Lem was actually a douchebag bully for most of the show and not wholesome at all other than his dog-like loyalty to a bigger douchebag.
>>214869606true and easy to gloss over
>>214869606Lem was a twat who betrayed his friends and deserved to die more than the snitch cop Vic killed in the first episode.
he died his hair into frosted tips, in the early 00s that was one step away from the double pop collar.
>>214869905>diedI are retarded.
LETS SEE THAT MOUTH, /TV/
>>214870021You want me to lick yo ballz daddy?
he was right to burn the money
>>214870295he was only burning the markedbux
>>214869606All 4 were scumbags in their own unique way
>>214869606So? What's your point, OP, you autistic nigger? Him being a corrupt cop in a show about corrupt cops somehow makes it less tragic that he got killed due to a wrong judgement call? What an autistic hellhole of retarded fucking niggers this board is.
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>>214870380The point is that the entire fandom tends to view him as this innocent victim of Vic's actions. Speaking of autism, you clearly have it. This is one of the most socially inept posts I've seen here in a while, lmao.
>>214870406
>>214870491Know how I can tell Kurt Sutter wrote this episode?
>>214870437>view him as this innocent victim of Vic's actionsYes? Because Shane's call on killing him is DIRECTLY a result of Vic coaching him to strangle the rat. This is why Lem is pitied because his death is a tragic mistake. Fucking hell, Shane pretty much says so.>no u autistic, screeched the autistic niggerWe are speaking of your autism and inability to understand why people deem tragic death as heartbreaking, you autistic nigger faggot.
You should have protected her anon
>>214870558Shane killing Lem is entirely on him, and he would've done so no matter what to protect his family. You're having a total mental collapse because it's pointed out that if you actually pay attention to the show, this beloved character that now is largely considered the big lovable cuddly bear, is, in fact, another scumbag who regularly engages in bullying and douchebag behavior OUTSIDE of his illegal activities as a corrupt cop. My initial post had nothing to do with his fate. What were you saying about autism? kek
>>214870406This should be a banner 100%. Make it happen mods.>>214870590She snitched and should've known better considering where she lived.
>>214870628You're right but it's still meant to be tragic not because Lem is a wholesome chungus but because Lem and Shane are friends. Shane HAD to do it and was in the right to do it. Lem would've been grilled until he turned and snitched 100%. He couldn't go to Mexico either cause he would've cracked and gotten picked up. He had to die. Sad and tragic as it is. He had to.
>>214870644>She snitched and should've known better considering where she lived.Thats fucked upShe was like 5 years old and got raped
>>214870687>She was like 5 years old and got raped>Previously on The Shield
>>214869606This and SOA are just 'The Bold and The Beautiful' for men. It's the same formula. I've got no qualms with that. But it'll never hold a candle to HBO's finest. Because of the format.Just because they are corrupt or run guns doesn't make it any different from Ridge Forrester being torn between two women and the spectator gets a million explanations and plottwists. They're telenovelas. Hell, in the end, it's all just Power Ranger's shit. Just look at OP's pic.
>>214870732Ok, now explain how Omar and Brother are amazing characters compared to Vic and Shane.
why is crime so out of control in Murica?every yuro nation ftmp has some sort of ingrained entity that keeps shit together, even during war periodsmeanwhile america is basically just chaos and like living in brazil or south africa
>>214870628>Shane killing Lem is entirely on himLiterally, by the show's own narrative, it's not. Shane does what Vic did in episode 1. Just to affirm to your autistic nigger faggot ass: this is entirely Shane's own awful judgment call, but to pretend he was in no way galvanized by Vic offing Lemansky is simply silly.>this beloved character that now is largely considered the big lovable cuddly bearBecause of the circumstances of his death, yes. Something that your autistic impairment prevents you from realizing. The same reason why people also pity Vic at the end of the show. >My initial post had nothing to do with his fateThat's why you are autistic. Since you are unable to perceive the character arc as a whole and connect why his disastrous death makes the character far more sympathetic than all others.>What were you saying about autism?That you are autistic. Does your autism prevent you from reading posts in full?
