Why has X-Files faded from the public consciousness, while Twin Peaks is still remembered as one of the greats?
>>214939729because Carter made a mess of the larger theme he was trying to do
x-files has bad movies and like four bad seasons that soured the good ones. twin peaks only had like four bad subplots
>>214939729X-files is still remembered as one of the greats. I think it's more that Twin Peaks has caught on more with younger generations, and I sort of understand why. If you weren't alive during the 90s a lot of the stuff in the X-files probably doesn't resonate with you.
>>214939729X-Files is inconsistent, but when it's good, it's great. Twin Peaks, on the other hand, is consistently shit.
I do like how the FBI in Twin Peaks was a group of over the top cartoon caricatures, and in the X-Files it is filled with geriatric obstructionist bureaucrats that look like politicians.
>>214939729One was very much a network tv show and the other was to some degree autuer driven.
>>214939729Twin Peaks is much better, for one. Nothing in the X-Files compares to the Twin Peaks pilot (which is basically a David Lynch movie). X-Files appeals to the male sci-fi types, where Twin Peaks appeals a lot more to chicks, who are the big consumers of TV.
Why is one of the most trascendental works of art ever put to film still remembered while a shitty, formulaic disposable piece of "content" faded away? We might never know
>>214940000I am a male that is really into sci-fi, and I prefer Twin Peaks. Sometimes, execution matters more than genre checkboxes.Nice quads btw.
>>214939784that hulu reboot was total ass holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQm6CGwMhVUyou now remember the zombie season
>>214939729X-files worked a lot better when you’d watch an EP every week. It’s not good for binging because the overall plot isn’t worked out well.
>>214940032>Nice quads btw.
>>214940204Same with House
>>214939729there's about 8 files threads each day so i think this premise holds
Twin Peaks is eternal
>>214939729X Files is good when it's mystery and rapport between the 2 protagsWhen it gets explicit with the threats and alien stuff it loses it's luster. Another thing Lynch preached and has since been vindicated on.
>>214939729Why are you comparing two very different shows from different time periods?
>>2149412761990 and 1993 aren't wildly different time periods.
>>214941312they are as different as 1995 and 1996
>>214941312Were you even alive? 1990 was another world from 1993. Just watch the shows. Look at how they dress. Everything changed in a very short time.
>>214941312True I was thinking Twin Peaks was a couple years older than it was. But it's not like they ever were competing TV niches so the OP is still a faggot.
>>214941388>OP is a faggot for pointing out my nostalgia comfort show has no artistic merit
>>214941388>moving the goalposts
>>214941388They are both supernatural investigation tv shows with FBI main characters and a Pacific Northwest feel. They released in close proximity to each other. God forbid I compare them. By your standards, nothing could ever be compared to anything else.
>>214939729It's not as good, too clichéd
>>214941471You're just trying to stir up agitation and discord among board culture. There is nothing substantiative to this comparison. They have completely different tones, different audiences. Etc.
Dual Spires episode of Psych > Northern Exposure > X-Files > Twin Peaks
Actual answer: Twin Peaks is has a dozen different gorgeous women and better writing.
I think people talk about X-files now more than between 2002 and 2016
>>214939729>public consciousnessI can assure you that way more normies know about X-Files than Twin Peaks. I love them both equally so I don't care about pitting one against the other.
>>214939729Twin Peaks had a better revival and Lynch's reputation. It's not like The X-Files is just in the dustbin of history, of though. It's a very successful show that still has an obsessive cult fanbase. There are threads on /tv/ all the time. The X-Files is frankly the better show, and I say that as a Lynch fan. It just comes with more baggage.
>Why has X-Files faded from the public consciousness, while Twin Peaks is still remembered as one of the greats?i don't fully agree but i kind of get what you might mean. i think the dreamlike style which lynch employs in everything he films encourages a sort of ' fill in the blank ' effect from the viewer, which can make a viewing of his work seem more emotionally resonant if you like that sort of thing. if you don't, you typically end up thinking lynch is a hack. x-files was a lot more tangible and, funnily enough, more grounded. while that approach is more appeasing to studio execs and may have a greater appeal to the masses, it is more difficult to pull off and maintain a certain quality thresh hold. the peaks will be stake but the sour notes will too be more profound, the audience may be less forgiving. we see this in how much fans forgive the terrible things in twin peaks, and how fans of x-files are unforgiving of their show's tiniest faults. it's fascinating to think about and i miss talking to my friends about such trivial bullshit
>>214942461>better writingEh.
Twin Peaks has one good season and two shitty ones.
>>2149397841 bad subplot, which was James and the blonde
>>214939851the reason hollywood stops casting older women (the over 40s) is because they all dissapear up their own arses and become terrible people
Twin Peaks is high art and X-Files is a trashy serial
>>214939928only correct answer
>>214943721Huh. Yeah. Twin Peaks was somegow more "out there".
Because Cooper IS the FBI. While Mulder and Scully ARE the FBI.
>>214943404Maybe. The revival seasons really didn't help things, though.
