Maybe not everyone should be allowed to make television.
and film
>>214846891i havent watched it but i hated how woke fargo got so i bet its shitplus romulus was just force awakens alien edition with a bbc bot so yeah no thanks (((noah hawley)))
>>214846891>science fiction used to shine a light to current world problemsWhoa
>>214847398The problem is that the only problems writers are allowed to talk about now are racism, sexism, fascism, and corporate greed. Everything other topic is forbidden.
>>214846891a spoiled writer living in a gated community whose livelihood comes from made-up stories on a computer honestly would be the right person for this sort of material. i'm sure they're driven by intense guilt for not picking fruits in some field, leading to careful contemplation. anyone actually deeply affected by the class struggle is too busy doing actual labor
>>214847398There's a difference between making a show about "rich bad" with some xenomorphs sprinkled in and a xenomorph show with some political commentary sprinkled in.
>>214846891If a “showrunner” has to explain the show before I watch it, I’m not watching. Simple as.
>>214847398The original Alien was a movie about a monster knocking off people and it was fine that way.
>>214848752it was about bbc
>>214846891Steaming has ruined entertainment. These sites need endless content to keep people to renew their subscriptions. So anything decent gets lost in a void of shit
>>214846891Isn't it the entire Alien series? Hint: Weyland-Yutani is evil.
>>214847463What other topic would you like.
>>214848896Sci fi isn’t suppose to be in your face about it, it’s suppose to be subtle and in the background with large imposing corporate logos and stuff, that the reader/audiece figures out in their ownTLDR: Show don’t tell
Sorry Alienbros if you hadn't already realized Noah Hawley is a fucking retard. I legitimately don't know why this guy keeps getting work.
>class warfareWhy are these people talking like Soviet Russia is still a thing?
>>214850317You can't possibly be this stupid.
>>214851257Yeah man. We're the Soviets now.
>>214850225What would be a good example of subtle sci-fi?
>ITT loser NEETs pretending capitalism isn't actively working against the white working class
>>214851367>Um, no dude, its the Jews that ruined everything!>Ignore the fact the (billionaire) Jews got power over everyone via 21st century usury and a rigged western economic-political-media system
>>214850152central banking
>>214850152Black criminality, migrant rapists, powerful Jewish elites, Jewish ethnosupremacy, anti-whitism
>>214846891>Leftists: I know what the public wants, they want to hear my political views dressed in the skinsuit of something they used to love, over and over and over again.>Also leftists: Only the left understands creativity!I will continue to watch Kdramas.
>>214847398The problem with so much now is they have nothing meaningful to say. It is shining a light on things people already know about and without actually exploring any ideas, be that points of view or solutions. It is all made worse when you get some combination of the creatives thinking they are being profound, are offering solutions, or are for some reason attacking the audience. And ultimately, this is just all being churned out by megacorps, that do not actually believe anything like ruthless corporations are wrong or are deluded that they are not such corporations, and the creatives are just virtue signallers. People try to do the argument that NuTrek, for example, is no different to that what came before in being progressive, but the difference is the stuff that came before actually tried to explore things and did not have disdain for its audience.
>>214847088The worst thing about Aliens Earth is that Hawley openly said "it's going to be about robots of the Aliens franchise" and also getting quoted as saying "I explicitly told my writing staff "if it's starting to look like you are trying to write Blade Runner and not Aliens, we are fucked" when talking worse case scenario for his show. It's probably why Hawley was quite liberal showing the xenomorphs (to hide the fact that the show was really a stealth Blade Runner TV show) as far as forcing the xenomorph and face huggers, etc to show up for a set number of minutes every episode and them being front and center on the screen instead of hiding in the shadows, since he had to justify/cover his ass over how the show got derailed into becoming INO.
>>214847398> shine a light to current world problemsYou mean current leftist dogma
>>214846891Let met guess, this person also is the type of fucking retard that believes communism will bring about Star Trek
>>214851367>working classYou know you have to actually work to be considered working class right?
>>214851283Blade Runner (original), Ghost in the Shell, Gundam (some of the series), Matrix. Old stuff pre-2010 or even pre 2000
>>214852045Sci-fi uses made-up stuff to examine real issues. Not made-up issues.
>>214852848What's the Matrix subtly about
>>214851367What does capitalism have to do with the fact my left wing state taxes me into the lower class?
>>214847398If science fiction wanted to deal with real problems it would talk about the current surplus male crisis instead of an anachronistic version of capitalism for the 1000th time.
>>214847398How fucking brave, Billionaires hiring millionaires to preach about how must it must suck to be poor. Can't believe Hollywood would ever get to be so BRAVE AND AWESOME
>>214852985Are you saying we gotta kill the extra males? Whites, presumably.