>>214870768go to hell
>>214870751Because of the format. I think. HBO gave the writers time to write out a show. The Shield aired on FX, so it was tied to what it could do. Of course 'The Wire' wasn't good all around. Or the Sopranos. But those shows feel more free, to me.I will give you that 'The Shield' came earlier. It was far better than anything coming out of the nineties. Perhaps it was even the show that heralded that 'Golden Age of Television'.Nonetheless, the show was crippled because they wrote it around time and economical constraints. And Kurt probably took some classes on how to write a show and then that's what he did.
>>214870791You need to calm down. Take a deep breath. Read the OP again and separate whatever emotional baggage you're currently carrying and try again. You're throwing the term "autistic" around while engaging in one of the most unhinged social interactions a person can have. OP's LITERALLY just the non-standard SUCK IT way of starting a thread for this TV show. Jesus christ, anon. I hope things get better for you. This is dire.
>>214870732SOA 'exists' in the same world as the shield in the sutterverse or retardation. The Shield is a very good show. SOA is a very bad show. Soap opera criticism is taken, but HBO had that shit too.
>>214870732End your life, you feminized woman-brained waste of life. It surpasses HBO's best shows by a country mile. TV is supposed to entertain, not lecture. Kill yourself and your loved ones.
>>214870886i agree but calm down my man. no need to get riled up by that faggot.>>214870885The Shield's best moments put anything made by HBO to shame. Lem's death, Shane's suicide note, Ronnie's arrest. More powerful than anything else ever aired on American TV. Especially Ronnie's arrest. I was really broken up.
>>214870886Bro. You're one of the most vile individuals I've encountered on this website. I hope you can get the help that you need.
>>214870847The only show that I consider on par with The Shield is The Sopranos. The rest are at least a tier below. The character interactions are as tight as you can get on this show. There's lots of actual storylines that suck, but the way the characters are written and how they interact remains top-notch for all 7 seasons.
>>214870912There's no shame in getting emotionally engaged with a telenovella. For me, The Shield became gradually worse after the season 2 finale. It had some great moments scattered throughout. But I'd disagree that it's better than HBO.As to why that is, is a different question. For context: I didn't see 'The Shield' until 2012 so I didn't experience it 'live'. I can see for sure how it was a breakaway from the shows we had in the nineties.
>>214870879>You need to calm downWhy would I? An autistic nigger OP doesn't understand why a needless tragic death makes people sympathize with a character. He, in his autistic niggerdom, attempts to isolate specific character factors and disregard the character arc simply because it irks him for some reason.Apparently his entire point is that people are not allowed to feel sorry for Lem due to how he ends his life and, as a result, consider him less foul of the four.>OP's LITERALLY just the non-standard SUCK IT way of starting a thread for this TV showYou can do this without typing the most retarded and aloof shit imaginable. As you can see, nigger clearly tries to argue in support of this autistic conviction.
>>214871121You can feel sorry for him. Merely pointing out that people miss the fact that he engages in bullying and general douchebag behavior throughout the show, though they toned it down to make him more likeable in anticipation of his death. You're a pile of mental illnesses. Take your meds. This is the most needlessly hostile interaction imaginable. Do you possess self-awareness?
I remember being quite disappointed with 'Breaking Bad'. My friend told me about the show when it was still unknown. I was getting tired of mobsters and cops. He said: "It's about a chemic teacher who has cancer and tries to sell drugs so that his wife and child might have some money after he dies."I thought: "Fucking Great!" Finally something different.>Turns into a cops and mobster showffs. Not only that, I hated almost all characters, lol, and the setting.
>>214871121>An autistic nigger OP
>>214871201I mean, one of the PoV main characters is a DEA agent. It was always going to end up being a show like that.
>>214871063You're definitely an ESL retard and you should shut the fuck up and go away. You don't know shit about shit.
