It's just a plain dumbed down knock off of Neuromancer. I can't believe it's been shilled that much. Highly disappointed.
yeah i didn't get the hype either
>>215020540Innocence and Patlabor 1/2 better
>>215020552It's probably due to the exotic japanese animation aesthetic shock. But when you're used to japanese animation and look in depth, you find nothing original.
>>215020540love watching it in my cottage at summer nights
it's blade runner, it's the matrix and it's ghost in the shell. gots being the most wistful and meditative of the three
>>215020649will look that up
>>215020540I don't know who shilled the original GitS film to you as something with a good story. It's purely animation that carries it.>>215020649If OP didn't like the original, he 100% won't like Innocence. That movie is twice as pretentious with an even worse story. Animation is slightly improved.The two Patlabor movies are more palatable.Really, Mamoru Oshii just likes sniffing his own farts. No wonder he linked up with Hideo Kojima.
>>215020749that anon has no fucking clue what hes talking about. if you dislike gits 1 you will HATE innocence, everything you hate is 10x worse. gits have a couple scenes of 2 minutes of philosophy talk now and then, innocence has such scenes but of just rambling and namedroping philosophers for 10 fucking minutes each.makoto just appears the last 20 minutes also, wich greatly disapointed me
>>215020822>>215020829hey OP i just thought you might enjoy the sequel more since it's more thematically rich and definitely not dumbed down, though it can feel a little pretentious if you get bored easily like this anon :) so you might want to listen to him, definitely check out the Patlabor films especially 2, they're great
>>215020822the animation is not improved in innocence. the characters have a sickly white skin and generaly look offputing, the world is extremely sparse with boring scenery, easily seen when comparing the inermissions from each movie, gits loks amazing, innocence generaly looks diseased
>>215020540You are looking at it wrong. The transhumanist plot is just for show. Read the Bible passage that's quoted and the name of the chapter. Understanding angel's egg also helps.
>>215020919>the characters have a sickly white skin and generaly look offputing>the world is extremely sparse with boring scenery>innocence generaly looks diseasedanon is there any chance these are intentional choices
>>215020829yeah, the pseudo philosophical monologues about memory, consciousness and identity were really not subtleI might not be the target audienceIt probably can be more interesting for a younger public
>>215020540You havent read Neuromancer. Both have different themes. Kys OP
>>215020987im not gona look at something ugly, not happening, nada
>>215021022the story of an AI that manipulates humans in order to be set free?yeah nothing in common
>>215021132gits theme is that makoto isnt sure shes real but still values her identity
>>215021132Haven't read Neuromancer but GitS is more than muh AI and transhumanism>>215020974
>>215021154>GitS is more than muh AI and transhumanismcare to explain? what is it about then?
>>215021132The AI doesn't want to be set free. It wants to breed with Motoko and create a new being. It has that drive to reproduce too.
>>215021148yeah, the theme is not exactly the same but the plot sure is very similar
>>215021175Well, I can. Or you could just do what I said in my other post and find out for yourself.
>>215021234it's also part of neuromancer, the ai conspires to be reunited with an other ai that's used as a vector it uses to be released "into the wild" (the cyberspace)questionning if the product of human activity can become a form of life...
>>215021132>the story of an AI that manipulates humans in order to be set free?Thats a plot device. Space odyssey also features a rogue AI that manipulates humans and wants to save its self.GitS is mostly about human identity or soul that gets lost in technological advancements, and Neuromancer mostly tries to paint a noir sci fi adult world filled with degenerate technology and people. It has a god-simulation ending, but Neuromancer never tries to be deep. Its literally akin to that Cyberpunk game(but more toned down), in terms of presentation
I'm not a weeb and I thought the animation was extremely good, movie was pretty dull. I'm more of an Angel Cop guy
Every critically acclaimed anime is "just a plain dumbed down knock off of [Western thing]"
>>215021622How does this apply to GitS?
>>215021274No it’s not. The things they happen in the two are completely different retard.
Like every Oshii film based on something else, it's a joyless, soulless bastarisation of the source material with all the comedy excised and the art style replaced with that horrible Oshii grey look. Read the manga. Kusanagi is funny as fuck in it quite often.
>>215021896I swear you weebs are some of the lowest iq niggers around. I like the manga btw.
>>215021397It's about people becoming robots while robots start becoming more like living creatures, culminating in the robots inventing sex so they can evolve out of their restrictions.Why do you think all the robots in this fucking series look like spiders?
>>215020540It's much much better than neuromancer. More nuanced and textured.
Yet another case of S&E, despite being old guys from decades ago, still understanding anime better than zoomers. https://youtu.be/Il2l3hEEtdk
I don't understand why Section 6 didn't kill Batou too after killing Motoko.
>>215020749Patlabor 1 and 2 are kind of weird without the show. I guess they're also kind of weird with the show because most of the characters(if not all) are much more subdued
>>215020540It's more similar to Species than Neuromancer.
>>215022339>I liked the majors titsTranslated that for you.
What an amazing movieLook at it
