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When does the golden age of anime kino start and when does it end?
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>>214885485
where's frieren?
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I love Akira so much.
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>>214885485
Watch more, pleb.
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>>214885541
kill yourself zoomer
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2004 is the last good movie Miyazaki made so I'd say it's a good cutoff point
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>>214885541
what?
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>>214885485
December 25, 1926 to January 7, 1989
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDFWHD9cm-E
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>>214885596
he's so cool riding his awesome bike. I wish I was like him
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>>214885485
1982-2002
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>>214885485
started with AnJ and ended with nagatoro
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>>214885888
>dood a heckin' wholesome adorkable anime girl saying nigger!!!
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>>214885658
>>214885694
>>214885811
>>214885881
ahhhh
boomer anime
go back to >>>a please
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>>214885957
There has been 1 good anime made in the last 20 years. It's a dead medium
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>>214885949
its okay if you dont know
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcK9Eghsfq8
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>>214885485
it began on Jul 6, 2025 and it ended today
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>>214886031
Pleb.
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>>214886031
>It's a dead medium
This. anime is complete trash
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>>214885485
it started when i was born. it will end when i die.
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>>214885485
>When does the golden age of anime kino start and when does it end?

This one: >>214885881

1980's all the way to maybe 2002 or 2004.
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>>214885485
People who obsessively enjoy anime about little girls are just tranny freaks who self-insert as them.
Not sure why the people on this website think they have any ground to stand on making fun of trannies.
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>>214885485
>When does the golden age of anime kino start and when does it end?

Started in 1980s.

Ended in early 2000s when the last anime studio abandoned animation cels and switched to digital animation.
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>>214886031
space dandy?
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>>214886137
>Bland, generic looking waifushit
it's kind of weird how the fans of a medium that can produce such elaborate, unique visuals are so content with stuff like this
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The good times ended the moment this whore showed up, but I suspect the newfags don't understand that.
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I feel as though anime and hip hop are similar in that they are huge genres with oceans of content but only really have like 20 or so masterpiece entries and everything else is really bad
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>>214886031
>nostalgia bias
both periods are too different
>boomer anime has soul because creators fought to prove anime was serious
>zoomer anime is more commercial, they know audience is already waiting for the next show, so creation efforts are more driven by sales rather than the message
So I can enjoy cowboy bebop and frieren at the same time. I learnt to move on and enjoy things
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>>214885811
what happened jan 7 1989 and that would mean gits and bebop aren't golden age
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>>214885949
faggot
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>muh cowboy bebop!!
you can just make it up for yourselves, gaijins
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It started Roughly after the Hobbit animated movie came out, it's not anime, but it's the first production by the studio that made some of the most impactful anime of all time, but it ends not suddenly, but fades around a vague spread of years and it involves this place actually haha.

Sometimes after Techni Moyo (in space, the final one), Outlaw star, Steel Angel Kurumi, Evangelion, Cowboy bebop, blue Submarine No 6, and specifically the Viper GTS hentai games and the Mezzo Forte there was a switch from a mostly Adult, semi experimental, bold statement to animation for the end of all things great

Azumanga Daioh in 2002.

It started the "Gute Girls doing Cute things" while "drawn softly" leads directly into lucky star and K-On! and we basically haven't moved on since.

4chan in the 00s was fully onboard with this until the 10s when it was obvious this wasn't temporary and we lost all the pervy, weird, more artistically interesting stuff for slop aimed for girls that didn't watch it.

2 things: hentai unironically got better during this time and that's why I say Anime quality got worse where Hentai pushed the genre.

The other thing is that Studio Trigger has been basically a one studio army to try and bring something from the original era of anime back.

So roughly between 2002-2007 is when anime stopped being the Golden age
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>>214885957
can't. banned for calling someone a tranny
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>>214885485
From Urusei Yatsura (1981) to Cyber City Oedo 808 (1990)
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>>214885485
it ended in 2008, when the last episode of code geass aired. it's been downhill ever since
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>>214885485
Probably mid 80s to mid 00s.
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The minds that made great things moved on and no competent hand took the rudder. Current culture is entirely derivative and soulless.
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Before the Financial Crisis happened
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>>214885485
Perhaps the switchover from analog to digital animation or alternatively from DVD to Blu-ray.
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>gaijins in 2020s be like: ''guys, modern anime is so shit. what happenned to the golden era of anime in the 90s?''
>gaijins in 1990s be actually like: ''eww wtf is this jap shit? it looks weird''
This is why Japs don't actually care about your opinions at the end of the day.
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>>214886342
Hirohito died, ending the Showa era. The asset bubble popped not long after and Japan never recovered.
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>>214886931
>culture is entirely derivative and soulless
As much as I agree, the problem is that current culture derives from these greats who derived from more foundational material that wasn't the same exact medium that they operate. Now what we have are people making anime solely inspired by anime and things anime adjacent, creating empty echoes of their inspirations, bereft of the meat that inspired their inspirations.
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>>214886609
cowboy bebop is a good anime, tranny
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>>214885485
Whenever the color palette changed
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Millennials are such losers LMAO
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>>214885485
Akira is my favorite anime of all time.. The only thing butthurt haters gripe about Akira is “muh story” when even if that were an actual issue. And it’s not, it’s just that it was made in a time when anime was still finding its way, so that’s why you also saw some that are just straight up Arthouse flicks like Angel’s Egg. Ideas like perversion of innocence, wielding ultimate power, and being raised in a dystopian futuristic society are all there, they are just mostly told visually, not with a character exposition dumping how they feel and in return the other characters dumping how they feel. And yes, people who do stick to just watching shonen shit like One Piece and DBZ are usually fucking retarded and need their hand held so I don’t take any midwit opinions seriously on Akira. But, yeah. This is the only thing that they can be a contrarian about because the soundtrack, and visuals are all 10/10
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>>214886760
>the hobbit guys made thunder cats
weren't a lot of the manga artists at the time also hentai artists?
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>>214887046
>Now what we have are people making anime solely inspired by anime and things anime adjacent, creating empty echoes of their inspirations, bereft of the meat that inspired their inspirations.
Only in your head.
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>>214886931
>moved on
I think it's more that a bunch of them got old and retired and the move to digishit and targeted to more younger viewers after pokemon and stuff
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>>214886971
Akira and GitS only made money because Americans bought tapes, they both didn't do particularly well in japan
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>>214887150
Yes, and that practice ENDED around the the same time period I mentioned (2002-2007) by the manga industry because the amount of non hentai related talent was exploding, for better or worse. I think we should go back to that.

