kek
My favorite is Godzilla (2014)
>>215030730HDR is a joke
First two seasons of Ozark
>>215030780Why exactly is HDR a thing? Everything just looks 5-7 stops underexposed and the black are crushed.What is this calibrated for?
>>215030780It's digital photography that's causing it. HDR is not the problem. If you watch an older movie that was shot with celluloid film and has been restored with HDR added to it, it normally looks great.
>>215030730bro discovered why they turn off the lights in a theater
>>215030826people were generally more competent at technical stuff in days of yore
>Not having opaque curtains in your kino room
>>215030780It genuinely is. It's the modern 3D for selling TVs and anyone who argues otherwise is lying to themselves.t. 20 years post-production (editing)
>>215030830>gf: why is this movie so dark?>me: yeah, but it might help if we turn the light off in the room. It'll make the movie a bit more viewable>gf: we shouldn't have to do that and I hate sitting in the dark, no, we're keeping the light on>twenty minutes later>gf: shall we just turn up the brightness on the TV?>me: autistically responds with a blunt "NO", and I almost start sweating at the idea of messing up the TV's picture calibration, something I spent hours perfecting when I bought the thing
>>215030924See>>215030826Also, HDR is a great addition for video games.
>>215030982>gf: Why don't you ever take me anywhere?>me: Shut up! You're a goddamn pillow!>my mom: Keep it down in there.>me: Now see what you made me do!
>>215030730
>>215030826You're a retard, HDR remasters are just as shit.
>>215031313
it's lighting. nobody in hollywood knows how to light scenes any more and when they try to do it using LED/fluorescent lights it looks so bad.
>>215030982>I know you can't see anything but actually my picture is perfectly calibrated
>>215031415TV calibration can't account for the artistic choices of all movie makers, that's impossible.
>>215031317They're normally very good, with a few bad exceptions.
>>215031513You spelled autistic wrong.
>>215031415
Even The Naked Gun was so fucking dark, did anyone watch it and notice that?
>>215030826>It's digital photography that's causing it.No it's not. It's the modern obsession with diegetic lighting and refusing to ever compromise on the "realism" for artistic or practical scene readability purposes. You could shoot all this slop on Eastman 5247 and it would look even worse due to the lack of low light performance. You'd have to break out Kubrick's softass smeary sub 1.0 aperture lenses to get any of that film remotely exposed with the way productions like to light stuff these days.
>>215031584So the filters and they use these days on digital cameras (not to mention the after effects they apply to the footage) don't make a difference? The photography is also a huge factor, it just is.
>>215030730>Can't see shit in modern movies>Can't hear shit in modern movies
>>215031579>>215031704It's your fault for watching modern movies.
>>215031747The 80s were 40 years ago
>>215031676They make a difference but not one that matters for the complaints being made right now. As I said, you could shoot all this shit on film and it wouldn't magically make it look better, on the contrary because of exposure latitude limitations it would be even darker and more underexposed. Exposure is relative at the end of the day. The problem is filmmakers are choosing to shoot darker flatter underexposed images, so it doesn't really matter what the capture medium is, it's always going to end up looking like muddy shit because that's the intended look.
bravo db and dabbid
>>215031747I just wanted to take the GF out for a movie so she'd stop bugging me for a few hours
>>215031548heh
>>215031704I'd unironically rather hear an overdub (like TGTBTU) of a film than listen to the inaudible audio ngl
>>215031548>>215031415fucking kek.
>>215030780Shouldn't HDR actually make the scene brighter? All it does is make non dark things brighter compared to the dark parts
>visit pirate forum>omg you AI UPSCALED this moooovie. THANK YOU SO MUCH THIS LOOKS GREAT THANNNK YOUUU>I'm curious>download it>watch it>looks like a bunch of shitty wax figurines, faces morphing around and shitwhat the fuck. are people blind?
>>215031786Mmm I disagree.I think they shoot it clear and well lit then to make it "HDR" they simply up dim it to a level where it's "atmospheric" aka dark as shit.This, like the color grading, is a choice and usually done in post, not "in the camera" so to speak.And just like color grading it has a creep factor to it since all these amazing brilliant color grading people that they keep hiring need to warrant their pay so they play up what they're doing to obscene levels.Essentially you don't want the producer to go "why are we paying these people" so their work has to be seen and noticable.None of this bullshit started overnight, it has been steadily creeping in because they fuck with footage more and more in post since every motherfucker in the pipeline thinks they're an artist.
>>215031832indians
I watched this yesterday. Decent movie and probably would've had some cool or spooky scenes, if I could FUCKING SEE ANYTHING... the whole fucking ending fight in the house in the last 10 or so minutes was fucking pointless to me, cos I couldn't see shit
>>215031880as someone who almost always chooses the poverty option of >5 gigabytesDoes watching the full sized uncompressed video stream help at all with this particular issue?