>>214871289And you sincerely need to take your meds. You're so toxic you're glowing. Do you have normal social interactions in your life, or are you like this because you spend all your time engaging in unhinged shrieking like this on 4chan?
What's the closest thing to a modern The Shield?Nothing I've watched recently including Bosch or Untamed have reached the balance of grittiness and entertainment.
>>214870590That actress, Chelsea Rendon, has turned into a hot slampig
>>214871281I tried 'Game Of Thrones' and it went into the shitter too.'Treme' was alright. If you can bear 85% of the show being, talking about how great New Orleans is. For me it's 'Deadwood' and 'The Sopranos'. But still, like I said, the nineties were pretty shitty in the television show department, we got spoiled after the 2000's and thought that was going to be the new gold standard. Or the new standard. Now that I'm thinking about it: the production standards for television shows have gone up so much. You can't compare it to what we had in the nineties. Does it make for better shows? Wishy washy.
>>214871185>Merely pointing out that people miss the fact that he engages in bullying and general douchebag behavior throughout the showYeah, I wonder why, you autistic fucking nigger faggot. What could have possibly happened to Lem to make people entirely disregard him being part of Vic's racket and consider him the lesser evil, while perceiving him as a devastating casualty of Vic's course of action? Damn, I guess you have to be off the spectrum to understand why people evaluate characters without abridgement? Too bad for OP. Do you really need to top off more crayons to understand this? Again, you stupid nigger on a spectrum, you can start a Shield thread without writing the most moronic sentence imaginable. >You can feel sorry for himApparently not, since a retarded autistic mind of OP can't comprehend what makes him "wholesome" in the eyes of the fanbase to begin with.
>>214871507I'm merely going to point out how you definitely don't possess self-awareness and that it's highly ironic that you've ever called someone else autistic in your life. LOL @ ur existence, buddy. My sincere condolences to your family.
>>214871332You're on 4chan. End of story. You have no foot to stand on.>>214871406There is none. Shield was a product of the last gasp of normalcy (2000's).
>>214871536Yes, you autistic nigger. I will call you autistic. Since you have proven without a shadow of a doubt that you have severe problems gauging why people feel affinity for some people over others due to circumstances of their demise.It's still baffling that you don't understand this, but when I consider that you are on the spectrum, it all makes sense. >LOL @ ur existenceNigger, You can't even make a Shield thread without writing the most retarded sentence conceivable. Be careful around the ridges; don't hit your head too much. Otherwise, in the next thread, you will be asking why people pity Vic since he won a mount of ash.
small but natural
>>214871679Compare it to> Wednesday> Squid Games> Tiger KingIt's different from your run of the mill show. I watched "Fallout" at a friends house and it was like a high budget version of shitty nineties television shows (the writing, the acting). Was that intentional or was it incompetence?
someone post spook street, i always get a laugh when they zoom in on the nigga's fuzzy slippers
>>214871766>>214871679Note how you're the only severely mentally ill schizoid in this thread who's incapable of having a non-toxic social interaction. You lack self-awareness. This is absolutely hilarious. I've gone from pity to sheer mockery. You're unfit to be among other people.
>>214871797save it for a rainy day
>>214871766It looks to me like you're having an argument stemming from your own delusions. The OP just states a fact about the character, with no further implications. The associations you draw and conclusions you arrive at are a sign of autism.
>>214871799t. FNS
>>214871826every single god dang time, thanks friend
>>214871826Kek. I need to rewatch it. I've seen CCCH Pounder pop up in movies here and there over the years. She has a very special name :)
>>214871826It's just not the same without the audio. >let'emgohttps://youtu.be/eL6igXdk4DA?si=CnQDvftra3vWtvDj&t=58
The co-pilot episode is abysmal dogshit. It completely ruins the timeline of the show. In the pilot, Aceveda says he's worked at the barn for a mere 4 months, which means Vic's set himself up and built the Strike Team's reputation in that time, which makes no sense considering they just kinda start taking minor shortcuts in the co-pilot. How do you go from that to killing Terry Crowley in a few months?
