ITT: Films that bombed critically and/or commercially that you love
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Best of series but underperformed at box office which caused the further 90s series to mostly stop experimenting and go back to Ghidorah/Mothra/MG rather than create new.
Critics hated it and audiences didn't show up for it, but my god, it's kino. Brad Pitt's best performance and despite its length its very rewatchable. Best film the of the 2020's so far.
I WANT A MOTHER FUCKING SEQUEL!
Superman 2025
>>214834744Pic related>>214834782WTF is the appeal of that movie? I genuinely want to know. I was bored as fuck watching it when I was 10 and barely remember it outside of the turtle scene. Isn't even as comfy as other happy Madison films.
>>214834902Went to see it just because it might've actually been an overlooked gem but God it was so bad
>>214835118This was a great time and doesn't pretend to be anything but. Underrated for sure.
Macgruber
>>214835118I swear there are like 20 movies that all look like this just with different actors.
i think it did well in the box office but people hated it, I thought it was fun.
Sequel never ever.
>>214835566I really don't remember anyone hating it besides the bat swarm fist.
>>214834902Dude shaky-cam lmao!
>>214835789Have you seen the 1973 version? That's my favorite and i think best captures the spirit of the book.
>>214835521Its ok. Watching Charlie Day try-hard to act is a little painful. The chick is a charisma vaccum. Jodie and the wrestler guy are decent. Black guy is the same as that black guy always is.
>>214835789Jovovich ruins everything she is in. Her career had to end after the first Resident Evil movie (only acceptable because she still looks so good at that time, bad movie)
>>214835994Of course. I've seen a bunch. The trashy 2012 version is far from the best, but I still like it a lot for what it is, over the top and shameless.
>>214835163I LIKE HOLES
>>214834902I'll grant you that it was very good, but it definitely is not the best film of the 2020's. That first segment of them filming the movies in the field was incredible and definitely one of my favorite sequences of the decade.
>>214834930>sir, the AI just downloaded every mp3 on the planet!kino
The musketeerI dint even know why it git bad reviews
>>214836348>two mules for sister sarahBased. Have you seen the recent French three musketeers movies? They're good.
>>214834744As a kid return to oz was really scary, particularly the scene with the witch who takes off and changes her head. I went back and rewatched it not long ago and ironically now that im in my 30s i found the early parts of the film really upsetting, with its portrayal of a family falling apart amid rural poverty and trying to care for a sick, possibly autistic, child who isn't getting better, and the peril the kid is put in by quack doctors. Funny how perceptions change over time. That didnt bother me at all as a kid.
>>214836348now...have you read the books?
>>214834744I like Return to Oz better than Wizard of Oz, dark 80s kids fantasies are my favorite. Labyrinth is better imho, but Return to Oz is still really good.
If for no other reason than it's one of the few movies where ninjas aren't noble or fight with honor but actual manipulative ruthless killers for hire.
>>214835994>1973 version? That's my favorite>Screenplay by George MacDonald Fraser (flashman, octopussy)Huh, I'll have to check that out.
>>214834744G-G-GIGAKINO
>>214835566It is genuinely fun and entertaining. This would've been a fine starting point for the Dark Universe™
>>214834744This is one of my favorite movies, it has such a unique feel to it, very foreboding and surreal. I love Tick-tock and Jack Pumpkinhead. The Wheelers and the bitch who swaps out heads were so scary as a kid. Underappreciated film, I rarely meet people who’ve seen it.
>>214834947It was very foolish to have the title card for the third act say "the truth" instead of just having it be like roshomon then have a 4th act of the actual duel be "the truth"I also thought they should have better explained whether there was collusion between the mother in law and the rapist causing her to take all of the servants and guards out of the castle on the very same day he shows up to rape her.But other than those issues I absolutely loved it. All the performances were great, good production design, and Driver's best movie imo. I think people will remember this movie well and even though Disney just dumped it into theaters with no marketing after getting it in the Fox deal so very few people saw it in theaters, I think it will be well known.
>>214836907Return to Oz is great, but Wizard of Oz is a genuine classic.
>>214836938Christ was killed by Romans, probably for disturbing the peace when he staged a demonstration in the temple during passover week. If Jews killed him he would have been stoned to death, not crucified, which was a distinctly Roman form of punishment.
>>214836941It's canonically in the same universe as Blade Runner.
>>214837017jews pressured the Romans into killing him, rabbi. We all know that.
>>214837101The Romans were just subjects of the Jews who were forced to do whatever they said, and not the other way around? Who gave the order to execute him?
