>Rising global temperatures from greenhouse gases.>Melting ice caps & glaciers, especially Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica.>Rising sea levels flooding coastal cities and islands.>More extreme weather: stronger storms, floods, droughts, heatwaves..none of this happened lol
>>214920310Fearmongering propaganda from liberal queers about shit that never happened, and will never happen in our lifetime.
>>214920310>Melting ice caps & glaciers, especially Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica.This happened because now companies are fishing in the Arctic without any issue.
You obviously don’t own beachfront property>>214920343Shillbot
>>214920310Sue al gore and his charity grift
>>214920352https://climatecosmos.com/climate-news/sudden-surge-in-antarctic-ice-leaves-experts-puzzled/
>>214920361>You obviously don’t own beachfront propertyWould a house boat be considered beachfront property?
>>214920361The coast literally hasn't changed, faggot.
>>214920379No, its not seaside property, its sea inside property. Boats don't tend to retain value nearly as well as houses.
>>214920361I live on the beach and nothing changed dumb nigger
>>214920436>>214920390Keep it up sirs. You’ll be the first to go
>>214920390It literally has, literally a bunch of the literal change is due to invasive nutria species eating away at the coast to the point southern states pay bounties for skins and a lot of other literal change is due to states building sea walls around populated areas so the rise doesn't affect properties.
>>214920448holy fuck you're mental, cunt
>>214920448No, uh, tranny, the home insurance market in Florida is collapsing for no reason
>>214920310>Dude let's destroy white working class fossil fuel industries and give all our money to giant green energy corporations (that I conveniently have vested interests in)
>>214920448>literally>literal>literalAlright that has nothing to do with global warming changing coast lines.>>214920446This movie said we'd be under water by now. C'mon when was the last time you actually watched this shit?
>>214920465No, you are literally in literal denial of literal reality.
>>214920497reality that nothing at all happened?
>>214920488No, global warming is what is allowing the pests to have longer lifespans and breed more prolifically at that latitude and the claim wasn't that the coasts were not changing because of global warming, but they weren't changing at all.
>>214920509Yes that is a literal denial that things in reality are happening all the time.
>>214920515That's total fucking bullshit. Nutria are an invasive species that's why they cause so much trouble. Get your bitchy facts straight.
>>214920377lol the fact that my mom told me this shit proves its fucking wrong. Also a lot of the new ice is surface ice that thaws quickly.
>>2149203610% sea level rise in over a century jeet idiot
>>214920310Who has a better track record of predicting Armageddon?Climate change scientists OrJehovahs witnesses
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>>214920566Enjoy the ban
>>214920572why should this matter to me?
>>214920533They are an invasive species that thrives in tropical environments and are now thriving in areas that didn't used to be so close to tropical conditions where they used to die off en masse during winter months instead of being in an arid country that now has a year round wildfire season.
>98% scientific consensusLet’s assume you think it is a hoax perpetrated by the Jews. Where does that leave us? There’s really nothing to discuss. Except>More extreme weather: stronger storms, floods, droughts, heatwavesThis is something you should be able to observe on your own. I will say it’s definitely true. Then what. Is it (((HAARP)))? Or do you deny it’s hotter in the summer and there are more weird cold snaps in the winter than 20 years ago? Stronger hurricanes, more and more severe droughts, crazy tornado outbreaks? If you do then we’re again at an impasse. If your mind’s made up, why make the thread PIG FUCK
>>214920620>In 1938, 20 nutria were released in Louisiana. By 1958 there were 20 million in the state.I hope you can internalize you're a fucking idiot and I see hundreds up here in Washington state.
>>214920638>Or do you deny it’s hotter in the summer and there are more weird cold snaps in the winter than 20 years ago?I do, because neither of these is true.
>>214920663Hundreds instead of millions because there are significantly more mass die offs in washington state, so washington state doesn't need to put bounties on their skins because winter will do most of the work.
>>214920638>>98% scientific consensusI mean it simply never happened, you retarded vaxxie cunt
>>214920684Yes but that doesn't change 50s southern temperatures lead to a billion percent increase once they escaped. Don't you dare deflect from that you faggot retard.
>>214920563Nine inches since 1880
>>214920638These people aren't worth arguing with because of just how fucking stupid they are. Some of them are probably just baiting but still its very sad just how fucking stupid people are now.
>>214920728>Nine inches since 1880you can't possibly believe this. look at photos from 1880 lmao
>>214920726Do you think industrialization only started in the 1960s or something do you think the increasing temperature isn't helping the population increase more rapidly or something?
>>214920739I concur, climate alarmists really are fucking stupid.
>>214920766>the south was never hot until the industrial revolution!You do know the spot in south africa Nutria are from is EXACTLY like the south? Of course you dont youre spewing propaganda that ignores the big picture.
>>214920793>south africaSouth america lol. Same thing really.
>>214920791
>>214920793Yet here they are definitely breeding uncontrollably and tearing away at the coastline bit by bit instead of the coast being some unchanging static thing you falsely claimed it to be.
>>214920958Alright you're right invasive species are a problem but I was obviously in context talking about climate changing flooding the entire country.
>>214920581Because the psyop is to conflate fringe beliefs with antisemitism so it can be dismissed without further thought.
>>214920977No, you said the coast and climate hasn't changed at all and you are clearly wrong about the coast, with a bit more research you will find you are wrong about the average temperature too.
Based so we're using nuclear energy to save the world right? right?
>>214920999>still can't admit it has nothing to do with the growing Nutria pop and they'd flourish in the south no matter whatYou're such a disingenuous cunt lmao.
>>214921010yes and coal
>>214921019>t. the bad faith retard who won't admit he was wrong about the coast degrading and the average temperature of southern states rising
I think that movie was more a product of cynically taking something from the headlines for a dumb disaster movie premise than about genuine belief in something, though I doubt they'd miss the chance to pretend otherwise if they thought they'd get a single extra ticket out of it>>214921010More like nobody is going to have any room to give a shit when they realize the power demands of both attempting to bring manufacturing here and AI bullshit
>>214921010Nuclear energy has proven to be worse than tried and trusted fossil fuels. Coal, oil, and gas have been reliable for centuries and are more than enough to power the planet for centuries to come.
Al Gore was right(he also won Florida and the election)
I don't believe in global warming cause wealth people fear death and they don't seem that afraid of it. It's all just a scam to kill the middle class they despise with all their hearts.
>>214921285That is pretty stupid. That's like saying immigration makes no difference to public safety because rich people don't care or encourage immigration. It's because they're rich that they don't have to fear it.
>>214920638>I will say it’s definitely true.By what fucking metric? How strong SHOULD a Hurricane be? The fuck is the baseline for storms getting "more intense"?
>>214920638>98% scientific consensusA consensus that "the weather changes a bit" is not exactly a ln Earth-Shattering Truth-Bomb.
>>214921330The consensus is that humans are responsible for climate change.
>>214920728I seriously fuckin' doubt they were accurately able to measure baselines or changes in the global sea-level down to the inches in 18-fuckin'-80.This was more than 20 years before there was a scientific consensus that gorillas fucking existed, by the way.
>>214921347It was for the gene therapy too.