It's also worth pointing out most of the same Hentai directors worked on most of the 90s anime productions which is why they look similar in a sexy kind of way.
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>>214887046
>>214886931
happened with comics too
old comics were based on greek myths, the authors barely disguised fetishes and grant morrison stealing shit from that argentianian book about the place with no nouns. from the 90s on most comics have been written by comics fans who were inspired by comics and who are rehashing comics
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>>214886971
It’s really only kids who like modern anime. If you’re over 30 and watch Chainsaw Man or Demon Slayer or JJK I just hope you’re a low IQ mexican because lmao
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>>214887251
Watch more, pleb.
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>>214887147
copypasta material.
Any retard who bleats about how Akira is 'boring' or has 'bad pacing' is just showing their ass.
Seeing it as a 11 year old boy I perfectly saw myself and my friends in Kaneda and his gang. To this date in anime or otherwise I have yet to see a more accurate depiction of boys that age quarrelling through growing pains and completely failing to see outside themselves.
The dream and flashback scenes hurt good.
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>>214887266
>Demon Slayer
Genuinely a show for toddlers with a shit ton of blood. Idk how anybody actually likes it without feeling like a giant retard.
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>>214886760
>Azumanga Daioh in 2002.
I like your take. And yes, this show was the turning point. Coinciding with the switch away from cels. Are those two events related? One being the consequence of the other, or just total coincidence and we would still be in moeblob era if digital animation never happened? Hard to say.
>t. early 90's animu oldfag
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>>214887251
It's happening to practically every creative field. Thanks nepotism.
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>>214887135
>zoom zooms have never seen good anime
>>214887147
akira's pacing is bad, the final act is rushed and both akira and gits suffer from being films and not ovas in terms of story. the art is great, but the actual plots are very much concept over substance. though they are good, they are better than modern sloppa and they are better than things like blade runner. but there are other high concept films from around the time like the thing or alien/aliens that do a better job at being narratively interesting rather than someone coming up with a good premise and then in Akira's case truncating the shit out of it to fit 2 hours and in GitS case cutting all the fat out of it and then realizing you only have like an hours worth of stuff and trying to stretch it to 80 mins.
both films also probably suffer from being too influential. we know how much everything that came out after stole from them and we know the matrix stole a lot and is a more interesting narrative
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>>214887251
>>214887341
I have a little hope. I think more and more people are waking up to this fact and challenging themselves to break out of the comfort of the entertainment equivalent of candy and try and search for loftier shit to draw inspiration from.
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>>214886760
>we lost all the pervy, weird, more artistically interesting stuff for slop aimed for girls that didn't watch it.
Uh-huh.
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>>214887238
I know the pokemon comic guy just drew hardcore porn but that's like also the best pokemon media outside the games
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>>214887281
Spot on. Otomo said Akira is ultimately about Kaneda and Tetsuo’s friendship and the final conflict with the two makes it obvious. Tetsuo could kill Kaneda very easily, he even protects him from the SOL satellite cannon. I recently watched it after years(I was about 12 when I found a VHS at a yard sale) and what I took away from it is that it’s about Tetsuo stepping out of Kaneda’s shadow and finding his own way in the world.
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>>214887369
>zoom zooms have never seen good anime
You're dumb AND old LMAO
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>>214887455
you are gay and retarded
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>>214887135
You'll get old too. You're here, which means it's too late for you. You are doomed to watch all good things pass you by, until you wake up 35 with no intimacy, career or experience.
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>>214887477
Hate to burst your bubble.
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>>214887476
Seethe, loser.
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I’ll say it

