>/tv/ says this film is pure kino>watch it>woke garbagewhat happened to /tv/?
>>214916812Only woke part is them showing how niggerish the crusaders were while showing Baldwin was a good guy but not doing the reverse for the muslims and Saladin.
>>214916812agreed
>>214916812it's a weird movie.I don't get why they rewrote the main character (Orlando Bloom) to be a frenchie when the real Balian was birthed in Jerusalem. We need Liam Neeson as an old teacher to complete our dumb hero's journey trip. It feels so stupid when Bailan arrives to Jerusalem and tells the crusaders where to fight and how to defend the city, like how the fuck does he know?Sibylla was also a character heavily rewritten for little purpose. The romance between her and Balian lacked passion, they borrowed a lot of plot-elements from Braveheart but failed to understand why the queen love the scottish foe.then we have the autistic Raynald, an ancient version of patton/epstein, going berzerk whenever he feels like itbut there's something magical about the movie. the whole "jerusalem and it's reinformencts has arrived" is terrific. the ambuigity to the answer of what jerusalem is worth is a smart thing - nothing everything. edwrd norton putting on the mask and owning it. the ancient middle east looking like a storytale, plenty of green, trees everywhere, the city looks epic, the tallest buildings must be around 1000 feets or higher, the grand epic width of the battle scenes. somehow this movie feels like the last true epic hollywood made. sure TDKR was made on an epic scale but it never felt epic, the battle in city lacked the epic proportions
>>214917756sure its a cool movie but ultimately its just Jesuit propaganda and makes them look way more noble than they really are only leaning into "ambiguity" to give them plausible deniability when this is pointed out.
>>214917821>propagandaI don't know. Who ever watched Kingdom of Heaven thinking they'd learn the truth about history? If anything, by being blatanly wrong and portraying history in a scewed way is a smart way to enforce the truth on the beholder as they have to check the facts for themselves.Whenever I watch KoH it always makes me interested in both the Baldwin and Saladin characters so I naturally go to wikipedia and read up on them, and that's due to the movie
>>214916820>farther
>>214918036Right but the entire point of these movies, and I will say the same for movies about Jesus for example, is to control how you imagine the events in your mind. And most people dont have your perspective they kinda just assume they got the complete retelling out of the movie but its ok to feel how you do, im just sharing my two cents.
>>214917821>but ultimately its just Jesuit propagandaAs much as Walter Scott's works.Kind of funny how movie tries to put all blame on tampliers, while according to historical accounts they were one of the most tolerant forces after Jerusalem kingdom was established (like protecting muslims who were praying in the city from newly arrived europeans)
>>214918298they didnt just exist during this time and only for this time but I can see how if you look at this time in isolation it makes them look good. And their group doesnt begin and end with the templars the people rebrand and encompass other groups, ultimately converging with the jesuits.
>>214918245>And most people dont have your perspective they kinda just assume they got the complete retelling out of the moviethose people will be subdued no matter what, most humans are birthed to be mastered and the system does very little to foster them as individual thinking beings.. to think on your own has its costs too, you spend energy on it which could be spent on other things.. I think people who critisize movies for their inaccurate depiction of history could spend their energy on better things. I'd concentrate on critizising the current school systems instead of actionfilled entertainment
>>214916812It's fundamentally an anti-Christian movie because Ridley Scott is a disgusting fedora tipper.
i was kinda interested in seeing it after all the noise about how supposedly muh based it is but 10 minutes in i couldn't handle the absolute junk ass cinematography and editing. no wonder this movie is popular with tradcath larping jocks
>>214919247>anti-Christianwhat's wrong with being anti-christian (given you ain't a muslim or a jew)?
>>214919293Because Christianity is true.
I am Salahudin, Sa-la-hu-din
>>214919312And I'm Reynald de Chatillon!thank you, I'll take some fresh water, you're sister had a nice butt!
Is it just me or does anyone else think "smell you later" when a muslim say "Ayy salome like uumm"??
The crusades were perfectly justified btw
>>214919584Christianity is a plague on mankind
>>214916812define woke
>>214916812i don't sanction your buffoonery OP
>>214916812They want a humiliation ritual
>>214919603>giving money to jerusalemThat doesn't even make any sense and is sensationalism. The early church didn't have anything in that city. All the churches were locally managed and run. Add in the jews killed all the Christians during their chimp outs so there wasn't even many there.
>>214919785Ok yid
>>214919802>deflectionYou sure do take a lot of pointers right out of the JIDF handbook for online shilling.
>>214919839>"NOOOOOOOOO the written proof in the book that I shill to everyone else as "the word of God" is too devastating for my lesser evolved brain to reconcile."
>>214919916>strawman and basedjakYeah, really digging deep into the shill handbook here. What do you believe, huh?
>>214916812is that that faggy thing I was sposed to kill in morrowindnever really bothered with the main plot and eventually ditched the game after building my custom house to store all the useless shit I collected.a fitting analogy for life
>>214919937>"NOOOOOOOO stop reminding me that my Christcuckold instruction manual literally tells me to flop on the ground and beg jews for the privilege of licking their jew assholes!!!! I can't reconcile it, all I can do is use /pol/ debate terms in the sticky to support my argument!!!"
>>214916842Nah it is woke slop. The heckin wholesomerino atheist knight gives a whole speech about how Jerusalem doesn't belong to the Christians or the Muslims. He doesn't say it out loud but the obvious subtext is that it belongs to the Jews. Then every Christian just cheers. Very very zogged film.
>>214920027and they say your tribe is high IQ.
