Satire and subtlety don't work because if you don't make a bad thing as obviously bad as humanly possible, people will think it's a good thing or agree with it
>>214901538Gunn is a retard that is going to be fired soon don't worry.
>>214901538Happened with Platoon and Avatar
Subtlety doesn't work. Paul Thomas Anderson just made the most overtly Christian movie of his entire career and I've seen people crying on Twitter that it's anti-Christian.
>>214901538>>214901580if you dumb down the media so retards also understand it everyone loses
>>214901538>>214901580This. It's insane how Democrats keep revealing themselves as the real anti-Christians, anti-semites, and racists
Satire is just another word for “retarded”.
No, your mistake is thinking that most/all things can be universally bad for everyone. What you satirize as evil will likely be appealing to groups out there.
>>2149015522 more week. snyder will be back
>alternate universe is much safer, cleaner, and everyone is happier>it's revealed that alternate universe is run by nazis>alternate universe is still safer, cleaner, and everyone is happierJust because you know how the sausage is made doesn't mean it isn't still delicious.
I wouldn't know. I never watched The Man in the High Castle or played Wolfenstein: The New Order. HH
>>214901538What's Gunn trying to say here? That everyone would be much happier and healthier if we didn't have to cater to negroids and their jewish masters? Bit odd for a liberal to admit
It's been 10 fucking years of DRUMPF BAD. I'm so fucking sick of it.
>>214902641is Gunn anti-Trump?I honestly believe Trump went back to movie tariffs because a Japanese anime movie out-grossed Gunn's capeshit.
>>214902236But you also shouldn't have to dumb your shit down because of that. That's just allowing groups of people and the retarded audiences to control what you're making
Angry neonazi
>>214901538I agree with this post and that’s a good thing
>>214901538How do you even gaslight yourself into thinking niggers are so valuable for society when the same fuckers shilling for them often live in gated community far away for themHow do you explain this phenomen
>>214901538
>>214905746Because if you don't then you have to face the realities of the world
>>214901538Maybe if they made made the series like 20 seasons long from the point of view of a regular citizen having to deal with the Nazi bureocracy, economy and the "German effiency" people might have understood that it kinda sucked to live under that regime.The problem with Fascist and Communist regimes is that they existed in the good ol' days of the previous century, so they will obviously look a lot better than anything we have in this shit ass century. Then people start coming to the conclusion that simply switching to Fascism or Communism will fix all our problems, completely missing the fact that liberal democracies used to be even better than those in the good ol' days. Our system just dropped the ball when it had nothing to prove to anyone after the Cold War ended.
>>214904171seething AshkeNAZI
>>214902641>TDSit is a full blown mental illness now,just like the rest these demons believe
>>214901538>Asians blow up my ships>Germans are now my enemiesWhy do we hate these people again?
>>214901538yes. the people are retarded.
>everything is perfect except there are no people of color
>>214901538Anyone who didn't basedface out of their chair and pace around the room during this scene is a chud
>>214901538>Make Nazi America a paradise>Somehow that is bad because no niggersSounds like a perfect place to me
>>214901552hopefully they keep the pedo on and he ends capeshit for good
>Nazi occupied globe>German not mandatory, no propaganda all over, no picture of Hitler hanging in government officeLazy writing. Even Wolfenstein got this correct
>>214906348Based and hulk rules approved
>>214901538captain america winter soldier but without the subtly
>>214902027Free Palestine.
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>>214906348based is really dying outsad
>>214901538>Satire and subtlety don't workits like my mind peanuts are getting warmed up all of a sudden
>>214901538and what is the bad thing exactly?
>>214905870>20 seasons>bureaucracy, economyRetards need their jingling keys, if you don't show them blonde kids playing football and RETVRNing to TRVDITION they'll get filtered before episode three.
>>214901552>>214901538Can someone tell me what's the big deal?I feel like I'm being gaslit or people who didn't watch the show don't know what's happening in the show.
>>214901538There hasn't been anything bad besides the last 2 seconds of the last episode where they chase the black lady.
>>214902637He's a cryptonazi, deep cover
The left cannot comprehend how the right thinks and for the most part they don't understand the normies either. Hence "the left can't meme"The right has better comprehension of the left's positions and far better understanding of the normies. The left spends so much time indoctrinating themselves and unlearning traditional morality that they can no longer relate to hero or villain archetypes. Look at the capeshit flops. The MCU started out okay as far as capeshit goes but the left quickly started to subvert the actual heroes and tried replacing them with race and/or gender swapped mouthpieces. They think that if only we can have Karl Marx's words coming out out of Captain America's mouth the normies will eat it up and then, comrade the revolution can begin. Same thing with the replacement characters. If we can just replace Captain America or Spiderman etc with troons and niggers then everyone will love troons and niggers like they love the original characters. The deliberately don't understand good and evil and treat them as interchangeable based on the politics of the moment.
