Ugh This character reminds me of myself.
>>214867906Same except I have been told I'm good looking many times but it's counteracted by my social retardation.
>>214867906I actually feel a disconnect to reality when I watch this movieSupposedly, according to everyone, it's a movie proving that it does not matter what power you have, or how you look, it's what is on the inside that counts.But when we meet this nerd he is a hard worker, with a very interesting job, with his own flat. He has a crush on his super nice colleague who is a well liked reporter. She literally IGNORES him and is very quick to shut him off and down every time he talks.Yet, apparently, the moral is that he is an awful person so the woman doesnt like him, meanwhile megamind is an ugly blue man but is loved by her because of his actions..Meanwhile Omniman or whatever is a handsome super hero loved by everyone for both his actions and the way he looks. Thing is though Megamind was a bad guy for a verrrry long time. And the power tripping nerd acts the way he does when he gets powers BECAUSE of how minimized and ignored he was without them.What more, other than losing weight aka looks, could he have done to be a better and loved individual pre power up?
>>214868215Is losing weight that much of an improvement? Im not talking about 600lbs tier weight loss.
>>214868215It's a redpill about how even being bald is better than being ginger
>>214868260it works for women. it should work for chuddies
>>214868215Jonah Hill's character is just a strawman for the writers to tear down their hated beta nice guy caricature. It's not interested in exploring the character in much depth.
>>214868215Its not that deep, the character was written to humiliate Jonah Hill as a joke.
>>214868215ive mentioned time ago in threads like these that his character breaks the movie. the whole point of the film is about redemption and judging people based on their actions, but his character is just dumb and a loser by definition, he is a plot device to give megamind someone to win over. it's ironic but terrible, the film would be great otherwise
megamind is retroactively made worse by the cashgrab 'sequel' and the series that followed. just awful.
>>214869212Never watched them and never will, it's a standalone movie for me and I'm fine pretending nothing else exists
>>214867906Wasn't this the character that broke Jonah Hill?
>>214869228lucky.aside from the evil lady that had no relevance, Moana 2 was pretty okay for a cashgrab series they turned into a sequel (it's got 3 directors, odd pacing, and a ragtag group of nobodies, they just cut out a season's worth of filler and were left with a movie-length story)so i figured maybe megamind 2 wasn't THAT bad. oof.
>>214869154>the whole point of the film is about redemption and judging people based on their actionsit's not even about redemption, the protagonist had no chance to ever be "the good guy", he was literally thrown into a criminal environment and bullied by his peers for no reasonhad he landed in the same family metroman landed he'd have been the good guy from the very start. he had nothing to really redeem himself from, he was forced into being a bad guythe whole arc of megamind "becoming" the good guy is absolutely retarded
>>214868215This was my take mostly as well. The character is very tonally weird. He's completely normal and seems to have normal mental defenses and morality to take things in stride, then the writer gods intervene to harden his hard and suddenly he starts reacting to the constant low levels of life antagonism he's been getting in completely unhinged manners. He's forced to be a villain.
>>214869412>He's forced to be a villain.just like incels in real life.
penis music
>>214868215power reveals who we really are, and the reporter bitch knew he was a weasel from the start. Meanwhile, when given a chance to be normal without a visible disability (being blue and big headed) she learned that mega mind was a decent enough chap. She's seen what both are like in positions of power and when "normal."One is a victim of how people treated him and was forced into his role of villainy, and the other immediately defaulted to being even worse once in a position of power.
>>214869524megamind was impersonating someone she already casually knew, though, right? that gave him a head start on being treated better while in disguiseunless i'm mistaken
>>214869412>He's forced to be a villain.literally by megamindand he's not even that much of a villain, he clearly shows empathy to his space stepmom and gets angry when megamind treats him badly>"You don't know me, you never took the time to know me. This is the first time we've hung out socially and it's when I'm about to destroy the city"
>>214869524>guy is evil because he wants to use his powers to impress the girl he likeslol, you media literacy tards will bend anything to suit your weird agenda
>>214869593anon did you see the movie
>>214869561Honestly I doubt being Bernard was that much of a head start. He was in a better position than Hal was but let's not pretend this guy was some kind of casanova.
>>214869593he stole, nearly killed her in the process of trying to impress her, and then used her as bait to get to MM with every intent of killing her for rejecting him.
>>214869212I had no idea they’d made more
>>214869679>>214869712The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth
>>214868215Hal isn't a good guy though. He doesn't take a hint, he doesn't move on from his oneitis, who he's possessive in a beta orbiter way. When he gains power, he has no interests in helping people or moving on to bigger dreams, he just fixates on what he doesn't have and becomes bitter. A better man would have moved on, he could have been a chad as Tighten but he focused on one girl who was into twinks. You may think he's nice due to those superficial traits you listed, but deep down his problem is entitlement and contrary to what you think this isn't an incel issue. You see it with many stacies too, they fixate on some unattainable dream chad, instead of moving on and finding satisfaction elsewhere in life.
