Did you ever truly get over it?
I just noticed how fucking gay they made him look. Christ, what a dogshit movie.
>>214818731No, but I think the sequels are absolutely fascinating in how bad they were and why they were destined to be bad
I hated TFA when it came out so I was prepared for this bullshit
>>214818731Yes, I fundamentally do not care about Star Wars or consider myself a fan anymore
>>214818731Saw 7 in theaters because I wanted to give it a shot and thought it was such ass I skipped the other 2 and wrote anything yidsney completely off
made me realize that I don't like star wars anymore
>>214818843Yiff in hell, furfag
>>214818731Yeah, franchise is dead. I've moved on.
>>214818870>yiff>hellyou can have only one
>>214818731I never got to watch The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker (and Solo). After The Force Awakens, I just lost interest in the sequels. I know what happens in them via cultural osmosis. But I haven't actually watched the other two movies. But regardless, I don't feel much of anything. I grew up with the prequels, so I care about those characters and setting more. I never game much of a shit about Luke, Han and Leia. And I don't really give much of a shit about Star Wars outside of select few things I still occasionally enjoy.
>>214818731You're implying that I was put out by this.
>>214818801It took a while to accept, but they kept sending more and more Satanic filth until you can't possibly ever give it another chance. Dead and buried. No interest.
>>214818796There's definitely a lot of things that I didn't like about TFA, but I kept telling myself "They're going somewhere with this..."TLJ was the point where I abandoned all hope.
>>214818731I got over that moment the second it happened. Also it's the best non-canonical sequel.
>>214822082I genuinely don't know how someone can claim that opinion that isn't just being contrarian. It is wall-to-wall cringe.
Nothing to get over because I never watched it.
>>214819222Thank you for this blog.
>>214822122I mean it, dough. I'm that hardcore anon who tells everyone else they're wrong about original Star Wars, and even *I say* that The Last Jedi is a legit good film, even a great one. I compartmentalize it from I-VI, same with IX, which I don't recognize as anything more than J.J.'s personal fan fiction.
>>214818731I distinctly remember sitting in the theater and getting that sinking feeling in my stomach when a movie is bad. I remember having the urge to walk out during the camel chase but thought that would be some kind of sacrilege to walk out if a Star Wars movie. Remember this was back when hype for the franchise was at near all time highs. So the mere thought of walking out of a Star Wars movie of all things was unthinkable. Like utter blasphemy.
>>214822217TLJ is a bad movie on its own. Even outside of Star Wars. Like George said. "It's beautifully made". So yeah it looks good and is competent from a technical standpoint. But outside of that it reads like someone from film school. Like early film school before they teach you what not to do for reasons of competent storytelling.
>>214818731I completely stopped caring about Nu Wars after TFA.
>>214822481>TLJ is a bad movie on its own.It's the opposite. For one thing, you're talking about it. Now, consider that neither one of us gives a shit about, or is willing to discuss, TRoS.In fact, TLJ is the perfect end for the apocryphal Disney sequels.
>>214818731I hate JJ Abrams. I hated what he did to Star Trek, hated the Force Awakens. I thought the Last Jedi might be ok... It was one of the worst movies I had ever seen. Redlettermedia had to have been paid to say that TFA was good. I refuse to believe they actually liked it..
>>214822538People talk about TLJ like historians talk about the Holocaust. It's a cautionary tale of what not to do for humanity moving forward. There's a cultural line leading from TLJ to the death of Charlie Kirk. Not even meming. TLJ is the focal point for where society went full retard. But even with all that being said that's not why the movie is bad. It's bad from competent writing standpoint. It really is amateurishly bad in its writing and plotting.
>>214822850>There's a cultural line leading from TLJ to the death of Charlie Kirk. Not even meming.Haha wtf I just said out loud. Look, I think it was disgusting that he was murdered, especially with his family near, but come on, brah. Bro even.>It's bad from competent writing standpoint. It really is amateurishly bad in its writing and plotting.I'll grant you that, but if someone chopped out a half an hour, you got a hidden gem.