>>214921145>Nuclear energy has proven to be worse than tried and trusted fossil fuels. When the fuck did that happen?
>>214920448>>214920497
>>214921347The "consensus" was also that we were heading into a new ice age, that TEL is a fantastic additive to petrol, and thalidomide is a great supplement for pregnant women
>>214920310>Rising global temperatures from greenhouse gases.This is happening >Melting ice caps & glaciers, especially Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica.This is happening >Rising sea levels flooding coastal cities and islands.This is happening >More extreme weather: stronger storms, floods, droughts, heatwaves.This is happening
>>214921010Pffft, no, of course not.Nuclear scary, so therefore it must instead be covered using ineffective, expensive methods like boondoggle wind-farms and solar-collectors, which have the happy benefit of draining money from White people and into the government's hands via taxes, where they will reallocate as, and to which demographics, they see fit.
>>214921368How many billions has NYC invested in seawalls and how much do they plan on investing in the near future to maintain that level?
>>214921373That was never the consensus. Before Present is before 1950, so i's definitely not 2015 CE. That's what 0 means in all those graphs. You're being manipulated and you don't even care.
>>214921373>The "consensus" was also that we were heading into a new ice ageThe vast majority of published climate science papers in the 1970s were related to the same concern that prevails today: warming due to the increase in heat-trapping gases. There were a few papers published at that time on the issue of particle pollution (mostly from coal plants which did not yet have scrubbers) blocking out some of the incoming sunlight and exerting a short-term cooling influence. Some media outlets picked up on this and sensationalized the notion of global cooling, contrary to the concerns of most climate scientists.Because it has been a persistent myth that scientists warned of cooling in the 1970s, researchers examined this question and published their findings in 2008 in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society. They concluded: “There was no scientific consensus in the 1970s that the earth was headed into an imminent ice age. Indeed the possibility of anthropogenic [human-caused] warming dominated the peer-reviewed literature even then.”https://climateprimer.mit.edu/dispelling-myths/
I don't really understand why there is so much Leftist hyper-fixation on a supposed, nebulous connection between collective human activity and general weather-patterns as far as "environmentalism" goes, as opposed to much more concrete (not to mention alarming) things like various contaminants being dumped into the water supply. There's not really any question as to the direct negative impact that can have, and yet that seems to go on the back-burner compared to trying to convince me that NOT paying higher taxes or NOT buying """carbon credits""" is responsible for Hurricanes supposedly being "worse" than they would be otherwise.I wonder why that is?
>>214921417>Before Present is before 1950Lmao since fucking when?
>>214921481How much does BP pay you?
>>214921492https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present
I don’t know about other countries but korea is just as warm as 2000. Climate change is hoax
>>214920310>you now remember the ozone layer and acid rain
>>214921588You know what solved the ozone layer issue right
>>214920310Al Gore is one of the biggest scumbags on the planet. “Global Warming” is a fucking joke and anyone who legitimately believes in that bullshit is a retarded jungle nigger.
>>214921548>if you call into question the absolutely nonsensical policies that exist solely as chicanery for the common citizen while doing exactly diddly squat to combat so called climate change, you must be a BP shillk
>>214921594waiting for the next big thing to panic about?
>>214921631Why don't you answer the question
>>214921631humanity came together and banned the stuff fucking up the ozone layer
>>214921673I dont know, what solved the issue? banning hair spray?that is a slightly easier sell than deindustrializing the entire west and forcing everyone to go on a vegan diet
>>214921481Like every leftist position, it is countered by another leftist position>We need to reduce everyone's carbon footprint and reduce pollution!>We also need to import millions of third-worlders to western countries so that they can have bigger carbon footprints and create horrific pollution and trash dumping on par with their own countries!
>>214921721Yep.if they really wanted to reduce carbon footprint they should advocate zero immigration policy.
It's getting redder!
>>214921373Russians shilling for more fossil fuel usage? As if their entire country budget heavily depended on oil and gas sales?Unbelievable!
>>214921481> nebulous connection> Releasing so much CO2 in a year that took millions of years to capture definitely has no effect on climate
>>214921588We took political action and fixed the issues. Do you think we solved those with magic?
>>214921807You of course realise that all our data shows an increase in temperature causes increased CO2 levels, never the other way around.But heyho, can't force more chicanery on the common man by following the actual science I guess.
>>214921899>CO2 is released because of temperature, not by millions of engines burning fuel every day
>>214920310>More extreme weather: stronger storms, floods, droughts, heatwaves.Those literally happen every year dough
>>214921807>>214921919Obviously the solution is to force low-income people to buy electric cars (powered by coal) in order to stop CO2 emissionsOr better yet, we can increase taxes so that we can buy "carbon credits" which means we'll give the money to China if they promise to not produce CO2, because obviously they wouldn't just lie and take the money right?
>>214921414Why don't you tell me? I can't find any info about seawalls that protect the statue of liberty
>>214921927"Stronger" compared to what? We're not breaking wind-speed records every hurricane season.
Our lifetimes are defined by obvious hoaxes such as global warming, ai and vaxxing. Also jewish genocide and perpetual wars. But I think everyone knows that everything is fake and I wonder if the crash is coming and what happens then. Personally I think we will spend our lives in the drone panopticon because the oil won't run out before 2060.>>214920484The rabbit hole goes deeper than this. The guy who founded all green energy initiatives is https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Daniel_Cohn-Benditread it
>>214920448Literally unreadable post
>>214921961Stronger compared to 15 years ago
>>214920310Burgers have no idea what real pollution looks like, places in SEA or India where every inch of land is covered in trash and industrial waste is just dumped into random rivers. They act like every environmental protection is draconian not knowing how bad it can get if you let every corpo or random do whatever they want to your environment. There are literally some places in the world where the water, food and air is all toxic.
>>21492199815 years ago there was a tsunami that killed 500k people
>>214921899That CO2 can lag behind but amplify temperature during a glacial-interglacial transition was in fact predicted as long ago as 1990. In the paper The Ice-Core Record: Climate Sensitivity and Future Greenhouse Warming by Claude Lorius and colleagues published in the journal Nature in 1990, a key passage reads:>The discovery of significant changes in climate forcing linked with the composition of the atmosphere has led to the idea that changes in the CO2 and CH4 content have played a significant part in the glacial-interglacial climate changes by amplifying, together with the growth and decay of the Northern Hemisphere ice sheets, the relatively weak orbital forcing and by constituting a link between the Northern and Southern Hemisphere climates."This was published over a decade before ice core records were accurate enough to confirm a CO2 lag. We now know that CO2 didn't initiate the warming from past ice ages but it did amplify the warming. In fact, about 90% of the global warming followed the CO2 increase.Antarctic ice cores reveal an interesting story, now going back for around 800,000 years. During this period, changes in CO2 levels tend to follow changes in temperatures by about 600 to 1000 years. This has led some to disingenuously claim that CO2 simply cannot be responsible for the current global warming. Unsurprisingly, such a claim does not tell the whole story.
