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>white middle class americans are... le bad
>depicts white families as sexual freaks, depressed, loser, sadistic killers
>IR propaganda

please dont be a jew atheist as a director. please dont be a jew atheist as a director. please dont OH FOR FUCKS SAKE
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nazi fatigue
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Todd Solondz characters are deviants but it's not in a hateful way, he shows a lot of compassions towards them
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This movie is kino, if that wasn't already clear from Hoffman being in a lead role.

It's about people putting up a normie front to society
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>>214842770
well the middle class ARE scum that ruin the country, at least in the UK. i know your class system works differently in america and you can for some reason traverse them by obtaining wealth which doesn't really make sense but still. working class Whites (actual ones from generations of working class Whites before them) are superior.
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I dont see how anyone was depicted as bad here. Maybe youre just retarded OP?
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>>214842816
>working class Whites (actual ones from generations of working class Whites before them) are superior.
I refuse to believe that scum fucks from ohio are superior
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>>214842770
>film actually represents the sort of people that browse /tv/, like closet pedophiles and sad lonely perverts
>NOOOO NOOO IT'S JEWISH SLANDER I'M NOT LIKE THIS I'M NOT LIKE THIS
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>haha i love ryan gosling, he's literally me
>wh-what's this? no, that's not... i'm nothing like... *breaks down crying*
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are white people the only race with the capacity for any level of self-reflection?
and not just constant child-like veneration?
>not even a cringey white supremacist but have wondered this for years
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Would you ever fuck me?
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>>214842796
Oh well then it's obviously not subversive propaganda
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>>214842995
even freaks and degenerates deserve to have movies made about them
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>>214842770
this movie is the good version of Magnolia
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"sjw but right wing" is the gayest personality
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>>214842866
Accurate
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>>214843129
I vote "communist not getting long distance swimming lessons" as more cringe, personally
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>>214842866
lels, this
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>>214842971
>not even a cringey white supremacist
you absolute are, even if you think otherwise because you don't fit the cringey way you're portrayed in media. but that's fine here
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>>214842816
the middle class are just as bad here
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>>214842995
You choose to come to a website teeming with pedophiles but go hysterical over the idea of a movie with a white pedophile in it
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>>214842971
>are white people the only race with the capacity for any level of self-reflection?
well we had conquered the world. the only thing left to do once you're on top of the mountain is to gaze down and reflect on the journey there.
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>>214843308
maybe I am but am in a flippant way
I don't hold some kind of insane ideology about it that defines every aspect of my daily life
still have these objective questions that I know are a bit inflammatory lol
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>>214843351
i dont see how making a standard thread discussing a movie is "hysterical"
you're a gaslighting midwit
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>>214842866
>>214843251
>>214843284
>three people who literally just admitted to being pedophiles while signalling smug superiority as a exposure cope
maybe jewish people just make jewish movies?
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>>214843308
>if you say anything good about white people you are a white supremacist
huh weird how calling people a nazi doesnt have the effect you wish it did
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>>214843129
you're the meme, again
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>>214842946
>hahaha i bet he projects then spirals like me
not the own you think it is
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>>214843505
More histrionics
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>>214843637
peak banter my crossdressing friend
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>>214843665
You save Twitter screenshots to your hard drive
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>>214842866
Took the words out of my mouth

>>214842971
Racial politics are mainly just a vector for sexual anxiety. The behavior of most /tv/ posters can be explained by their sexual hang-ups
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>>214843736
yeah i have a whole meme folder
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>I'm a white person with a decent job, a family who loves me, I'm so well off nothing can go wrong
>while I'm at it lets rape women with mental issues and become pedophiles
what compels the white devil to be like this to the point where even one of their own had to make a movie about it
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>>214843752
races exist and so do differences between them
anon asked a question and you're pathologizing to cope its very plain to see and kind of embarrassing because you do it without self awareness + smugness
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>>214842816
based as fuck. grown up middle class in the UK myself and it is disgusting how sheltered, preachy and conformist the middle class are.
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>>214843856
yeah only rich people deserve to not be poor
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>>214843786
Anal-retentive
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>>214843608
it does not behoove a white man to cry all day about being misrepresented like a fucking nigger. trying to tell you to have basic dignity is not a leftist trick.
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>>214843893
way off and i bet you cant even explain your wrong guess
also not an argument to anything i said
i have no shame invested in my sexuality i actually sell my own content and speak openly about my kinky life to anybody
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>>214843920
>do what i say or no true whitemans, so says i, a faggy liberal brownoid online
yeah nah i think ill keep curbstomping your bad posts for fun
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>>214843766
Yeah it's really sick that je- I mean uhhh white people would make do this to themselves haha.
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I shan't be watching this slop
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>>214843922
Sorry I just realized you don’t speak English
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>>214842770
>depicts white families as sexual freaks, depressed, loser, sadistic killers