No.I resorted to doubling down on rediscovering what made me fall in love with this universe in the first place by diving into the past and replaying old games, re-reading the EU and watching the original films. It was this time that made me realize I was no longer a Star Wars fan but I was a George Lucas fan this entire time.I will always love Star Wars, even when it goes down paths I can't follow and it no longer makes sense to me.I will never apologize to George because I never stopped believing in him.
>>214822973>>214822973>I was no longer a Star Wars fan but I was a George Lucas fan this entire time.BASED
>>214822927I stand by what I said. >if someone chopped out a half an hour, you got a hidden gem.No you wouldn't. You'd just get a shorter turd. Like those ones that plop out when you're constipated and really have to push.
Disney Star Wars is its own thing, separate from the Lucas films.And I love all the Lucas films, even the prequels (always have).Disney Wars is nothing to me.
>>214823050>Like those ones that plop out when you're constipated and really have to push.Those are kino because they're sticky which makes for fire engine fun, but surely that's not important right now.Really, the "yo mama" joke has to go. Also Finn and Rose kissing. Egads.
>>214823114>Disney Wars is nothing to me.Should I tell anon about the Disney prop in Star Wars (1977)?
>>214818958>Found the one furfag who doesn't know about Loona.
>>214818796I thought TFA was pretty good until I rewatched it, maybe the worst of them all.
>>214823304>maybe the worst of them allThat's reserved for TRoS, without question since it renders Anakin's entire life moot.
>>214818731I was looking forward to this movie because I got tricked by JJ's mystery box bullshit in TFA. As soon as Poe made a yo mama joke in the first 5 minutes of TLJ I was completely checked out. The lightsaber toss was just insult to injury.
>>214822217I sometimes wonder how it feels to be retarded. Can you shed some light on it?
>>214818731it was mediocre enough that I still haven't seen the third one and don't really plan to. maybe in the future if some girl wants to "watch" it in the background while she sucks my cock I'll give it a look, but I can't see myself watching it under other circumstances.
>>214822850maybe, except TLJ actually happened and was more like a punishment on the rest of us.
>>214822973>EU>George Lucas fanPick one.
Last Jedi opening weekend is right up there with Donald Trump winning in 2016 with being the most fun I've ever had on the internet. When spoilers started leaking the amount of cope and seethe was absolutely hilarious.
>>214823739>>214823739>I sometimes wonder how it feels>Can you shed some light on it?Sure, stick your peen in your mom, then reply back.
>>214818731>Did you ever truly get over it?Yes and No. At the end of the day, my generation had waited forever to see Luke, Han & Leia reunited, and they pissed that completely away. TFA set up some interesting threads and I was willing to see where they led. TLJ squandered everything that barely eked out of TFA as mildly interesting, and it was a giant Humiliation Ritual for the OT characters (and Finn). BUT, it broke the spell. I absolutely LOVE the OT, still watch it several times a year, but the absolute HATE that came out of KK, RJ, and everyone behind the ST helped me to step aside, realize what absolutely horrible broken people they are, and consciously decide to NEVER consume anything DisnyWars EVER again. No Ep9, no Mando, no Andor, no upcoming films, NOTHING. What we got from 1977-1983 was magical, unprecedented, and even the PT couldn't compete because nobody close to Lucas could tell him when he had a bad idea. IDGAF about "canon", "lore", any of that shit. IDGAF how much they want to dangle CGI versions of Han, Luke or Leia. Disney doesn't even get my attention or views.You Never Can Go Home Again.
>>214823196>GOTCHA!lol go back subhuman
>>214824035But I did get you.
>>214822054>but I kept telling myself "They're going somewhere with this..."Same here>TLJ was the point where I abandoned all hope.Yep, again, same. What really stood out to me was the whole TLJ "sacred Jedi texts" attack against fanboy cannon & lore. It was SO tremendously tone-deaf, acting as if that is all the fandom actually cared about. RJ & KK had a raging hate-boner for the fans but didn't even grasp how the fandom worked. The "canon" nerds were a small subsection of the entire fandom. It's like addressing a stadium full of fans and calling them all "incels" even with massive amounts of married couples in the crowd. They painted us all with one brush and attacked us with their own hubris. I actually have no respect for anyone who grew up with the OT that continues to consume this slop.