>>214921414The wall looks the same height to me, and so does the water
>>214921548>If you ask questions about the motives of the people telling you to LISTEN & BELIEVE and to PAY-UP NOW, you work for le Big OilLmao, BP also literally has a page on their official website talking about how SUPER REAL and important "climate change" is and all the different things they're doing to help combat it, just like every major oil company. No climatetard that forwards the conspiracy-theory that le Big Oil pays people to go out and create disingenuous, inorganic doubt about muh climate change (i.e. the climatetard's favorite explanation as to WHY anyone could ever dare to question them) has ever been able to explain to me why this is the case, or why they would so pointlessly and flippantly blow their ENTIRE supposed ruse by doing that.
>>214921899>>214922017The initial change in temperature as an ice-age comes to an end is triggered by cyclic changes in Earth’s orbit around the sun, affecting the amount of seasonal sunlight reaching Earth’s surface in the Northern Hemisphere. The cycles are lengthy: all of them take tens of thousands of years to complete.As both land and oceans start to warm up, they both release large amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere, from melting permafrost and from warming ocean water, since CO2 solubility in water is greater in cold conditions. That release enhances the greenhouse effect, amplifying the warming trend and leading to yet more CO2 being degassed. In other words, increasing CO2 levels become both the cause and effect of further warming. Once started, it’s a vicious, self-reinforcing cycle - an excellent example of what science refers to as a positive climate feedback.Such positive feedbacks are necessary to complete the shifts from glacial to interglacial conditions, since the effect of orbital changes alone are too weak to fully drive such variations. Additional positive feedbacks which play an important role in this process include other greenhouse gases like methane - you may have seen videos of that gas bubbling up through icy lakes in permafrost country and being ignited. Changes in ice sheet cover and vegetation patterns determine the amount of Solar energy getting absorbed by Earth’s surface or being reflected back out to space: decrease an ice-sheet’s area and warming will thereby increase.
>>214922008ThisRegardless of whether you believe in some schizo conspiracy that climate change is fake, its unequivocally true that we are absolutely raping and polluting the globe to feed and consoom for billions of useless eaters
>>214921899>>214922053The detailed mechanisms for the above general pattern have of course been investigated. In a 2012 study, published in the journal Nature (Shakun et al. 2012), Jeremy Shakun and colleagues looked at global temperature changes at the commencement of the last glacial-interglacial transition. This work added a lot of vital detail to our understanding of the CO2-temperature change relationship. They found that:1) The Earth's orbital cycles triggered warming in the Arctic approximately 19,000 years ago, causing large amounts of ice to melt, flooding the oceans with fresh water.2) This influx of fresh water then disrupted ocean current circulation, in turn causing a seesawing of heat between the hemispheres.3) The Southern Hemisphere and its oceans warmed first, starting about 18,000 years ago. As the Southern Ocean warms, the solubility of CO2 in water falls. This causes the oceans to give up more CO2, releasing it into the atmosphere.4) Finally, CO2 levels may lag temperature in some ice-core records from Antarctica, but in some other parts of the world the reverse was the case: temperature and CO2 either rose in pace or temperature lagged CO2.
all of this shit Is why I was a conservative long before Trump or 4chan switched sides. For decades there has always been some doomsday hysteria the left makes up and then eventually completely forgets about
>>214920361My parents own a beachfront house in Sandbridge Beach, Virginia. Everything is literally the same every year including normal sand erosion and replacement
>>214922060>useless eatersGo back to /pol/
>>2149220852 billion jeets and 1 billion chinks polluting the fuck out of the globe and fishing the oceans clean is not “doomsday propaganda”, its real and happening right now
>>214922012Tsunami is a seismic event you retard
>>214922012non-sequitur
>>214922122yes, they do pollute a great deal. but forcing expensive and pointless green initiative laws in western countries wont prevent anything china is doing. the left completely ignore this and only lectures america and europe
>>214922122Western countries are responsible for most of the shit in our atmosphere
>>214921947Look for the ones that protect NYC in general.
>>214921995This isn't the place to beg for english lessons, esl.
>>214922161>the left completely ignore this and only lectures america and europeWhere? I hear China constantly being criticized too.
>>214922178bro update your graph
>>214921943americans on the entire political spectrum can't fathom degrowth
>>214922229theres no way to make china actually not pollute. the only audience for liberal climate bullshit is in western countries that arent the real problem to begin with
Leftists basically don't believe in a single real thing. It's an ideology built around inventing distractions and buying into them until they can be falsified whereupon you pretend like you never believed in it, rinse and repeat. Remember how Net Neutrality was going to kill the internet?
Chinkbot thread btw
>>214922337Chinks were the ones that spread climate FUD so that we would handicap ourselves dummy. They're polluting and industrializing to their heart's content.
>>214922200I've looked for ones that protect NYC, Manhattan, and the statue of liberty and haven't found anything great. Too many articles about new shit they're building. If you know something link it, otherwise why should I believe you?
what got me to never believe in global warming was the ocean levels rising meme. if any of that was true why would people still be investing in expensive buildings and homes right on the water? and here we are 20 years later and the ocean didnt fuck up anything besides new Orleans which is a swamp below sea level
>>214920310Didn't this movie unironically use 'The Day After Tomorrow' footage?
>>214921414>How many billions has NYC invested in seawallsSea walls are for erosion not a net ocean rise, you stupid fuck
Hey guys, we're going to cut down thousands of acers of your public forest to up solar farms and reduce Co2 to save Earth :)
>>214922587Not the acers!
>>214922008Nigga ain't nobody in the USA fighting to repeal regulations that keep people from dumping Nuclear Waste in their backyards. That "Burger" is a Strawman you made up in your head and doesn't exist in reality.The kind of environmental laws people are complaining about being draconian is shit like cranking up taxes on the Middle-Class owning and operating a vehicle in order to supposedly "compensate for their environmental impact" (which is never what that money ends up being used for), or to just outright discourage car ownership through artificially increased expense.And the fact that those laws protecting the environment within America even exist in the first place is largely thanks to Richard Nixon, I.e. not only a Republican but Enemy Republican #1 according to stereotypes and the media. He also is the reason America no longer researches Biological Weapons for use in warfare.
>>214922008E-waste is currently the worst ecological disaster we're facing, so it's odd that all this "green tech" is going to reduce pollution
>>214922122Okay? But that's not the Doomsday Event that Democrats are warning us about.
>>214920310It's okay we have experts on the case, praise science
>>214922549Isn't it very slow moving tectonic activity that causes sea level changes not "ice melting"
>>214922629yeah. I dont think an inconvenient truth mentioned china at all
>we're going to save the planet by destroying the green belt and putting a bunch of chink made plastic solar panels all over it powerful
>>214922638the Chesapeake bay is sinking because the plate its sitting on is sinking after shifting from having a mile of ice on it since the ice ageEven though every geologist knows this, you'll still see SEA RISE propaganda articles about itTheres no such thing as localized sea rise
>>214922549>Sea front property is naturally limited>people view sea levels rise as a far odd problem>tax incentives for high-income property owners>federal subsidies that currently cover measures to mitigate property damage from storms and floodingSubsidies can slow a market’s adjustment to long-term climate risks by hiding the costs to counter the risks. Taxpayer dollars are covering a big part of the cost, basically.>>214922638No, the sea level rise we're discussing is a natural consequence of the warming of our planet. We know this from basic physics. When water heats up, it expands. So when the ocean warms, sea level rises. When ice is exposed to heat, it melts. And when ice on land melts and water runs into the ocean, sea level rises.For thousands of years, sea level has remained relatively stable and human communities have settled along the planet’s coastlines. But now Earth’s seas are rising. Globally, sea level has risen about eight inches since the beginning of the 20th century and more than two inches in the last 20 years alone. All signs suggest that this rise is accelerating.
