It wouldn't have flopped if they added the forest orgy scene from book 2
>>214907218This film / the book series it's based upon starts making a lot more sense when you realize the author was 15 when he published it.
The Inheritance Cycle is a good series for teenage boys and absolutely blows modern fantasy slop out of the water.
>when your parents are wealthy enough to pay for self-publishing and distributing your teenage version of 1980s media
I have a DVD of this somewhere and I don't remember a single scene from it
>>214907218What is it about young adult fantasy stories that makes the film adaptations so shit?Eragon, Sword of Truth, Percy JacksonAre they just incompetent or are the stories themselves the problem?
>>214907218sienna guillory
>>214907313>>214907218The first book is literally a scene for scene remake of the first Star wars movie. Absolutely fucking embarrassing
>>214907521Fuck you, legend of the seeker was good. If nothing else, for the catsuit assassins with pain dildos
>>214907521Nigger sort of Truth is absolutely not for young adults. That series is filled with graphic sex scenes rape scenes etc.Depressing how bad the show was considering I like the books
>>214907320This kills /lit/.
>>214907732They're a dogshit downgrade from the books. Mord sith are literal 11/10 rape and torture demons, but not assassins, bodyguards
>>214907218forest orgy?>proceeds to want to know more
>>214907313>blows modern fantasy slop out of the water.That's really not a high bar.
>>214907893They cut a lot of that from the books. Richard gets tortured for like half a book and then traumatized by it for a whole other book after he gets away.They condensed it down to an episode or two.
>>214907732Zed was great. The rest was pretty bad.
>>214907715Eragon has has hot elf girl though so its better than Star Wars by default
>>214907993Yeah, they show really fucked up hard. I knew it was doomed when instead of being Richards best friend, zedd is a laughing stock that Richard is creeped out by
>>214907521>That scene where Richard gets NTRd by himself and the chapter goes into great detail about his waifu sucking her menstrual blood off his dickYeah I get why this one adapted poorly
>>214908089Not really. It's just ANH with some ASOIAF influence
I know it's pointless to say now but I will never forgive amazon for butchering wheel of time
I liked the brother’s story. I vaguely recall his girlfriend got kidnapped by bug people henchmen of the emperor and the whole town got condemned because of his whiney scaly step bro so he led an exodus to rescue his girl and lead the town to a different country. Guy was smashing soldier skulls with hammers, hijacking galleys, and going toe to toe with mages. And when he finally got to a new country he immediately offered his services to the king there and caved a powerful enemy mages skull in the first battle he fought for that king. If the writer had jettisoned the dumb dragonrider/jedi/chosen one main plot and just focused on this he’d be regarded as beloved a beloved successor to Robert E Howard
>>214907218I like the Avril song.
>>214908027Kahlan?
>>214907923While traveling to the elf capital they set up camp by an elf village. They got the date wrong so it happens to be during an Elven "renewal" festival where they sing magic hyms that increases the labido of every living creature.the human and dwarf in the party has to be muffled (through magic) by their elf companios so they dont go insane with lust. Menwhile the dragon and the main Elf girl have to endure just got of tank it to resist with exteme difficulty. So they spend the rest of the night watching all the animals in forest fuck
>>214908389Yeah rorans story was unironically much better than eragons
>>214908027They did him very dirty imo
>>214908640Katrina is kind of mid tbqh
>>214908678She's a farm wife, not a supermodel
>>214907218*Ardwen - Arwen*Isenstar - Isengard*Mithrim - Mithrim or mithril*Angrenost - Angrenost*Morgothal - Morgoth*Elessari - Elessar*Furnost - Fornost*Hadarac - Harad*Melian - Melian*Vanilor - Valinor*Eridor - Eriador*Imiladris - Imladris*Undin - Fundin/Udun*Gil'ead - Gil'Galad*Ceranthor - Caranthir*Isidar - Isildir*Oromis - Orome*Eragon - AragornOh and before anyone says it Christopher Tortellini was not 15 when he wrote the story he was 15 when he "imagined" it. He actually wrote it when he was 18 and 19.
>>214908898Chris really did learn from thr best. No wonder it was such a good series unrioncily.
>>214907715probably why it's the only good book in the series
>>214909101Eldest had some pretty good moments
>>214909036>Critics Consensus: Written by a teenager (and it shows), Eragon presents nothing new to the "hero's journey" story archetype. In movie terms, this movie looks and sounds like Lord of the Rings and plays out like a bad Star Wars rip-off. The movie spins the tale of a peasant boy who is suddenly entrusted with a dragon and must, with the help of a mentor, train, grow strong, and defeat an evil emperor. The way the critics picture it, the makers of Eragon should soon be expecting an annoyed phone call from George Lucas.
