How long does Gunn have at DC?
He has exactly one more movie leftThe entire reason they brought Gunn is because Snyder couldn't deliver avengers Avengers-level of box office success.His next movie needs to make like 1billion at least or else he is done. Everything else is COPE.
>>214872723I've seen the last episode.Peacemaker, Our Vigilante, Earth X Vigilante, Eagly, Flurry (who's actually the alien the Chris talks to in the in-between room) and G.I.Robot go back to Earth X to fight the Nazis, and Peacemaker destroys the portal suitcase thing, so they won't be coming back.
>>214872723He has until Clayface bombs or the merger is announcedWhichever comes first
>>214872723hes only done one movie are they really gonna shitcan him after two?
>>214872723>>214872884>>214872938>SupergirlGonna get mogged by Toy Story 5, Minions 3, Moana, and Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey>Man of TomorrowGonna get mogged by Spider-Man Beyond the Spider-Verse and Shrek 5DCU = DOA>>214872963The merger rumour is awful. WB owns HBO(and GoT) and DC.I unironically wish the best for WB
>>214872723If Supergirl also flops (and she 100% will), then Gunn is finished. Zaslav cancels his Superman 2 and shelvs Lanterns show.
This is a Snyder jeet containment thread
>>214873037DC’s brand is INCREDIBLY damaged. Spending $200 million on movies and $100 million on shows is unjustified. Instead, DC should have focused on making one $100 million Batman movie, one Superman movie, and one Wonder Woman movie, with an emphasis on minimal CGI to save costs. Batman could take on the mob(Maroni and Faclone), Superman could fight Parasite or Metallo (or even just Intergang), and Wonder Woman should have a more personal World War II–era story with a costume-drama feel.
>>214873001He did suicide squad and creature commandos which flopped. Not sure how well peacemaker season 1 viewed but season 2 is a flop, Superman is up in the air with how well it did
>>214873118>creature commandosIs it bad?
Why is the bulk of this DC push fucking TV shows nobody gives a shit about?
>>214872723He doesn’t have time to do another season of Peacemaker. He had to film Superman and Peacamker at the same time and said it was hell. He starts filming Man of Tomorrow next year. How many show runners are also head of a studio and directing movies? He’s not going to let anyone else takeover since Peacemaker is his baby
>>214872723Was The Penguin a failure since no announcement for season 2? Idiot jeet logic
>>214873249Reeves sucks as much as Snyder and Gunn. DC is cursed. Most of DC media is made by idiots
>>214873145Not outright bad, but not good either.
>>214873110Personally i would have focused on the Batman Franchise, give Reeves another batman and grow the Arkam games, and built from there, but they ruined that too.Is pointless now, I don't even think a merger can save the IP because there is nobody left in Hollywood who can tell a fucking story.
>>214873307>on the Batman Franchisenah, the batwank should stop
>>214873305Nobody watched it
>>214873342batman and superman are the only good DC characters they have no choice
>SupergirlWomen led superhero movies are DOA by default unless it's wonder woman,I wouldn't be surprised if it fails to reach 400m.Superman also clearly has a hard cap of 500-600m that can't be surpassed no matter how good or bad the movie is, and also the era of pushing a turd like suicide squad and making 800m+ are over. Even "good" superhero movies like thunderbolts and f4 are only crawling to 400mWhat i'm trying to say is that if they're really staking the future of the dcu on that movie then it's over, might as well not bother
>>214873001He's done two movies and two TV shows. None of which did very well
>>214873307Why give Reeves another batman? reeves is average director and he openly hates comics
>>214873095>if you don't suck Gunn's cock you must worship this guy I hateMaybe people just don't like his shitty movies and tv shows
They should fuck off white the shared universes and just give us good stand alone films. Nobody wants to see Superman do Fortnite emotes with Batman. They want good stories.
>>214873249Yes but the Penguin got made DESPITE James Gunn, not because of him.Thats why he has to contain all this side projects as "Elseworlds"like he is so afraid somebody may mistake his DC universe self-wank.
