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Stop, my deadly warriors.
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>If you defeat the Muslims they win

No wonder the Christcucks could never take back the "holy land"
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>>214988826
> farts
> lets out a soft chuckle
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>>214988839
meanwhile the mudslimes are inbred, murderous trigger-happy little idiots. And Christians built the modern world.
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>>214988873
And now the holy land is controlled by jews who spit on Christians for fun

total christcuck defeat
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>>214988839
>No wonder the Christcucks could never take back the "holy land"
that spread of islam happened due to teh plague of Justinian (effecting both Byzantines and Persians) and wars that devastated both the Byzantines and the Persians of that era (between each other and others).

If it was not for those 2 factors (too many plagues and too many wars) islam would have remained in arabia and would be unable to exit even for a single step. It would have been destroyed by either Persians or Byzantines the very first time they raided outside of their desert.

The first muslim armies went up against an utterly crippled persia and Byzantium. The two empires could not recover adequately from the plagues and wars. It would require centuries of peace which never happened.
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>>214988873
Calm down
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>>214988826
Isnt that also what saldin did (amd is most known for)
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>>214988839
>Christcucks
the zoroastriancucks lost about 100 times worst since persia was eaten up very by islam.

being christians was not the problem, Zoroastrians did not fare better or similarly. They fared much much worse.
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>>214989055
Saladin never managed to defeat Balwin IV in a pitched battle. Baldwin won almost all battles, skirmishes and military operations of all kinds.
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>>214989055
Saladin did not defeat Baldwin IV, he defeated Guy de Lusignan which took the crown after the successor Baldwin has chosen "suddenly and mysteriously died" aka was poisoned by Guy most likely.
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>>214989056
>>214989032
And that happened 1400 years ago. Almost a millennia and a half and Christcucks STILL haven't got back the holy land.
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>>214988826
Major engagements:

Battle of Montgisard (1177): Baldwin IV, despite being heavily outnumbered, decisively defeated Saladin near Ramla. This was Baldwin’s most famous victory.

Battle of Belvoir Castle (1182): Baldwin again confronted Saladin and forced him to withdraw after inconclusive fighting. Baldwin’s forces held the field.

Battle of al-Fule (1183): Baldwin led the Frankish army in a standoff with Saladin near Beit She’an; Saladin avoided a pitched battle and retreated when supply problems arose.

Siege of Kerak (1183, 1184): Baldwin relieved Kerak twice when Saladin attempted to capture it. Both times Saladin withdrew.

Baldwin never suffered a clear battlefield defeat at Saladin’s hands.

After Baldwin’s death (1185, effective 1183 as regent), things changed:

His successors (his nephew Baldwin V died, and then Guy of Lusignan too power) were not as militarily competent (one and child and Guy was utterly useless), and Saladin went on to win his most famous victory at the Battle of Hattin (1187), leading to the fall of Jerusalem. Guy was to blame for everything.

Saladin never defeated Baldwin IV in a pitched battle, and Baldwin either won or forced Saladin to retreat in every major confrontation.
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>>214989075
I mean he also said
>stop my deadly warriors
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>>214989137
They did not care about the holy land or about anything else than their petty kingdoms or not so petty but still not as great and even later on the British Empire cared only about money, power and geopolitics.

They were trash then, British Empire, and trash now, USA as the British Empire v2, and Europe is still hypnotized and captured by a drunkenness that will take brute force to shake off.
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>>214988826
>Stop, my deadly warriors.
he had asked help from European kings and nobody actually wanted to do anything essential. And the Byzantines were in disarray by that point.
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>>214988839
>missing meme jews play both sides against each other
apage demon
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>>214989172
Just sounds like excuses, the fact is Christians never got together to take back and hold the Holy Land, end of story.
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>>214989241
>Just sounds like excuses, the fact is Christians never got together to take back and hold the Holy Land, end of story
these are not excuses, these are the facts of why they have failed to do so.

They are not excused.
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>>214989055
>t saldin
The only thing Saladin managed to do against Baldwin was attack his camp. Not a pitched battle.

Battle of Marj Ayyun (1179)

The Battle of Marj Ayyun (1179) was not a set-piece, “pitched” battle where both armies deliberately lined up to fight (like Montgisard). Instead:
Baldwin IV had joined with the Templars and camped near Marj Ayyun after a successful raid into Muslim-held territory. Saladin moved quickly and caught them while encamped and resting, not in full battle order. The Franks, surprised, were beaten; Baldwin himself was injured but managed to escape. The Templars suffered especially badly, with many captured or killed.

This was an ambush on a disorganized camp and not a pitched battle.

Saladin was 100% unable to defeat Baldwin on the field. Which at this point was almost a paraplegic.

And he knew it.
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>>214989241
>Just sounds like excuses, the fact is Christians never got together to take back and hold the Holy Land, end of story.
if you think if the religion was that of the Olympian Gods or the Norse Gods or something like that things would be better you are sorely mistaken and utterly deluded.
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>>214988839
Christians have owned the Holy Land via proxy since 1948.
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>>214988826
Final Balance
Pitched battles: Baldwin undefeated. Saladin lost all pitched battles.
Raids/skirmishes: One setback (Marj Ayyun) where the encamped army was attacked, otherwise Baldwin holds his own. Saladin lost all skirmishes.
Sieges: Saladin successful only when Baldwin was absent (Jacob’s Ford). Saladin failed in all other sieges.