>>214920484>white people can somehow only work in the fossil industryGermany used to be the leader in solar technology, until the government stopped most of the funding and gave money for Russian gas instead.Then China with its generous government funding easily took over.
I remember when this came out, Gore was telling everyone that they need to drastically reduce their carbon footprint and it turned out between his mansions and private flights his carbon footprint was something ridiculous like 20x that of the avg citizen.>no, no, no, I didnt mean me>I meant YOU!
>>214921347Oh yes hmm and when that DNA guy revealed that there are racial differences in IQ, did the "scientific consensus" reflect that, or did it reflect that all these limp-wrist pussy scientist faggots are bought and paid for by "science funding" (read: biased governments with an agenda) and that they will jump as soon as their masters ask them to?
>>214920484We could've made solar panels and green tech be working class industries in the US. Instead the government let companies offshore and now we're heading into the american century of humiliation.
>>214920310Literally all of those things are already happening, you idiot
>>214922807I guess you should keep voting for democrats to pass laws making everything more expensive then right?
>>214922831Yeah things are super cheap now!
>>21492278423 years of satellite record data beats anon in a Tajikistani flint knapping forum
>>214922798No we couldn't because those are fundamentally unprofitable and require government subsidy, which is a net zero productivity loop. We should be producing safer/cleaner ways to use fossil fuels and nuclear while only exploring wind/solar where actually profitable.
>>214922832https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/climate-change/global-warming/the-melting-ice-caps>>214922784https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level
>>214922837I hope some liberals add a carbon footprint tax on everything so I cant afford to go anywhere or do anything. but at least that will save the world right?
>>214922859There's nothing more greedy than forcing people to rely on an energy source found only in a few countries on earth, while things like solar and wind exist everywhere
>>214922857Nuclear only became a thing because the government spent a fuck ton in developing the technology.There is not one commercial nuclear power plant in the world that was built without government subsidies, or a government-enforced local energy monopoly.And that's after half a century of massive government funded R&D.
>>214922897I mean, the Qanon right is the exact same way. whens the last time they had a coherent answer to anything
>>214922874https://sealevel.nasa.gov/news/90/25-years-of-global-sea-level-data-and-counting/
>>214922923Yeah, but their outputs are subpar. What the fuck are we going to do, cover fucking everything in panels and turbines??
>>214922865>posts emotional redditor bullshit
>>214922923You would have a point, if Solar and Wind actually covered even a fraction of the energy demands of the average western country.
>>214921943All the electric car shilling always neglects to mention where the power comes from and how the batteries go on a world tour to be made
>>214922972Qanon still exists?
>>214922994>1.76 MB PNG>>>214922923 (You) #>I don't care what other countries do, you faggotYou should, retard. You share the atmosphere with every other country on the planet. Build a wall around your entire state if you like, China's emissions will fuck you all the same.
>>214922970France has proven it can be easily done. The more it is used the more it will be researched and improved, the fact that we aren't going more after fusion is criminal.
>>214923034You don't consider 30% "even a fraction"?
>>214923071What even is this image depicting or where is it from? Why do you redditor cultists expect people to see a random graph and take it at face value?
>>214923030>Factual information is redditor BSWhat shitty anime character do I need to spoon-feed you this information with for you to listen? Let me guess, it has to be through cuck porn. My favorite is that scientist in the 70's and 80's. said we would have super storms and we are getting them now.
>>214923100>climate.gov>factualYou are a cultist
>>214922008And this is a new thing. Industrial technology has destroyed places and low iqs dumping plastic (a wonder material) have ruined others.
>>214920310Poop
>>214923092learn to reverse image search, newfriendthe source is easily found:https://www.bigissue.com/news/environment/earth-day-inside-the-renewables-revolution/other sources with similar data are easily googled too but I leave that as your homework
>>214923071You could just link whatever article you pulled that graph from. I have the feeling you won't since it might expose you though.
>>214922122See how mad that made them? This fact breaks their minds. They.can't process it.
>>214923070The French government invested billions into nuclear for it (and they struggled worse than Germany last year with their aging reactors and shortage of coolant water)Nothing comes free.For some reason a lot of libertarian-minded people tend to think nuclear = free money. I don't know what started it, maybe just simple contrarianism.
>>214923126>Meanwhile in applicationhttps://www.worksinprogress.news/p/the-breaking-of-britains-nationalOh look, not only is it fucking up, it's costing everyone more money too!
>>214923208>moving the goal postSo do you admit that one could consider that "even a fraction" is covered by solar or wind or not?
>>214923041At the beginning of their lives, EVs are emissions-intensive, thanks in large part to their battery-manufacturing needs. But once on the road, internal combustion engine vehicles (ICEs) quickly speed past BEVS – in terms of CO2 emissions, at least – because of the heavy emissions that ICE cars spew
>>214923245Nothing is being covered by renewables anywhere, it's literally causing major issues and people are losing out on shit loads of money you fuckin idiot
>>214923041>always neglects to mention where the power comes fromA driver in the US would reach the breakeven point at 41,000 km – or in around two years of driving, assuming an average annual distance traveled of around 19,000 km. In China, meanwhile, the breakeven distance would fall at 118,000 km, or after roughly 10 years, due to the region’s fossil-fuel-heavy grid.
>>214923265>source: the council paid to come up with results like this
>>214923265And what produces the electricity?
>Keep hearing that the ice caps will melt and we'll need to build sea walls to save us>Kept hearing that the ocean will rise by 20 meters by 2027 or whatever>Literally nothing has happenedI'm not even against doing """"""""Clean""""""" energy shit but were they just lying about this or is it still going to happen according to them?
>live by one of the largest on shore wind farms in my country>it's so shit they're building a natural gas power plant about 5 miles away from it that will supply the majority of power when it becomes operational Thank you science!
>>214923265If electric cars had a long shelf life, and planned obsolescence wasn't at the heart of production in the modern world, this might be a point in EVs favour. As it stands though, the fact that most of the damage is done upfront, rather than over its entire life works against it.
>>214923281Then why is texas embracing renewable energyhttps://www.ft.com/content/ef2f6f8e-60df-4ccd-8c4f-ef5cd0eb3176>When the latest batch of solar plants come on line, Texas will have added more solar capacity per capita in a single year than any US state and any country in the world. Almost overnight, a state synonymous with dirty fuels has become America’s clean energy giant, and the trend is still accelerating.>Texas is still heavily reliant on gas, but its transition towards clean energy is emblematic of a dynamic that plays out time and time again in climate discussion: economics has a habit of winning out over politics and ideology.
>>214923294You're blind to the millions of brown and black people genocided by you Whites through your climate terrorism
>>214923071Something tells me this merely shows total energy produced and doesn't factor in that both wind and solar energy mostly go to waste and can't be stored efficiently. Reminds me of that article that tried to claim some Californian city was "running entirely on green energy" when in reality they just showed that a massive excess of solar energy was generated and then went to waste due to lack of storage.