>>215031832same with clips on youtube which are "upgraded" to 60 fps. Looks like dogshit
>>215031880download mpv and press 6 on your keyboard
>>215031880Reminds me of Hereditary. Remember reading reviews of it back in the day when it was the hot shit and some people were swearing that few of the scenes were like the spooking shit they've ever seen, while some literally had no idea what the fuck are they talking about, cos they quite literally didn't see anything. There are a few of those scenes in that flick, if it wasn't for sound cues, people wouldn't even know that something was happening...I get it that its a horror and dark=scary, but making your spooks literally unnoticeable is the opposite of scary... and its not only horror nowadays, every fucking movie with a night scene looks like that
>>215031831No, photographic HDR isn't the same as TV/film/videogame HDR. You're thinking about photographic HDR where the file made from an exposure on a sensor that has 2x the latitude of a monitor has the shadows and highlights that otherwise would go off the display scale compressed toward the midtones so all the detail in the shadows and highlights is rendered. The HDR this is talking about is where individual pixels on a display can change not only their colors, but their brightnesses separately from eachother rather than having a single set of bulbs blasting at max brightness behind a mask bleeding all over the place and raising the minimum brightness floor significantly if you want the whites to be super bright. Modern movie HDR just means you can have a spotlight in one part of the frame displaying at maximum brightness and the rest of the frame dark as night and there will be no bleed or haloing. But that's not usually how HDR is utilized. It's mostly utilized to allow for crazy low light output levels for nighttime scenes which end up being completely impossible to see because most people watch movies in rooms with tons of ambient light.
>>215031935>full sized uncompressed video streamEven streams these days suck and they're probably even worse because they have low bitrates even for the "4k" versions of movies. Even the higher poverty tier option (8-10GBS) would probably blow a streaming version out of the water but you'd still have the same issue of the movie being very dark, but to be fair, it's a horror movie.
>>215031994He means the video stream coming from the proprietary file container used on blurays. Not like freemovies.ru streams.
Remember when the guy revealed himself as the traitor in DUNC?
>>215031935I downloaded the1080p version of this which was smaller than 2 gigs and saw everything just fine on my tv. That other anon either has a shitty screen or can't set it up properly
A dimly-lit scene from some old Italian kino8-bit color, blu-ray remuxYou can tell it's dark outside, yet you can still see everything clear as day
>>215031548>>215030982Is this actually a thing people get weird about? I have 5 settings i switch between whenever needed. I just assumed this was normal. only thing I can think of is longevity, but tv's are cheap in the first world
>>215032147Yeah I know. I have a pretty budget screen and it has a bunch of presets and also let's you save 3 of your own custom settings.
>>215031979Nsfw on a blue board but you can barely fucking see it. proves your point kek
bow down to the OG, the original,
>>215030730oh look another cropped social media cap. do you have a single thought of your own or is your entire life sharing some other random post
>>215032358Enraging
>>215032327This is it, first time I remember watching a movie and thinking, what the fuck is happening
>>215030780HDR isn't the problem, cinematography is just a dead art.
>>215031940This so much. Someone did that to Day of the Dead and got my hopes up. I had to turn it off after the first scene. At least they finally found a real print that they legally can touch.
>>215032327Haha I couldn't see shit in that. Is that where it all started? I don't remember anything at all from it.
>>215030813>leaves TV and all devices and software on default setup>hurrr why does this look and sound like shit?
>>215031806Just take your pills and the pillow will stop talking
SD quality and crystal clear night scene, subjects fully lit
>>215031026Btch please, there's like one proper HDR game in existence. Ask other games simply make the whole screen brighter when enabling it. It's as much a bullshit tech line the 4k maymay.
>>215032512How come the same TV has no problem with movies and tv shows made before let's say ...2015?How come no special calibration is needed for that?
>>215031832If they aren't tarded and trying to upscale 360p to 4k instead of something reasonable like 480p to 1080p it's usually fine. Works better for tv shows where there's usually not too much going on in the background. That's the only time I ever see the warped face shit.
>>215030730>Reflective screenAbsolute pleb
Watched The Asphalt Jungle yesterday and really appreciated how well lit the night scenes are>inb4 it's a sound stage
>>215031757We eventually go "that's enough of this kind of book" or "that's enough of this clothing item" or saying, but we do not say "we have had enough movies". I would rather live in a world where it were possible to watch most of the good movies that exist, not have everything good be drowned out by fountainous excretions
>>215031979yeah when I first watched Hereditary in 1080p, I thought it was scary as hellthen I got a 4k tv, downloaded the movie in HDR, and couldn't see shit.
>>215030730people who watch movies in a bright room drive me mad
>>215031992english doc
>>215032588Nta, but what is your opinion on upscaling 720p to 4K? Is it doable?
>>215030730You know how studios used to regrade films for the VHS release so they would look good on tube TVs? Well now they do the opposite and fucking them intentionally so your kino viewing become one big humiliation ritual unless you can afford a top of the line setup with studio grade black levels.
