for is staggering, and Disney absolutely does not own enough content for that.
Sorry m8, but gen AI is never going to be able to overcome the copyright infringement issue, it is literally never going to happen.

>>214795663
> it's about it not being easy to train AI models without being accused of stealing and being open to lawsuits.

The joke being, any and every argument for why its infringement to use copyrighted material as training data also implies its infringement for a person to be inspired by copyrighted material.

saar what do you mean this montage of slow panning shots pasted together isn't movie?

>>214796226
> that people would actually want to pay for
>pay for
>ai generated content
>pay for

The future is (you) generating bespoke media. The model of selling individual pieces of media is dead. The smallest thing that could be sold is a model.

>>214795349
And don't get me started on microprocessors.
Yeah we'll be replacing vacuum tubes any day now. Ok saaaar.

>>214796226
You thinking volume of training data is a constant is cute, but pathetic. Midwits really are going nuts about AI, they always assume they have some sort of magic understanding of it

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>>214795349
Who would've guessed anything shilled and used primarily by SEAmonkeys and jeets was a scam the whole time.

>>214796322
Pretty much.
The sheer volume of god awful modern media that is openly hostile to the audience or blatantly tries to use social engineering to control people has killed any trust in modern media.

Most people are just watching older media and pretty soon will just start using ai content generators to create their own stuff.

And people are litterally going to strip out all attempts by the AI to push narratives and propoganda through it as well.

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>>214795421
>Disney’s library wouldn’t be enough for such a task
Does this guy know Disney owns like 85% of everything in human history ever shot on film/video? I'm sure they can rustle up 5-10Bil. usable images from the trillions of frames in their library for a huge foundational model. Even the pictures taken at the parks from rides and their photographers belong to Disney. Not to mention all the artists they employ to create whatever else is needed... or the render farms at Pixar and Lucasfilm to generate anything else realistically should they fall short anywhere else.

Disney literally has America on film from the past 100 years in their library.

>>214795349
The tech's only half there. Anyone with basic competence knows this. Its only absolute retards who think we're 'there' yet.
The point is that 3 years ago people said we wouldn't be there for at least 20 years and we're already nearing that point. I'd give it 2 years minimum, but 5 years maximum before we're fully there. And by 'there', I mean a point where ai can make photo-real films in accordance with the desires of the prompter.
But for the record, we're already at a point where you can make 'good enough' for short films or vfx.

>>214796620
>we're already at a point where you can make 'good enough' for short films or vfx

This is the kind of statement that's roughly equivalent to "brooo Opus 64 kbps is good for music bro it's a new codec bro"

It's only good enough if you're blind.

>>214796656
It's good enough to let creative people make stuff that's entertaining.
It's good enough for vfx that have been used in several blockbusters where it's indistinguishable from human made vfx.
It's not good enough to replace cinema altogether (yet)

>>214796681
>assuming a growth curve that allows a human brain to be replicated by a literal fucking circuit board
AI sloppers are the dumbest people on earth (maybe that's why they're scared of a chatbot?)

AI is useless except for scraping the internet for info and compiling it.

>>214796451
Why the fuck are jeets so obsessed with this shit?

>>214796801
I think GenAI is the most impressive and awesome to a very particular type of tech bro, one who maybe does have some amount of smarts in the conventional sense (not completely retarded) but also one who is uneducated and/or comes from an impoverished background. Think something like "gifted kid from a shithole". With the right mentorship and guiding, such a person could very well grow into a very good white collar tech expert, but without it, he's mostly left to waste his talent aimlessly on flashy distractions that he "somewhat" understands - at least more than his braindead retard peers do - but he's too inexperienced and naive to put them to good use.

And if I understand the social and financial situation there, India right now has a lot of people like this. Guys who maybe could be gifted tech/stem/computer-science people, but they live in situations that smother their potential talent and make them into essentially grown-up bright kids who need tons of guidance.

>>214795663

You don´t fucking say. We have been saying that AI would hit that wall for a while now. It´s simple, if it can´t be trained without infringing copyright then it can´t be trained. If you don´t have access to the data you don´t have access to the data and that´s it.

It´s not just Lionsgate, every single company attempting this will hit the same wall. And wait until they understand part 2 of that same issue, AI can´t hold copyright and trademark rights either. That´s just another shit storm of issues that will affect profitability. And if it isn´t profitable development will suffer, even stagnate.