>>214868215>hard worker, with a very interesting job, with his own flatloliirc he's not conveyed as anything except a random doughy guy who has a crush on his coworker that isn't interested in him. if you think he's awful or pathetic because of that, then that's you telling on yourself. and after he gets powers, he turns into a total cartoon character that has no real motivation aside from vague vindictiveness and egotism. i guess it's supposed to show that power corrupts or shows what's truly inside yada yada it's all pretty ham handed, and that's fine because it's not a movie about himmetroman is very specifically shown as a selfish moron with super powers. he would rather do music for his own amusement than save lives. also as a side note, yes, hal being fat makes him bad. fatness correlates with low impulse control, lack of critical thinking and some amount of selfishness (because it forces everyone else to suffer a smelly fat fuck around them). so logically speaking being fat is inherently evil. that's why he still had a fat face even after he got super powers
>>214869932I bet you're a left-winger who think it's fine for blacks, women, trannies or any other demographic to fight for what they're entitled to but call it evil when a white guy does the same
>>214869734>if people are rude to me that makes it okay for me to murder them
>>214870033you retard didn't read my last sentence
>>214870033What are white people "entitled to" that they're not getting?
>>214870033you know you're exactly the kind of person the movie is making fun of. a meek, weepy craven that occasionally leaks out malice and vitriol
>>214870058maybe don't antagonize the guy with super powers
>>214870076Whatever they want, entitlement is a subjective whim >>214870070>>214870079You guys really don't react well when your ideological biases are exposed
>>214870080Okay but you were saying his actions were justified and he was right to do what he did
>>214868215>What more, other than losing weight aka looks, could he have done to be a better and loved individual pre power up?He couldn't have done anything. Nothing can change the quintessential being of a man. You're either the Last Man (Metroman), the New Man (Megamind), or the Subhuman (this dork).
>>214870115From his perspective, they were
>>214868215>What more, other than losing weight aka looks, could he have done to be a better and loved individual pre power up?Getting a grip and actually going after women he matches with. The reporter bitch is some fancy pants woman and the guy talked about a clown birthday party (or something like that its been a while since I saw the movie) and he thought that was going to woo her somehow.Meaning he knew jackshit about her as a person. Megamind meanwhile got close and personal in talking with her, under a disguise which hurt her later on, but still.
>>214870099Okay so what you're saying is white people should get whatever they want all the time and anyone who has a problem with it should be shot?
>>214870099you don't seem to react well to a kids movie calling you out
>>214869734African proverb. White men are required to be spiritually just and heroic warriors for the empire regardless of their social circumstances. It is the law.
>>214870076the world
>>214870161No, what I'm saying is you're probably a left-wing tranny who calls it "entitlement" when a white man advocates for himself but considers it good and moral when a """""minority"""""" does itI'm basically making fun of you for being full of shit and not really believing what you say, your idea of morality is subjected to the race, gender and sexuality of the individual
>>214870079I agree.It's time that we stopped leaking occasionally. It's time we united. It's time we destroyed all these movies that make fun of us and burned Hollywood to the fucking ground.
>>214870211holy shit you're fucking stupid
>>214870211Please explain your idea of morality anon, I'm very interested to hear what idiotic ideas /pol/ has programmed you with
Morality is when the people who are supposed to win win and the people who aren't supposed to win lose. You should be able to bellyfeel who is doubleplusgood and deserves the upvotes, if you can't then you're probably mentally ill and need a trip to miniluv.
>>214870242>he thinks he's "entitled" to use the ladies shitter while lecturing otherslol, dumb tranny>>214870266Moralsdon't exist and are subejctive rationalizations that humans make to justify their actions to other humans. I'm self-interested and do whatever benefits me.
>>214870305you mean CECOT
>>214870211>original post literally calls out women who obsesses over their oneitis just as much as it calls out incels>"ERM EXCUSE ME WHY ARE YOU TALKING ONLY ABOUT WHITE MEN AND DIDNT MENTION BLACKS ASIANS TRANNIES"So it seems there are two groups who demand you show every fucking person type when making a generic example lest they get mad. SJWs and /pol/tards.Truly two sides of the same coin.
>>214870340>Ayn RandPlease tell me you're not serious lmao. You know she was essentially laughed out of mainstream philosophy right?
>>214870340>I'm self-interested and do whatever benefits me.didnt this conversation begin with you saying that hal (meaning you) is a good person and gets unjustly deemed as the opposite? you're now explaining that you are completely without morals.
>>214870382The difference is that SJWs have been gone for at least a decade now. Conservatards have taken their place, they've become what they once despised.
>>214870394I'm not an Ayn Rand fan. It's a fact that morals don't exist, they're an abstract concept that change on a whim.>>214870409No, I never said he was a good person, I just mocked the anon for making all of his weird moralist drivel arguments to justfy that he was a bad person. I don't think there's such thing as a good or bad person because human's are more complex than that and morality is a subjective idea.