>>214907255Holy shit…. It does!
>>214908640It's a low bar and incredibly basic. There's nothing in the series that's actually well-done, it just ranges from laughably bad to mediocre at best. The magic system's retarded, the protagonist's unintentionally sociopathic, the world feels like a huge empty void instead of a big, lived-in fantasy world, there's, like, four characters in the entire story that actually matter etc.
>>214907255>>214909397That's a fucking lie. As I said Christopher Tortellini was not 15 when he wrote the story he was 15 when he "imagined" it. He actually wrote it when he was 18 and 19.
>>214909537Calm down, chris
I liked when he travelled to the Dwarf city and the shit that went on there. I still wonder what lays eastward past the Elven area.
I liked the three books I read, there are still some scenes that I remember strongly to this day. I haven't really been tempted to read the last one though.
Hey /tv/ read this plot synopsis: does it describe Eragon or Star Wars?At the start of the story a princess leading a rebellion against an evil empire is being pursued by the evil emperor's right hand man. She's in possesion of an object of great importance which was stolen from the empire. Before she is captured she attempts to secret the item away to a hermit who once belonged to an ancient order of warriors with mystical powers. However the item inadvertently comes into the possession of a boy of foggy origins living with his uncle on a remote farm. The evil emperor's minions track the item to the farm and destroy it, killing the boy's relatives. But the boy escapes with the old hermit who gives him a sword he claims belonged to the boy's father. As they travel together the hermit trains the boy in the ways of the ancient order of warriors. Then the hermit dies protecting the boy, the boy rescues the princess from the start of the story with the help of a dashing rogue, and the boy, rogue, and princess journey together to the rebellion's secret headquarters which has come under attack by the evil empire. At the story's climax the boy saves the day with the timely help of his friends. Afterwards he has a vision of a powerful master of the ancient order of warriors who can finish his training. He seeks the master out and trains with him, growing very powerful. But before his training is finished the boy has premonitions that his friends are in danger. He decides he must go to help them despite his master warning him not to. The boy promises that he will return and leaves. He finds his friends just in time as they are threatened by the evil emperor's right hand man. In the ensuing fight the evil emperor's right hand man reveals that he and the boy are related. The boy is shocked and ultimately defeated, but not killed.
>>214909950I already posted about this upthread, moron
>>214907521Shit books for mentally damaged adults tend to make shitty movies. There is a big difference between actual adult fantasy & shitty young adult slop
>>214910011I did a much better job of it jackass.
>>214907715Hey bro. Where does starwars have riding a dragon with a super hot elf chick into a gigantic stone fortress built into the earth where you get to sleep in a big cozy stone enclave garage with your badass dragon?
>>214909950ummm, Eragon is completely different. It has dragons.
>>214909950this critique is always funny because the basic skeleton existed before star wars and has been done dozens of times after. Its a young adult novel for teens boys. Its not that deep.
>>214910065Nah you fucked it up>>214910088Lmao paolini defense force is upset!
>>214910111Wrong, stupid nigger.
>>214910111Correct, genius Aryan.
>>214910127Its just a lazy insult. Im sure you can spin tons of stories that fit into the beats of others. BRUH AVATAR IS JUST DANCES WIRH WOLVES. No it isn't nigger. Theres spaceships and aliens. Just like eragon is fantasy dragons swords and sorcery.
>>214908598I read all of those books and my brain doesn’t remember a single thing besides how arduous, difficult and tedious learning simple magic was and that Brom guy.
>>214910111Find me 1 (one) other story we can fit into that exact framework besides Star Wars and Eragon.
>>214910256This is what you choose to worry about instead of watching kinos. GRIM
Christopher Tortellini, by his own estimation, writes with a lyrical beauty on par with the Nobel prize winning author Seamus Heaney and Tolkien "at his best" (because regular Tolkien isn't good enough naturally). See for yourself:>The branch Roran had added to the fire burst asunder with a muted pop as the coals underneath heated the gnarled length of wood to the point where a small cache of water or sap that had somehow evaded the rays of the sun for untold decades exploded into steam.Have you ever seen such suffocatingly thick purple prose in your entire life?
It's honestly an okay series, and would have made a fantastic adventure movie if;>The director read the fucking book. Iirc, he prided himself on not reading the book in interviews afterwards>they didn't rely on CGI, there was a breakthrough at the time it was made, and it was hamfisted into everything, they skimped and cut corners, entire sets were greenscreened>They made it two movies. A lot happens in the first book, to the point where, in order to even understand what the fuck the rebels are rebelling against, it spends quite a few chapters touching on the corruption if the Empire in various cities, you need setup for people to care.>It released on the same week as Night at the Museum, a blockbuster hit which for an already shit movie like Eragon, was like shooting yourself in the foot with an FN FAL.