>>214853030Jelly.
>>214852985>he doesn't know capitalism is why there's a surplus male crisis
>>214847398virtually all american 50s/60s scifi writers were libertarians or Randian objectivists
>>214853237And? They used sci-fi to critique society from their pov.
>>214846891Woooa, so original, so bold. This is exactly what I'm looking for when watching a show called Alien: EARTH
>>214853231China is capitalist?
>>214853340>China is capitalistNo, but they're not the only country dealing with that problem anymore and they created that problem themselves as a result of their one child retardation. Women's rights and the issues resulting from it in the West are directly tied to neoliberalism, capitalism, and individualism.
>>214853189Of what? Jews?
>>214853237Yes, that's why Ayn Rand was always beloved in both literature and academia during that time, and always. Retard.
The new series had no message or meaning. It was just boring slop. A mashup of ideas that were never explored. All to frame men as bad and women good. It's a completely forgettable piece of media and likely won't have much of the audience returning for the second season.
>>214847398>current world problems>entitled thirdie savages live in our countries and hate us>this is somehow the only way things could be according to modern liberals that also hate themselvesthen people wonder why modern media is so fucking atrocious
>>214853393>neoliberalism, capitalism, and individualism.That's complete bullshit, this is almost directly from the USSR
>>214853493>this is almost directly from the USSRThe USSR is why The West in 2025 sucks?
>>214853470>the American says thirdie, trying to convince himself he's living a good, rich life You're basically living in Bosnia right now, m8
It doesn't make any sense how a super corporation got completely overwhelmed by five synths and one adult alien. It doesn't make any sense why Wendy is some AI hacker god that can just wave her hand and stop any gadget from functioning. It just doesn't make any fucking sense
>>214853571wish i was in bosniathen i could buy hand grenades and automatic weapons
>>214847398>what if... we took an IP and make it a propaganda tool?very whoa
>>214853189Peanut Butter.
>>214853549In some ways, yes. The ideology is supported by people that suck
>>214850152Countries suiciding by lack of sex like what South Korea is doingOr really any of South Korea's problems they're basically a cyberpunk dystopia come to real life
>>214848896Not really because in the old canon before Disney WY was a company but the world was still divided into three super-states. United Americas, UK/Japan and into commies who were the most evil. No surprises they retconned all that into generic safe evil companies fighting each other.
>>214853670>population declining = end of the world>population declining + turning into minorities in their own country = progressive and good and proper
>>214852908"Much Class Warfare" is a made-up issue.
>>214853715It's materialist/communist thinking, something that is deeply rooted in modern society
>>214853715Sure it is, Mr Elite Jewish Cabal
>>214853571
>LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY WE MAKElol
AyyLmao Erf doesn't have any class warfare. You have no middle class and no lower class distinction to begin with. You have the ultrarich, and you have everyone else sucking dick as a blue collar wageslave. Even the scientists with 6 phds, what life do they have? They live and work 12 h days on site and we don't even know what their living conditions are, do they even have their own quarters? Foxconn-tier.
>>214853698>population declining = end of the worldPopulation decline being good or bad is very relative and in South Korea's case it's so sharp it's basically spelling their end yes. It's projected to make their social services implode themselves, among other things and in case you're as much of a brain dead retard when it comes to sociopolitics as I'm guessing from your post, SK has North Korea breathing down their neck like a vampire and without a good enough population of able bodied people to maintain an army they're leaning on getting ass raped.>population declining + turning into minorities in their own country = progressive and good and properThis wasn't said or implied, kill yourself and stop making up things to get mad at.
>>214847398I don't care.
>>214851367>Uhhh, it's totally "Capitalism" that's hurting you, not the turbo-pozzed commies doing literally everything they possibly can to ruin & destroy White people.
>>214853715Look up Dodge v Ford Motor Co.
>>214852935That this world isn’t real (what we call heaven is the real world), and some humans (cypher) would rather sell their souls to live under a Satan created illusion
>>214853811>sociopoliticslolSo let the boomers all fucking die thanks to a couple decades of under 1 tfrThat doesn't collapse a countryNK tfr is also very low, and has half of south koreas population with a fraction of its GDPThere is no threat from them
>>214851367Thanks to capitalism my family is getting wealthier, we can afford our own house, go to holidays, buy things that for the generationliving under socialism would've been unthinkable. Free market won. The competition didn't even show up.
>LOOK AT ALL THE MONEY WE MAKE AND THE THINGS WE OWNliterallythe definitionof materialist delusions
>>214853549Yes. The people the Soviet Union funded and promoted eventually came into positions of power & influence, and they proceeded to ruin everything.