>>214923293That's taken into account, that's what the graph >>214923283 is pointing out. It depends on the country, that's why the break even point differs. A country more reliant on fossil fuels is gonna extend the break even point, a county with more renewable is gonna speed that up.
>>214923400The graph that people were paid to make, mind you
>>214923043they may not call themselves that anymore, but they didnt all die. of course those people still exist
>>214923374Climate terrorism like throwing millions of tons of plastic and waste into the major rivers of the world and the oceans and building unregulated massive factory complexes without any filters or safety measures.Oh no wait, that was literally all China and thirdies.
>>214923378>blah blah actual data doesn't count 'cause shit pulled out of my ass without even attempting to provide any data for my claims
>>214923453He's actually right, and that's covered here>>214923208
>>214920377>Arctic>Antarctic>Iraq>IranThen the linked article outright points out this isn't even unusual and tries having it all ways.
So you got one system where to meet increased energy demands (such as, for example, night falling and everyone and their mum blasting lights through the evening and night) you can basically just throw a couple more pellets in the fire and all keeps working as is, and one system where to meet increased energy demands, you can't actually do shit since you're at the mercy of purely natural phenomena humans have no control over and you'll basically just have to deal with brown-outs or, worst case, black-outs.Which of these two hypothetical systems would you say actually covers the energy demands of a city or state?Wrong answers only.
>>214923488>https://www.worksinprogress.news/p/the-breaking-of-britains-nationalMostly what this seems to say is there are problems in Britain due to aging underfunded energy infrastructure and bad government planningWhere in that article does it say that actual use of wind energy can't be considered even a fraction?
>>214923431>Climate terrorism like throwing millions of tons of plastic and waste into the major rivers of the world and the oceans and building unregulated massive factory complexes without any filters or safety measures.That's what the west did until the last couple decades, and why our cumulative emissions are so bad >>214922178Even if india and China never existed we'd still be in a bad position.
>>214923554Do batteries not exist
>>214920310And the same Lefty faggots chugging Tylenol because you can't trust a politician on 'teh science' were lapping up Al Gore's shit for a decade.If you didn't know it was bullshit then and now, or notice that his 'muh tipping point' predictions just happened to coincide with US election cycles, you're fucking retarded and will probably fall for the next doomsday cult bullshit too.You're actually stupider than this fucking guy:https://youtu.be/QynNpzqYt0Y?t=842There's some envirofaggot doom scenario every decade or so and 'teh science' guarantees it!
>>214923576>>214923610>The other challenge is geography. The vast majority of the UK’s onshore wind farms are in Scotland; solar projects are disproportionately concentrated in Cornwall, Devon, and Somerset; and offshore wind in the North Sea. Moving this electricity to where it’s actually needed depends on high-voltage transmission lines. These lines need to be built not for the average production over the year – typically 31 percent of nameplate capacity for wind and 10 percent for solar in the UK – but for maximum production, otherwise they will run into capacity limitations during peak production hours.>When energy then can’t be absorbed into the local electricity grid, the government has to pay operators to switch it off through curtailment payments, or discharge it into the ground. This shit just doesn't fuckin work you tard
>>214920310Ah yes, the non-existent extreme weather events.
>>214923554using night time as evidence against solar panels is a fallacy now since panels have gotten so sophisticated that they work during the nighthttps://www.ecoticias.com/en/first-ever-solar-night-panel-unveiled/9959/new solar panels still produce electricity during the night
>>214923692Nothing you quoted says that.
>>214923700>there were never any hurricanes before the 20th century
If CO2 emissions are that bad how come Zelenski gets to fly his private jet around the globe, why not just use TeamSpeak?
>>214923733So not just ignorant but also blind. Or maybe just illiterate.
>>214923733No, you're just refusing to accept reality. The very method that these sources contribute energy to the grid cannot be regulated the same ways the old sources of energy could, which leads susceptibility to blackouts
>>214923773why is anyone allowed to use private jets if CO2 is so bad
>>214921373I'm not reading anything by someone who uses memespeak
>>214923789That's a completely different argument from "use of wind energy can't be considered even a fraction"Your quote even mentions that it works for the average production of 31% - just not for the maximum production which require better lines.
>>214923806If human beings are the cause of climate change then why are leftoids trying to breed as many turd worlders as possible?
>>214923856to punish evil white people. same reason they tell western whites to not breed and say overpopulation is bad
>>214920310There’s no apocalypse but the climate has become warmer there’s no doubt. It was never this hot in Winnipeg in late September when I was younger, not even close. This is July weather when I was a kid. It used to normally snow just before Halloween when I was a kid and that never happens anymore. It doesn’t snow until November or even December now. Winter is way shorter, less snow, and way less cold.
>>214923834No, it's saying that high voltage lines would need to be built to even sustain that average. Essentially the numbers you are referring to are "best case scenario" which is pathetic given how much of a colossal change this is
>>214923885Excellent anecdotal evidence and completely useless.
>>214923885shut the fuck up, leaf
>>214923885I guaruntee you if you look up the record highs and lows in your city you will see warming periods. I thought the same thing here in Michigan when it was 60 degrees during Christmas, but as it turns out that happened all the fuckin time https://www.weather.gov/dtx/DTW_Dec_recMy favorite one is that it was 64 degrees Christmas day in 1982, then in 1983 Christmas day was fuckin -10
>>214923895Where does the quote say that?Where in the entire article is it disputed that the use of wind energy cannot be considered even a fraction?It is such a ludicrous and extreme statement. Even if over half the 30% was wasted and wrongly counted, you'd still be wrong.And if you can't even concede something so obviously wrong, then there's just no point in talking to you.
>>214920310Even if true, nobody is doing anything about it. The rich and elites do most of the pollution and they aren't giving up their life style anytime soon.Mass migration has far worse impacts on a country than climate change. Yet the rich still exploit niggers and jeets.When private jets, mass immigration and beach front houses drop in price, call me.
>>214923917>>214923931>>214923933The freezing and thawing days of the river are getting shorter and shorter every year. It’s on record. You’re just a bunch of zoomies thats all
>>214923996yeah theres no real solution, and even if there is nobody let alone you and me has the power to do anything about it. so if decades after I die its pretty hot, why should I care
>>214924028what do you want to do about it? have the government control more of your life?
>>214923966It's in the article right above the original statement>The electronic inverters that convert solar panels’ or wind turbines’ power to alternating current and connect it to the grid don't provide the inertia of large rotating generators, as they have none of the kinetic energy that stabilises mechanical turbines. Something as simple as a cloud passing over a solar installation can cause rapid fluctuations in output. If capacity comes offline in one area, generators elsewhere on the grid suddenly have to work harder. The added strain causes their turbines to slow. This means the system needs to replace potentially hundreds of megawatts of power within minutes to maintain stability.
>>214924028Bullshit. I'm 35 and the weather is literally no different. I remember when I was in middle school the water levels were really low and they all said it was climate change. Then a few winters later there was so much snow that melted all the water levels were higher than they ever were and boats looked like they were ontop of people's lawns.