I still don't understand why this book series makes /lit/ seethe more than other the thousands of other derivative fantasy books series.
>>214907313I really enjoyed the second book desu. It had some great scenes.
>>214910256>chosen one>lost order>evil empire>seceret heritage >mythical weaponetcetcetc
>>214910379Yeah and if they didn't give the dragon feathers
>>214910395everyone millenial knew someone that loved it (they shouldn't have!)
>>214909950A lot of this is just Hero's Journey 101.There's always a mad hermit in the woods who trains the young boy so he stands a chance against the villains, and then dies so the boy can fulfill his destiny without handholding.
>>214910395It was promoted pretty hard in scholastic book faires, so I would wager most anons read it growing up. It's easy to make fun of, remember, this was around the time of neopets and warrior cats, manga was fringe as fuck and difficult to find. Kids found 4chan and anime, and suddenly saw it as the superior medium, and all else is trash. The same people who read retardation like Chainsaw Man and Demon Slayer, would have likely read Eragon if they were born 15 years earlier.
>>214910395Mostly because it was written by a child.So everyone has to chime in with their >umm actuallyto justify never making anything of value in their lives.
>>214910395Because it's fanfiction and it belongs on fanfiction.net but Tortellini's wealthy and doting parents self-published it and lied to everyone about how old their son was when he wrote it. Writing shitty books at 19 isn't as impressive as doing it at 15 apparently. By hyping the book as the work of a "prodigy" they got it enough attention to be picked up by a real publisher and it became a smash hit with stupid children who couldn't recognize how truly awful and derivative it was.Real authors would kill for a fraction of the exposure Tortellini got. There is no justice.
>>214910669>a lot of this>picks just a small part of itIt follows the plot outline of the first two Star Wars movies to a T.
>>214910758>Mostly because it was written by a nineteen-year-old (legal adult).FTFY.It was "imagined" by a child years before he actually wrote it.
>>214910800I could go through some of the other parts like the dead parents being necessary to get the boy out of his home and seek revenge. That's why Disney characters usually don't have families.Or how it's disingenous to say "the right hand man was a relative" when one was a father and another was a secret half brother or something. Also the "right hand man" was more like a slave forced to obey the big bad. And he was friends with the protagonist at first. Was there a part where Luke was friends with Darth Vader?
Yes, most western stories are based on the Hero's journey/hero cycle. We learned this in high school. Are we going to call out A New Hope for copying The Odyssey?
>>214910765>couldn't recognize how truly awful and derivative it was.that's literally all of fantasy fiction
>>214910892>I could go through some of the other parts like the dead parentsNot dead parents. Dead aunt and uncle who are farmers.>Or how it's disingenous to say "the right hand man was a relative" How you dumb faggot? They're both immediate relatives.
>>214910904yes Homer was a hack with jew patrons behind him
>>214910926Read more books.
>>214908598There's also a bit during the scene where Eragon's dragon accidentally outs the fact that Eragon gets major boners for the she-elf. No, I am not joking.
>>214910765This would be based today since publishers won't even read your work unless you have an asian or black sounding name.
>>214910904>Are we going to call out A New Hope for copying The Odyssey?t. has never read the OdysseyJust look up the synopsis on sparknotes at least you subliterate moron.
>>214911291Was Odysseus a boy of foggy origins living with his uncle on a remote farm? Did Odysseys come into possession of an object of great power sought by an evil emperor? Did the evil emperor's minions track the item to the farm and destroy it, killing Odysseus' relatives? Did Odysseus escape with an old hermit who gave him a sword he claimed belonged to Odysseus' father? As they traveled together did the hermit train Odysseus in the ways of the ancient order of warriors? Did the hermit die protecting Odysseus, who rescued a princess with the help of a dashing rogue, and journey with them to the secret headquarters of a rebellion against the evil emperor which had come under attack by his forces? At the story's climax did Odysseys save the day with the timely help of his friends? Afterwards did Odysseys have a vision of a powerful master of the ancient order of warriors who could finish his training? Did Odysseus seek the master out and train with him, growing very powerful? Did Odysseys have premonitions that his friends were in danger before his training was finished? Did Odysseus decide he must go to help them despite his master warning him not to? Did Odysseys promise that he will return and leave? Did Odysseys find his friends just in time as they are threatened by the evil emperor's right hand man? In the ensuing fight did the evil emperor's right hand man reveal that he and Odysseus are related? Was Odysseus shocked and ultimately defeated, but not killed?If so I guess Lucas DID copy The Odyssey and all "hero's journey" stories are exactly the same. I take back everything bad I said about Tortellini!