Conclusion: Baldwin IV personally outmaneuvered and defeated Saladin throughout his reign. Saladin only succeeded when Baldwin was absent (and that only once), incapacitated, or caught off-guard (only once again) - never in a pitched battle under Baldwin’s direct command.
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>>214989241
>Just sounds like excuses
mentioning facts are not excuses. This is why it happned. The worthless abomination called the British Empire, the pile of Vomit called USA and the sleepwalker called Europe.
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>>214989241
>Christians never got together
because they are worthless retards.

A leper boy-king held the kingdom while he lived and the "great" Saladin the camel jockey was running away in racing camels.

If Christians properly united they would have freed north Africa,the middle east and all territories from Islam (and move much further into the conquest whatever else was required). But they were too egoistic and moronic.

Islam would have vanished then.
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>>214988826
You bow to no one.
*starts singing in arabic*
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>>214989241
You touched a nerve
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>>214989367
Lol
You mad
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>>214989767
not really, just bored and mentioning the facts
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>>214988826
I had high expectations. It turns out it's just Christians bad, Muslims good film. Also Guy and Reynald are too obsessed with killing the muslim caravans. Makes no fucking sense strategically to attack civilians.
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>>214988873
greeks and romans built the very foundation the west stands on you revisionist christcuck. you're probably a protestantfag too
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>>214989820
raynald really did attack caravans in real life. he was just a retard who thought his farts didn't smell

he really did ignore the trust between jerusalem and saladin and refused to compensate for the caravan attacks. and just like the movie saladin crushed his army and beheaded him kek
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>>214989284
I've been to Sinai and Jerusalem, how the fuck were kingdom of Jerusalem knights able to wear chainmail and plate armor in battles without dying of heat stroke?
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>>214989820
Orlando Bloom, Baldwin IV and Liam Neison are Christians shown as noble and good. Only the religious fanatic Templars are shown as le bad Christians. Saladin himself is shown to be a moderate who uses religious fanaticism in his own army to achieve his goals. The point of the story is moderation (Baldin, Saladin, Orlando) is le good, religious extremism le bad.
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>>214988839
Muslims defeated themselves anyway. It's not like you'd live in a Muslim country, aside from Saudi Arabia but those are just jews according to muzzies themselves. The so called holy hand has been cursed for most of its existence and is not worth fighting over.
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>>214989896
>greeks and romans built computers and atom bombs
>>214988899
Holy people not land, and modern Jews aren't biblical Jews.
>>214989137
>>214989172
>>214989241
Meanwhile Abdul is fucking goats
>muh holy land!!1!
White people disliked your rabbit-like population so much they opted to build paradise in a tundra instead.
>>214989332
this
>>214990405
There is nothing to defeat when muslims are considered. They are empty husks of meat, support system for tiny dicks and balls..
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>>214989294
It's racial. It also has been and always will be. The Crusaders thought it was about religion, and that's why they lost. It's why they never truly teamed up, and the continuation of white people's belief that there's anything more is why Europe is lost. Europeans en masse will never wake up to this fact. They didn't even see it when Spain was literally conquered by browns, there's no chance of them seeing it now.
It's over.
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>>214988826
If they pulled that mask off would he have died?
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>>214988873
The modern world is horrible
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>>214988826
Watched this movie the other day.
Anons here called it "catholikino" but it's just an atheist/gnostic power fantasy.
It depicts all successful and level headed people of the time as barely religious while everyone who cares about their faith is evil, cowardly, deceptive or bloodthirsty.
For example the literal king of Jerusalem refusing confession before his death and Saladin not really caring about Islam while their subordinates on both sides want war all the time.
Gayest thing of all was the protagonist going on pilgrimage because he killed his brother and because he feels bad about his wife who committed suicide but after praying once he concludes that God doesn't exist because "He does not speak to me" and immediately forgets the guilt he's gone all the way to Jerusalem for.
It's weird, all that drawn out intro is meaningless to the rest of the movie until the very end.
Also he's a wanted man at that point but in the end but he resumes his blacksmith work? Surely he has a bounty on his head after killing his brother and partaking in the killing of his lord's nephew and armed men?
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>>214992383
its unironically a shitty liberal flick, it recently got a resurgence because zoomers saw epic tiktok edits of baldwin and they think its a based trvd cathvlic movie even though its revisionist and has a milquetoast message about religious extremism bad, tolerance good, crusades bad.

i think in the past /tv/ considered this movie a failure and hated the second half of it.
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>>214992175
He would have found himself in extreme pain
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>>214992619
I see, I got baited.

Another aspect I didn't like was that the protagonist is better at everything than everyone else all the time. I don't know what a male mary sue is called but he's basically that.
I can forgive his luck during battles because the knight hospitaller character is shows to be somewhat of a guardian angel so divine providence is implied, but the rest was eye-roll worthy.
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I watch for she
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>>214988826
When are we going to get a kino of Mongols massacring Muslims from Khwarazm until the borders of Egypt?
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>>214989032
Also they were extremely lucky by having an one-in-a-million general, Khalib Ibn Al Walid, any other guy would have fucked up but he was an SSS pull in a medieval gacha game
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>>214988839
>>214989137
You have outed yourself as an Indian btw. Yes, we can tell. Your insults mean nothing to me (and most others I would bet)
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>>214988839
The "holy land" deserves a nuke from orbit. Nothing good has ever come out of that place.
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>>214989142
Only 24 years of life
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>>214989142
>>214995609
Are there any cool documentaries on the guy?
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>>214995641
Nah, he was uninteresting.



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