>>214818731In the sense that I'm no longer angry about the death of Star wars and just simply melancholic.
>>214823944EU writers unironically stayed closer to Lucas's original vision than whatever Disney shat out. No matter how shitty some of the EU at times became, and no matter how much Lucas himself disliked it, the best of the EU was Star Wars through and through. That's why Zahn is remembered so fondly by so many fans. Even the shitty parts of the EU are miles ahead of Disney's abortion
>>214822217>The Last Jedi is a legit good film>SO many BAD plot devices in this film to list>Running from the Empire, able to divert to Casino Planet, Returns to Fleet and Empire still can't catch up>Rickety Ford Pinto Speeders, Rose can catch up to Finn's MASSIVE head start and plow right into him without killing them both and plant a big wet kiss on him after giving her "feel-good" bullshit line while NOBODY decides to shoot at themAgain, you're a special kind of retarded.
>>214822538>For one thing, you're talking about it.>IF YOU TAWK ABOUT DA MOOBIE DAT MEANS ITS GUD!!!!!Not even sure if severely retarded or just trolling. Wow.
>>214824120Based and EU-pilled
>>214824192It got you thinking. Its entropy theme is valid, and no one can argue against it.>>214824155I'll be sure to enjoy it extra for you the next time I put it on.
>>214824065No you didn't. One singular Disney prop does not change what I said. I hope you get cancer and die. We need far less of you on this planet.
admiral holdo was significantly more egregious (I LOVE condescending HR ladies in my space action movies!) and also her girlbossing made no sense when she got btfo anyway
>>214822973>I will never apologize to George because I never stopped believing in him.Big Yikes!I LOVED 1977 George. I loved the George who was collaborative and willing to listen. Pre-1977 George, THX1138 is fucking boring as hell despite being innovative. PT era George is BANNED-FROM-THE-RANCH George who refused to listen to any criticism.If you TRULY love some one, you're able to see their faults. BEST George was collaborative with Marcia Lucas and Gary Kurtz, and allowed his actors to tell him "You can type this shit George but you can't say it. Instead of PT Midichlorian's George making Terrance Stamp cry over being forced to talk to a tennis ball on a stick.
>>214824286THX1138 was kino
>>214824267>replies again to say that they weren't gotHmmm.>wishes fucking cancer on me over a light-hearted moobie threadYour parents are idiots fo' show. Dey den taught you nuffin, boy!
>>214824238>I'll be sure to enjoy it extra for you the next time I put it on.NTA but after seeing TLJ once in theater I will never watch it again. I won't even hate watch it. I won't even stream it because I don't want to give them the single view number.
>>214824238>It haz an ENTROPY theme! Dat means its GUD!And Jar Jar Binks was the theme of stupid creature thinking he was doing a good thing by voting supreme power over to Palpatine. Ewoks were the theme of the little guy against the Big Empire. A "theme" does not a good film make, stupid. You enjoy it all you want. We already grasp that you're retarded. All you're doing is trolling, you are incapable of defending your position. If you truly enjoy it, good for you, you enjoy slop.
>>214824120EU wasn't anywhere near George's vision, and he said as much many times. Disney is also just as bad. I don't understand why you think you have to prefer either one or the other. Zahn was never good, and people just have nostalgia for him because his shit was basically the only Star Wars when there was no Star Wars.
>>214824379>implying that TPM and RotJ (original versions) were anything but kinotastic
>>214824279>her girlbossing made no senseBro, I seriously thought she was going to be revealed as an Imperial Spy. I just could not believe how pants-on-head retarded her command style was. And her "sacrifice" was also retarded as she delayed her own action to stand there gasping like a goldfish at the carnage of her people dying, you could almost hear her thinking "but how does this affect me personally?". But then, that retarded reaction was mirrored in that Mando clip I saw where Luke showed up. Retards standing around mugging for the camera being inactive.God DAMN, we grew up with Han Solo coming face to face with Darth Vader and INSTANTLY whipping out his blaster to fire at him. The feminization of films has ruined so much. We really did have it better back then.