>>214907218>the emo guy insinuates eragon's dragon died for a lame fakeoutwhat a dick, I never understood the point of that scenealso every time I see this I remember that anon who went to see this movie in the theaters and pronounced it "e-raggin" and the ticket guy lost his shit laughing about it.
>>214911502>pronounced it "e-raggin"It resembles dragon. The only other way to pronounce it is Aragon, which would be derivative.
>>214909509I don’t know anon, I must have read Eragon almost 20 years ago and those Roran bits have stuck with me enough that I broadly remember his storyline and a lot of little details despite not particularly caring for that series in general. Writer must have done something right.
i enjoyed these books as a teenager, but they did feel pretty amateurish. sort of took it as a given that if something was published, it was at least decent - didn't know it was his dad until later.good thread though.
>>214911625Even as a teenager, Eragon cucking himself at the end was stupid.
I think this was the first film I was able to remember saying the book was better. The lame way the Nazgul ripoffs looked and how the village being razed had weirdly dark elements turned PG-13(no baby dead on spike that makes Eragon vomit) tickled my youthful autism. Also I remember or have maybe misremembered book 2 having weird sexual tension between him and the dragon as she gets peeved he wants to not bang her and there's no other dragons for her to bang
>>214911574>The only other way to pronounce it is Aragon, which would be derivativeOh gee would it? Eragon being derivative? I mean it's not like he stole any other names right? Oh wait...*Ardwen - Arwen*Isenstar - Isengard*Mithrim - Mithrim or mithril*Angrenost - Angrenost*Morgothal - Morgoth*Elessari - Elessar*Furnost - Fornost*Hadarac - Harad*Melian - Melian*Vanilor - Valinor*Eridor - Eriador*Imiladris - Imladris*Undin - Fundin/Udun*Gil'ead - Gil'Galad*Ceranthor - Caranthir*Isidar - Isildir*Oromis - Orome*Eragon - Aragorn
>>214911652It's his dragon and his new master's dragon. Saphira tries to force herself on the older, male dragon.
>>214911668this Pasta has already been served earlier in the thread
>>214911584isn't there a scene in the 2nd book where roran stands on top of a pile of bodies with a hammer and holds back the enemy alone for some ridiculous amount of time like 3 hours or some shit? I remember thinking that was badass as a 15-year-old
The only issue i had with the books is that the dragon was a genius from the get go. It didn't go through an adolescent phase
>>214911712And apparently the point didn't get through if anyone's here saying "oh no 'Eragon' couldn't POSSIBLY be taken from 'Aragorn' that would be too derivative!" Nothing's derivative in this story copied from Star Wars by way of The Lord of the Rings!
>>214911693Yeah something like that. All I remember was thinking it was getting weird(er, I got the horse girl kind of vibes from the first book too) with how catty they were acting. I was expecting at some point them to reveal dragons can morph into humans and bear children with the way it was going. Thankfully I grew out of the series in-between book 2 and 3, I almost want to see if it goes full horndog as Pastatoni got older or if he controlled his hormones by using his money to get laid
>>214911833From what I remember, Eragon at one point gets dick mogged by the elf dragonrider. What a weird fucking detail.
>>214911773Eragon is taken from Dragon
>>214911883I would have assumed Elves have relatively tiny ones desu
>>214911723You thought it was badass for a teenage farm boy who had never been trained how to fight to mow down his enemies by the hundreds, professional adult solider all? You spent a lot more time playing video games than reading didn't you?Tell me, did you like the furries that were in book 2 as well? Let's not forget that Tortellini is a furfag and one of his elves magically transformed himself into a blue-furred wolf/elf hybrid who emitted a musk that made women horny which is why they tried to avoid him and no I am not making any of that up.
>>214911944fucking kek did the author fuck your girlfriend or something
>>214911883Maybe it was his way of compensating for Eragon being a blatant self insert and everyone saying it was mary sue wish fulfilment. Although I'd probably write a smaller flaw for my self insert than a tiny penis
>>214911885Uh-huh right and what are Ardwen, Isenstar, Mithrim, Angrenost, Morgothal, Elessari, Furnost, Hadarac, Melian, Vanilor, Eridor, Imiladris, Undin, Gil'ead, Ceranthor, Isidar, and Oromis taken from?
>>214907218it's just a rip-off of star wars anyway
>>214911944>You thought it was badass for a teenage farm boy who had never been trained how to fight to mow down his enemies by the hundreds, professional adult solider all? I mean yeah its a teenage boy power fantasy novel. Were you expecting Ulysses?>>214911970kek got em'
>>214912021>I mean yeah its a teenage boy power fantasy novel.I guess I was reading much better material when I was a teenager.