>>215032640If you can't figure out TV settings you don't deserve a phone, anon.
>>215032458>>215032506I heard that they made the movie so dark because the pred and alien costumes didn't fit well and also looked cheap. to hide them. don't know if it's true. but I don't remember dark movies before it
>>215032663>unless you can afford a $200 4k tv at walmartftfy
>>215032323fucking Solo was one of the worst movie watching experiences I've ever had, it was so dark
>not watching your kinos exclusively on an OLED HDR monitor in a dark room
>>215032687There were like two scenes that didn't take place in at least indirect sunlight.
>>215032653Whats even the point? Your TV natively scales everything up to resolution that your TV has, and does so without trying to invent shit that ain't there.
>>215032663These films look like ass in theaters, anon. Unless you plan to show film from at least 25-30 years ago, it'll always be ill-defined blobs.Sometimes it's the opposite. People said they couldn't see things in "Solo: A SW Story" in theaters and proved it with screencaps, but then Disney fixed it for the home version.
>>215032703I found ultra rare footage that is in 720p quality from the original Star Wars and it was in the film, so I need it to be 4K.
>>215032715Yeah we get it this is your third post ITT you think the bright sunshine daylight cowboy heist movie is too le dark because it had a le dark scene
>>215032715I have experienced movies looking bad in theatres too but I wonder how much of that is poor projection. I don't think they have anyone on site who keeps them calibrated, even the big chains.
>>215031110
>>215032734Then I guess you'll have to trial and error a bunch of upscale settings till you get something that looks like 2 pounds of dogshit instead of 5 pounds of dogshit. AI upscale can probably at least manage that much if you're good at it and not just trusting in some blindfire presets.
>>215032734>be me>find gold>you run down the valley to stop me>"WAAAIIIT!!">"WAAAAAAIIIT!">"YOU HAVE TO COVER IT WITH SHIT AND RETARDED LOOKING FAKE GOLD BEFORE SHOWING ANYONE"
>>215032758^low quality post>>215032765You're correct, it's all automatic. I know because a sweet theater manager told me. She said that they can do it manually, but it's hard.
I don’t really understand the point of it. The only thing I’ve ever seen it do was make the sun look really bright which was interesting. Most of the time it makes everything look a little weird
>>215030813>What is this calibrated for?lights out, black paint on the walls, blackout curtains
>>215032794>>215032796lol you know what...this is going on a theater screen and I might just do no upscaling for that, but eh, won't that look bad? Please tell me because I have no idea what 720p would look like sandwiched between shots of 4K.
>>215032809>low quality postShow me an algorithmic analysis of the brightness of every scene in Solo: A Star Wars Story. Do it systematically, scene by scene. I want the legitimate satistical ratio of the brightness/darkness from every scene in that film, compared on a list titled "TOP TEN MOST BRIGHTEST SCENES IN SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY - FOR ANON". Until then fuck off zoomer faggot and stop asserting your opinions as fact. Prove it or don't speak. Saves you embarrassment.
>>215030826Personally, I thought Starship Troopers looked worse in 4k HDR. It could be my TV, though.
>>215032812If you use HDR on 4K original Star Wars, you can see a lot of detail that went either unnoticed or hardly noticed. Case in point, you know those rocks that Lucas kept messing with near R2-D2 in the scene where Luke meets Ben? Well I think Lucas accidentally filmed some kind of creature and you can see its eyes with HDR there. My guess is that he wanted to cover it up.
>>215032881Shush, my point on Solo was proven several years ago.
>>215032917Yeah, and we killed Bin Laden. I'm waiting on that detailed comparison, anyways. Chop chop
>>215030982>"i cant hear anything">turns volume up to an odd number that is not a multiple of 5
>>215032943>Yeah, and we killed Bin LadenIf you mean "we" by his own liver in 2002, then yes. Kino on that? Never.
>>215032951Samefaggot loser. NYPA make your own fucking thread
Do people really watch movies during the daytime/with the lights on?
>>215032964Are you sincerely autistic? That was sarcasm.
Btw sometimes theaters show films via satellite. It can go well or very wrong and I've experienced both.Why do they do that? I was told it was an extra security feature.
>>215030730Solo a Star Wars story
>>215032881>Saves you embarrassment.anon I'm getting second hand embarrassment from every one of your posts (and it's really obvious which ones are (You))
>>215032901>some kind of creatureThe glowing eyes?
>>215032984This is online, zoomy scum. Got it? Sarcasm doesn't translate well especially if one has shitty writing skills.>>215032967What is your point, dumbass? Kindly an hero. Thanx.
>>215033011Yes. The CGI rocks cover it up. It isn't a Jawa costume either.