There really is no better anime than Bebop
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>>214887535
dial 8 and then 41
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>>214887477
Sorry that happened to you. You are still young with plenty of time to switch things up. Godspeed, Anon.
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>>214887554
You jack it to troons.
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>>214885957
this. i will not join nor engage with the shaking of one's fist at clouds boomery when there are plenty of current day gems just laying around
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>>214887266
>Chainsaw Man
My friends who got into anime in their late 20s with 'slay the giants' or whatever (the one that turned out to lowkey be fascist) and never saw bebop, NGE, GITS or AKIRA can't shut up about how great chainsaw man is. Pls tl;dr me on it
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>>214887369
>suffer from being films and not ovas
Akira probably wouldn’t even exist as we know it if that were the case. I suppose I’m in the minority but I prefer Akira’s arthouse tier ending. It’s a pretty basic manga and Tetsuo is a shittier character in the manga, making him a tragic villain than just full on antagonist was a good choice, Kaneda falling into the merge it’s very reminiscent of 2001 when Dave travels to Jupiter which was also a better choice considering that the story wasn’t even finished
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>>214887573
turn your monitor on. you are getting confused by your own reflection
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>>214885485
Starts with Gundam (1979) and ends with Cowboy Bebop (1999)
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>>214887452
>finding his own way in the world.
By turning into a blob? The movie is just people yelling "ultimate powah" for the second half.
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>>214887621
I don’t remember anything about it besides the action scenes were god awful CGI.
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>>214885485
2025 is golden age
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>>214887635
would have been better if they showed the wrecked city. they just rushed into the ending. I see GitS and Akira like I see the 2000s LotR films in that we will never get a better adaptation than the one we did, but they are still flaws and could have been better. No one will ever make Akira look that good, but it could have done with another hour or as like a 3 part ova. I feel like GitS is somehow stretching out too little material and then rushing the parts that are super great.
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>>214887683
He turns into a baby blob then merges with Akira to for a whole new universe. Kaneda basically “keeps” this pocket dimension with him and I always interpreted that as they go their separate ways in life but still hold on to the memories of the good times in adolescence
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>>214886760
thats pretty accurate. I remember all of the moe stuff it is nice to watch sometimes but its never moved on.
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>>214887498
>posts here
Ah, but you're happy and successfull?

>>214887564
I look back & it was basically predestined. But I'm comfortable and able to pretend to be a normie and I'm in good shape, so It's whatever. But 35 feels pretty late to 'turn it around'. The women my age have more baggage than I do and want someone who did more with themselves than me. And my family/friends all jumped on the age gap hate bandwagon. And I'm shallow. I just can't love someone who isn't physically attractive to me, I've tried. Idk how I come back from this.
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>>214887778
>He turns into a baby blob then merges with Akira to for a whole new universe.
Le 2001 ending. Did Kubrick see Akira? He probably laughed his ass off.
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>>214887147
I don't care how popular Akira gets it really is one of the best fucking anime to ever exist. It 10000% deserves its popularity unlike all this other garbage. Same with GITS
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>>214887778
You are a literary and deep person, and you're finding meaning where there isn't any because this thing resonated with you when you were young.
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>>214887821
>And my family/friends all jumped on the age gap hate bandwagon
I said the age gap meme about breaking bad in front of my mom and she said that was normal, hell she said jerry seinfeld dating a high schooler was fine
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>>214887871
Considering he thought Bambi was too shocking for children he’d probably have a heart attack over Akira. Yes I know that Akira isn’t for kids but animated films for adults with the level of quality as Akira were nonexistent and people just assumed it was for children
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Anime was ruined by Dragon Ball Z. Gundam and Ashita no Joe were its true golden age.
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>>214887883
I hadn’t really thought about it much since seeing it like 20 years ago. It was just my interpretation after a rewatch. What’s YOUR problem?
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>>214888031
>breaking bad
>age gap
Wat? And yeah, I know some older women 50+ who don't give a fuck about it. Too bad I'm not attracted to them.
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>>214887452
>Tetsuo could kill Kaneda very easily, he even protects him from the SOL satellite cannon
It's always interesting how Tetsuo basically only lands maybe one indirect hit on Kaneda, even in the manga.
I still bounce between it being a mental block from his inferiority complex or him just being unable to bring himself to do it.
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>>214888119
I don't remember the exact copypasta numbers but walt's like 35 and his wife is 19 when they presumably started dating unless he just knocked her up right away. no one would get mad at me or give a fuck if I dated a zoomette
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>>214888140
>I still bounce between it being a mental block from his inferiority complex or him just being unable to bring himself to do it.
He is simply inferior. He wiffed.
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>all these bitter joyless old men itt
I hope I age more gracefully than this. I feel bad for you guys.
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>>214888245
This. He pretty much expected Kaneda to grovel at his feet but when that didn’t happen he bitches out.
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>>214888266
>incompetent seething over anons talking about their favorite classic anime
>IMNOTBITTERIMNOTANGRY
Calm down, Billy.
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>>214886971
>gaijins in 1990s be actually like: ''eww wtf is this jap shit? it looks weird''
Did they though? I always thought it was the time when being a weeb was actually acceptable considering the amount of experimental anime that came out at the time which was perceived as cool.
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>>214886971
>gaijins in 1990s be actually like