>>214907255the film makes no fucking sense because the first movie feels like a 15 year old describing a fantasy movieso they made a bunch of changes, of course
>>214911291Nice reddit spacing. Is that your sperg out below too? Seek help
>>214912016Well according to the fanboys ITT Star Wars is a ripoff of The Odyssey anyways, although I'm still not sure how. The anon who said that won't expand upon it. I guess he's never actually read The Odyssey (go figure).
>>214912048I bet everyone thought you were awesome in middle schoolhttps://youtu.be/jlnn5LqPWgA?si=Fkwglnabb7NDO_Xj
Eragon hate from the 00s was kino and I feel nostalgic about itIt generated seethe in a scale that looking back just wasn't justified
>>214912012the fact that english only has so many syllables that can be jammed together without sounding like shit
>>214912161The Eragon hate generated seethe? Or Eragon being successful generated seethe?
>>214912009>Mary Sue>constantly getting fucked up and bailed out through the seriespick one. Yeah its a mid series at best but this constant jerking off a hate boner to it is weird.
>>214912192The later though I should have worded it better
>>214912086We have always formatted our posts this way newfag.
>>214912192>Eragon being successfulthe movie bombed and nobody even remembers the books they had no lasting legacy
>>214907313The first book is enjoyable as a 10 year old, then it quickly goes to shit, with one of the worst endings ive ever read.
for me it's the fedora atheist elves
>>214912109is this the same guy ashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5j9etUfZvU?
>>214908089Yeah and the hero never gets with the hot elf and the series ends with him watching his dragon get fucked mid air before abandoning the kingdom and hiding in the woods
>>214912227It wasn't lasting but it did become a major best seller for a brief while
>>214912193>constantly getting fucked up and bailed out through the seriesOnly as many times as Luke Skywalker was. Unlike Luke though who's initially treated like a dumb kid everyone falls over to kiss Eragon's ass because of how great he was. The sole exception being one bad elf who gets handily defeated by Eragon after he's powered up via deus ex machina and then the elf is crippled forever and apologizes to Aragorn for not recognizing his greatness.Yup no way a Mary Sue gets treated like that!
>>214912273Worse. He goes to hide on the fantasy equivalent of the Great Plains.
What other trash did you read as a teenager, /tv/?
>>214912319I regret reading the Artemis Fowl books. Ranger's Apprentice was kino, though. Up until the girl dies off page.
>>214910441Cool, but you didnt post a story that follows the exact framework of star wars and eragon
>>214912319
>>214912319The Wrinkle in time books. I don't know why but I read them all.
>>214912375Someone did say The Odyssey. Don't you remember The Odyssey being the exact same as Star Wars and Eragon?
>>214912319Dragonlance
>>214912416never read these, /tg/ seems to dislike them.but it is bullshit that they were 'canon' to the Dungeons & Dragons modules. you were playing in this shared universe with the novels.O.G. Forgotten Realms, meanwhile, SPECIFICALLY said there wouldn't be some overall continuity, do what you like. then the Drizzt novels started.
even the first book does diverge from star wars once obi-brom dies
>>214912319the only thing I remember reading as a kid that wasn't required reading were the Redwall booksunfortunately by the time I became a teen I was already a weeb obsessed with manga and shit, and didn't appreciate western fantasy until my mid 20's
>>214912259Right because even after establishing the existence of spirits in his story Tortellini had to remind us all that believing in the gods is stupid through his mouthpiece furfag vegan Elves.
>>214912486>That scene where Brom and Eragon get hammered at a bar.
>>214912319Got into Rangers Apprentice because girl I wanted to fuck back in high school was really into it, liked it back then but tried to read them recently and it feels like one of those adventure novels video games with text only
>>214912722>>214912334(me)Did you also get angry when the love interest was killed off?
>>214912606he does shit on the elves quite a bit
>>214912833No he doesn't because he's a furfag vegan fedora atheist IRL. So his perfect Elves are the exact same way.
>>214908898Also his parents owned the publishing company.
>>214912916by the third book he's given up on the vegan kick realizing it retarded and unworkable. Eragon can feel the consciousness of every creature including ants and still goes back to eating meat
>>214912319a shit ton of naruto crack ship fanficsthey were great
>>214907715damn, guess I'm not the only one who thought that.
>>214913380see>>214909192
>>214913354you mean fanfiction.com. Didn't that website shutdown 20 years ago
>>214913432kek. I'd let my kids read it, though, which is better than I could say for a lot of that genre.