>>214873454His guardians of the galaxy are all great popcorn flicks bro
>>214873384They could make smaller-budget movies about B-list characters and film them in Europe to keep costs down. There’s no hard rule that only Batman and Superman movies can make money.it's just that no one ever hired a good writers) to write a good B-lister movie
>>214873118Peacemaker season one did worse than season 2
>>214873249Penguin was never supposed to be made. It, Joker 2, and Batman 2 only exist because Gunn couldn't cancel them in time
>>214873428>he openly hates comicsWtf I love him now
>>214873473>Source, my ass
>>214873478isn't intentionally lowering audience expectations like that going backwards from a business perspective isn't that basically admitting defeat if you retreat to 50 mill budget basically direct to streaming B-flicks like superhero movies used to be? after the success of marvel I don't see anyone looking to go that direction even if the well is dry
>>214873426Correct. Both Superman and Peacemaker cost a lot and brought in little return, with poor reception overall. Superman sits at 7.2 on IMDb and 72 on Metacritic, while Peacemaker has 8.3 on IMDb and 76 on Metacritic, but from what I found online, its costs were huge, with far lower returns compared to shows like The Wire or The Sopranos, which both had much smaller budgets.
>>214873499>Source, my ass
>>214873517WB did lose. Admitting a fail is the first step on the road to recovery
>>214873547They can't admit defeat. They have been doubling down on this strategy since Shazam. THEY CAN'T BACK DOWN NOW
>>214873547they still have superman and gunn though that's enough to make one last try
>>214873517On the other hand, making a low-budget movie would be an upgrade from the Arrowverse. Superman & Lois also had a lower budget than the Superman movie and received much better reception.
First Peacemaker's nazi dance in Fortnite gets removed and now thus? Peacemaker bros just keep losing...
>>214873037I think Lanterns is more or less done, Superman 2 will be cancelled, the problem is who would want to continue with this shit ..... Bruce Timm, Michael Bay, Kevin Smith .....
>>214873524Yeah IMDb doesn’t get reviewed bomb by butt hurt Snyder fags. For fun I looked at reviews for Superman and almost all the bad ratings was some spic or jeet with #restorethesnyderverse
>>214873481James Gunn must be seething so much that all the side projects he didn't make are much more successful than his canon.And he tried to include Reeve's batman and he said no.
>>214873636Stop pretending that Superman deserves more than 7.
>>214873639> And he tried to include Reeve's batman and he said no.Source
>>214873606the thing is these tv shows are never gonna make a splash culturally there's just too many shows now for instance I've read a justice league comic and I haven't even heard of fuckin' superman and lois until you just brought it upMovies. it's all about movies, that's what matters
Snyderjeets not sending their best today.
>>214873639All the side projects that Reeves wanted to do are now part of the Gunn shit, Clayface, Dynamic Duo, Bande and Deathstroke, Arkham, Reeves should be in charge of Gunn's Batman too.
>>214873708They can’t get over these views and admit gunn won
>>214872938Fleury being the alien thing is so out of left field that I could believe it.
>>214873734Youtube traffic is mostly bots
>>214873712Total bullshit. Reeves did not want to do Clayface you retard! You think muh realistic Batman going to want a movie on a clay monster? Idiot
>>214873785Imagine if Reeves adapted LOTR. He might have made Sauron a human warlord and turned the orcs into just humans. Or Game of Thrones - no dragons, no zombies, just War of the Roses: The Movie.
>>214872723Depends if he can keep these hits coming
>>214873694Reeve said multiple time he wasnt interested in a dceu type deal,they force him to delay to many time to try to force is batman in.He is done with wb exec and will leave after next batman is release.
>>214873785>Produced by :>James Gunn>Peter Safran>Matt Reeves
>>214873734And how did those views translate to the box office for those movies? Let's post THOSE numbers
>>214873819Why the fuck did Reeves even want to do Batman movie if he hates DC and comics?Reeves sucks anyway.
>dude...like...NAZISYawn. Gunn's a fucking hack.
>>214873892Batman is a character that you could make multiple types of stories with.Lets face it most of the directors who have made Batman haven't read single comic book in their lives.Burton, Schumacher, Nolan. But I think the main problem with DC isn't the characters but the WB execs. Nobody wants to deal with their shit.