>>214852935The Wachowskis thought they were making a film based on the work of French person Jean Baudrillard, specifically his Simulation & Simulacra, which appears in the film and aptly: Neo has cut out the inner pages and filled the void with his own contraband. That's possibly the only bit of the Matrix which Baudrillard could have considered an accurate representation of the film's use of his work. He disagreed with the Wachowskis and considered them to have not understood at all. If they had, then the Matrix would be a film which couldn't exist within the Matrix itself, without threatening the system.The film's narrative accurately describes the situation in that if you rely solely on your senses, then the world is an invention of your brain and isn't any more real than your own model of it. If you consider it real, then so are your illusions, meaning you have to choose between the idea that there is an objective reality that exists apart from your experience, and the alternative that your experience is shaping what's real. The Matrix is too complex to decode, which implies it is relying on the brains connected to it to decide what it is, a plot-point removed because the studio thought it was too-complicated, and replaced with the more simple-sounding but actually way more complicated magic-science of humans as a source of energy. It fails at exploring or explaining the deeper meaning behind that, possibly because of the lost plot-point. The spoon scene is the closest we get, but the other half of it is: how do the machines get humans imagining the world inside the Matrix to begin with? The closest we get is Mouse's speculation on how the machines seem to know things they couldn't: they need to put those ideas inside humans somehow.
>>214853942Whenever this argument comes up I always refer back to pic related. I grew up watching ex-soviets that defected to USA to play hockey, and their stories risking their lives to leave basically tells the whole story on how bad communism is.
>>214848896WY has been flanderized. From one company amongst others that has an incidental corporate interest in alien life that supersedes space trucker lives to an all powerful nation state company that owns its workers as slaves and has a sole purpose of capturing "the perfect organism" so they can discover acid.
>>214854000I mean yeah. I love that I have my own place, I love my car, and I feed my dogs fancy dogfood. Its pretty awesome actually.
>>214854039how could you love an infiniti, I mean I guess if it is brand new and you broke her mileage hymen
>>214846891Dude... What if like, the synths are the real humans bro... Rr something... Anyways here's some xenomorph wrangling
>>214853750>he doesn't realize the 1% eschews the dataYou poor dumb bastard
>>214854039thirdies have all the same shitIt's called PPP
>>214854076Well it's the last of the G series which is what the Skyline morphed into. It's got 330 hp stock and the VQ engine has been known to reach 300k+ with basic maintenence. Mine only has 65k miles and I got it with 50.
Predator not even once. So it commie gay
>>214854109hurr
>>214853750Now omit the top 3% from each country. Retarded Americans are like holy shit Google has so much money, I'm rich bro
>>214854092>get presented with facts & data>"Ummmm...the data is fake, or someting..."
>>214847398Used to, yeah.Now it's about making it seem ok when "they" go full on genocide
>>214848752>>214848782It was first and foremost about the bonus situation, and you both know that.
>>214854165>wikipedia>facts and data
>>214854009>He disagreed with the Wachowskis and considered them to have not understood at all. If they had, then the Matrix would be a film which couldn't exist within the Matrix itself, without threatening the system.That’s such a retarded take. The Wachowskis didn’t ever market their movie as an expose of the truth or anything. It was just entertainment. They knew the Matrix wasn’t real, and they’re the ones who made it! Sounds like this frog needed to take his meds.
>>214854000Right, we'd be better off if communism impoverished us and made us starveWhat is this cope called?
>>214846891>The xenomorph is just an illegal alien trying to make it in America. Unfortunately it´s met with levels of racism and prejudice that prove humans are the real monsters.
>>214854092Jesus Christ you fucking moron, it's skews the data.
>>214853905>just let your people die en massAmazing solution, you should be the president. I'm sure the military pensioners in particular would be thrilled about such idea.>NK tfr is also very lowMore than twice SK's>has half of south koreas population And a bigger army. Republic of Korea Army: 400,000 personnel, Korean People's Army Ground Force: 950,000 active personnel. Because as it turns out, authoritarian dictatorships can and will afford to put more people in the force. SK's army force was also something in the 600,00 in 2019, so thanks to the fertility problem that one is also on free fall.>There is no threat from themIn addition to the above they have nukes and are friends with benefits with china and russia.
>>214854401>birth rate chartdepressing
>>214851460>george soros will die peacefully in bed after a long long life of nothing but luxury and power>never face any consequences or retribution to his crimes>meanwhile thousands of palestinians die screaming dailywhere is allah
>>214854278He revealed his views publicly in 2004, after the third film. It wasn't a criticism of the marketing, or the film's success: it was specifically his response to their pseuding, which was misrepresenting his own work.
