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>>214937035
He says as he dooms yet another race to die because of the prime directive
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>>214937035
>shut up Wesley
What did he mean by this?
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>>214937035
Cute that crazy censoring lefties now are pretending to care about censorship
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>>214937135
Donate $100 to Mike Pence if you truly care
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The Prime Directive is pretty stupid if you think about it. The unspoken thesis is that there is something inherently moral and valuable about "nature" or circumstance or fate, or some other word for the compounded influences that might wipe out a race of sentient lifeforms or might not.
But they are happy to break every other natural law they can find, zipping around faster than the "speed of light" (actually the speed of gravity and everything else).
Why do you wait to impose your agenda until the monkeys learn to fly? Why do you go ahead and impose your agenda then? Are they secret theists? Shouldn't uplifting life and healing suffering or some other moral impetus be the goal?
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>>214937241
You lost me there at the end and I read and understood the first paragraph. If i were to guess i would assume you are homosexually inclined.
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>>214937241
>The unspoken thesis is that there is something inherently moral and valuable about "nature" or circumstance or fate, or some other word for the compounded influences that might wipe out a race of sentient lifeforms or might not.
No, it's to allow cultures to develop naturally without an outside influence accidentally affecting them through cultural influence, distribution of advanced technology, introducing a foreign pathogen or invasive species, or other such things
>Why do you wait to impose your agenda until the monkeys learn to fly?
Because by then the culture has at the very least learned how to control technology responsibly, and they will be spreading out to the stars anyway, so it's best to give them a warm welcome and a crash course in interstellar relations
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>>214937241
If you contact every civilization before they've reached the warp travel stage then you're going to end up making them all the same. You'll impose your culture, your beliefs on them. They'll turn out like you. How will you ever be surprised. How will you meet someone unique and different unless you let them cook on their own. Prime directive lets people develop as they're intended to by their own conditions without outside input
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>>214937241
24th century moralfagging aside, take a pragmatic view. What’s the best case outcome for the Federation? It’s a low tech species, nothing to trade. If there’s some sort of ultra rare mineral or something, stealth beam it into cargo bay three. If it’s cultural output, set up a hidden recon station and transmit the observations to Quark’s so he can work them into his latest Pre-Warp Girls Gone Wild holoprogram
Tldr: pre-warp civs have nothing the Federation wants so why bother with them?
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>>214937401
>affecting them through cultural interference*
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Also that one episode where Kirk teaches his cavehomie to shoot and his caveslut cucks him and he doesnt shoot Kirk cause prime directive
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I like how Julian is suddenly a relationship and romance expert enough to counsel Miles here

when in S1 and S2 he's completely incompetent romantically and is like a bumbling schoolboy
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>>214937556
Hes indian coded
Indians want to be seen as british
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>>214937556
Julian is consistently an arrogant dipshit. Him giving a married guy advice without any sort of self-awareness is completely in character
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>>214937556
>gave up being a head surgeon and banging prime ballerina every night to go be a frontier doctor
For a supposed genius he's kind of stupid
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>>214937401
All of the bad things you speak of could happen after you get warp tech, and obviously cultures that get warp tech still fuck up in all the bad ways you speak of.
>>214937404
Having all cultures be like your culture is good if your culture is good
>>214937477
They can be turned into productive members of galactic society. The Federation doesn't need to trade with species that have warp tech. The Federation already has warp tech. Everything else is up for grabs.
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the way this show killed off Gowron was gay and sucked
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>>214937823
It was perfect. He got killed by a weeb because he wasn't Klingon enough.
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>>214937803
The point is it’s a one way street: the Feds have to feed the civ tech with no guarantee that won’t just flip on them and not want to join their “grand galactic society,” or possibly even be hostility disposed against it. Fucking space mormons, I swear
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>>214937112
a daring synthesis
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>>214937547
delete that gif, antifa terrorist
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>>214937618
Frontier medicine means no oversight. You think he would have been able to get away with all the shit he did if he was stationed anywhere else?
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It was funny seeing Paris look at pregnant B'Elanna and go "whoa fuck that, I'm out"
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>>214937954
So far so good been doing this since 420chan was a thing
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>>214937803
>All of the bad things you speak of could happen after you get warp tech, and obviously cultures that get warp tech still fuck up in all the bad ways you speak of.
Yeah, but by then they're self sufficient and able to fix their own problems. Having a resource shortage is a lot harder to have once you can just pop down the street to the next star system for some milk
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>>214938161
I don't understand where you got this idea and I'm pretty sure shit has happened in Star Trek that proves it to be dumb and incorrect