>>214818731They filmed this scene on an ancient Christian site now the people there have to deal with sóywars fans visiting instead of people just interested in ancient Christian hermits.
>>214824301>THX1138 was kinoHow often do you watch it? Are you seriously gonna try to "Um Akshually" try to convince anyone it's not the cinematic equivalent of watching visually interesting paint dry? Its fucking boring.
>>214818731of course not>>214818778also this
>>214824360Damn, its like I typed this. I 100% agree with you. My biggest fear is that they release the unaltered theatrical OT on 4k and cram this shit in with it, I'd have to destroy the ST copies to get over giving them money.I've watched the Holiday Special several times since TLJ came out, I'll NEVER watch the TLJ ever again after the one viewing.
>>214822346And your dumb ass sat there and took it. Over the opinions of people who are the most vapid consumerist retards on the planet.You deserved every minute of that experience.
>>214824446>huehuehue kinotastic!!!!TPM is candy-coated dogshit, and ROTJ is a massive quality dive after the first two films in the OT. I have a tremendous nostalgia and love for ROTJ, but you're a complete faggot liar if you're going to pretend the Ewoks weren't controversial as hell since 1983. Just shut the fuck up already.
>>214824625>TPM is candy-coated dogshit, and ROTJ is a massive quality dive after the first two films in the OTWe get it, you're not a fan. That's fine too.And YOU stfu already.
>>214819222>After The Force Awakens, I just lost interest in the sequels.Fags like you always say this like it makes them special.
>>214818731Luke being disillusioned with being a hero after his failure to keep his nephew away from the dark side is a perfectly fine plot hook and something you could make a great film out of. Instead, though, we get "What if what you thought...but THE OPPOSITE" which isnt how you tell a story.
>>214824279the most offensive part of holdo to me was that she only existed in the first place because the "force is" female writers didn't even know Interdictors existed.
I just finished Andor and watched Rogue One for the first time and it was like a 4/10 but what really pissed me off is that hammerhead ship pushing the star destroyer into the other star destroyer because it's not like doing that in space would gain any momentum so it would in all likelihood just bounce off it
>>214818731no, im still angry
>>214818731get over what? sequel trilogy doesn't exist
>Fuck you for even caring.Only She-Hulk is worse because it's 9 hours more of that sentiment.
>>214818731It's sad to me because there are parts of this movie that are genuinely really good, and it has some good ideas. Luke being a bitter old man who's lost faith in the Jedi way was interesting. Kylo and Rey killing Snoke and forging a new path separate from the Sith and the Jedi was a good idea. It just gets so bogged down in shit, like Rose and Finn and their entire plot in this movie to the entire idea of a central space pursuit that people are somehow just coming and going freely from? It's mind-boggling.I still maintain that things were course-correctable if IX actually built off the good parts of TLJ instead of table flipping into absolute retard shit instead.
>>214825101They kept the thrusters running when they rammed while the Star Destroyer"s engines were turned off. I think the ST sucks balls and TLJ is an abomination, but I like Solo and R1 and I will buy the Andor full box set once S2 becomes available.
>>214825227>Kylo and Rey killing Snoke and forging a new path separate from the Sith and the Jedi was a good idea.No it wasn't. It's indefensible from all angles. I'm onto you TLJ shill.
>>214825133This but unironically. Disney Wars is not Star Wars so nothing they do means shit or is canon in any way.
>>214825303It's like the Dark Side ending in a Kotor game.
>>214825274>No it wasn'tI'm not saying it WAS good as presented in the movie (and immediately shitcanned in the next one), I'm saying it's an idea that COULD HAVE BEEN good if fully explored and fleshed out. The Jedi have clearly fucking failed over and over again and didn't really understand what bringing balance to the force actually meant. It's somewhere the prequels could have gone that would have been better than what we got, beyond any doubt.
