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Im hooked. Began S1 back at release and never really kept up (weekly releases iirc), recently began rewatching and now in Season 3. This is.. kino. Ive missed dialogue-heavy series like this very much recently. Its insane to me how low rated it is on IMDB. Opinions?
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>>214840532
cia show

nobody has ever watchjed this before except me and it sucks despite it being so expensive to make
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>>214840532
forgot about this show. will download now.
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season 3 is kino but there is a high chance lee pace and milfbot are not in s4 anymore. they have massive budget cuts
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>>214840532
how pozzed is it?
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>>214840778
That sucks because those two are definitely the standout actors for me
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>>214840930
Ultra-MAGA pozzed.
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>>214840532
This show is slop but for some reason I kept watching it. It's an insult to the books.
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>>214840930
2 main characters are black. Since it's 200k years in the future race isn't even mentioned, just the planet you are from. Americans wouldn't be able to handle it..
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>>214840532
Having 3 emperors made no sense. When a clone dies his memories are transferred into a backup clone. Why didn't Cleon I just transfer his memories into a clone when he got old? Also Seldon uploads his mind before he dies and lives on as a digital being. Why didn't Cleon I do that? If he wanted a body he could have just transferred into a clone or had Demrezel make him a robot body.
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>>214843245
I think it's to get advice from his younger and older self.
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sex with demrezel
sex with day
sex with gaal
dp/dvp with bayta
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rip mommyzel
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Dawn being shown as a young man instead of a kid was mostly useless, bar the episodes where he falls in love.
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>>214840532
Enjoy it while it last anon ,, they fired the showrunners and the staff and go a new one

Thats explain the odd season 3 finale and S4 is cooked
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>>214840532
>Its insane to me how low rated it is on IMDB

It should be lower. This show is too much different from the books to the level it tells its own dumb story using Asimov's charcters.
Female Daneel/Demerzel is way too much human, making it a ridiculous character and when you compare it to the original it's even worst. Obviously it can't stay dead but until it comes back it will be another Games of Thrones (in space).
The Mule is another ridicuous choice. You have 3 characters that plays it. WHY mother of God? Just because the writer needed to fill in some episode?
Not to mention the fake and pitiful Hologram Seldon.
The only way to save the show and give it some dignity is close the Mule's story in a couple of episodes and then, by a time skip, go for Gaia following what's written in the books without woke and generic stuff added as done with these 3 seasons.
I don't care at all about all the CGI they pay for, because this isn't a story/show about how beautiful a spacehip coul be or some WOW FX.
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>>214840532
It's not good. It has some excellent scenes in it with great chacters but in general it's trash and the constant bait-and-switch / deus-ex-machina writing is tiresome.
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It's alright. A lot of the "brown" stuff in season 2 and 2 you really can just skip.
On the other hand, the gay guy couple from season two was not overly annoying and on the nose, the older actor also being competent.
Empire is the best. Lee pace is lee pace of course, but the others make it work too.
The demerzel actress reminds me of Tilda Swinton. Which, apart from being able to act, actually also was a good looking woman. If she wants to.
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>>214843441
the first two are obvious, but gaal actually got hotter with each season
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>Finally finish the 3rd season
>The Mule spent the entire show trying to find Gaal while having Pritcher at hand in the first episode.
It was obvious these retarded writers never bothered to consider the implications of mindcontrol, because it was always reduced to "make people shoot each other" instead of simply 'have people loyal to you", but that's a new low in a show that's been consistently retarded.
I'm getting mad just thinking at how botched this show is, and how much they went out of their way to fuck up Asimov's plot in a way that's not only destroying the core themes of Foundation, but isn't even internally coherent. Even the one bit they did faithfully, the realisation by the protagonists that Seldon's prediction were off the mark in the vault, was disarmed by the fact they announced it'd be coming for the last 2 seasons.
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>>214844979

I thought it was weird as well. The problem with mental abilities is you need to clearly define them otherwise you end up with a Heroes situation full of loop holes. Another problem is you're right, their writing outside of some Empire bits was basically pointless. Literally pointless. Shock moment attempts and bad key jangling to distract from bad writing and the worst part is the people coming after are even worse.

Without Pace and Birn, that show is toast.
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>>214843245
so that each clone can organically grow and learn from the time-period it lives in rather than be stuck forever in the past?
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>>214845918

I think the other anon has a point though, in season 1, it is shown they're essentially put into stasis rather than dematerialized. Then in season 3, it shows them being vaped out of existence.