>>215032951save yourself the trouble and just screen the 4k77 fanedit aka scanned film reelthere's nothing "rare" about what you have
>>215030780I thought this too, it seemed like having HDR turned on caused parts of images to be overly dark and incorrect looking.But then I tried watching the same content on a different device with HDR enabled and it looked great and correct. Turned out one game console handles HDR properly and the other doesn't
>>215033042I can prove it. It's rare. No one is watching the original cut. Lucas fooled you all. All those "uncut unaltered" 35mm prints were made during 1981 or after. No one but Lucasfilm (and me) has a real copy of the real 1977 edit from May 25. Even the one that showed May 26, 1977 isn't the real original and I can 100% prove it with real Lucasfilm materials.
>>215031548>>215032147I usually have a default which is slightly decreased in brightness, and slightly increased in contrast and vibrance. I also have a gaming profile that's basically default with increased saturation and for some movies I will toggle a volume reduction/amplification to normalize highs and lows if I'm watching late before bed
>>215030730I usually opt for an original Blu-ray rip of a 1080p or 4K torrent instead of "remasters" and "4K restorations". Can't trust em. I do enjoy Dolby Atmos sound and HDR10 I must say.
>>215030730its so funny watching millenials who dont want to accept they are old and starting to lose their sight and hearing complain about modern movies like they are the problem lmaogo to an optometrist already jesus christ
>>215032653better to have a 16GB 720p file that's been properly ripped and is upscaled to 1080p or 4K for playback is better than a 15GB 4K file made poorly
>>215033088>No one but Lucasfilm (and me) has a real copy of the real 1977 edit from May 25Okay Son of Nintendo tell us more
This is because the art of filmmaking is dying. Both the editing in post and actual filming (like proper lighting). It's horrible.
I bought all the Alien and Predator movies as a boxset and thought my copy of AvP: Requiem was defective.
>>215032777lucky dog
>>215033163Lucas left precious clues to what he did, but he left a major clue in a piece of official software and in it, is the proof, part of it anyway, the part that proves the film was altered May 26, 1977 and that the VHS, Laserdisc, and 4K cuts are not the original. I will admit right now that there are a few "changes" that will upset people and will not believe because I can't prove those, and technically one thing doesn't prove another, but this is a film not a murder case, so I'm doing all I can and I am not mistaken.
>>215031110Lol
Now, more information. This is going to sound like my dad who works at Nintendo told me I swear, guize, but, I used to know people. People with direct access to Lucasfilm pre-Disney.Now, one of those people-who was recently on TV-is aware of the real original cut. There is just one more non-Lucasfilm employee that can confirm. yes, yes, this proves nothing so far and I am keeping it that way for now until I break the news myself. Then I will specify and prove what I claim once and for all.
The plan is to do this before the 50th in order to force Disney's hand to restore the real original. Personally, I doubt they will do it because it contradicts the official narrative they've pushed for decades now, but who knows.
>>215032960>the volume has a sensitive scroll so it's really hard to get it onto the exact number you want
>>215031845You're completely right. There's no way the picture in the OP was shot on a modern film camera and that's the best they could do in post for a well lit scene. It's intentionally muddy and hard to read but they overshot the mark bad. I think it would look better on film because you'd have grain to help break up the gray blobs and add some movement.And IMO it's not too dark to shoot this on film either, plus they could have just shot it a little earlier in the day for more light.
>>215033283>>215033304alright fine I believe you. I'll leave my fax machine on and you can telegraph it to me in morse code when it's ready to be revealed
>>215030982>autistically responds with a blunt "NO"it's only autistic because you verbalized ityour grandfather would have given his GF a deserved smack for her troubles and then had her turn the light off.
>>215033388Smoke signals not ok?Really, I've been methodical, too much it seems. It'll get done quicker now that I've abandoned my upscaling plans.
>>215030780
>>215033426He's full of shit. Maybe he isn't for new films, but for old, he's wrong.
>>215032174Honest to god, I thought it was a shirtless guy in long johns
>>215030982>I hate sitting in the darkbitch why? you're watching a movie?
>>215030730Some flicks and shows are genuinely too dark but watching kino in a bright room is retarded.
>>215032648Pic related is photography HDR which got popularized in the late 2000s. It pulls the highlights down and pushes the shadows up so you can make out detail both in the bright parts of the clouds in the sky as well as the stuff happening in the shadows on the ground. This has basically nothing to do with the modern implementation of HDR in TVs and monitors which has more to do with contrast ratios and localized lightness/dimness. The anon I was replying to is an old fuck like me and was confused by the fact that the common use of the term HDR has changed in the intervening decade and a half.
>>215030766i saw this in theaters and in spite of the gigantic screen i still struggled to see shit at times
>>215032842Just make the 4k 720p.
>>215033029You can see it on the dvd
Modern movies in general look like absolute dogshit. Lighting, color grading, all of it.Even when it's supposed to be a bright sunny day, it looks so fucking plastic and unnatural it actually takes me out of the experience, because it's harder to immerse compared to older movies where the night looked like a real night and the day looked like a real day.I hate this "baby's first attempt at making cinematic visuals" approach so much.
>>215032327The most bizarre part about this is that the crew keeps shifting the blame. Apparently no one actually knows whose idea it was and they all regret how it looks.