>>214923834They don't generate even a fraction of the energy the average western country requires, since almost all of what energy they do produce is wasted (as in not "consumed" as it is being generated and generated in excess, in a way that we can't capture for later use, meaning it basically fucking evaporates, unlike conventional power sources (and hydro)). Meaning you generate a lot of it when you don't need it (and risk overloading the grid since its designed for a steady flow of energy, not peaks and troughs), and don't have any of it when you actually do (because no decent storage and no way to make them generate power at will like conventional sources).Therefore, with our current level of technological progress, neither wind nor solar cover a fucking fraction of what we actually need and consume in terms of energy. Both have the potential to, if we ever manage to fix their glaring issues concerning storage and the grid, but until then, they can jolly well fuck off.I know you won't accept the facts and just find a new way to pilpul, but who gives a shit at this point.
>>214924066Where does it say 31% is a best case scenario here and not the actual average use here?I see zero mentions of it.
>>214924052Nobody is controlling anything of life. Im not scared or angry, but something needs to be done for sure. You seem eager to give up on the world.
>>214924129It is 'literally' spelling out how the energy that these elements produce cannot be added to the energy grid
>>214924124>since almost all of what energy they do produce is wastedWhere does your article say almost all of the energy gets wasted?I'm starting to doubt your basic literacy at this point. Am I just talking to some Rand think tank LLM?
>>214924139>Nobody is controlling anything of life.I'd say banning combustion cars and fucking over your populace during winter time is pretty controlling
>>214924174Yeah, it explains how some of the energy gets wasted.Where does it say that thisa) the waste gets wrongfully counted to the 31%b) that 31% is a best case scenario and not the actual average
>>214924179>When energy then can’t be absorbed into the local electricity grid, the government has to pay operators to switch it off through curtailment payments, or discharge it into the ground.
>>214924099It’s not some big doomesday that people need to panic about. But it’s warmer now than it was 20 years ago. All data shows it. I don’t care about left wing or right wing and neither should anybody. If you do you’re an idiot. There are climate alarmists but that doesn’t mean climate change is “fake”
>>214924179You didn't have to immediately prove me right you know. I get that you're either unable or unwilling to read what was linked to you. But it's honestly getting a bit sad at this point.
>>214920310it's funny how they screamed for over a decade that we were killing the ozone and melting the glaciers and then they just sort of completely stopped saying anything and never apologized for brow beating and trying to shame the general public into changing their habits for whatever the real reason was.
>>214924139> but something needs to be done for sure. You seem eager to give up on the world.peak bugmenthe "do something" is rise your taxes forever for a problem that isn't even real by any actual metric
>>214924188Nobody is banning that though. You’re trying to make me scared and angry and it’s not working.
>>214924208Where does it say "almost all of the energy" or anything like it, you fucking illiterate.
>>214924205The "31% nameplate capacity" is referring to the manufacturer's standards that rely on specific, ideal conditions.
>>214920310He was wrong about everything. This film brainwashed a entire generation. The polar bear population, which Gore said was going extinct, is actually thriving and doing better than it ever has before. The Great Barrier reef is completely fine, and in fact is getting bigger every year.
>>214924227>But it’s warmer now than it was 20 years ago. All data shows itBut it doesn't?
>>214924227I 'literally' just showed you data that it isn't, like at all you fuckin tard
>>214924028That's called natural climate change. It has been happening for as long as Earth has existed.
>>214924247>playing up this much semantics because you lost
>>214920343you VILL breath der CO2, und you VILL like it!
>>214924243>Nobody is banning that thoughThey are all over Europe. I get Americans don't much care about Europe, but that doesn't change the fact it is happening. And if the wrong people take office in the US, it will happen there, too.
>>214924243In Canada and Europe ICE cars are to be banned by 2035
>>214924274Remember the Climategate I and II scandals when top global warming scientists in the UK got caught deliberately changing data to show dramatic climate change when there was none, and were talking about it in emails- then nothing happened and everyone kept believing the global warming religion while shouting down anyone who talked about the Climategate scandals?
>>214924330Yeah, not only did their emails show that they changed data and models on order to fit their assertions, they also discussed methods that would block their work from FOI requests
>>214924139You have to eat the bugs.
>>214924240Nobody is going to raise “my” taxes. We’re going to raise taxes on tech companies, social media, marketing, “data collectors” and other freeloaders. That’s where all the wealth in the country is getting wasted, and it needs to be taxed at a very high rate since they aren’t even producing anything of value to society. In fact, I would say they are detrimental.
>>214924376>Nobody is going to raise “my” taxesSo many stupid things were said in this thread, and yet this one is the most stupid of them all. Congrats.
>>214924205How fucking retarded are you people? Like seriously? It's fucking solar and wind, how THE FUCK can you say you are guaranteed to produce "31%" of anything? In fuckin England no less where its overcast all the fucking time
>>214924032My home town here in Australia never has heat waves anymore. Summers have been mild.
>>214924376>where just going to tax, tax, then tax some more!Kill yourself faggot.
>>214924329Not too worried. There are bigger things to worry about now. Like AI propaganda making people angry and stirring conflict. People should try to get along with each other and find common ground.
>>214924252>>214924252>The "31% nameplate capacityThat was not in what you just quoted recently.It's also not a quite correct quoteIt says 31% OF nameplate capacity, meaning the average production is a third of the nameplate capacity, the maximum capacity under ideal conditions (i.e. full wind 24/7)So that 31% actually has nothing to do with percentages of the national grid use and is entirely irrelevant to the 30% of the image.>>214924291almost all or a little isn't semantic31% or 25% or 10% or the 0.0001% that you insist on are not semantics
>>214924376>Nobody is going to raise “my” taxes.> We’re going to raise taxesAhahaha, who's "we?"The entire Climate Change™ narrative is branding for endless taxation of YOU, the common pleb, and your stupid ass fell for the propaganda
>>214924303>if the wrong people take officelol “status quo is the only choice we have!”Haha that’s not how I think, sorry
>>214924441Pull yourself together man, you're completely in shambles.
>>214920484Won't somebody think of the poor oil industry? Whatever happened to standing up for the little guy?
>>214924441nameplate capacity is a theoretical number. You trying to mix a word salad to make your bullshit check out is just pathetic.
>>214924461I see your reading comprehension is not even at grade school level.
>>214924390>>214924414>>214924444>Nooo we can’t tax the tech billionaires because…we just can’t ok?!? lol it’s gonna happen. Even the AI knows it
>>214924474Not so much the oil industry, but the guys in Pennsylvania or wherever working on rigs and such
>>214921368https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level> Global mean sea level has risen about 8–9 inches (21–24 centimeters) since 1880. The rising water level is mostly due to a combination of melt water from glaciers and ice sheets and thermal expansion of seawater as it warms.
>>214924516The only thing that will happen is that you're gonna vote for some clown who promises more taxes on big companies who will then turn around and raise your taxes while you seethe like the idiot you are.
>>214924516>lol it’s gonna happen. Even the AI knows itAre you 15 years old?
>>214922603>Nigga ain't nobody in the USA fighting to repeal regulations that keep people from dumping Nuclear Waste in their backyardsYou don't live in a red state.