Without any explanation for the deviation in preservation. The first season made it seem like it wasn't a big deal for the emperors which is why they were okay with the cycle. Now you have emperors running from an advanced killing device.

there was a lot of bad writing with empire side in season 3 to explain breakdown in behavior when they already had an easy escape hatch with the genetic manipulation that happened to the one clone, the only thing that didnt make sense there is why would robot allow that to go forward and not kill the clone that had been altered. It was never explained beyond that era's day wanting to not kill his 'son' but it was clearly shown even emperor's couldn't change her behavior anymore. Yet she found loopholes to set things in motion? When she clearly showed fragility trying to push against her programming?

Too many loopholes and unexplained clashes of ideas, undefined. Might as well have been magic.
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>>214846150
>in season 1, it is shown they're essentially put into stasis rather than dematerialized. Then in season 3, it shows them being vaped out of existence.
Same as every single point of inconsistency: the writers are hacks and don't even give a fuck about the shit they put in. They don't think of the implications, they don't bother with previously established concepts, they just throw garbage to fill their immediate needs and call it a day.
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>>214840532
The goodwill they built with season 3 will vanish entirely with how shit the last episode is, plus the fact that some of the characters that make the show worth watching will clearly not be in the show any more. I don't think I'll bother with S4, if it doesn't get cancelled.
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very low iq show
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>>214846337
Yes Sir, you are very big brain efficient person.
We even have a board for your kind, look for >>>/r9k/
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>>214846150
>>in season 1, it is shown they're essentially put into stasis rather than dematerialized. Then in season 3, it shows them being vaped out of existence.

I don't remember this at all in S1, do you have a clip of it?
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>>214846634
He's right, tho, you need to be retarded to enjoy this show without being infuriated by how dumb it is.
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>>214846722

Cleon is walking past all of the preserved emperors in a long line of them, its in first couple of episodes of first season.
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>>214846737
Granted.
It is very dumb.
I do enjoy Lee Pace and the couple other good actors though.
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>read foundation years ago
>old dude unlocked future predictions with math
>tells the government that shit's fucked
>government says nu-uh and banishes him to a colony
>rest of story is time skips with new leaders keeping the old dude's dream alive on the colony

i hear that the tv show introduces a black girl and the old due is killed by a black man?
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>>214846930
Book foundation:
>Society of scientists and engineers settle a remote planet
>Survive against warlords by being technologically superior
>Become ascendant over them by turning it into a religion
>Survive attempts of the empires to subjugate them because the emperor fears a successful general
TV foundation:
>Society of scientists settle the planet and there is a technomagical mcguffin that nobody understand.
>Survive against warlords because the warlords had a 10-steps plan to acquire a super spaceship, but the hero get the spaceship for the foundation
>Survive against the empire because the general punched the emperor to death and the technomagical macguffin destroyed the emperor fleet and saved everyone from the destruction of the planet.
I can't stop hating this pile of shit, and it's only half of what's bad about the first 2 seasons.
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why does he have to be pozzed gay faggot
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>>214840532
I haven't seen it, is this scene as kino as it seems in context?
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>>214843735
;_;
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Why would gay/cuck scifi writers want to adapt Foundation of all books into a tv series? They should've picked some Philip K. Dick or something. It's like they picked it because it's the scifi goat.
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>>214847860
I think it's a case of an executive realizing they can get that IP for cheap, then hand it to the fucktards they have on hand to make some cash out of it.
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>>214846850
Aren't these just holo-busts?
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>>214841842
>Since it's 200k years in the future race isn't even mentioned
They'd all be white or they'd be still be stuck on Earth. Space Brazil is never going to happen.
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>>214848779
Yup, he's wrong. The only preserved Cleon is the first one.
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>>214843735
I don't think she's gone, least I hope so it looked like she might have survived
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>>214840532
There is a 7/10 show buried beneath a 3/10 layer. It has a lot of issues over being woke but the fact of the matter is that it is very in your face with how heckin diverse it is to the point where the story suffers for it. A lot of the Empire stuff is great, another anon said that Jared Harris is phoning it in but I think that him phoning it in still runs laps over 99% of the other actors in the show.
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>>214840930
its pozzed to the max, I couldnt sustain first 15 minutes of that show, and I liked hazbin hotel + this other show I currently forgot the name of



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