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>>214968911wrong board, pedro
>>214968911You have to take into account everything that Frieza saw Goku and co do. Without it there is no Golden Frieza since Frieza had no reason not to coast or sulk. Also; Blue Vegeta solos Gold Frieza near instantly, it's Black Frieza that's on par with Blue.
>>214968911>>>/a/ you faggot
>>214968911No one gives a fuck about powerlevel asspulls shit.
>>214969241I'm glad I stopped watching this shit at the age of 12
>>214969241>it's Black Friezafrieza is not black wtf
>>214969241Black is stronger than UI and UE you fucking gringo.
>>214968911He's just built different
I can die happy knowing that i only watching the original dragonball up to the DBZ Majin buu arc.
>>214969426Same
>>214968911i dont think golden frieza was around when i was a kid. i dont remember him.
>>214969473Funny that 8 year olds at the time of the movie's release can now post on this site
>>214968911dragon boll havent made any sense since Z, and that was>hold on to your buttcheecks36-30 FOKEN YEARS AGO.Is dragon ball the biggest fraud of all times, just coasting on the success of Dragon Ball Z?Everything since Z is not canon.
>>214968911Frieza's species are just naturally powerful, and Frieza the most powerful of his kind. Guy was already strong enough to effortlessly wipe out planets, genocide the Saiyans and fight almost on par with Super Saiyan Goku without ever training. So it's not really surprising that he could get to Goku's new level with minimal training. Frieza is just the boss, deal with it, monkey.
>>214968911Freeza had never worked out a day in his life. He's just built different.
>>214968911Toriyama stopped giving a shit after BOG, super and daima are non canon as far as I'm concerned.
>>214970015didnt he evolved into golden frisbee just by being a cocoon on a tree for a while? and it wasnt even voluntarly, he was just prisoned/contained or something. dunno Im not following dragon ball lgbtq that much
>>214970054>Toriyama stopped giving a shit after BOGthen why did he gave a shit after BOG?
>>214969241All you have to account for is the fact goku gets pissed at him for being such a shitty fighter due to the fact he’s lazy and coasted off his raw superiority.
>>214970071His cocooning had nothing to do with his power boosts, he was chained up in hell because he was so unruly, it was just explaining why his soul hadn't reincarnated after all those years
Personally I think Toriyama just collects big paychecks and does the absolute bare minimum writing that stuff, intentionally slipping in disgusting bs as an insult towards his fanbase.What are his other works? Nobody knows and I fucking bet he blames the audience for having a poor taste, not liking his other works.
>>214968911is friezer black-coded?
>>214968911Dragonball spinoffs are all trash especially super
>>214970891Anon... You might want to sit down for this...
Why do Latinx love this show so much?
>>214971140what??
>>214970891>What (were) his other works?this dude never read dr slump lmao
>>214971160high test, you wouldn't get it timmy
>>214971160probably because it got regular spanish translations
>>214971195>dr slumpfucking what?whatever that is Im pretty sure not knowing about it means you are healthy.
>>214971086Super gave us the cutest murderelf so it is automatically good.
>>214971056yes
Nothing after Z exists
>>214969241>get angry that you lose every time you fight against these assholes>you aren't a saiyan that get super boosts every time you lose>you somehow increase your powerlevel so fucking much with no actual training shownIs Frieza a mary sue?
>>214971869GT existshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGl183v41Zc
>>214969241>Golden Frieza>Black Friezathere is a new frieza? called black frieza? oh boy
>>214971996...as an example of shit.
>>214968911Go back to /a/
>>214969241Frieza had to be told Goku's exploits when he came back, he had to be told he defeated Majn Buu.
same thing happened with master roshi. he just trained for a bit and now he's just as strong as goku.
>>214970015He trained with King Cold
>>214968911>Red Goku is so strong he must be able to destroy entire galaxies>gets killed by a gunBeyond retarded show
>>214969241>Blue Vegeta solos Gold FriezaAnd then Frieza kills him.
>>214968911>>214969241FIRST of all. Dragon Ball Super is not canon.SECOND of all, the reason they did this is so that Goku could fight frieza again, they didn’t care if it was ridiculous, they wanted an established character returning so they could extend the series and sell tickets. And it worked.