>>214873842that poster is sarcastic
>>214873979Are they? Or is it the same sad pathetic shill that posts all this shit >>214873811
>>214873823And? Gunn is referring Batman stuff to Reeves. Show me where Reeves was going to do a Clayface movie? He couldn’t even finish a timely script for The Batman 2. He likely only has a job because of Gunn because of the ridiculous delay.
>>214873976You’re not wrong; however, Nolan already did a 'realistic' Batman. So what’s the point of this again with Reeves? And Burton, Nolan, and Reeves always focus on Year One stories. When will someone finally adapt the later stories?!
>>214874022>Show me where Reeves was going to do a Clayface movie?He is producer, the script has been around since forever, The Substance is based on that script.
>>214874022How fucking hard is to just map out 3 movies in advance. It's an adaptation, not something original or unique.
>>214872884WB and Zaz just wants to get sold off to anybody. They're having a terrible year with half of their movies unprofitable and none of their movies passing $1b. "The DCU" is like WB hanging air freshener in the shitty used car they have on sale
>>214874191> They're having a terrible year with half of their movies unprofitable and none of their movies passing $1b. idiot. All you fags do is make shit up
Why the hell did DC needed to have a shared expanded universe or whatever?.Like that for me was the first problem, why couldn't they have everybody just make their own thing with the characters they want? and when they work they work.The avengers I think broke the brain of the WB executives and they killed the entire company chasing that success.
>>214874297>Why the hell did DC needed to have a shared expanded universe or whatever?.Because in the comics exists the Justice and Injustice Leagues. Alliances of heroes and villains
>>214874272>4 billion>5 moviesseems like they're all under 1b to me, bucko
>>214872723Gunn's going nowhere Jeets.If Paramount buys Warners, the guy who runs Paramount is 100% pro-James.If Netflix buys Warners, Snyder WILL NOT come back, as his movies for Netflix were shit shows with bad viewership, souch they cancelled his upcoming projects for them.Sorry, muddbutts you're outta luck.
>>214874297> Why the hell did DC needed to have a shared expanded universe or whatever?.Because only big event team ups make a billion Post Covid. The Batman 2 isn’t going to make a billion nor is it building up to anything that will. They dumping it out in dead ass October just like did for the first movie in dead March so it won’t have competition. With Wonder Woman movie being fast tracked can bet they are going to want a Trinity movie and Reeves Batman will be put on the back burner possibly indefinitely
>>214874377Numbers from wikie Minecraft($957.85M) + F1($626.2M) + Superman($615.6M) + The Conjuring: Last Rites($421.1M) + Sinners($366.7M) + Weapons($265M) + Mickey 17($133.3M) = $3,385.75M
>>214874377Not just those four movies you brain dead jeet. Also mocked like Conjuring and others that pushed it over 4 billion. WB had a good year
>>214874483Barbenheimer was also a good year, however WB is still unlucky.Fantastic beasts killed Potter. Joker 2 failed. Snyderverse fiasco cost billions. Superman underperformed
>>214874383This. DCU is here to stay no matter how much money it loses
>>214874546> Superman underperformedYup, why they are fast tracking a follow up and putting it out in the heavily competitive July. Because that’s what you do with movies that underperform
>>214874640Dude, Superman cost around $300 million but earned less than Man of Steel or Iron Man 1. It underperformed, and its ratings on IMDb and Metacritic are very low - $300 million for a 7.2/10.
>>214874410Reeves fucked up bad taking so long for the sequel. Movie did over 750 million after the damage batman v superman and justice league did, then drags his ass for almost 3 years before finishing a script. If i were wb i'd be pissed.
>>214874562How is that good? If it keeps losing money
>>214874765That's the irony of this. We, the fans want the best for DC and WB. Shills are paid to promote the worst
>>214874679Tell me one movie got fast tracked that under preformed? Or one that didn’t have a major overhaul like a new director and entirely new direction? Also tell me a sequel to a flop that is being put out in a heavily competitive month like July? Why isn’t The Batman 2 coming out in July? Why they scared of competition for Reeves Batman movies?
