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you can tell vince has never actually met people like him because they're fucking retarded and would never have hidden "business" skills. jesse is the retarded kid who you showed up once a month in your class.
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>>214964407
if you actually watch the show then you might notice that he is a bit retarded, usually sucks at the business and also wasn't very good student at school
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>>214964407
Jessie's character was more realistic than a teacher in a union not having health insurance
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What hidden business skills? He was basically useless the entire series until he was able to copy Walt's cook, and then he was passed around as a meth slave. He wasn't able to move the meth Walt cooked, which is why they sought out Tuco, then Gus. When he tried being the distributor he got combo killed. He didn't have a heart of gold, either. He had a soft spot for kids, but he willing made and sold meth knowing it destroyed lives. He talked an innocent chick into taking meth when he had no petrol money. Like all the characters in the show, he was a shitty human once you scratch the surface.
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>>214964407
You are a fucking idiot. Jesse in BB was a total retard for the vast majority of the show, he not only consistently thought like a literal child, he messed with things so badly that it ended up with Walt and others in danger. Sure he's good with kids and whatnot but he's also directly responsible for basically putting Walt's family at risk of dying to Gus. There are no innocent criminals in BB, that's the point which Ledditurds don't get, Mike is a hypocrite and a faggot. Only their families and the honest people like Hank or Chuck, even if flawed, are ACTUALLY good people.
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>>214965867
Hank wasnt a good person and neither was chuck.
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>>214965926
>Hank wasn't a good person
He absolutely was. He was the leader of the crackdown on Heisenberg which was responsible, be it directly or indirectly, of basically destroying the New Mexico drug trade entirely. He protected his family and took initiative when others wouldn't. Him beating Jesse up for lying about his wife or joking about Mexicans doesn't make him evil (Ledditurds genuinely believe he is as bad as fucking Walter lmfao)
>neither was Chuck
Was Chuck insecure, petty and envious? Sure. But he was 500% right about Jimmy and Kim, which others like Howard didn't see until it was too late. All of BCS happens because Jimmy feels entitled to a job position at HHM for no other reason than being Chuck's brother. And when he gets a presitigious job offer at Davis and Main, he fucks it up because he can't tolerate working under basic rulesets, then went on to become not just a conman but the direct criminal ally of the Salamancas, the Pollos Hermanos empire and Heisenberg's empire and kept freeing some of the biggest criminals and psychos out there. Plus Saul Gone shows Chuck was perfectly fine with Jimmy changing paths, he just didn't want him at his firm which is fair, and this is what Jimmy secretly regrets more than anything else alongside Howard's death. So yeah Chuck ultimately was a good guy even if he definitely had his issues
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>>214965988
On a spectrum of good to bad, hank wasn't as far on the bad end as other characters, but he was kinda shitty. He constantly disrespects Walt, just straight to his face over and over, for no reason. He's racist all the time, and likes to laugh at and take photos with dead criminals. He's definitely okay with bending the law when it suits him, on multiple occasions. He is on Maree's back about going to therapy, but then hypocritically refuses to get help with his PTSD later and turns into a toxic fuckwit because of it. Not the worst character on the show by a long stretch, but not exactly a good person.
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>>214964407
Walt scouted Jesse for his connections and supposed street smarts. Walt was mistaken and it cost him one plate.
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>He constantly disrespects Walt, just straight to his face over and over, for no reason
This is retarded. We see him call Walt the smartest dude he's known and a total wiz over and over in the show. Yeah sure in the pilot he takes his drink, a bit shitty, but overall Hank fucking loves Walt and Walt in turn loves Hank, which is why the betrayal and Hank's death affect each other so much. Walt does have a few moments where he feels slighted but those are usually a showcase of his moral downfall like when he forces Jr. to drink way more than he should out of spite for Hank being a respected figure under Jr.'s eyes
>He's racist all the time
MUH RACIIISM
Hank isn't racist, his best fucking pal is a Mexican dude and his entire department is half Mexican. He makes jokes about them, that doesn't mean jack shit, we never see him actually discriminate
>likes to laugh at and take photos with dead criminals
Early on in the series. Tbf they're scum but he does improve and stops treating death so nonchalantly
>He's definitely okay with bending the law when it suits him, on multiple occasions
Sure but at the same time we're talking about a show where everyone breaks the law. Hank shouldn't break it but he doesn't do it for malicious or criminal reasons which makes him one of the better guys there. Plus he's usually on the right track every time he does bend the law a bit like when he tries to get into the RV
>He is on Maree's back about going to therapy, but then hypocritically refuses to get help with his PTSD later
PTSD is like that man. It isn't easy to deal with. This isn't a personal issue, it's genuine trauma which you can't blame him for. He's quite shitty to Marie during his stay at the hospital but he gets way better after, it was just him learning to cope with everything that happened from the El Paso incident to taking out the Twins
Overall Hank is pretty high in the entire show, he isn't flawless because nobody except Holly is
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>>214966298
Defend this
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>>214965867
>>214965988
nah chuck was a absolute shitbag, Hank was the most realistic
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>>214966298
> hank isn't a shitty person
> sure, he does a whole bunch of shitty things, but if you selectively ignore them he is a good guy

k
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>>214966348
No need, this is based
>>214966374
>chuck was an absolute shitbag
Jimmyfag detected. Nothing Chuck ever did came even close to being as hurtful as a single one of Jimmy lesser schemes like the billboard stunt, let alone him genuinely fucking helping Lalo escape and then teaming up with Heisenberg
>>214966379
Every single person in Breaking Bad does shitty things except Holly, Drew Sharp, the crack kid, Brock and maybe Andrea. The difference is the "shitty" things Hank does are comparatively normal when seen besides the rest of the cast
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>>214964529
The most unrealistic thing was a guy with a Master's degree in chemistry and former business owner working a shitty job as a chemistry teacher instead of working as a specialist/researcher in the chemical industry.



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