>>214901538>"t-they're making f-fun of meeee! :'("
>>214909935>The right has better comprehension of the left's positionsthey still think democrats are communists
>>214909991You are
>>214909991McCarthy was right.
>>214901538Grow up. Being an edgy 12-year-old at 40 is cringe
>>214909991You absolutely fucking are.
>>214909426Gunn made an anti Israel movie in Superman which bombed, then his Superman tie in show portrays Nazi life as awesome. They are gonna pull the plug on this old pedo since he can’t bring in enough dosh. It’s over.
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>>214909991Not only marxist fags but retard freaks indulging in the worst type of cultural marxismo-masochism as you fuckers riot for criminal niggers and illegal niggers
>>214909991The dems are just opportunists as are most politicians. You cab be among democrats and shout out shit like "Kill yt" and "death to America" and they won't blink. They might disagree with it but the dems will never speak up. The democrat party is the pudding skin on top of a giant bowl of shit. >>214910203Basically this.
>>214901538I think it's more that liberals fail to understand that they have to actually demonstrate how a thing is bad. If you want to show that a society is awesome and then try to undermine it by making it Nazi that might work if you live in 1950s America which is also awesome, but it hits a lot different in 2020s America which is a disgusting, crime ridden shithole where they have to put everything in the Walmart behind plexiglass because our leadership is so evil now.
>>214909991BLM are explicitly marxist organization and you paraded them around and venerated them at all levels of your ideological wing.
>>214901538yes because people are retarded and they need to have things spoon fed to them or else they'll end up in a cult.
>>214910404This, leftists arenowadays running around shooting up schools, weddings, ICE facilities and murdering college speakers, fully lost in their cult.
>>214910372Using this particular scene they are demonstrating the bad thing when they say that there's no people of color around. That is a leftist jump scare moment. The crime and junkies are not the bad thing because those are caused by the people of color and that must be ignored.
>>214910293>The dems are just opportunists as are most politicians. You cab be among democrats and shout out shit like "Kill yt" and "death to AmericaWhy would they scream "kill yt" unless they believe that whitey is the big ebil oppressor of niggers It's marxist dialectics at play
>>214910632The establishment dems don't believe in it. Look at how many whites are at the top of the party. When Biden and Pelosi etc kneel for BLM they don't give up their jobs do they?
>>214909991lol point proven, look at the rednecks in the replies thinking that equal rights for black people means mass communism
>>214901538Gunn is a retard. He could have done something interesting but his Trump Derangement Syndrome forced him to release Nazi crap. The worst form of Nazi crap too, where the Nazi world is better than our world but it's bad because it just is. Gunn is a hack.
>>214906440People spend large amounts of money not to live near blacks.
>>214910472>leftists arenowadays running around shooting up schoolssure buddy whatever helps you sleep better
>>214901538>it wasn't supposed to be a documentary...
>>214901538> actually utopia> it's badWhy are they like this?
>>214910756IDF bots primarily. Their greatest fear is nuanced political theory and the separation of socialism from 1920's Russian Bolshevik (Jewish) Communism./pol/sters eat it up however, the love confirmation bias.
>>214901552>Gunn is a retard who took literal who Marvel characters and made them the 4/5th highest grossing movies in their whole repertoire then went on to make one of DCs most popular shows ever and basically saved Superman after the SnyderverseYeah man he's getting canned for sure
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>>214910756Motte and Bailey
>>214910901>It's bad because....I still don't get it if there are no niggers around it means slavery never occurred so niggers never suffered at the hands of whiteyIsn't that supposed to be a good thingJust lil negros playing in the mud in congo instead of shooting each other on MLK boulevard
unironically, if the Nazis had won, the world probably wouldn't look that different. It's not like all cultural trends would just freeze in the 40's.Sooner or later feminism and civil rights would happen, because the forces of capitalism insist upon it. Everyone is "equal", which means they can all be equally exploited. See how that works?Ultimately the Germans probably weren't going to kill everyone, stamp out everyone's native cultures, or force them to speak German, because who can be bothered with all of that shit? What are you gonna do, arrest people for selling fish and chips?Culture would go through phases of degeneracy, and phases of prudishness, because it literally always has.