>>215030813Option 1 buy OLED watch HDROption 2 turn off HDR on your shitty tv pb a Samsung
>>215032358is this real? what the fuck bro
>>215030766>>215031979>>215031800>>215033184I have a QD-OLED monitor here in the dark and these are still hard to make out.
>>215031979For Hereditary i think it worked quite well. There was a couple of scenes at least where at first I didn't notice anything at first but then saw the thing in the background. Modern movies need to start with a brightness calibration image like some video games.
>>215030780This both my TVs have it I turn it off No consumer OLED even gets near 1000nit sustainable
>>215031704>modern movie audio*whisper quiet dialogue that requires the volume at near max**BANG BANG BWOOOMMMPPP speakers utterly fucking exploded*
>>215030982Normies suck this is why I love fat girls and sucking on their milkers in a dark room
>>215030766You can really see the CGI budget on the screen.
>>215032079Lighting is a lost art and the we will fix it in post mindset post avatar 1 ruined movies going on two decades nowEveryone's quick to blame LEDs and digital cameras but there's been some gorgeous modern movies made on that tech for almost 20 years now
>watch a dvd rip of a 34 years old movie>Overall experience is better than watching a current year movie blueray rip true 4k hdr on a 1500 bucks tvWhy, don't they watch their own film ? Why releasing something you can see nor hear ?
>>215030730It's the netflixization of cinema
>>215034666>Watch older Shrek's and school of rock and shallow hal remuxs>Look fantastic can see everything >Put on the lost bus>Can't see shit in broad daylight Modern color grading was a mistake
>>215030730this is what happens when youj are a nigger and dont have the remux or actual BD. Watching encodes bitrate starved is why the movies suck. Stop watching streaming. Build your own server you actual niggers
>>215034553for you poor niggers shopping TCL sure.
>>215032983With the lights on no but the it inevitably gets bright during the day in most places. I just do like this anon >>215030857
>>215032358total hollywood death
i noticed this 15-20 years ago on the last couple Harry Potter movies and it hasn't gotten better since. the lighting, dialogue, CGI, music, and overall direction has gotten worse since the turn of the millennium. if you pay for movies, you are complicit.
>>215035242you were probably crying about orange and teal too. Not a single HP film is an offender of whats being discussed like GoT finale ITT. Seeing how most people are retarded, i posit these are why and NOT hollywood by and large>retards tone mapping HDR>downloading bitrate starved encodes>incorrect HDR mode on OLED tv>appletv dynamic range issueslargely everyone posts a screenshot of some dogshit streaming encode. I dont have these problems with 1080p/2160p remuxes, but i also havent watched a film produced in the last 15 years. This darkness shit pales in comparison to the mandatory use of subtitles since they stopped mixing properly
>>215030982>gf: *looking up from phone* i don't understand what's happening
>>215031979hereditary was fucking awesome in the theater for shit like this
>>215031992fantastic explanation, and remember that those are ALSO different than the HDR we first learned about with Half-Life 2 and the little Loat Coast demo which was basically just bloom
>>215030780hdr stands for HAHAH Dumb Retards bought this shit
>>215030730That's me on the couch
>>215035506there is no better viewing experience on earth for the consumer then an LG OLED G series. poor fags, you all stick to hisense and tcl ok
>>215031935>uncompressed video streamRetard
compare Batman Returns to The Batman.
>>215030730meanwhile 60 years ago you could see everything on tiny CRTs and they used colour in the shows. We have to go back.
>>215035555>noooo it's nighttime, why is a blue light shining on everything?!?!said no one ever.
>>215035524I sure do love my Quantum Dot™, nano edge-lit© O-LED™ Smart© TV for the perfect Dolby Vision™ HDR10+™© experience with variable brightness adaptation thanks to DolbyVision IQ™©™©.
>>215031403Hmmpt Cinematography you mean?
>>215035597if youre poor say that, if youre blind say that. HDR10,HDR10+ are indeed inferior to Dolby Vision and if you are too poor to experience DV then thats ok. You are a poor ignorant chap that will never experience a stanly kubrick 70mm film made for 4k UHD, and it will scale to 12kUHD too, in fact all 70MM films will. Cope you cant experience the peak of at home cinema
>>215031110Lmao that whore learnt her lesson
>>215035559To be fair Star Trek TOS was basically an advertisement for color TVs, which was a huge luxury back then. My dad watched the show in black and white growing up. Poor guy.
>>215035626you are completely right fellow rich-enjoyer.not buying a price-awarded HDR10+ ™©™© S.M.A.R.T. TV is brown-coded.You're not a nigger are you?? Buy NOW!
>>215033304>Adding back in this three second scene when Chewbacca's on his period and queefs blood all of the window of the Millenium Falcon will make Star Wars good again!It's dead bro, it's been dead for decades, you gotta let it go.