So? Where’s the lie?
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>>214843945
Damn you really did the thing mentioned in >>214843665 lmao.
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>>214843945
ironic post, see>>214843665
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>>214842971
Things Fall Apart is funny because once the main character realizes africans are perpetually inferior to white people he literally goes "it's over..." and hangs himself
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>>214843956
I’m just not interested in “debating” people on your level
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>>214843856
I have middle class friends here in the US. They are beyond conformist kek and everything they do is for validation
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>>214842770
Maybe The Little House on the Prairie TV show would be more your speed
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>that ending
so
its just a never ending cycle of people being fucking weirdos.
At least the kid confessed, that means theres a chance he is going to receive the help his dad couldn't get.
I choose to believe they signed him up for one hell of a therapist and he grew up to have a normal functioning life
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>>214843992
Uh huh, obviously it's 'beneath' you when you've already been thoroughly blown the fuck out and have no choice but to concede.
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>>214843992
you're beneath me in every single way and you know it
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>>214844013
I don’t think there’s anything particularly troubling about what he did in itself considering his age. Obviously it could get out of control though
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>>214843608
The caricature in this picture hasn’t existed online since like 2014 whereas YOU are literally triggered over perceived racial politics in media.
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>>214844042
did you really get that scared be honest
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>>214844016
Who are you?
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>>214844060
the post i replied to was literally doing the thing in the meme retard
do you think you can gaslight me into thinking a post from this thread made today with a timestamp on it was from 2014
im not triggered by an old movie that i rated 7/10 you fucking terminally online moron
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>>214844068
It's me, the person who somehow has to keep reminding you that feigning ignorance and using smarmy deflection is not a good look when you want to people to think you're an 'intellectual'.
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>>214844090
But what were we talking about? And I never claimed to be an intellectual
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>>214844064
>ooga booga yt boi SCARED
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>>214844068
oy vey
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>>214844123
yeah you seem scared and not white i agree but do you not know how to use greentext or something?
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>>214844174
imagine hating them gradually and not instantly
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All the discussion on this board is about boring racial and religious shit. Scrolled through the whole thread about an interesting movie, and not a single post is a worth a shit. Neither are any of you.
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>>214844204
But do you see the parallels with the posters itt?
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>>214844111
>huh? where are we? who are you? what? huh? what are we talking about?
https://youtu.be/9bdj2f01C1w
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>>214844214
>uhh I thought this movie is fucking epic and you guys are LAME
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>>214844145
>ooga booga *sticks bone up nose* urr not whyt. IM WHYT.
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>>214842866
Hmmm
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>being fucked up is bad: the film
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>>214844237
>if i have a spergy meltdown in greentext its actually him!
ow your attack is too strong ow!
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>>214844111
At least you're self aware that you're a fucking retard LOL
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>Movie is about a group of weirdos who are sexually frustrated and one of them gets outed as a serial rapist pedophile
>4chan users are all like "WTF THIS IS ABOUT WHITE CULTURE WTF THIS IS A JEWISH PSY-OP MOVIE!!!!!!"
hey wait a minute
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>>214844332
>jew makes a movie
>4chan: damn this is gross and typical of them
>jew on 4chan: no no no the movie is real and its you how dare you say i made it up
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>>214844279
>*turns on rap music* *bites into fried chicken* no matter what dey say. mooga knows mooga WHYT.
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>>214844332
Typical leftist redditor remark. You have already been owned upthread.
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>>214844366
whatever you are is very cringe anon
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>>214844214
the movie is unpleasant. we don't like what's in it.
but it gets us thinking because it induces such a strong negative reaction.
if this was a thread about a movie that's enjoyable, we'd be posting quotes and screenshots of stuff we liked from it.
but there is nothing in Happiness we liked, so instead we're talking about what it made us think about.
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>>214844214
This. Just take it to pol.

Interesting movie though. It humanizes the reprehensible, from suicidals to phone perverts to pedophile. Empathy is not an endorsement, but it's an honest, darkly humorous portrayal of the human condition.