>>214913474Still going as of today, but I think it's only real weirdos and genuine autists like that Epic of Gilgamesh length Mario thing and that Loud House length Odyssey stuff, all the pervs and sickos moved to Ao3
>>214908089>>214912273Paolini was a virgin when he wrote these books and its hillarious how he never figured out how to unfriendzone eragon lel
>>214913598I'm 23, and I still don't know how to do it IRL.
>>214913536Please don't. Buy your kids any other books but those.
>>214913634Be a succesful and ripped chad and women will try to rape you
>>214913768>5'9"I never had a chance.
>>214907313Most of it is either imitation or homage to some other stuff, so yeah I agree it's a pretty good read if you're new to fantasy. The latest book was disappointing though, I thought his writing would have changed with time.I remember really liking the magic system when I was 13.
>>214913853There's a new book? QRD?
>>214907320Did they pull off something with connections or just self-publish? Anyone can self-publish their own copies with only a little bit of cash, my uncle did it for his book on WWI correspondence, he spends most of his time in retirement touring philately conventions with his book and hitting on old women there.
>>214913853>Most of it is either imitation or homageIt's plagiarism faggot. He steals things wholesale. The plot is Star Wars. The place names and overall setting are from LotR. The magic is from A Wizard of Earthsea. Then there's bits of other stuff like the weird little cursed girl being Alia from Dune. And blatantly copying is fine if you're making a fanfiction of established settings but Tortellini had to try to pass his work off as something original when there is NOTHING original about any of it.
>>214913900>Anyone can self-publish their own copies with only a little bit of cashThanks to Amazon yes. It used to be harder but the Tortellinis are rich so they doted on their autistic spawn by using their money to self-publish his Star Wars/LotR fanfiction instead of leaving it on fanfiction.net where it rightly belongs. Then they went on a book tour and lied about how Christopher was younger than he was when he actually wrote the book. Then the media hyped it as the work as a child prodigy (because ̶f̶i̶f̶t̶e̶e̶n̶ nineteen-year-olds can't write shitty books apparently) and a big publisher scooped it up and pushed it everywhere.
>>214913876It's a Murtagh book that picks up a few years after the ending. Honestly it's a decent book in line with the others, I just had high expectations from Paolini since it's been so many years since the last book. But then again I haven't read the two books he wrote in between (an Eragon-verse book set a year after the ending and an SF book). I won't give a summary of the plot since you can just go wiki it if you like.>>214913924That's nice, anon. If you need to rant about plagiarism in other popular childrens' books feel free. Idc either way but it probably feels good to get off your chest.
>>214913924Where did he steal the dragon bonding stuff from?
>>214914053Dragonriders of Pern or something? IDK I hadn't read that series but someone else told me it's copied from there. Tortellini copied EVERYTHING. Even the shit about dragons having crystal hearts made of magic was from some old line of toys.
>>214914047>I just had high expectations from Paolini since it's been so many years since the last booklollmao
>>214914025so basically Paolini got lucky? There are tons of young authors self-publishing even back then, as a teen I would volunteer at my local cons and see them all lined up on their indie stands. The lying about his age stuff is ugly but nothing publishing companies don't do themselves. What would be interesting would be to see what the sales numbers were like before they got picked up, most self-published authors I knew around 2010 were lucky if they'd sold like 100 copies.
>>214914137>so basically Paolini got lucky?No he was rich. He'd have gotten nowhere if his parents weren't able to publish the book themselves and take their kid on a cross country book tour to hype it up.>The lying about his age stuff is ugly but nothing publishing companies don't do themselves.What other books written by adults have publishers said were written by children?
>>214914133What's so surprising about that? The guy had time to improve. It's like when you run into a friend from high school and are eager to see what he turned out like but instead are disappointed to find they're exactly in the same situation as when you last saw them. Reading or watching something from a creator you enjoyed but haven't kept up with is always fun imo.
how the flying fuck do you guys remember books this well?think i need to get checked for dementia or something.
>>214914185>The guy had time to improve.He was between 18 and 19 when he wrote the first book. The next two were written in 20's and 30's or just about. He didn't improve any in that time, why would he be any better in his 40's?>>214914230Hatred burned it into my brain. The rest of the anons ITT are fanboys so they just liked it well enough to remember I guess.