>>214924520Why should I believe a government branch that is tasked with proving that climate change is man made?
>>214924491>nameplate capacity is a theoretical number.Yes, I know. It is the maximum theoretical capacity it can offer under ideal conditions.I just explained that.And 31% of that theoretical number gets you the actual average capacity of Scottish wind farms (or wherever).None of that is relevant to total national grid energy source percentages.
>>214920310How come we stopped have winters with lots of snow? how come our summers are like two months shorter and it rains through out most of them? Wtf is going on in Europe, our seasons used to be on the clock down to a T, now they are all fucked up
>>214924582
>>214923692> this shit doesn't work
>>214924588>None of that is relevant to total national grid energy source percentages.Dont try and pretend like you weren't trying to assert that almost a 3rd of England's total energy is coming from solar and wind farms
>>214924582Surely a genius such as yourself can easily disprove their claims, then.btw, was NASA created to prove man-made climate change too?https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/?intent=121
>>214924618Why do redditor cultists think that posting random graphs holds any validity? I dont get it
>>214924627You should immediately be able to tell that's bullshit because the UK has no sunlight.
>>214920310All of this happened.
>>214924627It literally was one third within the last 24 hourshttps://grid.iamkate.com/
>>214924637>"Earth's climate is now changing faster than at any point in the history of modern civilization, primarily as a result of human activities. The impacts of global climate change are already being felt in the United States and are projected to intensify in the future-but the severity of future impacts will depend largely on actions taken to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and to adapt to the changes that will occur."If this is the assertion they make already would it be a wonder how they "studies" they conduct find exactly this? Do you know how statistic collection even works? >NASAhttps://climate.nasa.gov/resources/graphics_and_multimedia/?page=0&per_page=25&order=pub_date+desc&search=&condition_1=1%3Ais_in_resource_list&category=50Yeah I'd say their pretty compromised
>>214924668>unironically posts a vegan lesbian's blog
>>214921627>Why doesn't da left care about this other issue???>No I don't actually care about that issue>but da left should!People can see through your concern trolling. Kill yourself.
>>214924627I wasThe problem is that what you are quoting is entirely irrelevant to it, which is simply talking about how the lines need to be able to handle the full theoretical nameplate capacity, not just the average capacity, to handle the peaks.It has nothing to do with comparing use of different sources on the grid.
>>214924728You are terminally stupid, unfortunately there is no cure :(
>>214924668>>214924695
Climate change is real and natural. Human influence negligible and nothing we can do can make significant changes to what happens. Global warming as described in an inconvenient truth is a complete myth. Idk who is more retarded people who think climate change isn’t real or people that think “going green” can stop it. The only thing we should really worry about is not polluting.
>>214924516Nah, raising taxes on billionaires won’t solve anything. Of course we can and should raise taxes on them, but you overestimate how much money that will bring in. If you want to bring in significant amounts of money you’d have to significantly raise their taxes, which will just result in them taking their money out of the country. Then they will raise your taxes because you don’t have the money to just pick it up and leave. What we really need to do is cut spending with reasonable tax increases on the wealthy.
>>214924582https://psmsl.org/products/reconstructions/You can go through tide guage records and reconstruct sea level rise yourself
>>214924851Why bother? These entities have been caught admitting to fudging data to get what they want back in the early 00s. Notice that nobody uses the bullshit "hockey stick" graph anymore, which was fucking everywhere 20 years ago eh?
>>214924695The politics post on this board recently has been out of control and it’s 100% not genuine. Definitely a coordinated shill campaign, but whether it’s discord trannies or some democrat psyop to try and win back male voters idk. All I know is it’s not natural, just look at so many of these posts like that faggot linking some faggot blog lol. Look at his instagram, says he’s queer and she/her pronouns with a picture of him waving a tranny flag.Go to his mastodon >I’m trans.Discord tranny literally posting his tranny blogs lmao
>>214924766We've been recording daily high and low temperatures at thousands of weather stations worldwide, over land and ocean, for many decades and, in some locations, for more than a century. When different teams of climate scientists in different agencies (e.g., NOAA and NASA) and in other countries (e.g., the U.K.’s Hadley Centre) average these data together, they all find essentially the same result: Earth’s average surface temperature has risen by about 1.8°F (1.0°C) since 1880.In addition to our surface station data, we have many different lines of evidence that Earth is warming. Birds are migrating earlier, and their migration patterns are changing. Lobsters and other marine species are moving north. Plants are blooming earlier in the spring. Mountain glaciers are melting worldwide, and snow cover is declining in the Northern Hemisphere. Greenland’s ice sheet—which holds about 8 percent of Earth’s fresh water—is melting at an accelerating rate. Mean global sea level is rising. Arctic sea ice is declining rapidly in both thickness and extent.We know this warming is largely caused by human activities because the key role that CO2 plays in maintaining Earth’s natural greenhouse effect has been understood since the mid-1800s. Unless it is offset by some equally large cooling influence, more atmospheric CO2 will lead to warmer surface temperatures. Since 1800, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has increased from about 280 parts per million to 410 ppm in 2019. We know from both its rapid increase and its isotopic “fingerprint” that the source of this new carbon dioxide is fossil fuels, and not natural sources like forest fires, volcanoes, or outgassing from the ocean.Finally, no other known climate influences have changed enough to account for the observed warming trend. Taken together, these and other lines of evidence point squarely to human activities as the cause of recent global warming.
>>214924957>—You forgot to delete all of the em dashes from your chatgpt post retard
>>214924957>>214924898
Global local?
>>214924898The basic conclusion of Mann et al. was that the late 20th century warmth in the Northern Hemisphere was unprecedented during at least the last 1000 years. This conclusion has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence that includes both additional large-scale surface temperature reconstructions and pronounced changes in a variety of local proxy indicators, such as melting on ice caps and the retreat of glaciers around the world.Most researchers would agree that while the original hockey stick can – and has – been improved in a number of ways, it was not far off the mark. Most later temperature reconstructions fall within the error bars of the original hockey stick. Some show far more variability leading up to the 20th century than the hockey stick, but none suggest that it has been warmer at any time in the past 1000 years than in the last part of the 20th century.
>>214924957You gonna mention that a great many of these "weather stations" were strategically placed at airports and certain inner city high traffic locations to fudge the data in the right direction, or did your AI generated script not have that info?What about the manipulation of satellite data, that for a couple of decades now has been run through a """corrective""" algorithm before being released to the public? Which just so happens to coincide with an increase in global temperatures that wasn't at all shown in all previous satellite data before this algorithm magically appeared?Or how about the continue practice of constantly "correcting" old climate data down, while simultaneously "correcting" recent climate data up? Surely coincidental and not at all an attempt to create a narrative.
>>214925019>it was not far off the markIt was.>none suggest that it has been warmer at any time in the past 1000 years than in the last part of the 20th century.Medieval warm period was.
>>214924973Retard, it's pasted from https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/what-evidence-exists-earth-warming-and-humans-are-main-cause It was written before chatgpt came about.