And then there are the actual technical limitations of the models regarding control and consistency on the results, which is a different discussion altogether (except that if development suffers due to the legal issues it kind of affects the whole thing)

I mean yes, we all know that if we were just to allow theft the technology could do it and AI devs could finally get filthy rich at the expense of everyone else but somehow that argument is just not convincing all the people that would get fucked over by said theft. I wonder why?

>>214797111
>It´s simple, if it can´t be trained without infringing copyright then it can be trained by people who don't care about infringing copyright.
Correct.

the amount of server costs it would take to host and incorporate all the factors that your average midwit human has into an "AI" would be astronomical. there is nothing cost effective or labor saving about this lame ass tech. just hire the midwit for $25/hr and get the same result.

>>214795663
>They don't even understand what they are reporting on. It's not that it's hard to make AI movies, it's that Lionsgate doesn't have a big enough catalogue to train an AI model in a way that they hold copyright of all the films used in the training data.
That's literally what it says in the article you illiterate retard.

>>214796801
AI's only realistic use is for scamming, that's why.

>>214796522
And soon we’ll have mass shootings motivated by genocides and material conditions that aren’t reality but the person has seen them depicted so often between separate AI generated content that they’ve added it to their nonfictional foundational knowledge that one tends to accumulate through consuming works of fiction.

>>214796801
It's simple, jeets are obsessed with AI because they're lazy shits, that and the fact they're this assbackward primitive country where AI slop looks truly futuristic

>>214797050
Shut up, ranjeet.

>>214797782
How did you even derive *that* out of my explanation?

>>214797667
Kill yourself trans freak

>>214797891
I accept your concession

>>214797846
He went almost five minutes without calling someone a jeet

Bubble is going to burst soon.

>>214796620
Sigh

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>>214796620
>But for the record, we're already at a point where you can make 'good enough' for short films or vfx.
Curry encrusted hands wrote this

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What is the point of AI denial? What are you hoping to achieve? It's happening whether you like it or not. All movies in the future will be made by pure software. It is inevitable.

>>214800786
>What are you hoping to achieve?
-bragging how much smarter they are for not getting swept up by hype
>insecurity at the ever-undeniable realisation that human intelligence isn't actually that smart and can be replicated through a predictive text modeler
-denial at the job insecurity that's coming
Pick your poison

>>214795349
They should get sued for fraudulent statements to lure in investors. Also I think Bartmoss was onto something. Stay tuned for something fucking HUGE.

>>214800621
i like how beans on toast eating timmies use "curry" like it's some insult, yeah it's a world famous cuzine that people around the world praise for its excellence. your "fish and chipps" are going out of business as everyone would rather eat out curry, masala, palak paneer, tandoori, korma, rogan josh, aloo gobi, chaat, chapati, dal makhani. enjoy being replaced

>>214800786
Damaging your stock prices.

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>>214800786
SAAAAAR

>>214801069
>cuzine

>>214795421
>>214796530
Surely Lionsgate + all public domain material ever made is enough?

>>214795663
AI slopper cope
you're wrong, you were always wrong. you aren't creative. you never will be. all AI slop is slop. period.

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palak paneer, tandoori, korma, rogan josh, aloo gobi, chaat, chapati, dal makhani, han solo

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Looking back, it’s pretty obvious that the discussion about owning “artfags” was paid shills on behalf of AI companies to try to politicize their garbage. It’s been pretty interesting to see this site gradually starting to realize that all of this AI garbage is only really useful for Indian scammers.

>>214801181
AI training isn't even limited to public domain. As long you legally purchase a single copy of something and destroy it after you train on it (yes literally), then it counts as transformational fair use.

>>214796620
>SAAR DO NOT WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDING FOR AI IS NEARLY THERE JUST 2 MORE YEARS PLEASE SAAR JUST 50 BILLION MORE DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT MONEY TO GET IT THERE AND YOU WILL HAVE PERFECT AI THAT DOES ANYTHING SAAR DO NOT STOP INVESTING

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>>214796451
>>214800621
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>>214801327
Cope

>>214796265
A computer program processing data is not a human, anon. That should clear things up.

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>>214801376
SAAAAAAR

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>>214796801
Ai is just another "god" to the jeets, who worship and enshrine literally anything

>>214801183
sloppa won
it's pretty and it's popular

>>214801327
a lot of it is also genuine low IQ midwits who think AI btfoing artfags was "owning the libs and trannies" or actual talentless retards thinking they could suddenly be creative - some guy was shilling his AI punk album (it was dogshit and obviously AI) and swore up and down nobody could tell the difference
>w-well i wrote the lyrics!
yeah and they were fucking awful

>>214801467
/g/ is a hugbox

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>>214795349
>founding out

Bros, should I get into AI to have job security? I've never written a single line of code but I'm a fast learner!