>>214914181>publish the book themselvesBut we've already established that anyone with a little money saved up can self-publish and you've given me no reason to believe they did so differently from anyone else. Did the cross-country tour happen after some degree of initial success or were all the sales derived from the hype it generated? Honestly you seem to be more informed about the situation but you're not giving any info out at all so there's little point in discussing it.>What other books written by adults have publishers said were written by children?I didn't mean the exact same situation, just general shady practices I've seen when I worked IT at a publishing house (low-level dark romance). I don't usually work this industry so I might have just been naive, but in my mind it went: author writes book -| gives book to publisher -| back and forth edit -| publish. Instead, I saw a lot of pseudo ghostwriting happening where an editor would scour the net for potential authors on fanfiction forums and then mold their writing into their collection's style, almost to the point of writing it themselves, before finally stamping the 'author' s name on it and stacking young author instas onto their social media presence. I also saw a few instances of IP theft, young authors would bring their script in, it would get trashed and the basic story structure would get rehashed and distributed to someone in-house. This happens so much that when you go to any young author workshop they will make a point about the necessary precautions to take against IP theft.And I saw all of this in a single year, so I imagine it's much worse in reality.
>>214914422>He didn't improve any in that time, why would he be any better in his 40's?Didn't you improve in ten years? Don't most people? It's a reasonable expectation and it costs me nothing but the price of a book to find out the answer. I think you're fixating on the statement because of how much you hate the books, which I can sympathize with somewhat.
>>214907736The show was based, and lol no, I don't read
>>214914478>Don't most people? Of course. My point is that Tortellini is a fucking idiot which is why the books were so bad to begin with. But if he sucked when he was almost 20 and when he was almost 30 I don't see how you could expect him to be one iota better when he's in his 40's.
>>214907218Did Eragon and Arya actually participate in the orgy? It's not made clear
>>214914432His parents didn't have a little money they had a lot of money. And the success came after the book tour and the word of mouth buzz it generated about the child prodigy boy genius young Tolkien. Because they lied to everyone about Chris being 15 when he wrote it.
Unpopular opinion but the "immature" first book is much better than the more mature 3rd and 4th ones
>>214914551It is made clear in the book. They did not.
>>214914589Well he was literally just rewriting Star Wars with dragons at that point before trying (and failing) to move out on his own. Since Star Wars is a good story it stands to reason that something plagiarized from it would be good on its face.
>>214914544I'm optimistic that way I guess, its never really paid off but I'm hopeful. This girl I know who was the class slut and dunce spent her 20s mooching off of various boyfriends but when she was approaching 30 something must have happened to her because she got really serious about her life and 5 years later is a lawyer on track to becoming a judge (it works different in my country). People surprise you sometimes, although I only found out about this because she bragged shamelessly about it when I ran into her in our hometown, so I guess she's still a bit of a cunt.>>214914586Hm, I'm going to read up on this a bit. I only remember thinking 'wow he's only a bit older than me' but was too young to keep up with any of the press around Paolini at the time.
>>214907218Is his sword white on the cover for ratings?
>>214914662Isn't SW itself just rehashing other stories? I'm not /lit/erate but I remember a friend who took Creative Writing in college telling me about it once.
>>214910088Unironically I think there is a Tales of the Jedi or Old Republic comic book like that
>>214914679>5 years later is a lawyer on track to becoming a judge (it works different in my country)1L here. I'm guessing somewhere in Europe?
>>214907313correct, but that's more an indictment of modern writing than praise for the inheritance cycle
>>214907218Extremely mid books that rip off star wars don’t make good movies
>>214912319The manga is fucking kino
>>214914709>Isn't SW itself just rehashing other stories?Any hero's journey story follows the same general archetype but Eragon doesn't share tropes with Star Wars it's a take by take retelling of Star Wars. Just read this for fuck's sake >>214909950
>>214914761Yeah Western EU, basically if I've got it right you have to have courtroom experience before you can pass the state selection exam for the magistrate school or maybe it's not mandatory but you've got next to 0 chances of getting in if you don't. I might have it wrong because I was trying to get out of the chat we were having since I've never enjoyed her all that much.
>>214914818nah I didn't read Eragon and am indifferent to Star Wars, I'm just ITT because I'm bored.
>>214914823Becoming a judge in America is always in the later part of a career as a lawyer.
>>214914885Oh, I had no idea, I assumed you went straight to some judge school, I should have watched more Boston Legal instead of NYPD Blue.
>>214914957It's complicated. At the county level, you will either be elected or appointed. Almost always after a serious career as a lawyer. At the state level, same as county. At the federal level, you get nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. Always after a big dick career up until that point.
>>214915046>It's complicated.Yeah I googled it quick in the past 5 minutes and just found out you guys have lay judges in some states, christ that must be a shit show.I also always wondered about sheriffs, like I know they're elected but are they usually already people with experience in law enforcement? Don't they clash over jurisdiction with police or is there no police in towns with sheriffs?One day I will come to the USA and see a real-life sheriff.