>>214937931
there's no way this hypothetical contingency is why they think the Prime Directive is the most important rule of them all

no more sugar for you dildos
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>>214937035
So he would be cool with me walking around the enterprise saying "nigger" then?
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>>214937476
Gowron will breach it
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>>214938463
I’m just saying you don’t need to resort to moralfagging like some pathetic human when there are logical reasons not to bother. You wouldn’t get it
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>>214938472
Considering he's a Klingon and not African, he probably wouldn't even know that word.
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>>214938463
let's put it like this: you have achieved nuclear power. you go to like, subsaharan africa and find a tribe still rubbing sticks together. you give them the tools and knowledge and resources to uplift them to nuclear power overnight. one of two things are going to happen:
-they're going to irradiate themselves and everything around them because they did not achieve that level of technology through natural progression, so they didn't learn to respect it or the dangers associated with it
-they're going to become reliant on you to make sure they don't irradiate themselves, and you've basically created a subservient slave race

by allowing them to progress naturally to the bronze age, iron age, industrial revolution, etc., they will learn lessons along the way that will (hopefully) help them avoid making mistakes in the future. as it stands right now, africa and the middle east are fucked, because you have technologically advanced neighbors subjugating everyone less advanced than them for resources, and spreading advanced technology like firearms, explosives, cell phones, etc., which these less advanced societies are now using to subjugate their neighbors
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>>214938463
prime directive has always been an indefensible shit philosophy that they only reference when it’s convenient to the plot. They routinely violate it but other episodes they make it seem like a cardinal sin to contact an uncontacted planet.
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Fucking fellow TrekBros and Compadres! Did anyone else get lowkey chills when Captain Pike was speaking to Kirk for the first time about the responsibilities of command and sitting in the Captain's chair?
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im filtering lowkey chills to avoid this blatant shilling and i suggest others do the same
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Did they ever say whose stupid idea it was to center the ENT finale around Troi and Riker and something that had nothing at all to do with the episode? What a stupid Fucking decision. Did they at least apologize to ENT fans over this?
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>>214938919
>Did they ever say whose stupid idea it was to center the ENT finale around Troi and Riker and something that had nothing at all to do with the episode?
I think so, yes. the general idea was that since ratings were low for ENT that they wanted to do a sort of thank you to the fans by referencing the trek everyone loved, which was TNG, not realizing that they went about it in the dumbest way possible
>Did they at least apologize to ENT fans over this?
Multiple times, which was actually nice. I miss when producers would acknowledge that they fucked up, instead of instantly calling the fanbase racist sexist bigots
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>>214937135
nazis being able to spread misinfomation is bad.

Good honest folx speaking their truth is good.

It's only complicated if you are a nazi.
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SNW is Fucking dreck and I'm not going to give it a Fucking chance you Benchod bloody Bastard Bitch Madarchod Fucker Fuck you!
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>>214937079
Imagine if we never uplifted all the browns
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>>214937035
>The Drumpfhead
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>>214938060
What about frontier psychiatry?
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>>214938472
>Uhura violently dabs on this Anon's penids
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>>214939267
You Fucking Assholes are the same time of Cocksuckers that made Fucking the Dungeons and Dragons movie Fucking fail because you refused to watch it! And then later when it was streaming and people were seeing it for free everyone was Fucking commenting on how great the movie was and they couldn't believe they didn't see it in the theatres.

Not one person that honestly Fucking watched Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves didn't like it, and everyone that was making fun of the Black Paladin he became most peoples favorite character! Fucking Shitbirds. You young Millennial and/or Zoomer FUCKS!
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>>214938760
It only works the first couple times, everyone knows your bait style now. Gotta get new material.
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>>214939345
There's nothing that can't be cured with a complete mind wipe and personality reconstruction. You can do whatever you want on the frontier.
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>>214939450
Avalanches above, business continues below.
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>>214937035
I don't want to continue the "politics" debate, but too many people forgot the last 5 years and ONLY talk about "censorship" happening right now. I'm never forgetting that shit.