>Whoa cool, look at all the Japanamation they have here
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>>214888266
you wear women's clothes, broccoli hair
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>>214888326
DBZ was cool, I think other animes were seen as weird kid stuff. like how people grew out of pokemon and power rangers
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>>214888266
Life turns to fuck fast. Make the right decisions and don't spit on opportunities - their availability slows down drastically.
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>>214888326
Edgy stuff like Wicked City and Legend of the Overfiend were very popular with the goth and punk subcultures in the early 90s. At least where I grew up.
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>>214885485
The golden age was the 80s and 90s. Some great stuff was made in the 00s but the decay was obvious with oversaturation of derivative otaku shit
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>>214888245
>>214888280
chill on my dawg Tetsuo
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>>214887621
It's edgy, violent and pervy. Probably the closest thing we have of a 90's anime.
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>>214888554
Except it’s not because the action scenes are lazy CGI.
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>>214888554
Well the manga is good
Visually, the anime is dogshit.
Fujimoto mogs his own anime with his snappy action and physical comedy, and his color pages.
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>>214888609
>his snappy action and physical comedy, and his color pages.
*Gritty action, edgy humor and black-and-white pages.
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>>214888691
I can't post on /a/, I'm banned for calling someone a tranny
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>>214885485
I don't know when it starts but it ended with Redline.
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>>214888266
My main advice is to minimize your time spent online. That's how i ended up like this.

>>214888299
No he's right kinda
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>>214888691
>2025
>le bullshit man meme
Get out of here, unc
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>>214885485
It ended with VHD Bloodlust, probably.
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>>214888056

Akira's gang warfare start immediately plunges you into the teen gang's world and then it's all downhill from there. There are other interesting parts in the film but nothing else comes close to the first 15 minutes or so. If anything, Kubrick would have recognized that this strategy (front-load your film with violence and young gangsters in weird/cool outfits, knock 'em over the head right at the top so they stay for the rest of it) is based directly on Clockwork Orange.
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>>214888140
A combination of Tetsuo's subconscious holding him back and Kaneda being an absolute mad lad who won't stay down, continuously throwing himself into danger with zero self regard for the sake of knocking some sense into his buddy.
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>>214886188
or pedos
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>>214885485
There was some great stuff in the 80s... but the 90s is just banger after banger after banger.
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>>214888554
>Probably the closest thing we have of a 90's anime.
Fuck off.
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>>214889279
it's the lack of shadow
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>>214889279
Amazing there is no sense of movement at all. It's so flat, so non-existent.
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>>214885485
>when does it end?
end of eva
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>>214889421
it's the shadows, someone posted old rank and bass sword and sorcery stuff and it's the same. ghost in the shell 2 does it a bit too
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>>214887621
>fascist
Are all /tv/ tards little bitches like you? I've never spent much time here but I'm getting big /co/ vibes.
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>>214890292
there's been a yuro tranny raid for the past 2 weeks, possibly longer
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I can never get behind these threads because even old anime is pure kitsch aesthetics wise, and the writing is terrible and unsubtle. It's made by and for autistic people, that's why every show and film has no complexity and tells you exactly how to feel, why everything needs to be explained, every internal monologue, villain's reasoning, flashback flashback flashback, etc.

Grow the fuck up and watch something good like Marketa Lazarova
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>>214890396
>Midwita Loserosa
Pleb freak.
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>>214887147
Angel's Egg is insanely overrated.
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>>214889391
>>214889421
>>214889954
It's not shadows, it's a combination of the poor cinematography and animation. Even though the character is supposed to be the focus of the scene, none of the movement is actually dynamic or emphasized properly because there's no weight to his motions. The dude is sliding around the screen spastically, but the camera makes it look like he's hardly covering any distance or exerting any amount of strength at all.
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>>214886971

Anime, as in clearly a japanese product made in japan and meant for japanese audience but brought here and people were aware it was not an american cartoon, has been on tv in america since the 60s.
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>>214890396
>3 hour yuro film that's not in english
that sounds fucking terrible
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>>214885485

1977-2007, + or - a few.
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>>214890745
The best of anime is on par with videogame shlock
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>>214890868
yurop has not produced a single good kino. if a movie isn't in english, it's automatically unwatchable trash
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>>214886760
Yeah, I think that's a pretty spot on analysis. Topcraft animated The Hobbit, The Last Unicorn, Flight of Dragons and Thundercats for Rankin Bass. These were all amazing gems from their time. I remember enjoying some of the moeblobs in the 00s, Lucky Star, K-ON! and Haruhi were all fun. Then they just kept coming out with more, and more, and more... Same thing with the isekai shit. Inuyasha and .hack were novel, but by the 2020s it's like... Okay guys, can we try just some traditional fantasy that doesn't involve middle schoolers traveling to another world?
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>>214890868
You are a midwit, lil bro.
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>>214890868

Video games used to be good too.
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>>214891001
>can we try just some traditional fantasy that doesn't involve middle schoolers traveling to another world?
Ranking of Kings
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>>214885485
for japs it starts in the 80s and ends in the early 90s, for everyone else it starts in the mid 90s and ends in the late 00's.