>>214874843Here's the funny thing. WB strategy makes zero sense. Reeves Batman, while shitty movie, earned more and had better reception than Gunn's superman. I have no idea why WB is doing that. It makes ZERO sense
>>214874693All momentum it had is long gone. Why WB fast tracking a Superman follow up tostrike while iron is hotSuperman 2025Supergirl 2026Man of Tomorrow 2027All three will be out before The Batman 2 in October 2027
>>214874843>>214874901>SupergirlGonna get mogged by Toy Story 5, Minions 3, Moana, and Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey>Man of TomorrowGonna get mogged by Spider-Man Beyond the Spider-Verse and Shrek 5DCU = DOA
>>214874893Reeves Batman came out in dead ass March with no competition. Imagine if MCU put Thor Love and Thunder out twowerks later? You think would’ve made almost 800 million with large chunk of its theaters and all its IMAX’s gone? Nope. Reeves Batman isn’t a fun summer movie and why not putting it out in summer blockbuster season
>>214872723Nobody in the industry seems to know how to handle the C-tier super heroes anyways. It´s like they are unable to tell good ideas and teams from bad ones. Were these people never young? I mean, i´m not asking to put a nerd on his 30´s or 40´s in charge of anything here but i feel like these adults just can´t tell what´s cool like kids can.
>>214874944Atleast they’re not scared to put out against competition. Same can’t be said for The Batman. Trade off is not a chance in hell The Batman 2 will come close to a billion in dead October
>>214874957Ok, but why is WB releasing a Superman sequel when there will be so much competition, especially since Superman had a weak reception and a low profit margin? Or is WB lying, and did Superman actually cross a billion? Crossing a $600 million on a $300 million budget isn’t much.
>>214874980Market has changed. Nobody going to go watch Ant Man in theaters post Covid. And with so much shit on streaming it all gets drowned out. Why they’re all big IPmining. You think anyone be watching Wednesday without Addams Family IP attached to it? You think The Penguin would’ve gotten 3 million viewers without Penguin name and it being attached to Batman?
>>214875007It did well domestically, better than any Superman movie. Domestics is where studios get the highest profit margins. MOS made 63 million in China yet studios only get 25% of the profits which would’ve only been 15 million.
>>214875051How does Penguin viewership compares to non IP like White Lotus or anything else HBO makes?I pirate, so I have no idea what's on current library
As long as he keeps BTFOing marlel entire phases with each movie he'll be fine
>>214874843>>214874893How do you guys still not understand what's going on?>Gunn makes SS and it underperforms but does well critically and on streaming>Battinson filming>allegedly Reeves offered to be new head of DCEU as Hamada is leaving after Black Adam and he turns it down>Rock vying to take control of the franchise>Zaslav wants consistency and wants restored Snyderverse>Black Adam flops, Rock is booted, Gunn is given the job>Gunn proceeds to wipe EVERYTHING (except the stuff he made) and tinker with the projects still set to come out>Only exception is Reeves' Batman (and Joker 2) since it's outside the DCEU>Battinson does very well at the box office but not exceptional, does very well critically too>Gunn wants his own Batman>execs are unwilling to throw out Battinson after its acclaim>Reeves refuses to acquiest his Batman into Gunn's continuity>Gunn subtly tries to push Reeves out>Unfortunately, The Penguin already started production>Show releases and does stupidly well, critically and viewership-wise>Gunn is unable to mess with Reeves' film>Reeves suffers a personal tragedy behind the scenes>script's delayed>Gunn jumps on the opportunity and refuses to greenlight production until there's a completed script, claiming no film enters production until then>Superman hype train goes into overdrive>execs are unsure how it's going to play out but are enamoured by the hype>agree to stall Batman 2, thinking they might finally have their mcu dcu>Reeves finishes, for all intents and purposes, his Batman 2 script months prior but "technically" one can argue it isn't finished (think hollywood accounting - brand names, lore details, character references etc might not be finalised)>Superman releases and doesn't flop, but underperforms - doesn't even beat MoS>execs are unsure what to do>less than a week later, the Batman 2 miraculously finally has a script - what great timing!>Gunn announces Superman 2 as his next film, with only an outline
>>214875051Not really, it stands to reason to start with big names and only go into secondary teams as spin offs but even then you need to choose the right teams.Like you can probably get away with teen titans, young justice or suicide squad on the B tier but anything lesser known like doom patrol or runaways is a risk and anything even more obscure is just not going to fly. As for Marvel, they are honestly wasting their time with anything that´s not x-men related at this point.