>>214910852There were multiple tranny school shooters in last few years retard
>>214905870>Our system just dropped the ball when it had nothing to prove to anyone after the Cold War ended.This is what I've been saying for a long time. Our elites had to at least pretend to give a shit about their subjects during the Cold War. Don't want the plebs to get dissatisfied and start thinking the Soviets are a good alternative. We coasted on the fumes of that for awhile after the USSR collapsed but they didn't even have to pretend to care anymore after that point.
>>214910756>Equal rights means chimping out after a worthless criminal diedOwning yourself like a retard
>>214911099People have a right to be mad. You all chimped out over Charlie Kirk.
>>214901538The Nazi twist isn't even why this show is bad. I was completely fucking checked out of this show from all the quipshit Whedon wannabe cancer by episode 4. Utterly fucking exhausting.
>>214911069>Sooner or later feminism and civil rights would happen, because the forces of capitalism insist upon it. Everyone is "equal", which means they can all be equally exploited.KekI bet you sniff your own farts all the time
>>214911069If the Japanese won however…
>>214911117>Burning down cities for a piece of shit that pointed a gun at a pregnant woman.
>>214911117>People have a right to be mad. >You all chimped out over Charlie Kirk.KekHow many neighborhoods conservatives burned againHow many food desert areas created by conservatives chimping out Niggers acting like their own enemies will always be funnyKeep owning yourselves subhuman retards
>>214911165That's literally what happened. There was clearly a push to break down boundaries and widen the pool of available workers and consumers, as we pushed further into industrialised society. It was just going to happen, no matter what. Your boss wants to make money, more than he wants to make sure the workplace remains a white boy's club.
>>214911071>multiple tranny school shooters in the last few yearsyou defeated your own rhetoric. It's that easy, huh?
>>214911297Go back this is not the place be a retarded freak among your kind
>>214911404>bro is actually mad that Hitler winning wouldn't have transformed the world into whiteopialol
>>214911069Even something like this is too much effort for writers. They'd rather just say Nazi America would be a nice and clean place but everyone eats babies behind doors so it's actually a bad ideology.
>>214901538So satire and subtlety don’t work because people are stupid. Compelling argument.
>>214911436Go back retard
>>214911539where? Which one do you think I am?
>>214911555a discord shill or a reddit shill
>>214911597no, retard.
>>214911265>>214911608Lmao not so funny more sad to be honestWell i hope you're getting paid at least
>>214911297if this was true China and Japan and Russia would have mass imported Indians decades ago, you can only gaslight for so long before the logic breaks down and you have to admit there is significant political influence causing these things
>>214902569This was my realization too. Everyone was so happy and going about their day meaning well for their neighbors and selves. They had three strong, proud, willing heroes who always made time for family and children. The only bad things happening were violent terrorists and unwelcome strangers in town. The shows going to need to pull some extra weight to get me to see how any of this is bad. Hell. You could argue somewhere out there is a whole Earth of browns, like ours.
>>214911787this breaks down when you realize america was literally, always, a nation of immigrants. china japan and russia were not countries founded on people coming in from overseas. america was. additionally, post ww2 america was a much more attractive place for immigrants, because of capitalism and the democratic system.
>>214911341Not an argument
>>214901538Are you guys ready to see black people being tortured in horrible ways on the next episode? They gonna make that world look like the most cruel thing ever shown on tv.>>214902637Probably savery still exists in that world
>>214910142How is Superman anti Israel when the actor is Jewish? Also pretty sure Lois is Jewish too.Also what's the big deal? Man In the High Castle/NuWolfenstein and countless other IPs already did the "Nazis won and life is good BUT..." shit.
>>214912085I meant slavery
>>214901580>most overtly Christian movie of his entire careerwhat makes you say that?
gay
>>214901563What's the correlation there? You sound mildly retarded.
I kind of figured it was earth X because his father was famous. Typically there are constants and the only time there would be a true flip would be earth 3 and they would be under complete Crime syndicate rule.I think this season is better than the last one too.
>>214912525Yeah, but I feel like making it Earth X will cheapen Chris's decision to go back to his original dimension. It would have been a MUCH harder choice if his Dad and brother just learned Chris killed alt Chris and THAT got him targeted by everyone.I still like this season a lot though.
>>214912054>this breaks down when you realize america was literally, always, a nation of immigrantsMass immigration is currently underway in America, Japan, and a multitude of European nations. Feminism and some form of civil rights exists in all of these places as well. I don't think "capitalism" really has anything to do with it, people have been trading goods in markets and have liked money for thousands of years. China is probably more purely capitalist than any of these places right now and China doesn't give a single fuck about civil rights as America understands it. Hell, plenty of the modern wave of immigrants aren't even working, they're just raping kids and living on benefits, they are explicitly a net negative to the financial interests of the nations they're entering.It's the progressive spiritual ethos first and foremost.