>>214944111>Twin Peaks is high art
>>214939851>Mommywhy are you like this?
>>214939729people dont pretent to like the x-files for social signaling and satasifying their snobism. twin peaks is akin to going to the opera
>>214939729The reason for that is that it isn't true and just some delusion you have anon.
I've never watched X-Files, does it hold up?
>>214944008Which one is which though?S1 is murder mystery comfinessS2 introduces all the lore and has many of the kino moments of the original runAnd The Return is GOAT of all time of TV shows
>>214944388Monster of the week episodes do, the mytharc episodes don't though because long continuous stories in tv has been done much much better since X-Files and it will seem very amateurish
>>214944633I think the mytharc stuff holds up well for the first several seasons. They're some of the strongest episodes of the show, even. It helps that they're somewhat more self-contained than they might seem at first, though that might be frustrating in its own way and part of why it got so big and unwieldy. Still, there's a lot of great shit in there.
>>214944388Yeah, I have watched it last year and really enjoyed it until season 7, it's even shot in very cinematic way without being pretentious about it like modern shows and Scully being forever sceptic is pretty beliveable, because she misses 90 % of clearly supernatural stuff.
>>214939729I watched Twin Peaks recently, and now I am watching The X-Files. That 90s PNW aesthetic is something else. For both of the, the story lines, the characters etc. are great, but there is just a look that is incredible. I am jealous of anyone who got to live in that place and time.
>>214939729I'm gonna be honest, shitty 90s television special effects and inconsistent monster if the week episodes. Far more inconsistent.
>>214943721>we see this in how much fans forgive the terrible things in twin peaks, and how fans of x-files are unforgiving of their show's tiniest faults.That is a good insight. It may be that the Return was a satisfying capstone, which makes the flaws of the OG show easier to forgive. A good ending will make people forgive a lot.
>>214947797>Twin Peaks has a good ending.Le what?
>>214947941I mean high in quality, not that it is necessarily happy or ties up all loose ends.
>>214939851As of this moment, I am re-opening the Sex Files.Agent Scully, I need you to perform a full prostate milkings around the clock.
>>214948108>Uses enormous dick as a propThis is a form of hatred towards normal men.
>>214948140Agent Krychek, the size of your dick is of no interest to the Bureau, nor is it relevant to the execution of your duties. Do you understand?
>>214940000>>214939729To this very day I have not finished Twin Peaks. I love how the series starts, I love Fire Walk with me, I thought it is fucking disturbing and scary like Bob actually scares me but god the series gets so annoying in the end that I always give up on it. The hotel dude playing with his toy soldiers, whiny biker dude goes on a bike cruise and got I forgot what else happens, I even forgot what Dale Cooper is doing in the mean time, I only ever remember biker dude with the whiny face and hotel dude and it just won't stop and drags on for so many episodes that I always give up.
>>214948108what??? WHY? where is this from? why did she do it? WTF?!
Twin Peaks had an incredible comeback while X-Files was cringe redditslop. Twin Peaks was always better and had more genuine artistic value. X-Files is very much a TV show with all of the downsides that entails.
>>214948512It's ok to skip 90% of season 2 and just read a synopsis. The last two episodes are good and essential, though.
>>214948512You are doing yourself a disservice not watching the Return, especially if you like FWWM
>>214947797You're right, though even a lot of TP fans will shit on half of it or more.
>>214939729>Twin Peaks: 48 episodes>X-Files: 218 episodesOne of them tells its story succinctly and doesn't overstay its welcome
>>214944798I agree, the early mytharc is great. It starts to suck when they remove the ambiguity about whether aliens are real or it's some government project. When they bring in the alien bounty hunter, that's just too on the nose, nothing mysterious or spooky any more at that point. I think the show is best when you always feel like you might notice an alien out of the corner of your eye, there might be weird scary things happening just beyond the edge of your awareness. When they shift to trying to tell a straight-forward narrative about colonization, it doesn't really work very well. I guess I should give them credit though for at least trying, instead of keeping everything a mystery box forever.
>>214948108Duchovny is a well-known clinical sex-addictDo you think Anderson is like this, because Duchovny spent the better part of her career GROOMING her, and just forgot to turn off the switch before Duchovny sought help for his addiction?...leaving Anderson as a cock-thristy mommy?
>>214950210No. She was already a turboslut in her personal life well before S1E1.
>>214939729It wasn't good.
>>214948512Your opinion is objectively correct in that season 2 is Twin Peaks murder. Fire Walk and especially Return are great, but that second season is legendary fucking awful.
>>214950210>clinical sex-addictNot an actual disease, it's just a PR strategy for when you get caught cheating.
>>214939729X Files has? Twin Peaks has a cult following and is only two seasons a movie that bombed and a revival. X Files has 9 fucking seasons and two movies and a two season revival. Now they’re doing a sequel series with some negro director which will be ass.
9/11 created a very different style of American Paranoia.
>>214951280Twin Peaks wasn't good, no.