>>214875160Everything you posted you pulled out of your ass. Gunn was only going to reboot Superman. Blame The Flash bombing for a complete reboot! Had The Flash done well they’d kept the new Flash timeline. Add on Batgirl being so awful Zaslov shelved it! Keaton’s Batman in the new Flash timeline was suppose to train Batgirl and she’d take over as Batman. With that movie cancelled, that was out the window and why they did the reshoot with Clooney at the end.
>>214875340>Gunn was only going to reboot Superman. Blame The Flash bombing for a complete reboot!This is actual fantasy, what the fuck? Gunn literally announced almost immediately that the entire thing was going to be scrapped - hence all the memes of people questioning why they should bother watching Aquaman 2 or The Flash if "it didn't matter"? (Apparently watching a film for the entertainment of the film itself isn't a thing anymore)
>>214875313Gunn already doing that. He’s only giving each character one movie. Man of Tomorrow will feature Supergirl, Lobo and The Gang. Supergirl will definitely move into the Legion of Superheroes like the comic and with WW movie in worksa Trinity movie is going to happen.
>>214875340kinda crazy how the flash ends on a bad ending and the entire Snyderverse ended on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6RaEaE8XSo
>>214875086Even if Superman earned 100 percent domestically, $600 million for a $300 million budget is not much. And Man of Steel did not earn only overseas - the difference is only in proportion.
>>214875380Source where Gunn said he was rebooting the entire DCU? Why did he have JL in season 1 Peacemaker? WW 3 not getting made had nothing to do with Gunn. It was cancelled because Jenkins left after WB rejected her ideas for part 3 because they did not want another WW84. Gal being replaced most definitely has to do with her being guaranteed over 12 million for a third movie
>$300 million budgetHow brown can a coping disneyshill be?
This old pedojew queer is now arguing with anonymous fans online at 2amIt's over. Total Snyder victory. Total gunnjeet death.
>>214875631nigger, it’s called marketing. I rounded up to $300 million, but according to Google, marketing was around $125 million. It's possible that budget + marketing was $350 million.
>>214875602Going to ignore Superman had a MCU movie put out two weeks after which took half its theaters and all its IMAX? Everyone was saying F4 was going to destroy Superman and it didn’t happen but held strong only dropping 58%. That right there likely had WB popping champagne.
>>214875631Five minutes googling->With a production budget estimated at around $225 million, and a marketing push adding roughly another $200 million, the total cost of the James Gunn Superman project neared $425 million. It became one of the most expensive films in the 2025 superhero movie lineup, putting major pressure on the movie to perform both critically and financially.
>>214873682>Stop pretending that Superman deserves more than 7.Even Angry Joe gave it a 6.
>>214872723>picrelSucks. I like watching Cena
>>214875684Is 'everyone ' in the room with us right now?Memes aside, Fantastic Four did hurt Superman. Not destroy, but hurt.Both movies are garbage though - over $200M budgets for bad box office and reception.
>>214872723Not long, and it should have been obvious the moment merger rumors started popping up right after superman failed to set the world on fire
>>214875746F4 launch was confirmed before Supermans was, Gunn's ego got in the way and he actually hurt F4. No one wants to see 2 capeshits back to back, so by rushing his release he fucked over Marvel.Too bad it was a complete flop.
>>214875748I do not support any mergers. I am afraid for HBO and DC.
>>214875407That doesn´t seem like enough. Specially because nobody ever gave a fuck about legion. You need to establish the justice league of this universe first. DC always fucks up because they are always in a rush to catch up. Marvel on the other hand fucks up because they grow over confident and think they can just do whatever.
>>214875701They did not spend 200 million on promotions you brown retard. Wicked had the most historic high promotions ever at 175 million which included two separate Super Bowl commercials, Macy’s Day Parade promotional float and around the clock commercials and add tie ins you couldn’t escape
>>214875785So he lost millions out of spite? Maybe he did hurt F4, but at what price?
>>214875805I am not saying they did, I am saying that there are some rumors. I round op the total price to $300 million.
>>214873481Watching all these shows that relate to each other feels worse than homework.