>>214910950Do you ever feel bad or embarrassed about posting such obvious shill content? His Superman movie was shit and Peacemaker is hardly a massive hit either. The only thing I remember from the first season are the opening credits.>>214902637Yeah, they always inadvertently make the mistake of presenting an alternate reality where everything looks much better than what we have and never really presenting a reason why you're supposed to hate it.
>>214912128Schizophrenia probably, anglo-christianism in America is just as crazy as any fucking cult.
>>214911064*sigh* you just don't understand at all goy...
>>214910142>Superman>Bombed"According to Variety, the film is expected to earn a theatrical profit of approximately $125 million."Are chvds this delusional?
>>214906157It wouldn't matter who was in Trump's position. If these people don't get their candidate in power they lose their absolute shit and scream Nazi. They see everything in binary terms, you can never please them and should never try to.
>>214901538I haven't seen superman yet, is luthor that shit in the movie? the actor and the writing don't sell him at all
>>214912813I fully agree, it would have made a better story especially if the only one that was evil was Chris himself and it would have made sense that evil Chris would be a super hero just to get his father's approval. From the look of things it looks like his counterpart was going insane because of the world around him which is why he had heavy substance abuse problems. It would have been better if he was just a pure asshole but then they would have to explain how he's not on earth 3 (which they could just ignore it because 99% of the audience wouldn't know or care.)
>>214912857Nta but trading goods and commerce isn't capitalism. Capitalism was developed by the industrialists that took over during the 1890s/1900s and it's about extreme exploitation of workers for the cheapest amount of wages, no rights, nothing owed to them by the company, "infinite growth" from limited resources, acquisitions and monopolies.
>>214912914>Lives in a shithole third world country>NOOO I WANNA BE LIKE RANDOM EUROPEAN COUNTRY THE SIZE OF MY LIVING ROOM
>>214912985Capitalism is one of those words that doesn't mean a whole lot, it's just sort of invoked as a kind of Lovecraftian boogeyman by leftists. The way you say it obviously makes it sound significantly worse than feudalism and yet almost all leftists would be horrified at the prospect of returning to feudalism, so I don't think they're thinking of this definition.
>>214912813Peacemaker is completely traumatized and his childhood was all kinds of fucked up, not to mention that his dream as a superhero is basically done in his native universe. Killing Rick Flagg and all that violent shit he did was due to his fucked up childhood. Now his father loves him AND his brother is still alive and whites are not being held in cages or anything. He has nothing to lose staying there. If anything, having economos tell his alt dad that he is not the real chris AND that he killed Earth-X chris is what leaves Chris no other choice but to return, unless they're all fucked up and don't mind him dying.
>>214913214I have a feeling since his dad is the same, he's highly disappointed in his own Chris and will probably want him to stay because he doesn't have the same damage like his X counterpart with drug abuse among other things. I'm pretty sure if he didn't kill his brother that would have been the dynamic on the main universe. Also in Earth X society there would have been no way for Chris to get involved in any of the behavior his dad disliked because it would have been death sentience on his public image and even his life.
>>214902509we already won...it's happening. gunnfags days are numbered
What if people actually just think it's a good thing to have clean streets and quaint, peaceful neighbourhoods, and to be able to ride the bus without having the vibes ruined by a potentially violent schizo junkie piece of shit?Every time you see some image of a idelistically nice town or suburb in American media the message is >you don't want this>no one ever had this>this isn't real>this was real but it was racist and sexist and fascist and if you want it then YOU'RE racist sexist and fascistConstantly conditioning the audience into thinking that the only possible way they could have a nice quaint life would be living in a fascist dictatorship and then wondering why suddenly fascism doesn't seem so bad.Lefty writers and directors play with and subvert aesthetics without recognising that aesthetics have a profound power of their own that may be stronger than their intended message.
>>214905870>people might have understood that it kinda sucked to live under that regime.But it objectively didn't.
>>214912054American was founded on British colonialism or immigration? which one is it reddit?
>>214912178>What's the correlation there? You sound mildly retarded.Barnes and Azula are too relatable, andfrankly just too cool. you get a lot of people in the Barnes and Azula did nothing wrong/I can fixed them camp.
>>214901538People are so wishy washy these days, our best role models for 'good people' are still the sort who will apologize and backpeddle on their convictions when they believe they have hurt the feelings of others.Meanwhile bad people who are shown to be utterly dedicated to their evil ways and uncompromising in their convictions end up being weirdly admirable because of it.
>>214901580This.Also Barbie is antiwoke.