Dutch is literally me bros
>>214872116>nearly cucked to death>kills small animals for fun>tries to tear down a fellow detective(twice)>nearly incompetent at his ONE job>a big fat pussy who cannot beat up a man whos a foot shorter so he tries subterfuge, a la the mans wife>also doesnt like billings (retard)am i missing anything important?
>>214872116I don't remember much about this guy. >Starts out as a rookie>Becomes a better detective as time goes on>Kills a cat to get into the mindset of a psychopath or a sociopath.>Sings "Hungry Like The Wolf" when he comes back from a succesful date.That's about it, lel. I'm sure he had some more interesting character development than that.
>>214872081It's garbage and by far the worst episode of the show. Baffling as to why they'd pitch it, let alone film it. It's a huge stain on its legacy.
>>214871922>comments are turned off
>>214869606>name my bandNickelback
>>214872116https://youtu.be/auOacyQT2_o
>>214872213Shawn Ryan also dislikes it and acknowledges the continuity issues. It can just be skipped and disregarded. It initially aired right after the episode where Ronnie gets assaulted by Armadillo for some reason.
>>214872189Dutch is a competent veteran from the start, but obsessed with making a name for himself by catching serial killers. If anything, he becomes less competent as the shows goes on.
>>214872116His unquenchable desire to be the best, gain respect/power, mixed with his insecurity and failure is what makes Dutch my nigga. Same reason I like Pete from mad men >>214872183>>kills small animals for funA necessary sacrifice
What does it taste like?1. Piss2. Sweet Butter3. Juicy Fruit
>>214872312Holy kino
>>214869606That show had some really good moments but is really overrated.
>>214872377IT TASTES LIKE PISS TO ME
>>214871679The Shield was the last show allowed to realistically portray niggers.
Can I watch the third one without watching 1 and 2?
>>214872402I agree and disagree. I think it's by far the best TV show ever made for pure entertainment value and it was like I was watching a top-tier LAPD movie every week whereas the other shows I can definitely see them as TV shows. But I also think that it has huge issues in story and character writing that do bring it down. Even so, it's still Nr. 1 with a bullet. My biggest issue is how callous Vic became and how quickly he threw Ronnie under the bus. Felt a bit too rushed.>>214872413True. I still remember the Kleavon Gardner storyline. The nignog tried to play the DE WYTE PEEPO MADE ME DO IT but that shit was shut down.
>formerly, on the sneed
>>214872452You will lose a lot of context but the enjoyment should still be like butter
>>214872482>They made you....suck and fuck??
>>214870590This and Cherrypoppers are /tv/'s favorite episodes.
>>214872343He got worse? I remember it as him getting better as the show went on. Especially when he partnered up.
>>214871491>a hot slampig>posts an absolutely soggy, fat, walmart-tier specimen - a true mexican hog - the kind you'd see loping around with 3 equally fat kids in the cart buying nothing but goyslopholy shit you are literally brown. there are literal browns here. muds. there are actual shitskins on this website who live in tin roof shacks and post on the 3rd world version of an american internet provider from the 90's and who would actually fuck that thing
>>214872978Yeah i fucking love slutty, fat brown women
>>214871836>The OP just states a fact about the character, with no further implications>autistic nigger faggots unable to follow a simple reply chainHere, >>214870437 second crayon consumer, I've asked him. Since you are taking upon yourself to ward the retarded autist from another mother, who can't comprehend why people pity Lem above all others. At least read the chain.>>214871799>you're the only severely mentally ill schizoid in this thread What do you mean? OP is here. He counts as two autistic schizos for failing to understand why people sympathize with Lem despite him being in the crew. Failing at it so much that he thought it was a good thread starter and is quadrupling down, pretending the character arc should not matter when you regard a character. Conversely, notice how both of you have completely stopped addressing actual rationales pertaining to the character and his standing within the "fandom," like several posts ago. Since you are autistic niggers who have run out of arguments but still want that last word.