>>214875701>marketing push adding roughly another $200 millionHahahahahahaha holy shit disneybrowns will just throw random numbers out to cope with defeat, won't they
>>214875785Why you jeered keep pulling shit out ofyour ass? Superman had July date confirmed long before F4. F4 was suppose to come out last November but production delays postponed it. It was then suppose to come out on Valentine’s Day but they decided to put Captain Negro Man out then and put F4 out two weeks after Superman
>>214874022>>214874137There's the theory that Reeves deals with a serious health issue (cancer), hence why all the delays and silence.
>>214873639>And he tried to include Reeve's batman and he said no.thats a lie, he explicitly didnt want reeves batman and he wanted his own cereal box retarded batman like supes- hes also the reason cavil didnt come back
>>214875930I hope his Batman doesn't end up being some over the top schizophrenic guy that everyone else just laughs at and entertains because they treat him like a make a wish kid. When I think about how a Gun Batman would be like that's all I can picture with the tone of his movies.
>>214875930> own cereal box retarded batmanWay Gunn describes his version, he’s going to be a full on lunatic
>>214875984Gunn was responsible for Blue Beetle, and they call Batman a fascist in that movie. Don't expect anything good.
>>214875998So he's going to copy snyder after seeing how much he doesnt understand dc with superflop?
>>214875856So what's the real number and why did the article lie?
>>214876026> So he's going to copy snyder I bet you’re just brown enough to think Snyder invented this concept
>>214876070Entire thread “don’t believe actual reported stuff, my source is trust me bro”
>>214876130On film? Yes. We had goofy batmen until nolan turned him gay and sneed turned him into an deranged edgelord
>>214876194TAS and Arkham are serious, while not going full realism.
>>214876276This. Gunn statement is you have to be insane to be a grown man drawing up in a bat suit and going around beating up people. I really doubt it will be edgelord shit. Not Gunn’s style at all. Probably more meta
>>214875619https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dc-movies-james-gunn-peter-safran-1235259792/https://comicbook.com/dc/news/warner-bros-official-name-dc-movies-films-universe-dceu-dcu-explained/>Warner Bros. Discovery’s announcement that the DC Films brand is being relaunched as “DC Studios” came with quiet-but-firm secondary re-branding announcement: The DCEU (DC Extended Unvierse) will be officially referred to as the “DCU” or “DC Universe” going forward in the era of DC Studios.https://deadline.com/2022/12/superman-henry-cavill-james-gunn-ben-affleck-dc-1235199737/>DC bosses Peter Safran and James Gunn tonight officially made known their plans for their first movie under their regime: It’s Superman, a script that the latter is currently writing about the Man of Steel’s early days. It’s not an origins story, but a new actor will be sought to play Supermanhttps://www.imdb.com/news/ni63942863/>DC Co-CEO James Gunn Unveils New DC RebootWere you just living under a rock while all this was happening?
>>214876337>you have to be insane to be a grown man drawing up in a bat suit and going around beating up peopleThis is retarded when your fucking universe is full of costumed people beating up criminals.
>>214875619>WW 3 not getting made had nothing to do with Gunnhttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/wonder-woman-3-not-moving-forward-dc-movies-1235276804/>Sources say that Jenkins recently submitted her treatment, co-written with Geoff Johns, and that Gunn and Safran, as well as Warner Bros. Pictures co-chairs and co-CEOs Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy, broke the news to the filmmaker, telling her the project — as it stood — did not fit in with the new (but still unfolding) plans.I don't understand why you're just making stuff up?
>>214876337Oh, so Gunn is one of these retards that neither get nor like comics. Fucking awesome.
>>214876342You literally just confirmed what I already said! He was only rebooting Superman. The Flash was going to do a soft reboot where Gunn’s Superman would be in the new timeline. Had Batgirl not been total ass, Keaton’s Batman would’ve been in the the new timeline training Batgirl. WW 3 being canceled was because of Jenkins leaving and Gal costing too much. Why pay a shit actress like Gal over 12 million when can just get unknown and pay her less then a million. Why Margo Robbie out as Harley.