Sequel is even better. I know this board would hate it even more because Philip Seymour Hoffman's now a black man married to one of the white sisters and the whole thing is more explicitly Jewish (a boy's upcoming bar mitzvah is a major thread), but it's less uncomfortable a viewing experience (the pedophile dialogue is far less graphic), and the acting is fantastic. Paul Reubens and Ciaran Hinds are unbelievable.
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>>214844444
checked
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>>214844383
I still dont get how you can look at a movie about pedophilia and somehow think it has something to do with white people,
that says WAAAAAAAY more about you than it does the movie itself.
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>>214844403
>*single tear drops onto a pile of watermelon rinds* whyt...
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>>214844468
>take it to pol
no i wont censor my opinions of art on the specific board for which the discussion is relevant for the sake of your fake feelings?
this is a movie and this is a movie and tv board if you cant handle it maybe you should leave retard
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>>214844495
yeah you're a really good faith person with a super high iq we know
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>>214844525
struck a nerve did i
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>>214844559
again, see>>214843665
your "brain" just goes in a little circle like a train track anon can't you see
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>>214844578
bros seething
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>>214844588
i hope one day you can learn to stop coping
checked begrudgingly
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>>214844504
But you HAVEN'T been discussing your opinions of film. You and the other anon have just been whining about who's the real SJW and who's white without mentioning the movie at all.
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>>214842770
Oh cool another migger seethe thread
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>>214842770
He's right though
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Tonally it’s a very strange movie. Extremely arch, lurid satire, deliberately off-putting. Even the way it’s shot, the lighting or something, sort of gauzy and unfocused, imposes this distance or remove from the horrifying, pathetic behavior of the characters, but there are still moments of real pathos. Well the only one I can think of off hand is PSH and the fat chick in bed together. I guess the loser sister who dates that Russian is pretty sympathetic. I think the buildup the therapist’s breakdown was really well done. Anyone seen Little Children? Similar thing going on
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>>214844603
bro you are seething rn lol what a triggered snowflake
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>>214844618
there was nothing wrong with the OP
i didn't make this thread nor did i start the seething
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>>214844646
cringe slave
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>>214842971
>has never seen the Boondocks or anything close or any black comedies which consistently make fun of black stereotypes and toxic elements of the culture.
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>>214844758
using a yikes pepe while giving one old example is not a good look coping liberal anon
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>>214844758
the boondocks guy is a mulatto raised in white suburbs. those are the white genes/culture speaking.
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Todd Solondz films are great, this one has some of my favorite misogynistic depictions of women. I found out about it on 4chan and the child rapist plot was why it was a meme then, so I wonder if that’s why everyone still focuses on it. Also this movie has the amazing Louise Lasser from Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman
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>>214843525
pedophiles btfo
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Harris playing a Russian was the weirdest shit, not sure if it clicked. His scenes with his wife were hilarious though.
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>>214844803
It's not a cope, you're just cherrypicking in a sense. Think of all of the westerns and cop movies and hero stories in general starring white guys in movie and TV for most of the decades of film and tv production. Plenty of examples today they just don't become that popular. There isn't really any race-specific admonishments of "whiteness" in most. And if only specific white characters in a majority white cast are lampooned it was typically more making fun of specific human traits rather than anything associated with them being white. Black movies are more consistent with the self-critique I'd say, aside from the last decade and a half or so. Can be noted that a fair amount of classic black comedies are directed by whites and jews, but there are plenty by black filmmakers. Spike Lee even, very liberal, he is happy to (if sometimes subtly) tell his audience that he is aware of and does not approve of certain black stereotypes. You're on /tv/ watch some tv and movies and actually pay attention bitch.
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>>214845533
can i get this in an even longer form so its more true?
literally all white media is tearing its own identity apart whether for good or bad reason and all black media is about gluttonously savoring and protecting the fake victim status they are forcefully prescribed from the powers that be
your one example spike lee isnt even fully self aware hes a fucking retard!
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>>214844235
But that's what chuds look like
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>>214845842
looks like you have a situation not unlike this post >>214842866
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>>214844060
That caricature didn't exist until after 2016.
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>>214845582
You're a bad actor, very obviously.
>all white media is tearing its own identity apart
completely retarded and untrue and you're kinographically illiterate go back to /pol/ or something. The point of the spike lee example is to say that EVEN spike lee does it too, to an extent. Good luck out there, anon.
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>>214846127
i accept your concession midwit npc
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>>214842770
You do realize that white Europeans genocided half the world for tea and tobacco, right?
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>>214846185
and?
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>>214843978
Based well-read anon, did you read heart of darkness?
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what's with the false outrage? I thought miggers were pro-pedophilia now?
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>>214842770
Clowes is also half-goblin, which makes sense
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>>214843345
>>214842816
Seething pools detected. Lemme guess, you’re obnoxious about anyone using the Lird’s name in vain? And you seethe every day at richers while doing nothing to improve your lot in life? Stop watching reality TV and do something, lower class scum.
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>>214847944
Meant poors*
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>>214842866
Kek. It's actually true. /tv/ is so old now that the succesful one's are the Jon Lovitz character, the unsuccessful one's are the Hoffman character, and the one's that haven't posted in a decade or more are the Philip Baker Hall character.
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>>214846185
shit rocks
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Are his other films worth watching? I loved Happiness, btw.
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>>214842866
read like a book
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>>214842770
One of the best posters made
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>>214844444
Half the people in this thread have probably never even seen it.
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>>214847944
I'm not an abrahomo so no lol, I don't follow any religion actually. not agnostic or atheist though. you're a tard.
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>>214844060
You're actually not wrong. These days people are having mental breakdowns over pronouns and the enforcement of, um, law. So if anything that caricature is only worse today.
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>>214842770
oof, OP felt represented by one of the weird characters



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