>>214837115they were threatened by the rebellion retard, stop talking about things you don't know shit about
>>214837261answer the question anon, who chose to give the order? Was it a Jew or a Roman?
>>214834902This movie might have been kino, had they cut out all the degenerate nonsense of orgies and elephant shit. It was like watching a 13-year-old spazzing out with a camera.
>>214834782Times you acted like Grammy Num Nums
>>214837261>The Romans were scared of a jew rebellionYou sound like a retard.
>>214834902surprised no one postrd that webm
>>214834931I prefer Man Of Steel
>>214834902There seems to be an awful lot of movies and shows with the stupid word "Babylon" in its title and it has made me simply ignore them all.
>>214837301The jews chose. Pilot gave them a choice between freeing Jesus or the violent criminal. Jews chose the other
I will never not enjoy this
Fallen (1998) Bitch
>>214838094Didn't realize Romans were in the habit of letting subject peoples run their empire. Why were they such cucks?
>>214834744watched that shit as a kid and it was creepy af
>>214837991>>214834931Dont even start, you two. I WILL turn this car around
>>214838320watch it as an adult, it holds up quite well.
>>214834744Pic related got shat on by critics when it came out, but nowadays it seems to have a small cult following, I personally like it a lot, I do like the Unrated cut better tho
>>214834744For me, it's Grandma's Boy
>>214838872I think it holds up better when the films it parodies aren't fresh in your mind
>>214838872Kino
Best Peter Pan adaptation ever made, bombed (partially due to being released at the same time as Return of the King and Cheaper by the Dozen that both ate into its potential audience)
>>214834782Based 2002 chad >>214834902Yeah its a fun movie but it insists upon itself. I liked the ending>>214839158What happened to pj hogan anyway
>>214839262Bottom left ruins it
>>214839262is this actually good, or just contrarianism?
>>214839622It's not outstanding but it is a fun, ernest adventure film of the kind they don't make now. If you like Legend or Willow you'll like it.
>>214839645so its like Delgo?
Barry Lyndon was considered a flop, too slow, too long and they even said Ryan O'neil was bad in it. I suppose with the ability to pause and restart these days long movies like that are better to watch.
>>214835087>>214839262these
>>214840446>>214840446>>214840446Bump
>>214834782He probably thought that this was going to be his big solo break like Austin Powers was for Mike Myers
>>214837301Why are you acting like a retard?
>>214834902>its very rewatchableits impossible to get through at all
>>214836962>It was very foolish to have the title card for the third act say "the truth" instead of just having it be like roshomon then have a 4th act of the actual duel be "the truth"its repulsive and why i will never rewatch italso the color grading is literally just blue
>>214835566>>214835836>>214836954its literally like a unaired rip off episode of game of thrones
>>214836916directed by the unit director of the matrix movies so the stunts and action were decent but no surprise he went back to crew work after this
>>214836916this is on TV once a month on a black channel
>>214838872>>214837991>>214837244>>214839995literally everybody loves these movies>>214837301>>214841817jews killed jesus everybody knows this move on
>>214834744it's a great movie
>movie way better than the first>animation way better>villain is actually scary and not just some old hag>australia>bombs
>>214842606everybody loves this movie
>>214842571>literally everybody loves these moviesthat doesn't mean they didn't bomb brainiac
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> the only nu-Trek film that's the most like classic Trek> bombs
Pre-John Wick Keanu as a white samurai? Fuck yeah.
>>214842684hes a nobody, hes dead
>>214834744Soul
>>214842687its reddit shitthe 09 one is the only watchable one>>214842699the director was only in hollywood because he slept with ridley scotts daughter, he was the first person given the reigns to make prometheus before ridley stole it backhe ended up scamming netflix for millions with a show concept after this bombed and he went on a adderall bender spending the netflix budget for the show on dogecoin and cars and is currently being sued for not delivering a show https://youtu.be/Ty-hapklwTE
>>214842684Joe Dirt is a great movie. Americana.
>>214842781hell yeah brother
>>214838250Pontius Pilate, the governor of Judea and the man who facilitated Christ’s crucifixion would be removed a few years later from office thanks to a local desert Karen writing a very angry and nasty letter to Rome about Pilates excessive use of force.So yeah, they definitely played ball with these people. Worst case scenario is the desert dwellers would revolt, the local Roman’s might get butchered, and Caesar spends a shit load of resources marching his legions into Judea (again). They tried to avoid it as best they could, it was a very frustrating relationship for the Romans.
>>214834860It's also the most convoluted.