For japanese businessmen it begins in the 2010's and is still going.
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>>214891001

> Topcraft got split up after bankruptcy to make up studio ghibli and PAC and a few years later basically got recombined after being bought by Disney to animate all their tv shit during the 90s and beyond

Such a tragic story for a talented crew.
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>>214891001
I feel like inuyasha is especially novel but looking it up it looks like the lady who wrote it wrote another very popular anime and borrowed heavily from some historic japanese novel
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>>214885541
For me it started in the 80s, peaked in 1995 with Evangelion and died around 2007, maybe.
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Yo
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>>214891268
Rumiko Takahashi wrote some of the most popular manga for decades. Uresei Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku, Ranma 1/2 and Inuyasha having all been huge in their time.
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>>214891294
Yeah, I'd stretch it a bit but just barely- I'd put it around late 80s until late 00s. I'd definitely say the 90s were arguably the best decade for anime.
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>>214890396
>I'm cool watching a 3.5 hour black and white movie from the europoor!!!
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>>214887422
Exception, not the rule. Good point tho
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>>214885485
>start
1981
>end
1998
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>>214886279
I'm with you on
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>>214892084
*this one
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>>214891505
kind of crazy how prolific female manga writers are compared to women in the US in comics and cartoons, also lol at that pic
>>214891573
yuropoors don't have any culture
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>>214885485
>start
when the first anime (you) like was released
>ends
when the last anime (you) like was released
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>>214885485
Akira and GITS are complete nonsense that look and sound great.
Bebop is all over the place in terms of quality, it's the most inconsistent show watanabe ever did, and his second worst overall.

To answer your question it was approx 85-94
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It's the only one youve seen. We get it.
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So the answer here lies with Gundam and because of that I can give you exact dates when it began and ended.
It started with the recut of the original Mobile Suit Gundam into theatrical compilation movies (specifically the third and final one, debuting March 13th 1982) and ended with the television debut of the all-digital-animation series that is Mobile Suit Gundam SEED (October 5th 2002).
So a golden age of about 20 years.
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>>214885949
>wholesome
at least you will never find the origin of the Nagatoro
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>>214892214
I've walked into reverse /tv/. It's the complete opposite Bebop sucks and feels like a weak first draft compared to Michiko e Hatchin and Samurai Champloo. Akira is unfinished but there if you understand the context of 70's and 80's Japanese youth while GITS is a masterpiece.
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Are people serious about the 80s being the peak of anime? Barely anything relevant came out then. Most of your cool OVAs are pure dogshit.
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>>214892214
ok boomer
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>>214892332
There were some great 80s shows, Macross DYRL is still the greatest animated movie ever made. But there's a lot of delusion out there, and most "muh 80s" fags are really just Toonami retards.
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>>214892332
It's a typical "manime" fan point of view. Very surface level interest or knowledge of anime and cherry picks "the good stuff" from what they were exposed to around the 2000s.
>everything's about school kids
>shows about girls suck
>nothing's sexy or gory anymore
etc
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>>214892332
>>214892382
>>214892386
akira, dragon ball, war in the pocket, voltron, first of the north star, My Neighbor Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service
by the end of the decade japan was in the assets bubble and had a ton of money to burn and they used it on making crazy expensive anime like Akira and they had the ova market at the time so they could make anime they weren't just geared to kids to sell toys and they were making cool japanese shit. sentai peaked around the same time too. most of the talented animators were working into the 90s. by the time the 2000s come around you have the same issues that are plaguing films
>moving from analogue to digishit
>change in the marker means mass appeal commercial shit
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Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust had such elegant, sophisticated and gorgeous animation. It was aristocratic
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>>214892465
90s also has Miyazaki + all those late night anime that continued into the 00s. 1997 alone saw the release of Princess Mononoke, Perfect Blue, End of Evangelion and tv shows like Berserk, Utena, whatever.
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>>214892556
He's just a retard. For him, Akira was the peak. Why? Probably because some youtuber told him it was.
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>>214892581
you are a retard and you have no dick and you wear women's clothing
>>214892556
golden age doesn't mean golden decade, pretty much every post here contains most or all of the 80s and 90s with some posts also adding in the late 70s and early 2000s.
castle in the sky, my neighbor totoro, grave of the firefiles and kiki's delivery service were all 86-89. I don't think anyone on here said only the 1980s
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>>214890396
Baka.
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>>214892493
Anime can't be aristocratic. It's a popular, and usually childish, medium.
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>>214892725
Baka.
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>>214885485
When it came out on VHS in the 90's to when it stopped being hand drawn.
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>>214890396
>that's why every show and film has no complexity and tells you exactly how to feel, why everything needs to be explained,
but when frieren didn't do this, people called it boring.
westoids need to make up their mind.
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>>214892725
by that logic so is film
how much slop has been released this decade alone compared to genuinely good films?
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>>214892725
classical music and sculptures used to be the commissions of bored millionaires throwing a party.
I'm tired of the people prattling on about "art" being unable to reconcile their bias with equating age with inherent value
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>>214885485
1984-2008
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>>214892138
>kind of crazy how prolific female manga writers are compared to women in the US in comics and cartoons,
The US comicbooks industry doesn't pay as well as Manga. The comicbook industry is brutal for a career. Plus women have so many better options for careers.

Comicbook sales are in the toilet since Disney bought Marvel comics too. The comic industry has essentially collapsed.