>>214925019You have nothing which is why all you can do is paste some cope blog bullshit
>>214925044>>214924898
>>214925022>You gonna mention that a great many of these "weather stations" were strategically placed at airports and certain inner city high traffic locations to fudge the data in the right directionYou're not smart for knowing about the urban heat island effect. Everyone knows about it and it's accounted for in the calculations. >or did your AI generated script not have that info?It's from a government website that was written before chatgpt. It's all mainline shit you'll be taught in a university. >What about the manipulation of satellite data, that for a couple of decades now has been run through a """corrective""" algorithm before being released to the public? Which just so happens to coincide with an increase in global temperatures that wasn't at all shown in all previous satellite data before this algorithm magically appeared?Literally just making shit up>Or how about the continue practice of constantly "correcting" old climate data down, while simultaneously "correcting" recent climate data up? Surely coincidental and not at all an attempt to create a narrative.There's no conspiracy. They explain why adjustments are made https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/history/ And here's another explainer of how/why adjustments are generally done. https://skepticalscience.com/understanding-adjustments-to-temp-data.htmlAlso, they don't have to create a narrative. Physics will do what physics does no matter how much you scream and cry
>>214925045>gov website>cope blogEmail your local university's earth science department and ask them if anything there is wrong.
>>214925308I'm not going to eat the bugs.
>>214925358How about I email Judith Curry and ask about her quitting her job over climate change cultists giving her death threats because she said the models are overblown and there is no imminent danger?
https://x.com/RaptorVsWild/status/1835365307655032873#m
>>214920310Imagine having to pretend to be retarded like this
>>214925308The problem with the propaganda you post is it typically leaves out context. Like the NASA article you posted fails to mention that natural sea levels have been rising since the mid 19th century, and before that the figures aren't very well documented.
>>214922161China pollutes way less per Capita but yes it's the entire system of global corporate trade that is perpetuated by the west which is the problem
>every single year setting new heat records is totally fine just stop worrying about it
>>214925646>setting records************
>>214925646After hundreds of millions of years of globally cooling and heating the earth you think we’d learn by now. I’m ashamed to call myself human.
>>214925555>0.01% of scientists vs 99.99% of scientistsI'm going to go with the scientific consensus. >>214925494No one is telling you to, you're inventing things to be scared of.>>214925591>leaves out context. Like the NASA article you posted fails to mention that natural sea levels have been rising since the mid 19th century, and before that the figures aren't very well documented.Okay? We know that. That's mentioned in every climate textbook, every climate class, and will be in any article and video material not aimed at providing a half literate population a brief summary of what climate change is and why we know it's happening.
>>214925719why are all the people saying these things buying beachfront property and sailing around on private cruise ships?
>>214925719>I'm going to go with the scientific consensus.Fun fact! The person who coined that "98% of climate scientists agree" is a climate change blogger that keeps a database of scientists that disagrees with him ahahahahahhaahhttps://www.desmog.com/climate-disinformation-database/>That's mentioned in every climate textbookIt isn't and pokes a hole in the "humans did this" narrative
>>214920310My home is now getting flooded every 2 years and nearly incinerated by unprecedented fires every year, my investment property is about to fall into the fucking ocean, and summer after summer is the hottest on record. I want to know what fucking wonderland cunts like OP live in so I can safely invest in property there.
>>214925834Where is this at?
>>214925834That's odd considering Obama just bought a waterfront mansion on Martha's Vinyard
>>214925712The rate of change isn't natural and it's going to fuck up our agriculture and is currently causing a mass extinction because animals and plants cannot adapt fast enough
>>214925777>it isn'ttextbooks for elementary school omits it, I'll grant you.
>>214925949Yeah, and I can guarantee it's located on the northside that isn't losing chunks of its coastline with every storm.
>>214920361I don't but Obama does.https://www.khon2.com/local-news/10-facts-about-obamas-18m-hawai%CA%BBi-beachfront-mansion/
>>214925928My investment property is just north of Sydney and the beach has lost about 3 meters since 2019, which has almost entirely collapsed the seawall and left the struts totally exposed. At this rate, if I can't sell it to some retarded developer by about April 2027, the foundations will be stripped out and I'll have to demolish the entire house and essentially render the block worthless.
>>214926219>built in Waimānalo>one of the areas least affected by coastal erosionYeah, that's why.
>>214926219The rich can afford to protect their homes. The rich can afford to abandon their home if they can't protect it. The rest of us can't. If you go to a single boring old home insurance conference there is no debate about climate change. It's built into their business models now. More and more parts of the world simply can't be insured because of rising rates of natural disasters due to climate change.
>>214921481It's strange they are more focused on the environmental impact of cow farts over sex hormones in the water from the massive amounts of birth control being consumed by women
>>214921673Richard Milhouse Nixon created the EPA and banned Nox?
>>214925622Does the planet care about per capita pollution so it excuses pollution in China and India because they have over a billion people but it's a big problem in places like Canada where their population is only 30 or 40 million?
>>214921673>>214921704https://uwaterloo.ca/wat-on-earth/news/telling-little-green-lies
>>214922178What about from 2020-2025?
>>214926386Shouldn't his beachfront property be effected by rising sea levels?
>>214926298How new is this investment property?
>>214926409What about banking conferences?Are banks still offering 30 year mortgages on houses like Obamas that are waterfront property? If sea levels go up by a foot over the next 30 years a lot of these beach front properties would be underwater. If this were true then beachfront property would be at a discount. But we find the exact opposite result. Beachfront property is at a premium. People are spending more on it not less. So why aren't banks putting their money where their mouth is when it comes to rising sea levels and offering mortgages on waterfront properties?
>>214920310leftoids been real quiet since this dropped... like a million years ago. funny how there's no yearly sequels like there could have been, according to the film. best we've gotten since is Collapse and that was /x/-tier.
>>214926738Sea level rise is just the name for a series of linked phenomena which are currently degrading the world's coastlines and rivers, and they don't affect all areas equally. Martha's Vineyard, for example, faces its worst erosion on its south beach where, because of rising sea levels, tides grow more severe, and storms that are already made worse by other climatic conditions, tear into the coast and cause massive deposition. The houses on the coast which face the mainland are protected by periodically reinforced seawalls to protect the coastline against deposition, while the south coast is only home to public roads and beaches, and so is left to degrade because it doesn't serve the wealthy taxpayers who build around more defendable areas.
>>214926834The New York Times has reported local banks are starting to face the reality of providing mortgages for homes in flood-prone areas, since climate change has made severe weather events more likely. In coastal areas, some banks are requiring buyers to pay a 40% down payment for a home rather than the traditional 20%. Local lenders have also begun offloading mortgages onto government-sponsored financial institutions like Fannie Mae to avoid losing money if a home is destroyed because of climate change.https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/climate/climate-seas-30-year-mortgage.html
>>214926966>a paywalled nyt article
>>214926756The house was built in 2011 and while we knew the shore was eroding, it was slow enough that I thought I could flip it for a decent payout. The problem is that erosion ramped up immediately before I bought it and is only getting worse. I still compulsively drive out there and measure it every couple of weeks.
>>214926998You are like helpless babyhttps://archive.is/
>>214926966Flood prone areas=/= areas without historical flooding but happen to be on the coast so would be effected by rising sea levels.