>>214839158Gay pedo movie
>>214835087Phantom of the paradise had a huge cult following though.Not just with internet hipsters from 00's onwards, back then, too.
>>214834930>AI kills the black guy first
For me, it's josie and the pussycats. I mean>cute girls>fun pop punk>cumming and posey hamming it up>actually funny writing>insanely clever messagingEbert can suck a dick.
>>214837214YOU WANT 500 DORRAR !?
>>214836941www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL0KjHHczv0Based
Like if Tremors, Miami Vice, and The Road Warrior all fucked.
It was a fun and clever movie I enjoyed immensely. It did not deserve to flop.
>>214841817Not an argument.
>>214842620As it should.
>>214842687>DUUUUUDE BEASTIE BOYS MUSIC SAVES THE WORLD CENTURIES IN THE FUTURE!Gen X nostalgia is so repulsive
>>214843241It's funny how this movie shows a time not that long ago when pre-napster the music industry had enough clout and power that you could have an evil record executive be a movie villain.
>>214844911simon peggs screed about the late capitalist manchild conspiracy holds up pretty bad after watching that slop
>>214844334i liked it too
Genuine kino of the highest degree, and I absolutely despise Snyder.
>>214837017whose idea was it to have Jesus executed I'm exchange for releasing a murdering rapist?
>>214844950The music industry is still all powerful and evil. The only difference between now and then is that the very simple and tangible metrics of success (album sales, concert sales) have dissipated to a thousand pissant platforms so the corpos just turned more insidious and the music or making new nepo babies into stars is hardly secondary compared to legalese bullshit over rights of 40 year old defunct bands.
>>214838932>>214842684Most of the the non-Sandler Happy Madison movies are underrated. See also - Deuce Bigelow
>>214845293I remember this being a forgettable dumb fun movie, but that one scene near the end making me almost piss myself laughing. that alone elevated the movie
>>214842571>literally everybody loves these moviesMan of steel is mid as fuck.
>>214845982compared to what other capeshit dare i ask
>>214846002All of them.Which is a pretty low bar.
>>214846021you didnt say anythingseems like people with a bias against man of steel are pretty retarded and gay
>>214846049I said plenty. You don't want to accept it.Its mid. Middling. Its serviceable. I've never rewatched it. It's better than the captain america movies and black panther. It falls short of the better movies. Iron man and the first avengers movie are better.I don't consider any capehsit to be high quality praise worthy movies. They are all kinda mediocre, and it lands fairly in the middle of the pack of "oh wow a superhero" movie.If you think general consensus of it is any better, I think you might be trying to confirm your own bias. I've never even had or witnessed a discussion about it besides people crying about the snyderverse dying here on /tv/.
>>214846170i agree with most of your points!now for my reasoning as to why its the best capeshit movie>the action is denser and more intense than the best marvel movies objectively(best marvel action was the iron man movies only, captain america 2 action is not good)>the score is heavy too whereas most capeshit scores are recycling most of the same whimsical beats >the painterly filmic qualities can seem pretentious but why do no other capeshits try to be pretentious or serious at all?it is sincere and that is why i admire itit reminds me of the innocence i used to have as a young white american before i learned it was all a lieit shamelessly makes mistakes in service of this sincerity and i and many others honor it for this like its water in a desert of quirk chungus irony quips and wokenessim not indianim not a christ cuckim not an incelman of steel is the best capeshit movie
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>>214845133My only gripe is that for an R-rated movie about women being exploited in a brothel it has zero actual nudity or sex in it. I get that Snyder's whole thing was sympathizing with the characters and if he'd gone gone full coomer it would just be a titty movie instead of an ironic subversion of titty movies. But the thing is, the self-aware nature of the film didn't buy any sympathy from critics and audiences were just looking for a good time and not a guilt trip about the male gaze so his lofty intentions didn't pan out either way. Would have been better off being unironic and just making softcore porn out of it.
>>214835789Orlando Bloom and Not-Orlando Bloom in the same movie? Who thought that was a good idea?
>>214835566If they made Charles Dance's character Dracula and made Evans Alucard or someshit it would have been an alright Castlevania adaptation.
>>214838250Are you made because your brown ancestors never built shit worth anything let alone an empire?
>>214837214This movie is fucking great, genuinely 10/10. It's so forgettable thobeit, but it means you can rewatch it no problem.
>>214842620This was my favorite movie as a kid. I should make some webms of how tight the animation is
>>214845133I remember seeing this with my dad and he was upset that the father got away with it.
>>214845293The Wrong Missy is hilarious for Netflix slop