Anyway, someone explain WHY THE UNIVERSAL TRANSLATOR DOESN'T WORK ON DATA'S CAT?
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>>214939392
>tent on the back
fucking kek
I wonder what purpose the duckbill serves
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>>214939405
fukcing bastard bithc fack you bloddy
>>214939480
cats don't use words
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>Don't mind me, just the being the best MU character of all time!
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>>214939487
Would guess at the time people believed the need to mimic all aspects of a bird were paramount, thus the need for a front facing "duck bill" and a downy/fishnet tail, instead of a standard nose cone and tail rudder. I think the Wright flyer actually had the front bill thing too. They also used wing warping as rudder at first.
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>>214939516
>the only likeable character in your entire show is the mirror universe infiltrator
It will never stop being hysterically funny to me.
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>>214939555
dukat syndrome
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>>214939679
Nah, there's plenty of other characters I liked in DS9. I even preferred Weyoun et. al. as villains. This is a wholly unique thing solely for STD, and this is coming from someone that's forced himself through all new trek slop. Even Lower Decks at least had fucking Moopsy.
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>>214937035
thank you captain picard for defending my right to scream the nigger word
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>>214939392
>in the year 2000
Rofl. I’m sure our visions of the future will prove to be equally ludicrous, and that’s a good thing!
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>it's an Archer and Trip are trapped by a cum monster episode
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>>214939992
Harry Mudd is a fucking gem. There were a lot of fat hipster scumbags like him in the early 2010s.
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>>214937477
kek
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>>214940451
>you flatter me sir
This is what a 35 year old looked like in 1967
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>>214937035
The truth is that the first civilization to embrace genetic modification wins. Any other determination is feel good bullshit.
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Im 35, still does.
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>>214940541
Nano-virtualization > gengineering
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>>214940817
transcendental ideation > Nano-virtualization
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why is Geordi such a dickhead to Scotty for no fucking reason?
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>>214940817
What is that supposed to be, like virtual control of nano machines that we can’t make because they’re too small?
>me own son, a fookin’ gene aug. Oh wait, that was my idea, forget I said anything. Definitely not an illegal gene aug, not me own fookin’ son
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>>214937241
The prime directive exists because before the prime directive they destroyed a lot of civilizations, or put themselves in ridiculous positions like having to mediate or fight wars on behalf of lesser civilizations.
The prime directive is a quick, easy reference to remind you dont do these things, its not worth getting involved, it only results in more problems for everyone. But obviously, despite being the prime directive, there is still room for judgment calls when the situation truly warrants it.
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>>214939739
oh no I mean lorca is suffering from dukat syndrome where the villain is the best part
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>>214939216
Further, everyone I do not like is a nazi regardless of their political views or actions.
I'm trans btw.
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>>214937556
We have more in common with him than you might think.
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>>214939533
biplanes have two wings, if you take the second wing off of the biplane you have significant issues with the structural stability and rigidity of the remaining wing, all of the force is applied to a much smaller area and that does not go well if all you have to work with is wood and canvas
additionally, while the second wing makes the biplane slower, it also gives a lot more stability in flight, the less rigid a wing is the less sure you can be that the net force generated by moving air over it will be a lift force, instead you are either likely to be pitched wildly into random directions in flight or snap your wings
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Fucking shitty ass Discovery Season 4. The stupid ships AI, Zorra, is a woman of course, because she is too emotional to do her fucking job. Figures. Just get the ship out of the fucking black subspace void you dumb cunt. Now she's fucking singing Stormy Weather while Michael Burnham melts from the heat. Season 4 makes season 3 look like entertaining television by comparison. The whole series makes Lower Decks look like Emmy award winning material.
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>>214941254
I thought the thumbnail was going to be him describing how he was slow as a child...
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>>214941787
He was a slow boy. A very slow boy.
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All spoonheads must die.
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>>214942097
amorphous gooey tendrils typed this post
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>>214937035
bro this guy hasn't aged a day in 60 years is he seriously even human?
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>>214942162
Incorrect.
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>>214942097
But I want to have sex with female Cardassians
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>>214942163
he didn't age at all up until around the mid-2000's, then aging hit him like a fucking truck and now he looks like a cross between a hairless cat and a nutsack
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kai winn, whatever happened there
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Kinda funny we got a single female cardassian officer in tng and then not a single one after that in ds9
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>>214942620
She couldn't stand that everyone loved Kai Opaka so much
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>>214942659
>Cardassians sentenced him to only 2 years labor
Out of character for them. Then again, so was Worf when he cut his head off
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>>214942659
I don't believe Morn would associate with this fellow. After all he smuggled info off the station in his mom's birthday present. He was a hero of the Dominion war. Fuck STP
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Do you guys think that O'Brien fucked Keiko in the Rascals episode
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>>214941001
seeing Babu turn up in Trek with a British accent was so weird.
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>>214942722
Seeing George show up on Voyager was insane
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>>214937241
it's about non-interventionism and unintended consequences. classical liberal principles. like how whenever the retarded government intervenes in the economy to "help the poor" or "boost employment" or "make housing affordable" it always leads to market imbalances and the long term unintended consequences may make the situation even worse for the people they tried to help.

So the Prime Directive is not about knowing what exactly can go wrong with the first contact. It's about acknowledging that no matter how good your intentions are, you may still cause catastrophic things by intervening.

Like how UN had a vaccine operation in Congo to vaccinate all the primitive people to "help them" but they reused syringes because they weren't aware of the existence of AIDS yet and as a result HIV spread like wildfire globally, and especially in Africa.
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Imagine the smell



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