>also lol at that pic
She's been asked about this several times over the years. People asking about Ranma's sexuality and such. Each time she acts increasingly more annoyed and disgusted.

She said that she made Ranma as a comedy so we could laugh at Ranma's gender switch problems. Nothing else. Anyone thinking other things should be ashamed.
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>>214885485
Starts with Mobile Suit Gundam, and ends with Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.
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>>214891505
Based ranma for giving childhood me cheesecake kino. Redhead ranma was the cat's meow and it enraged the Mexican Puritans so much they canceled all anime. They even had a fake cult member claim on tv that Pikachu meants 1000 times more powerful than god.
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>>214892493
Fuck that other guy, you are right. Hopefully one day the other Manga get brought to the big screen.
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>>214892948
Bible black and la blue girl get into the territory ranma dare not cross.
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Anime is juvenile, you people need to grow up
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>>214885485
cowboy bebop movie is the biggest scam ever.
like 80% of the movie is just reprinted scenes from other movies.
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>>214893666
evil demon lies
(Also the west needs to stop making capeshit before i take what they say the least bit seriously)
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>>214893691
Time to grow up anon. It's not normal to watch chinese cartoons when you are an adult
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>>214889279
bruh what is this 1975 music layering bullshit they are trying here.
literally two layers put ontop of eachother like it's fucking photoshop instead of an actual blended frame.

how the fuck are people not fired for this shit day one? this gives the illusion he is running on air instead of running on the monster like they intended.
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Akira was the worst garbage story I've ever seen.
Wanted to mute that constant stupid fucking screaming.
Art was good though.
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>>214893709
>a lecture on normalcy from the west
wew
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>>214893729
You are not Japanese. Accept that and grow up. Start reading great literature, watch great cinema, stop watching chinese cartoons. Your ancestors are disappointed in you
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>>214893915
>Start reading great literature
i already do (Eastern and Western)
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>>214893925
If you did, you would understand that 99.99 percent of anime is terribly written trash
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>>214893966
Being able to derive value from multiple sources is an important skill anon, you should learn it someday.
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>>214888069
>Ashita no Joe
Based
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Zoomers haven't seen Namakura Gatana, so they're missing out on the golden age. Everything after Astro Boy is a shallow Disney rip-off.
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>>214891088
Ranking of Kings has no right being as good as it is. It sounds like a soppy melodrama for babies, but it has so much going on in the animation department, the world, and the plot. And it's all so simple too, it feels like the kind of thing that might be in a children's novel, but it has a depth and maturity that I didn't expect.
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>>214893338
The problem with gender bender fantasies is that the readers think they would become a super hot woman. And not just a "female version" of themselves.
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>>214890292
>>214890370
No i'm not upset, i was just trying to ID it, it's attack on titan. There was some news about the author supporting fascism or something. Idgaf about that, it was just a detail cuz I couldnt remember the name
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>>214886171
How big is your penis?
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>>214890396
What about metropolis , paprika, perfect Blue, steamboy, angels egg
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>>214885485