>>214915046Yeah technically you don't have to be a lawyer to be made a judge but in practice that's always going to happen. It's like you don't have to be a cardinal to be elected pope or even a bishop. Originally you didn't even have to be a priest. But the way the process evolved there's a certain career path you have to take to get there.
>>214915144Don't over think sheriffs is what I would tell you. They are basically just another kind of police chief, that happen to be elected. Yea, they are 99% of the time older cops. Overlapping jurisdictions is actually pretty common in American law enforcement. City police, county sheriff, state highway patrol/police, and federal law enforcement can all be in the same space. >>214915177Basically.
>>214915144>I know they're elected but are they usually already people with experience in law enforcement?Yes.>Don't they clash over jurisdiction with policeYes. A lot of the drama in cop shows is between different branches of law enforcement staking out their turf because they're always squabbling about that IRL.>or is there no police in towns with sheriffs?Only town with less than a hundred people are not going to have cops, anything bigger usually does. But Sheriffs operate at the county level and police at the municipal level.
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>>214907218I still haven't read the 4th book. I even have it sitting on my shelf.
>>214914637I thought he didn't even remember what happened the past days. How do we know for sure?
>>214916242Throw it away. I literally threw away the copies my siblings had into the garbage where they belong.
>>214907313Dropped the ball hard by not making it a trilogy. Last book felt so forced, like 3 chapters of it was actual story and the rest of the book was just filler to justify a 4th book. The ending sucked ass too.
>>214908640His story was boring trash. Le cool super powerful guy with le hammer with zero moral failings
>>214907218I should read the first book again to see how it holds up. I remember the description of his village being incredibly comfy
>>214916569I read the whole series as an adult the first time a year or so ago. The first book was honestly pretty enjoyable. Book 2 had its moments as well. It dropped off pretty hard after that IMO.
>>214916667holy fuck read more books you faggot
>>214916667the only thing I really remember from my read-through was him riding the dragon and it fucking up his legs and trying to turn a pebble into water and it nearly killing him. I think the magic in it worked in an interesting way where it was something like any person could cast any spell and if they didn't have the mana for it then they were just fucked.
>>214916778>I think the magic in it worked in an interesting wayThe magic was plagiarized word for fucking word from A Wizard of Earthsea.
>>214912319The Wardstone ChronicleAbout a kid becoming a monster killer and shit
>>214916865guess I'll read that then, thanks for the roundabout recommendation
>>214916949A Wizard of Earthsea is fantastic yes.
>>214916743I never said they were good.
>>214917007You said you enjoyed them even though they're trash.
>Read book before movie comes out >It's just Fantasy Star Wars (nothing wrong with that) for kids>The best bit is the super long period of time where he's just raising the dragon from infancy to adulthood and bonding with it so you understand why he'd give a shit about it along with the powers>The movie just fucking skips all over this and has it turn into an adult in a literal flash Gee thanks
>>214917495You can enjoy something that is trash anon. You've never watched a "bad" movie that you enjoyed?
>>214917614>The best bit is the super long period of time where he's just raising the dragon from infancy to adulthoodThat's rushed in the book too faggot, the dragon is big enough to ride after like 1 chapter.
>>214917652Movies are different from books. I don't enjoy trash books.
>>21490731399% of modern fantasy is either col. Sanders(on) or porn for women
>>214907521seeker books are up there with second apocalypse in being family friendly
Nasuada was best girl
>>214908389nah man, the brother was the worst. Such a shit character
>>214917834Why? Because he's aMary Sue like Eragon?
>>214917857yes, he was just the human fighter mary sue instead of the chosen one. I think the fiance and her father are much more interesting characters. The part where they literally stand with her between them and tells her to go with them while she's in tears is kino.
read the first three book as a kid and this is all i remember>egg meteor>grain of sand torture>half book spent training in some cove just to get btfo right after (based)>reoccurring uncomfortable sexual tension between bitchmade protag and his jealous dragon
>>214917749Bitch ass bossgirl who fucked over her benefactor. Orin deserved way better. Then again he should have sided with Galbachad instead of these backstabbing Varden browns
>>214912398But cheese cunt said you're not allowed to read those honey chil'
Kek this and Narnia really thought they were gonna Harry Potter tier
>>214918204>Narniabitch, what
>>214907218How did this derivative slop ever become popular?
>>214918259Christopher Tortellini and his parents lied about how old he was when he wrote the book is how. Nineteen-year-olds writing shitty books isn't impressive. Fifteen-year-olds writing books are CHILD PRODIGY GENIUSES.
Galbatorix did nothing wrong
>>214917674>Movies are different from booksThat wasn't the argument.> I don't enjoy trash books.Just because you don't doesn't mean other people can't enjoy them.