>>214825362>prequels*sequels
>>214818731Not enough people realize this, almost all of the problems people have with Star Wars: The Last Jedi exist because of the Force Awakens. There was never going to be an answer to the question of where Luke Skywalker was and why he left that would have made sense or made fans happy. And Jar Jar Abrams left it for the next guy to answer the unanswerable question, cause he sure as hell hadn't thought that far ahead.
>>214818731I never got upset in the first place because I'm not a fucking manchild faggot. They could've given him a more epic send-off than using force ghost so hard that he died but apart from that his character was fine.
>>214818731NoStill hate it with passionI went to it alone, in the morningI face palmed in the very first couple minutesI cringed and rolled my eyes during the whole runI heard some dude saying "What is this shit?" out loud when Luke threw away his lightsaber and people laughingWhen it was over i came back home, logged into theforce.net forums and posted a big ass review shitting on this movieFuck Disney SW.
>>214825529You fucking dirty commie.
>>214825362Like I said. You're a TLJ shill. k.y.s.
>>214822850>There's a cultural line leading from TLJ to the death of Charlie Kirk.This. It was basically the tipping point, when politics entered every part of our lives and normies became part of the culture war. Instead of some gamers and rainbow haired SJWs screeching at eachother.
>>214825425>rey asks luke about ben >luke tells her a story about how a long time ago he accepted this young boy into his jedi school who he knew he shouldn’t have>he sensed evil in the boy, but thought good would win out in his heart just like it had done with vader >instead, he fell to the dark side and killed a student and had to be expelled>that wasn’t ben, though, it was snoke >years later, when he sensed evil in ben, he refused to train him, as he had done with many other since the fall of snoke >unbeknownst to luke, snoke was finding and training up these rejects into the knights of ren, who eventually came and destroyed his school and killed all his students >now he is in hiding, doesn’t believe in himself as a teacher, and has become far more cynicalanyone who knows luke skywalker as a character at all would understand that if his new jedi school was going to fail it would be because he was too optimistic, even naive, about his ability to pull people towards the light, and that blinded him to the fact that not everyone can be saved. rather than him being so afraid of ben’s scary dream that he pulls his lightsaber on his own sleeping nephew. there is no reading of tlj that doesn’t conclude rian johnson ruined star wars and luke skywalker on purpose for political/ideological reasons. it’s unclear whether kk did the same or whether she is just a dumb woman who didn’t care about luke either way as long as her self-insert character rey got to be the hero and the new, true chosen one or whatever.
>>214825714turning point
It's funny how all unused ideas had more potential than the utter bore we got.Here, TLJ concept art for dark side Rey.
>>214819222The Disney shills jumped on you like flies on shit.
>>214818796After I watched TFA I just didn't go see the others. The only reason I know about this scene are the hundreds and hundreds of very successful videos talking about how dog shit it was.>>214818833We won.
>>214822538>you're talking about it.Such a ringing endorsement
>>214824517What a holocaust.
>>214822850Good point, remember at one point we were blaming Russia for it
>>214824279A fascinating aspect to TLJ is how it's so utterly incompetent in its messages and themes that it could easily pass as satire if not for the blatant authorial intent on display.
>>214824120>blocks your pathOr don't forget the pheremone alien that was going to seduce Leia. I thought that was great when I was in middle school.
>>214825958That reminds me of how they released that 'Dark Rey' teaser when leading up the release of TROS. And how nobody bought it even for a microsecond. Literally nobody. Because everyone by that time knew that Disney was too creatively bankrupt to do anything interesting.But at the same time I think the people that say TROS was worse than TLJ are really stealth TLJ shills trying to gaslight. Because while sure TROS was bad. It was merely incompetently bad. While TLJ on the other hand was AGGRESSIVELY bad. Like ok. J.J. was in over his head. It happens. But TLJ is a whole other level both inside the movie and out. Backed up by absolute hubris in the face of its incompetence. Then they practically invented the absolute evil practice of blaming fans for not liking it. I mean sure it was technically done first by Capt Marvel. But it was perfected with TLJ.