>>215031026lmao fuck off nigger
For me it's the fact that Criterion actively works to fuck up every old movie re-release
I am an cameraman in hollywood (not cinematographer). I fucking hate everyone I work with most of the time.99% of people in the camera department are absolute idiots and nobody fucking understands lighting anymore.Everyday I want to punch myself having to work with these retards.The only time I had a blessed experience was during Ridley Scott's production.Every other movie I worked on was run by the dumbest fucking idiot you could imagine.
>>215033599next time watch it in zimbabwe
>>215035753Are you sure you're not the problem Sanjeet?
>>215035686>posts from their 2,000 iphone on a $40 payment planyes the one spending on televisions are the goys! Hopefully you at least got an iphone max to enjoy your kinos
>>215035762no.the problem are all the diversity hires.
Nothing funnier than poorfags who have to watch torrented movies on a computer monitor while sitting in a gaming chair.
>>215030730isnt that a show about ed gein?
>>215035845what the fuck is this suppose to convey? Predator on bluray looks like fucking wax figures, worst BD ever made arguably and the 4k UHD is fucking phenomenal. If you want to start a movement why the fuck arent we rioting about cropping old tv shows, or censoring guns out of posters? Who the fuck cares if a studio outsourced to retards to transfer a bluray
>>215030982ha ha yea, WOMEN, amirite?I can’t believe you posted “my girlfriend” and expected us to take you seriously
>>215031350batman looks amazingentire point is that you are not supposed to see shit in some scenes, it does dark properly
>>215035868>all those contradictionsWhat you feel is what it is to be genuinely retarded
>>215035555That's some great lighting.
>>215035896Not my fault that you can't attract women, cry more.
>>215036068not a single contraction there jackass, you think a medium that is in motion can be captured with still frame gotchas, you are retard. You probably spent half the time in ITT trying to figure out to post an HDR screenshot to complain
>>215036100you can see actual lights reflecting on the shiny costumes. and your brain does not care. looks great.
>>215036152meanwhile, in the 2020s...
>>215032358Literally film versus digital.
>>215030730I could see in the not too distant future tv having an AI feature that will calibrate the settings for the best picture for each movie.
>>215032327I watched this in the theater with my dad and we ended up leaving before it ended because neither of us had a clue what the fuck was going on
>>215035961>entire point is that you are not supposed to see shitentered the thread expecting this retarded take, it's a movie you nigger, a visual medium, you convey the darkness you don't actually make the fucking screen black
>>215036307>you convey the darkness>you don't actually make the fucking screen blackso which is it you retarded fuck?you know how you potray blackness? with blackyou want to potray the collor yellow with the color green?
>wasting daytime to watch slop
>>215036419look, in this scene, Ripley is hiding from the alien, exciting stuff isn't it? you dumb fucking faggot
>>215031110lost it for whatever reason
We used to be a proper country.
BEHOLD THE GREAT WONDERS OF HDR
LOOK ALL THAT EXTENDED GAMUT
>>215030730>2025>anons still don't have oled tv'spoorfags are pathetic. t. 65" c1 owner
>>215036737>65">calling others poorfagsLol, lmao even.
>>215036696the big question is why cinematographers keep using HDR as a method to preserve details in the shadows when is a tech designed to preserve details in the highlights
>>215032552>there's like one proper HDR game in existence.which is?
>>215036826>pay twice as much for 75That's just not worth it.
>>215033426RIP Geoff, great guy
>>215036870i spent like 6k on an 83in G series, worth every penny, if i was scrooge mcduck i would have gotten the 93in for 20 grand. starts to get towards a million to get a proper imax at home
>>215036450>1 frame>from a moviefucking braid dead fuckyou can find a black or white frame in any movie, or a cut or what everhow stupid are you?
>>215030780Anyone who says this is just exposing themself as being poor, and the owner of a fake HDR TV since manufacturers are allowed to say a TV "supports" HDR even if it can accept a HDR signal, regardless of whether it has the hardware to actually display HDR properly. If you don't have an OLED or a decent Mini LED set then you've never actually seen HDR.
>>215031880Your display is either setup wrong or trash. Fix yo shit.
>>215036870>75LEL, LMAO EVEN!
me, i don't want to be dependent on larger screens.have you ever seen an old newspaper, from the first half of the 20th century? fucking 9 pt text, basically a novella on every sheet. nowadays i have text scaled up in my web browser ;_;
Goodfellas 20th Anniversary Blu-ray vs Goodfellas 25th Anniversary Blu-rayhttps://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=5839&d2=5838&s1=54854&s2=54836&i=2&l=0
>>215037072good improvements in 5 years, personally i like the movie censor site to determine whether to get DVDs or blurays, especially TV and music
>>215037072No, child, I will not click your link.
>>215037112that site is older then you zoomer
>>215030766Edwards said that during the transfer to Blu-Ray the company fucked up, that it was fine when he gave it to them, the fixed it on the newest release
>>215037139Those are you delusions again, child.