>>214876070We don't know, we do know the movie made a tidy profit all things considered
it's funny how this board is an echo chamber of sucking off old movies that didn't make money or were rated bad, but when you don't like one that is made today your only argument is "IT BOMBED THEREFORBEIT ITS BAD".i hate indians
>make superman movie with superman villain>make batman movie with batman villain>make wonder woman movie with ww villain>make team up movie>repeat pattern to add more major characters characters, group minor characters into showsholy shit I saved the DCU!!!
>>214876503>He was just confirming immediately that he was casting a new Batman and Superman and rebooting the universe!Did you actually read it?>Had Batgirl not been total ass, Keaton’s Batman would’ve been in the the new timeline training Batgirl.Gunn wasn't involved in Batgirl. He was explicitly asked about Keaton's involvement and said a generic "well there's multiworld shit". He said from the offset that he was recasting Batman too.>WW 3 being canceled was because of Jenkins leaving see >>214876383Jenkins submitted a pitch and was told to fuck off.Stop making shit up.
What's with this site that it attracts so many snydertards?
>>214876699you are arguing with curry smelling Sneeder indians, there is no point using facts.
>>214876635This makes no sense.>Man of Steel had a domestic box office gross of $291,045,518 as of its release in 2013. This domestic gross represented 43.4% of the film's total worldwide gross of $670,145,518. >ames Gunn's Superman film crossed the $300 million domestic box office milestone in late July 2025, becoming the first solo Superman film to do so and surpassing the domestic lifetime gross of Man of Steel ($291 million). By early August, it had reached over $320 million domestically, surpassing Jurassic World Rebirth at the time and becoming the third-highest-grossing film of 2025 in the U.S. So, James Gunn’s Superman earned about $28.95 million more domestically than Man of Steel.
>>214876790Are you implying Zazlav and Gunn are not employing Indian shills?
>>214874483A good year for corporations and investors to consider buying up WB
>>214876822i just hate indians from the bottom of my heart
>>214876807>This makes no sense.Yeah because you're brown and coping, but that's a (you) thing.
>>214873481>people watched the second season of a show without the firstJeets actually believe this
>>214876699Jenkins was not blocked off. Original reports she is now denying is she got butthurt because WB was not goinglet her have full control after 84. Jenkins is a massive pain in the ass and walked off Star Wars for similar shit. Regardless, DC was a fucking mess and was stupid to even try to salvage Snyderverse. Gunn had nothing to do with WW84, Aquaman 2 and Shazam 2 being ass. Not Ezra shit that caused The Flash to bomb. And it was smart move not pay Gal over 12 million to continue as WW considering now everyone hates her and it would’ve been another Ezra situation
>>214877093>Source: I made it the fuck up
>>214874410Superman was essentially a team up movie and made nothing.
>>214877338The Justice Gang don't count. Mab of Tomorrow is when the REAL team up happens
>>214876912Again, nigger, shills claim that Superman earned more than Man of Steel because it performed better domestically, but it only made about $30 million more in the U.S. while earning less overall. On top of that, Man of Steel earned a huge amount from product placement, which, while soulless, covered roughly $100 million of the budget.
>>214877398Imagine if Gunn had made Spider-Man 1. He would have skipped the entire origin; the build-up, the bite, Peter discovering his powers, the responsibility arc, all of it. Instead, Punisher, Hulk, and Hawkeye would already be popping up fighting Rhino
>>214877398Peacemaker is so so popular
>>214877244> Wonder Woman 3 reportedly a no-go because of creative differences with director Patty Jenkins>A new report says that DC Studios heads James Gunn and Peter Safran were not involved with pulling the plug and that Jenkins stepped away from the projecthttps://www.avclub.com/wonder-woman-3-patty-jenkins-departs-dc-studios-1849875199> Warner Bros Didn’t Cancel ‘Wonder Woman 3,’ Patty Jenkins Walked Off the Project (Exclusive)https://www.thewrap.com/wonder-woman-3-patty-jenkins-what-really-happened/> De Luca and Abdy spoke to Jenkins first and communicated that they didn’t get the treatment, didn’t think it was the right direction for the franchise and asked Jenkins if she would consider pitching something else for the IP in another direction.> According to one insider, Jenkins refused and let De Luca and Abdy “know that they were wrong, that they didn’t understand her, didn’t understand the character, didn’t understand character arcs and didn’t understand what Jenkins was trying to do.”>To underscore her point, according to the first insider, Jenkins sent an email to De Luca that ended with a link to the Wikipedia definition of “character arc.”