>>214825362>The Jedi have clearly fucking failed over and over again and didn't really understand what bringing balance to the force actually meant.This shit right here demonstrates how Jonson pulled the wool over your eyes and was a disgusting hypocrite in doing so.Jonson was so smug about how he was an original auteur that didn't rely on audience expectations and preconceptions, but this very idea relies on the audience assuming more from the movies than were present.Want to know how many times the Jedi failed prior to Luke in mouse canon? The number that's so egregious that Luke decides it all has to end.Once. that's it. One fuck up in over a thousand generations. One that was caused by complacency due to winning so hard the Sith had to hide for a thousand years.The whole premise is absolutely fucking retarded.
>>214826318>tries to pass off a parody and thinks he can fool people into believing he read them
>>214818731sure. There are only three good Star Wars movies. The rest were made purely to make more money
>>214825425Did you see that guys I made a pun. You might have missed it so it's right here. I made sure to point it out for you because I know anyone reading this is a fucking retard.Yeah we wanted to see what Luke Leia and Han were doing and see them reunite. Then you kill them off in the 2nd movie and our new heroes have to avenge them in the 3rd movie. It's basic bitch story telling that mead swilling rune writing inbred norsemen had figured out a thousand years ago.
>>214826293The meme term "pseud" was borne from TLJ. I challenge anyone to cite use of the word prior to December 2017. It doesn't exist. It was specifically created to describe the people that defend TLJ.They think their polished turd is deep. When really it's the most hamfisted pile of SEETHE ever put on film. Rian's seethe of GL and KK's seethe of men in general. All packed into the most college student level first draft script they could muster.
>>214825714I remember all the disney writers tweeting about how they were the resistance and that the empire were always white supremes and people shaming children for wearing storm trooper costumes something that had been a thing for decades. I hate Yidsney so much it's unreal.>>214825745Luke, did i ever tell you about Ahsoka Tano? She was your father's exotic teenage alien apprentice, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age.She had the tigherst body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems.Anakin and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful campaign during the Clone Wars and once in a while we'd have the whole 501st run a train over her, part of official Jedi "training" of course.In time, she learned how to handle a meatsaber better than anyone in the Jedi Temple. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you'd get a glimpse of her orange pussy mid flights as she'd do a flip while slicing a B2 Super Battledroid in half.It was surreal.We taught her to grip her weapon backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by pirates and slavers almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Luke, you have no idea.And she was a good friend.
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>>214826418They failed catastrophically during Luke's father's generation and Luke's own attempt at reviving them failed catastrophically as well, both times directly resulting in the rise of a Sith-led galactic empire. I don't think it's in any way crazy to start questioning whether the Jedi actually had things right by that point.
>>214818731I have nothing in particular against the sequels other than the mini-Death Stars in the last movie and the lack of Mara JadeI was glad to see anything new of Star Wars on the big screen at allThe prequels were pretty disappointing however
>>214826453>Timothy Zahn's trilogy was just a prank broNext you're going to tell me you don't believe in Bigger Luke
>>214826810>both times directly resulting in the rise of a Sith-led galactic empireThe ST's situation is caused directly by the incompetence of the New Republic.A chimp could have lead a faction to challenge them
>>214824439>>214824120After shit like the Mortis gods, Lucas' boring plan for the sequels and shit like the Whills I think I'll take the EU over both what Disney is shitting out and what Lucas thought up.
>>214826966Easy anon, you'll antagonise the die hard lucas fan who mysteriously never shows up outside of anti ST threads
>>214826810>Luke's own attempt at reviving them failed catastrophically as wellBecause of atrocious writing.Luke suddenly tries to kill his own nephew in his sleep and then he somehow destroys the Jedi temple single handed?It's funny how the EU took on all these things the sequel trilogy comes up about the Jedi and just makes the characters find answers in a level headed way instead of going full retard.
>>214818731Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit
Based EUchads ITT
>>214826810>All these Rian talking points
>ST white knight tries to deflect to the EU, promptly gets bodied by the EU chads and immediately outs himself as never having read any of itevery single thread
>>214827027This is the power of a director that was rejected five times by the University of California's School of Cinema-Television.