>>214870340>anon's greatest role model
>>214870416SJWs haven't disappeared, they're just the establishment now and their ideology has been absorbed into the general populace
>>214868215I read this in jonah hill's voice
>>214870470You are literally espousing Randian objectivism ITT, with a little bit of libertine morality thrown in there (minus the sexual freedom aspects obviously). Not surprising since that's what /pol/ and the Republicans preach.Pretty embarrassing that you don't know the roots of your own philosophy though. You must not be very well-read.
schizophrenic thread
>>214870494Pic related is the establishment
>>214870521I'm not a Randian Objectivist, I'm not a Republican and I don't browse /pol/ eitherI do think it's funny how you leftards will acknowledge that God is an abstract concept that doesn't really exist but throw a hissy fit when someone points out the same thing applies to morals and ethics. It's literally rationalizations.
>me watching a midwit make a fool of himself ITT
>>214870573Anon what you are advocating for is LITERALLY randian objectivism, aka the single dumbest philosophical movement of the 20th century.
>>214870610You're just mad because your ideological biases were exposed and you have no way to respond
>>214870470>I just mocked the anon for making all of his weird moralist drivel arguments to justfy that he was a bad personAnons post basically amounted to "if you're a possessive fucker with a turbo obsession over your oneitis that makes you seethe and act bitter you're not a good person"(replying to someone who said the character is a good person), that's not moralist that's common sense. And your post blatantly shows you either are functionally illiterate or are too much of a low attention span zoomer to read something fully while being as politics obsessed as a tumblr tranny.All your attempt to mock him did was embarrass you.
>>214870632not that anon, I'm just enjoying the show lmaoplease keep going
>>214870631>Anon what you are advocating for is LITERALLY randian objectivismNo not really I don't think self-interest is a virtue like that philosophy preaches, it's just how humans are and a fact of life>>214870639Stop crying you absurd moralist tranny
EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS A WOKE LEFTIST
>>214870689>anon gets into an ethical debate on /tv/
the vast majority of incels are men like elliot rodgerswhy are you fuckers trying to involve women in this mess?
>>214870689I don't know who's worse, you for being a pseudo-intellectual, or the people ITT arguing with you not realizing you're literally a fucking high schooler
>>214870699>>214870720You can't actually refuse anything I said just resort to silly strawmen argument (just like the movie did)
>>214870744I'm not trying to "refute" anything, I asked you to explain your philosophy and you totally sperged out when you got made fun of for believing in objectivism in 2025
>>214870689>le sneaky Nietzsche
>>214870741>>214870774You're having a meltdown and trying to label me with silly outdated philsophical terms I don't agree with and don't care about, you're a lot more pseudo-intellectual than me>>214870818I don't care about him either what is it with you freaks and your faggy philosphers, god you're a tedious and boring bunch
>>214870833>tch... how dare you try to label me with such silly and outdated philosophical terms>god you're a tedious and boring bunch
>>214870833>anon gets dunked on so hard he pees his pants
>>214870943>>214870969Strawmen and flippant comments won't make abstract concepts of morality come into being, unfortunately
>>214871134You still can't use the women's bathroom, Crystal
>>214871180I voted for trump you fucking moron. It was cool to wear a fedora back then and it's cool to wear a MAGA hat now, that's the whole point of the meme
>>214870394>laughed out of mainstream philosophy right?>mainstream philosophyLMAO
>>214867906>the director of the movie was a paedophile sentenced to 10 years in jail>the main cgi designer was a sex offender still dealing with court hearings>most of the VA cast is in the Eipstein List>yet most normies celebrate this flick like a wonder of modern cinemation[laughs schizophrenically]
>>214871423you know who else is on the epstein list?
Megamind > the Shrek sequels
>>214869932>Better man?
>>214868133>the reason I'm alone and have no friends is because of my unique social graces>not that I'm a hideous fucking gremlinfaced mutant>I know because mommy said I'm very handsomeYeah, that's probably it.
>>214869389>He was forced to be a bad guy because of how he was bornThis excuse doesn't work for black people, it's not gonna work for Megamind either.
>>214870058Yes. That's what leftists taught me.
>>214869946>metroman is very specifically shown as a selfish moron with super powers. he would rather do music for his own amusement than save livesmetroman basically spent his entire existence being groomed to be a superhero without any real choice in the matter, the point is that he never got to choose what he wanted to actually do in life. he's a clear mirror to megamind in that he was forced into a role based purely off what others wanted and not him. Is he supposed to just endlessly be miserable because he has a certain gift?
Yes.If you're selfish, you're immoral. That's not a difficult concept. Pure ethics necessitates the purgation of the self, and subsumation to the ethical necessities of the ethical enforcing instrument, which is the pinnacle of ethical existance and the most greatest Good thing that can ever be the Greater Good.
You can't argue with me. If you do, I'll just call you evil and you'll lose the debate automatically because you can't prove that you're not a bad person.