>>215037142anons cant process theres an entire niche subsection of piracy dedicated to the best transfers based on region, lot of times pirates fix these bad blurays for free too
>>215037112well done. that page could have JavaScript on it.
>>215037112Then don't, you don't need to announce it
everything will be dark including the castthe music will be too loudthe dialogue will be too lowand you'll like it
>>215037212Posting untrustworthy links constitutes felony harassment. Do not worry, child, the police will be visiting you shortly. Enjoy.
>>215030780It is. It's the TV equivalent of raytracing (or pathtracing), where technology intended to give artists a wider palette just further complicates the creation process and having the unintended effect of enshittifying the final product.As a refresher:Raytracing happensDevs now encouraged to ignore the light composition and have levels lit automatically and dynamically by organic lightingAs a result levels all look like shitOr digital video happensBillion postprocessing options available but only if you shoot flat RAW footage that can be more easily digitally manipulated laterNo more scenes actually shot at night because that might remove detail for later conversion of the scene into "fake night"No more on set custom lighting because of the sameNobody wants to put in the painstaking effort of digitally remastering scenes with the postprocessing tools available because of expense.As a result everything looks like shit, yellow Dune filter or blue Last Duel filter.Same thing with HDR.Same thing with CGI.Same thing with digital surround green screens used in Mandalorian and every other Disney production.
Are film cameras just better than digital cameras at capturing light in dark scenes?
For a second there i thought the picture was making fun of him for being a cuck that has been sent out of the room by his bull.
>>215037471That is not a dark scene, it's a scene lit to look like it's dark
>>215034666I also still watch the LOTR DVDs instead of BDs even though I own them both, the DVD version looks more organic
>>215037471yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTUM9cFeSo
>>215037250Your life is already over stalker, Enjoy Prison.
>>215037531 lmao why is a chipmunk talking in this vid
>>215037471It's a whole host of variables but they all begin with digital and lazy filmmakers.
>>215037471Yes.
>>215037471no digital cameras are objectively better at shooting in darkness but color grading has turned everyone in the industry retarded. Everything being muted is some stupid trend being chased for god knows what reason, I guess its because they shoot flat and in LOG and then just don't have the time to make anything good out of it. You couldn't cheat like that with film so they had to actually light the scenes I will never understand it by the way, why muting everything and making your shots look like a uniform soup of dark bland nothing.. they're ruining their own movies and they're okay with it? I don't get it.
>>215030730I'm not gonna read furtherHas no one commented on the naked dude or the reflection subject matter content?Also love HDR on my 10 bit OLED ultrawide monitorGetting an RTX card so I can have ai upscaled and HDR'd for all content without having to mess around with Reshade/Special K/etc
>>215032960Volume settings shouldn't be numbered visible to the user.
>>215035961>>215036307Which one of you is fine with the scene in the TMNT movie where Raph puts the light out with the sai and they peat up the punks in complete darkness? Because that's the side I'm one.
This issue has nothing to do with HDR.Is the issue more common in HDR content? Yes, because large part of new content is HDR and the issue is typical in new productions.
>>215037601It's because colorists tend not to have creative control and directors/producers who do have creative control tend not to have the skills of colorists.There are instances where cinematographers or colorists do have creative control and those movies tend to look better.
The Master is one of those modern films that is praised for its "stunning" look. But what if you went back and improved it even more? Here's The Master through an even more modern lens. I think PTA and the industry as a whole would approve of this.
good lighting =/= realistic lighting
>>215032983this was never a problem in the past because movies were brighter
>>215037471no, it's a lighting on set and post production issue. modern crews don't know how to do either, it's a lost art.
>>215030730>>215030766Terminator: Dark Fate has a fight scene in an airplane and it's so dark and fast that I can't make sense of it
>>215030982kek
>>215030826>>>215030780>It's digital photography that's causing it.no nigga
>>215032543This movie is finally getting a 4k release and I can't wait to see what it looks like.
>>215035961That movie was terrible.
>>215030730Do the anti-glare covers for TVs actually work?
>>215030730AvP: Requiem was more than a decade ahead of its time in this regard.
>>215036934>6klol You could get 65"ers from lg with fantastic picture quality for 1k when they were on sale.
>>215041083ohnononono
>>215030780Leave it to stupid fucks to not understand a technology and act superior for shitting on it
>>215041187And here's the prime example >>215037254I was gonna say retards say the same shit about raytracing before even reading this post.In the case of HDR it's even a worse offense because you can SEE why it's good, with your own fucking yes. Raytracing has inherent benefits too but you can bake very close approximations so it isn't as clearly obvious every time.
>>215041239
It’s because modern filmmakers are uneducated millennial twats who don’t realize you have to overexpose sets.
Kubrick had a model of the outlook hotel built in pre production of The Shining that he used to position lights and, using a 35mm camera would take photographs developed in an on-site dark room so that he could communicate to his lighting crew exactly what he wanted before they were even filming the movie. This process took 2 months.Or just shoot digital, who cares lol.