>>214877443Idiotic comparison. Spider Man 1 was the first big screen Spider Man movie! Noticed skipped an origin movie with Holland’s Spider Man. Or origin movie with The Batman
>>214874693>>214874901You’re right about momentum. Aquaman and Wonder Woman made a lot of money, but WB failed to capitalize on it.
>>214877093Jenkins own words disagree.
>>214877093>Gunn had nothing to do with WW84, Aquaman 2 and Shazam 2 being ass
>>214877093Directly blames James Gunn involvement.
Weird how WB gets the most concern troll threads, despite being behind things like Barbeheimer last year and doing well this year. I wonder who has it out for them.
>>214877559have you considered giving this kind of business advice in threads for Disney or Paramount or Sony?
>>214872884DC's entire setup is doomed if they're trying to ape Marvel's. It's honestly a hallmark of how reality worked before clownworld. If your competitor is THE McDonald's or THE Mouse, you fill a niche they can't or aren't. No one wants Robert Downey Junior but it's Lex Luthor. I don't know what the DCCU could have done to hit 200-500 million a movie, which is what they should have aimed for, but I DO know their cartoons line up are /comfy/. They have good young adult cartoons. Marvel has NO interesting cartoon shows or movies for the whole family except for the Black Spiderman things. So, it seems like DC's niche is that it's /comfy/.
>>214877503>>214877639She even called Gunn on his bullshit.
>>214877639Do you think Jenkins is going to admit to being a pain in the ass to work with?
>>214877503>>214877855The other one to imply that Gunn ruined his movie was the director of the Shazam movies.Seems to me that the underlying cause was James Gunn messing with all the movies in production thinking he knows better.
>>214877855James Gunn is a known bullshiter, dude.
>>214877753Disney knows hos to use momentum. Paramount is so big, it's about to swallow WB, so it knows what it's doing
Who cares if peacemaker flopped at least it’s not important for gunn’s univ-
>says that the DCU will have different genres and age ratings for everyone to enjoy>literally the sequel to the kid friendly Superman is gay orgy Peacemaker S2 and you need to watch that to follow into Superman 2The idea was fine but Gunn is a retard. You cant follow up a story if parts of it are contained in unnecessarily edgy and crude gen x slop. Peacemaker should be completely separated from the main plot.Also he didnt read the memo and everything is "le chuds white people" when people, specially from other countries than america are getting fucking tired of American sensibilities. >creature commands vs the evil white chuds>peace maker vs the evil white chuds>superjew, guy and lex are all "white" dumb retards meanwhile the negro terrific is the only one competent and heroicHe is not completely bad, he just cant let go his 1990 politics.
>>214877881Gunn admitted he gave notes and made changes in the last DCEU batch of movies. But now he pretends he didnt.You can see exactly which parts he added in Flash, aquaman and such if you can recognize his kind of comedy.
>>214877639I don’t care what she has to say. She has a history of being a pain in the ass and wanting full control and nobody questioning her. Fact you are in such cope mode you’re defending this bitch and thinking WW3 wouldn’t have been anything but ass is hilarious
>>214877881>My movie bombed. It’s Gunn’s fault
>>214878458So Jenkins and all the other directors that complained, including the actors, were all wrong. Gunn is the only one being honest, despite he constantly lying before? >>214878488It is Gunn's fault when Gunn is demanding rewrites and reshoots to add shitty gags and jokes.
>>214877834> She even called Gunn on his bullshit.She sure sounds like a peach to work with
>>214878605She seemed fine with Zack Snyder, though.
>>214878624She even bitches about Snyder and how she didn’t get to pick her Wonder Woman and passively aggressively basically said she got stuck with Gal
>>214875160>>Gunn jumps on the opportunity and refuses to greenlight production until there's a completed script, claiming no film enters production until thenhow is this a bad thing?
>>214879412It's not in itself. It's inconsistent/hypocritical though since he just greenlit his own sequel despite it not having a completed script, and it was clearly just an excuse to explain why The Batman 2 wasn't in preproduction