>>214971195Nobody gives a fuck about Dr. Slump desu
>>214972848list what is canon.
>>214973784Dragon Ball (manga)? Canon.Dragon Ball (anime)? Canon.Dragon Ball Z? Canon.Dragon Ball Z Kai? Canon.Dragon Ball Super (anime)? Canon.Dragon Ball Daima? Canon.OG Dragon Ball movies? Canon.Dragon Ball Z movies? Canon.Bardock special? Canon.Trunks special? Canon.Dragon Ball GT.Dragon Ball Super movies? Canon.Dragon Ball Heroes? Canon.Plan to eradicate the Saiyans? Canon.Dragon Ball Xenoverse? Canon.Dragon Ball Online? Canon.Dragon Ball Minus? Canon.Jaco the Galactic Patrolman? Canon.Nekomajin? Canon.Sandland? Canon.Dragon Ball SD? Canon.Lady Red? Canon.KochiKame? Canon.Oh Super Gadget Lovers? Canon.Wet dream about Zamasu I had last night? Canon.Dragon Ball Legends? Canon.Dragon Ball Breakers? Canon.Dokkan Battle? Canon.
>>214973842>Dragon Ball GT.wait....
>>214973842>Dragon Ball (manga)? Canon.>Dragon Ball (anime)? Canon.>Dragon Ball Z? Canon.>Dragon Ball Z Kai? Canon.>Dragon Ball Super (anime)? Canon.>Dragon Ball Daima? Canon.>OG Dragon Ball movies? Canon.>Dragon Ball Z movies? Canon.>Bardock special? Canon.>Trunks special? Canon.>Dragon Ball GT? Canon.>Dragon Ball Super movies? Canon.>Dragon Ball Heroes? Canon.>Plan to eradicate the Saiyans? Canon.>Dragon Ball Xenoverse? Canon.>Dragon Ball Online? Canon.>Dragon Ball Minus? Canon.>Jaco the Galactic Patrolman? Canon.>Nekomajin? Canon.>Sandland? Canon.>Dragon Ball SD? Canon.>Lady Red? Canon.>KochiKame? Canon.>Oh Super Gadget Lovers? Canon.>Wet dream about Zamasu I had last night? Canon.>Dragon Ball Legends? Canon.>Dragon Ball Breakers? Canon.>Dokkan Battle? Canon.nice list bro I fixed the typo.
To be fair Freiza was always OP
>>214968911Super Not Cannon
I had divine revelation.Since GT everything sucked, therefore GT is good now and part of canon. Alternate reality, marvel shit or whatever.The point is I rewatched GT and its fucking hella decent, even good and that cant be said about super.
>>214973988you fags all the same
>>214968911DB powerlevels make sense by simply assuming Frieza lied when he said he became stronger as a cyborg, most likely he meant stronger because his dad was with him. You also have to keep in mind Frieza actually became weaker when he went for full power at Namek because he couldn't control it, making him basically Ginyu tier.Frieza 50%: 1mGoku SSJ1: 1.2mVegeta SSJ1: 800k maybeCell 1: around 1.1mCell 2: around 1.5mCell Perfect: 2mGohan SSJ2: 2.5mBuu: 3mGoku SSJ3: 3mNow Beerus describe SSJ3 as a huge waste of energy and a dead end for Goku, if we can assume God as a next step then that would be around the 4m just like what Golden Freeza would have of powerlevel.
I really enjoy watching people argue about canon.I'm a fan from WAY back, and never really found it too complicated. It's like older fans of anime were just built different. It was harder to get into anime outside of Toonami, so had to put more effort into it. Couldn't just find a youtube iceberg tier list for lore. It wasn't difficult, but it did gatekeep a lot of dumb people, even if anime itself is pretty stupid. There really was no debate about 'canon' back then. It was understood the anime and manga were different, and that while Goku driving cars was fun, it wasn't something that the manga (or later anime) would ever mention again. No attempt to reconcile it or create a singular canon. It was just filler, and nothing more. I have no idea how modern Naruto fans are going to try to reconcile those 4 years of fillers at the end of the original series lol
>Why does the anime original movie not make senseGee I wonder why