>>214873227>Lem was actually a douchebag bully for most of the show and not wholesome at all>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW DARE YOU DOWNPLAY THE EMOTIONAL IMPACT OF HIS DEATH REEEEEEEEEEEEkek, this is you. Note how the thread has nearly 100 posts and you're the only one who's lashed out in this autistic manner, unprompted.>but still want that last word.Don't you find that ironic given how you've decided to bump a thread that was on its way to the archives?You have issues, bro.
>>214871491DIOS MIO
>>214873310>kek, this is youYou mean a person who comprehends why people feel for Lem more than others on account of how needlessly and tragically he perishes? None of them are saints, you autist. A character doesn't need to be a paragon of police virtues for people to like him over Vic. But instead of understanding this very simple thing, an autistic nigger, scratch that, two autistic niggers go:>EEEEEEH HE LE DID LE BAD THINGY TOO EEEEEH Why people like him more? What the heck? Lemme start thread with this sensible questionYou also again completely ignore his second post in the chain. Is there anything I can help you with in terms of following the conversation? Seeing you being too spergy to do it yourself.>Don't you find that ironicNo. Since you are clearly here, not even 5 minutes later, auditing the supposed "soon to be archived" thread to get that last reply. My next reply will be in around 2 hours. I know you will be here bumping it. >You have issues, broWhatever issues you project on me to have, they are better than yours very real, very vigorous autism.
>>214873605>objective statement is made>unmitigated mental illness is posted in responseSeverely, severely mentally ill. Utterly devoid of self-awareness. Oblivious to the absolute irony of the utterance that someone other than himself is autistic. You're an absolute riot.
>>214872482>they made you... chuck?
Which mental asylum did this schizo retard escape from and why did he decide to unravel in a thread about a niche TV series that predates his birth? Grim.
>>214872482>not bane kneeling
>dog-like loyaltyDogs are the supreme species. Dogs can be trained to do anything, serve anyone, and unlike the upright ape will completely sublimate their bestial nature in order to ascend to be the vessel of ethical construction. Old Hitlerman knew exactly what I'm talking about. The age of the monkey will end, the eternity of the hound shall rise.
>>214873866>werent you trained for this? to not gag?
>>214873960The smartest dog breeds all think going to work with humans is the best fucking thing ever. Border collies lose their shit if they arent chasing sheep around or german shephards biting mexicans.
We could have lived in a timeline where season 5 has Interim Captain Dutch become a serial killer and everyone waving off his new weirdnesses.
>>214869606They were all scumbags, with or without Vic, Lem included. People tend to view Lem as a saint who was corrupted by Vic, and that's largely because they made the character more sympathetic from season 3 and beyond. His death is sad, but the most tragic thing on the show is the way Vic betrays the only person who stuck with him until the end.
>>214874412and Lem was the only strike team picture he kept on his desk in the final episode when he went to work for ICE
>>214874593He's the only one he could still face because he died before he had to betray him.
>>214874758>MUH LEM
Are the commentary tracks worth rewatching the show for? I've seen all the deleted scenes.
I AM OVERCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME
>>214874932>deleted scenesI like the one that shows the aftermath of Vic beating up the pedophile doctor, lmao.
>>214869606He was good on the teen squad or whatever it was called, where he worked with underage delinquents
>>214870768that's true but to be honest the crime problem in western yuro nations has grown increasingly closer to american levels over the last decades>t.french
>>214875203That's what happens when you let MENA monkeys into your countries.
>>214871826do ghetto people really react like that to arrests ?
>>214874593Why are 99% of tv actors such miserble failures?
>>214870768>every yuro nation ftmp has some sort of ingrained entity that keeps shit togetherIn europe there are roving gangs of barbarians raping and killing as the pleaseWhen they get caught they barley get in trouble When you defend yourself against them YOU get in troubleKys, faggot
>>214875607They're called MENA niggers and they infest every European country. They're importing these muslim retards wholesale.