>>214901538you can't satirize rightwingers because they're too stupid to understand satireyou could have some chud character explicitly say "I enjoy murdering children and drinking their blood as long as they look different" followed by a still frame of plain text saying "You are being satirized, this is not good and you should feel bad for agreeing with this" and they'd screech about how ZASED he was
>>214909991they talk about how bankers are spreading communism and have the gall to say they understand anyone else's beliefs lmao
>>214915182What are you even talking about?
>>214913077I miss feudalism. So comfy
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>>214902637Gunn is more self aware than ppl think. On his podcast he talks about how everyone in the show morally questionable, the sons of liberty think theyre righteous but theyre blowing up dmv workers. PMs isnt really a hero bc of his criminal history etc.On the other hand he gives no moral ambiguity to auggie and probably wont to earth x.
>>214901538the problem is burgeroid understanding of nazismtheir idea is "Hitler = kkk = racism against blacks and jews EXCLUSIVELY" even though they also killed mentally ill & chronically diseased people (I persumed, from his death scene in season 1 that peacemaker's brother was epileptic so he would be on the chopping block) and they mostly kiled slavs (which don't have a protection group in usa like jews or blacks)
>>214911175They would continue raping everyone they conquered. Only little better than the russians
>>214915386Cute!
>>214915636Hitler was cleaning house because from his perspective shit got out of hand.Presumably after the war was won and things settled down pan-european society, lead by germans, would still go through their version of counter-culture since changing of generations brings about a rebellious nature inherently.Even more so if you take into account the entire USA being in their pocket.So to presume that some nazi rhetoric and mindset and clamping down on society would survive 50-70 years after the fact and intact is ludicrous.There would be a liberalization of society, just on a different path and maybe less extreme but it would still happen and younger generations would likely be "appalled" by what the previous ones did in order to win.
Now that the dust has settled, was it necessary to make Peacemaker do the swatiska dance?
>>214915386my maternal great grandparents lived sorta like that and they died in their late 80s and mid 90s
>>214915707I doubt that that "liberalization" would include modern irl politically correct american language
>>214915799addendumAlso it wouldn't be "pan-european" since their plan was to genocide bigger part of Europe
>>214915707> 2 more weeks, then China will liberalize
>>214901538how does one live in that existence? looks nice
tf is this thread about?
TOTALLEFTISTINCARCERATIONSOON
Just saying liberalism and it's trannie sister leftism imported rapeyougees to Europe, not le nazis
>>214915722how do you think swastikas work?
>>214912869>never really presenting a reason why you're supposed to hate it.>Wow, everything is nice here!>B-But they're nazis, Peacemaker! NAZIS!>Yeah, and?
>>214901538>we HAVE to make the movie bad or else the people we don't like will like it
>>214914605WTF is "azula"?Barnes = Colonel Miles Quaritch
>>214916716I don't know, tradition maybe?
>>214910836libtards especially. curious how that works!
>>214912923It's all indians, all the snyderfags are indians, imagine them that way when you read their comments and it will suddenly make sense.
>>214901538i wish that happened IRL
>>214901538If you have to go out of your way to portray it as comically evil, it's probably not bad.
>>214910875It's missing the hustle and bustle, the vibrancy and diversity of the new world
>>214916818like pc fans. pc fans are swastika
>>214901538>you're not allowed to have your own opinion
>>214920708So is every other 90% homogenous country on Earth like China, Congo, Korea, etc. Yet faggots never seem to make movies portraying the positive virtues of>the vibrancy and diversity of the new worldin those countries. Just conveniently, coincidentally, and ONLY in the White countries that need diversity. Peculiar.
>>214915707interestingly, the hippie subculture shares some roots with Nazism. That's a real thing. Look it up.
>>214911787America had black people since the 1700's. The events of WW2 have literally fuck all to do with anything.
>>214906276>Germany declared war on America>Germany is now America's enemy Hope this helps
>>214921353Conflating 2% of the population being black with an absolute dystopian mongrel muttification of society as a whole.
>>2149025092 more weeks to flatten the curve
>>214921404It was going to happen eventually, because America (or the people running America) love money considerably more than they love building a utopia for white nationalists.To these people the argument is always "why should I not let people in?" not "why should I let people in?". America is supposed to be free, right?Also, you look really cringe falling back on TRS counter-signal memes from twelve years ago.Engaging with an argument is not an infohazard that lets the commies win. Half the reason the world is in such a state is because people like you are such lazy thinkers.
>>214910021They aren't.
>>214916716
>>214901538That's a pretty roundabout way of saying "muh media literacy"
>>214921475Shitskins are an economic black hole. They produce nothing.