Sword Art Online killed anime. Since then 40% of all anime is about Japanese dudes reincarnating into western medieval fantasy worlds with video game rules. Some of it is ok, but there is so much of it that it makes Japanese men seem mentally ill. Like they want to sleep with white women so badly, but the only way they can fantasize about it happening is to be transported to a European fantasy land where they're special and where all the white girls speak Japanese. It's pathetic. Who knew this is where Japanese religious beliefs would land? Just get killed, but then you'll be reincarnated into another world by a Goddess, it'll be fine...
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>>214885485
70s-80s-90s
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>>214885541
In the toilet, where that shit belongs
>>214886329
>So I can enjoy cowboy bebop and frieren at the same time. I learnt to move on and enjoy things
In the same way you can enjoy both food and shit. You trained yourself to get excited in front of products, like a good shitliker.
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>/tv/: ANIME IS JUST GENERIC SHIT FOR FAGGOTS
>also /tv/: time to make a thread on capeshit and the new leonardo dicaprio wypipo bad movie :DDDD
>>214889279
Still hard to believe there are "people" who think this looks good
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>>214892102
*my fellow BIPOC trannoid
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>>214886279
This statement also applies to metal music.
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>>214887593
>gem
>nondescript muh cute moeshit
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>>214888266
You are just praying to stay tasteless, because without tastes you can enjoy everything, starting from dogshit
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>>214892138
>yuropoors don't have any culture
I sincerely hope this cringe doesn't come from an american of all people
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>>214892332
It's 70s to 90s
>>214892386
cope
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>>214892827
>this decade
found the problem
watch stuff made in XX century
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Seeing as nobody has posted the real answer yet
>starts April 1st 1970
>ends December 16th 1997
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>>214885485
1989-2005
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How much of the “golden age” talk in Anime is a function of how limited and curated the selection was in the 80s and 90s for people who weren’t in Japan? 20-30 years ago the only way to see anime for Americans was to go to a hobbyist store or through Adult swim. There was some stuff being passed around on the nascent internet but for the vast majority of people even that wasn’t an option. Either way, by the time you saw something it had already been flagged by the community as actually worth watching and passing along. Nowadays there is a fire hose of anime content available: numerous streaming services which allow American audiences to watch new releases day of; not to mention piracy. As a result we see everything both good and bad so it feels like more shit is being produced when in reality the shit was always there, it just never made it outside Japan.
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>>214896682
Why would anyone compare crap with crap when they can compare what's good... or passes for good?
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>>214892283
Even OG Nagatoro was wholesome in a twisted way. It's not like she ever got raped by animals or cooked and eaten or NTR'd senpai.
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>>214896725
My point is that the proportion of good to crap has probably remained pretty stable over time. The reason it feels different is because 3 decades ago nobody bothered trying to spread the shitty stuff outside Japan.
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>>214888266
You can take solace in the fact that selfawareness is a constant and people do not actually become smarter when they age.
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>>214896952
>My point is that the proportion of good to crap has probably remained pretty stable over time.
My point is that it didn't. It massively degraded as an artform, like anything that goes ultramainstream, massive and a copy of a copy of a copy
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>>214890515
Oshii is overrated in general.
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>>214897057
Bleach is trash, always has been and always will be.
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>>214885485
anime is unironically for subhumans. manga is where it's at if you have any intelligence, or in a better way blue eyes. I'll never understand why people will accept dragged out filler that looks worse and adds nothing besides heckin moralfaggotry!!! manga is the thinking man's medium.
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>>214897124
i will also add that evangelion, besides the movies that people call rebuilds, is for subhuman moralfag pussies. there is no intelligence, meaning or any substance in the original evangelion. it is boring and dogshit and you will only enjoy it if you are weak at heart. Mari is the only good character in the entire series because she understands that being able to control a giant robot and kill giant aliens is the most fun you could have in life and so you should do it and if you die it's whatever just have fun in the moment, you have a fucking licence to kill. but nope moralfaggotry overcomes these SUBHUMANS and they go "B-B-BUT 14 YEAR OLD BOYS WOULD NEVER WANNA KILL ANYTHING IN A GIANT ROBOT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY ARE ALL TIMID AND MEEK AND JUST WANNA DO HOMEWORK AND EXAMS AND HANG OUT WITH FRIEEEEEEENDDDDSSSSS WAAAAAHHHHH". how fucking retarded and meek were you as a 14 year old? 14 year old boys are the biggest edgelords alive.
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>>214885485
Mid 1970's - present.
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>>214885485
anime arguably peaked in the 90's. And 2000 to 2010. And there's good animes on both sides of this period. But less common.
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>>214885485
Cowboy Bebop is incredibly overrated. I do not understand why it has such a following, at least if I'm charitable and don't just dismiss it as nostalgia. It looks good, true, but the writing is the most cliche-ridden piece of work I've ever seen (and no, it's not because these weren't cliches yet at the time, I've seen many of Bebops contemporaries)
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>>214885485
The last good anime was Ergo Proxy, so I’d say it peaked in the 90’s and ended in the early 2000’s.
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>>214885485
/tv/ is full of contrarian faggots who think anime stopped being good the exact moment they stopped paying attention to it.
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>>214888266
I enjoy my life. I have a job, wife and kids. I love watching good anime, films and playing good games. The fact that the vast majority of new anime and media in general is complete garbage does not make me joyless. I simply complain and then watch old media that I've missed. Continue eating poop and convincing yourself it's chocolate.
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>>214897237
Rebuilds are even shittier
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>>214897412
No became stopped being good when they became otakushit cloned cringe made by people that learned anime only from previous anime. All the content is tropey shit with a childish look and content, or childish look and content but tryhard
Liek the shit you posted. It's just another fucking teen maid.
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100% THIS
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>>214897569
>otaku
Always was. Where do you think the hyper-fixation on mechanics, guns, military history, space travel and hot girls came from?
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>>214897895
Specious comment.
Elite people with elite passions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otaku moeshitters hikikomori who think thet the femblob maid of the week is in love with him

same difference between actual nerd that invented games and tech and current day reddit funko pops capeshitters nerds
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>>214898049
Moeshit is such a 2010 complaint. Even Isekaislop is slowly but surely on the way out.
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>>214898203
What's even going to replace isekai? Rom coms?
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>>214898228
The return of nationalistic Momotaro toons.
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>>214889279
At least is not CUUUUUUUUBES
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Starts in 1983 with the first OVA which gave the studios a lot more artistic liberty, ends somewhere in the 90s with the market crash that drastically reduced the funding of the studios. The transition to digital animation to save on labor costs was the final nail in the coffin, ensuring we couldn't go back, but the golden era was already over before then.
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>>214896952
Could be true, but the enshittification is a trend in all types of modern media, not an anime-specific thing. Anime has fared better than western films though.
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>>214888692
>Gritty action
it's a guy with chainsaws swinging around like spider-man.
>edgy humor
it's mostly slapstick and toilet humor, what the fuck are you talking about?
why do anime-onlys want chainsaw man to be so boring and undynamic compared to the manga
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>>214892283
why would i care to know anything about an anime for lonely faggots obsessed with unfunny memes.
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>>214893677
bebop also has a tv show
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>>214893712
yeah it looks like the rank and bass shit
>>214893915
gits is better than most modern sloppa
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Family Guy is single-handedly responsible for much of the death. [adult swim] would have continued with anime schedules forever except that their team realized oh wait… 2 ep’s of cowboy bebop at 10 PM followed by 2 ep’s of trigun… are getting murdered by a 5 AM family guy…