>>214801474
>one retard made a bad album
>therefore I'll ignore the mass firings of ''art''ists and shartists losing commissions to AIchads

>>214801558
yes saar art is dead

>>214801597
>if I call everyone indian I can ignore shartists losing and killing themselves

>>214801612
yes saar all of this is happen, they do the needful

>>214801625
Hey now, there's more than one kind of AIfag, they're not all Indians.
If you see one of them obsessing with the idea that AI will replace all artists and ruin their lives somehow, odds are it's not actually an Indian, but instead a severely mentally ill porn addict who hates artists because they wouldn't accept their commissions for a low enough price.

>>214801625
>>214801722
pajeet gooner projection

ITT: the dumbest, lowest IQ morons who think they can stop the most important technology in the history of the human race with a few internet shitposts.

It is a blast seeing the dumbest human beings alive seethe everyday

>>214801852
heh, but have you considered that you may be a smelly pajeet????
owned you kiddo
oh wait, you are actually porn consumer who wants cheaper drawings
owned much???

>>214801544
Do you know how to ask ChatGPT bitchass questions you used to Google?
GG, you now have AI job security.

>>214801722
>a severely mentally ill porn addict
>hates artists because they wouldn't accept their commissions for a low enough price.
So... Indian?

Good, hope the gpu and pc market crashes soon and prices normalize.
5000 CAD for a midrange PC is ridiculous.

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>>214801876
>consumer
The word he used was "addict" but I can see that made you uncomfortable.

>>214801852
>Indian reveals evil plan to stop AI by doing nothing but laughing as AI companies fuck up on their own.

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>>214801467
>>214801558
>>214801612
>>214801852
>>214801876
SAAAAAAAR

>>214801960
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>>214801918
Meanwhile improved models are coming out EVERY SINGLE MONTH. You are so dumb you can't even see how rapidly it's improving, it's like mentally stuck in 2023 when AI first emerged.

>>214802041
They're afraid. It's been goalposting for years now. They don't know how to handle how quickly it's evolving. I don't think anyone can handle it but some go into denial

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>>214802041
SAAAAAAR

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>>214795349
AI will stagnate and just remain a derpy helper tool because it just requires too much power
only way it gets as good as people dream of if the world decides nuclear power isnt bad afterall

>>214797300
Chinabros, our response?

>>214801376
>those who did not give an answer are not shown
Statisticsbros, our response?

>>214802184
they are dalits

>>214802201
Qrd on castes? How can I recognize them outside their native context when they’re all wearing western clothes?

>>214801069
Most of those dishes are made with the same base gravy and are overspiced to disguise the fact that the meat used is of poor quality or straight up gone off.
The "famous" dishes were all created in the UK and the ones in India taste like shit.

>>214802315
Most Hindus are vegetarians thobeit. You’re not wrong though, authentic Indian food is basically dysentery on a plate, assuming you’re rich enough to be able to afford to eat off plates

>>214796801
>Why the fuck are jeets so obsessed with this shit?
There’s a lot of money (for them) in scams and fooling boomers with AI art.

>>214801612
The beauty is that antis are 100 % on the losing side and they're completely fucked. We are seeing them thrash and cry and scream, and there is nothing they can do about it.

>>214802514
big mumbai energy

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>>214802514
SAAAAAR

>>214802593
>samples the local cuisine
>hospitalized for a week and airlifted back to the first world
What did he mean by this?

>>214797300

Everyone cares about infringing copyright as soon as they get served though.

>>214802753
>>214802145

>>214795399
these AI companies knew perfectly well that one's studios filmography could never been enough to teach a AI to make videos.
they fleeced lionsgate on purpose, good for them

>>214802753
>>214802593
Thrashing
crying
screaming

You can't stop it, why are you trying so hard?

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>>214802856
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>214802945
Maybe this post will stop AI

>>214802041
the first movies ever put on film are more aesthetically pleasing than anything genai has come up with

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ai takes attention to detail and rendering time thats all
there will emerge talented prompters

>>214803083
No they weren't, the earliest films are awful

>>214803127
and that should tell you how god-awful AI is you filthy fucking dalit