Futurama got higher ratings than all anime but it was comparable at least… family guy would just fucking slay the ratings and it ruined television. It may have also been instrumental with networks figuring out you can just run 13 hours straight of one show and it’ll outperform an actual lineup.

https://youtu.be/J9JzKo-EJ2w?t=402
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>>214896095
we have culturally dominated you yuropoors for a century now
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>>214895794
But cowboy bebop is not shit.
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>>214885485
All three of these are overrated
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>>214896204
>joe boxer guy anime until the banned pokemon episode
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>>214896682
it's not just that. Japan's economy grew a ton during the 70s and was super large during the asset boom of the late 1980s. the reason we have films like Akira, which really should have never been made, was that Japan's economy, especially at the end of the 1980s, had all this "extra" money sitting around so they invested heavily into films and OVAs that wouldn't have otherwise been released and most of the stuff people think is great are films or OVAs. There are all these weird one or two off OVAs from the time period and due to the way they were sold they were marketed more towards adults who had money. once you hit the mid 2000s digishit and streaming basically killed all the cool shit from the 70s-early 2000s and you go back to cheaply produced kids shows designed for mass market appeal.
It's like how the US had that bubble where we made a bunch of kinos during the dot com years of the 2000s but then stopped making kinos after like 2008
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>>214896952
>proportion of good to crap has probably remained pretty stable over time.
it hasn't
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>>214897124
GMS!!!
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>>214897305
space cowboys, retard
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>>214897895
it's like saying comic authors aren't weird. yeah they were weird by until the 1980s they were mostly ripping off other shit or had other influences. from the 1990s on you see an increasing number of comics fans writing comics and they are just aping older comics
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>>214887621
Memories was fantastic. The 2nd piece that was just anti fascist/communism was kinda boring, but it had some unique animation. The space one was gorgeous, and the smelly gas one was great mid 90s animation style.
>>214887266
I'm 33 and entirely white (one 32nd brothertown tribe by marriage), watched chainsaw with my wife. Japanese writing when they try to evoke a somber emotional response is so increadibly shallow and stupid. We liked it because if the comedy. The thinks denhi or whatever is retarded and hilarious. I think Power is a funny retarded asshole.
The fight scenes are all dumb as hell. My favorite episode was when they were trapped in the hotel.
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>>214895484
>Like they want to sleep with white women so badly, but the only way they can fantasize about it happening is to be transported to a European fantasy land where they're special and where all the white girls speak Japanese.
Interesting observation. I always thought it was that Japanese men are so miserable living in Japan and working as salarymen that they want to escape their mundane lives. That they would rather die and reincarnate than live as Japanese salarymen working 12 to 14 hour days in the office.
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>>214903710
she gets naked right after this. Like the next time she's shown she has stripped her uniform off and is just wearing her see through sexual harassment camouflage that doesn't need to be see through.
it's not her skin because the has a neck seam line and she rips the suit during the climax and has skin underneath and it doesn't have to be transparent or skin colored or whatever it is because her gloves, boots, holster, the tank and the other guy's coat all go invisible and they aren't clear
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>>214903847
I still don't care, i want her to crush my skull with her 200 kilo ass
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>>214903589
It's more that videogames have taken over the cultural space and monopolized imagination. Fantasy is no longer strange new worlds, fully realized places that can be explored. Fantasy is just a single player videogame where the loot is an elf slave daughterwife.
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>>214902754
Yep. You can even see the effect their explosive economy had on the stories Anime was telling. One of the reasons that there were so many near future cyberpunk stories was because the Japanese earnestly believed that technologically speaking that was the world they were going to create. And it wasn’t just the Japanese: you can go back and read articles and essays from American newspapers, academics, and think tanks freaking out that Japan was an unstoppable techno juggernaut and that the United States was gonna become a glorified farm that would be allowed to continue existing for the sole purpose of feeding the Japanese who would be to busy building the future. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Japan sputtering out economically coincided with a change in the type of stories they were telling.
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>>214905148
oh absolutely. I think one of the other big parts of it, other than sony and co rapidly advancing tech at the time, was just the actual year. the boom period coincided with the millennium and we saw a pretty big drop off in scifi stories world wide after the year 2000
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All three of these are shit, and you are a faggot loser if you like them. Sorry not sorry.
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>>214905411
you wear your mom's clothes
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>>214905539
Because I don't like your pedophile animations?
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>>214905613
you also pray on school kids, freak
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>>214885485
started in 1987
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>>214905806
ended in 1991
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>>214886760
>Techni Moyo
i think you mean tenchi muyo, only reason I know this is because it was briefly on toonami for some reason
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>>214905762
Projection
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>>214906111
>toonami
wtf is that?
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>>214906311
Used to be on instead of a lot of Adult Swim garbage.
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>>214906219
you are a chomo
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>>214906311
zoom zoom zoom zoomer
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>>214906553
troon troon troon trooner
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>>214906603
yeah that's you. you are a trooner zoomer
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>>214906681
holy cope
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>>214906111
It's good

(and mega OP)



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