>>215041471>Here's that bright, sunny day I was telling you about
That color grade lets the audience know they've entered the soviet bloc
>>215041497What's the top? Production photos?
>>215041538from older movies
>>215030730I knew there would be a naked man to see somewhere
>>215030730> Movie dark as shit, can't see what's going on> Audio so low in talking scenes it sounds like mumbling so I have to turn the volume up> Anything apart from dialogue is so fucking loud you have to turn the volume back downI hate movies
>>215041471The seemed to fix this problem in Dark Wolf at least
>>215031548fucking kek
>>215031704>>215034556This. Whispergun is such a stupid genre/subgenre of movies. I think the otherwise all-around terrible Ecks vs Sever was one of the first ones where the dialogue is whispered and mumbled and puts you to sleep only for immediate cut to BANG BANG POW BRRRAPAPAPAPA PEW PEW PEW to jolt you awake
>>215030780Anything "innovation" beyond 720p is a joke.
>>215034681You think thats badwait until people start framing shit to make it easier to share the viral moments on vertical social media like reels and tiktok
>>215030730>no one posted AvP Requiemthat movie walked so that all these shitty modern movies could runwhich is a damn shame cause that movie fixed everything that was wrong with the original AvP (PG13, wacky fun house setting, inter-racial sleigh ride of fun and friendship, WWE-tier fighting) and instead you had kids and pregnant women being killed off left and right and what seemed like great practical effects.
>>215037471it's not the camera per se, but a combination of the director knowing how the scene should look like so he knows what to ask the light and set department, plus the knowledgeable cinematographer who knows which film stock they're using and how it responds to light so he can set the right aperture, speed, etc. to capture the scene. so it takes a bit more effort than just shooting everyting plain on HDR and adjusting later on Final Cut or whatever
>>215030826It's about lighting and color grading. You can make digital look great, but they refuse to or are incompetent.
>>215041739>no one posted AvP RequiemIt's been posted several times retard
>>215041739>(21 KB, 780x438) jpgNot that I don't believe you but come on man
>>215041757I guess I couldn't see the posts
I don't understand how cinematography has gotten so bad. It's not digital, because there are better looking films from the 2000's that were shot with even less friendly digital cameras. Plus you see when some oldfag DP shoots on digital, even with naturalistic lighting, it still looks good (like Lubezki on The Revenant). I go back and watch any "big" film from the 90's and it looks so much higher quality. Even the mid tier slop, EVEN when it's meant to be dark and murky, looks better.
>>215032327Nah this is a misunderstood classic, it was a pretty ballsy move to film an alien invasion from the perspective of a blind man.
>>215031800Tbf you shouldn't watch a 1000kb/s pajeet yify rip
>>215032147what the fuck i read that as you have 5 tvs you switch between when needed
>>215041782
>>215041767here's you, here's some 1080 goodness
we need to go back
>>215041782It's laziness. They shoot it with a "figure it out in post" mentality.
>>215041739AHHHHH IT'S THE ALIEN FROM ALIEN VS PREDATOR... I THINK
>>215041874It is?
>>215032960I do this intentionally, fuck you..
>>215041739Is this the alien, or the predator? or something else?
>movie designed to be watched in the cinema>watch in living room with all the curtains open in the middle of the day with every light turned on>WTF ITS DARK???
>>215035961The filmmaker is so retarded he shot Batman digitally, then printed that digital file on film, then SHOT that film with a digital camera again. That is why everything at the edges is blurry. It's not intentional lens use on set, it's because it's literally a shitty transfer of a movie seen through a camera lens.
>>215041782Identity was a throwaway filler film back in the early 2000s. Its photography and production design look AAA tier by modern standards.Even the low budget horror slop looked good.
>>215041739me on the left
>>215041934How come this magic curtin/light switch trick doesn't make older films look like shit too?
>>215041433What the fuck why do you wanna kill me I didn't even do anything to you?
>>215031110Lmfao
>>215041842i wonder if it has something to do with the "realism" hunger of modern times
>>215041739
>>215041969you have to do this certain thing you never used to have to dobut I swear that's not a regression!
Retards who don't calibrate their tv's and watch movies with the lights don't deserve a good watching experience.
>>215041239Nah it's shit.HDR/pathtracing is the equivalent of adding all those new 'techniques' in fine-dining such as making a foam a reduction of some vegetable, or using squeeze bottles to make a small distribution of sauce/syrup, or cutting vegetables into cubes or special shapes.You can yell about how they all improve the experience from dawn til dusk, but the fundamental fact is that none of them actually make for a good dish. A delicious meal doesn't depend on any of those techniques. Same with a great movie or tv show. Those technologies are solutions looking for problems and have hijacked or supplanted the movie industry as a means for technology companies to get a cut from production companies, but have had the unintended effect of hampering art creation.
>>215042040>you must do ze calibrationsMeanwhile films 20 years ago somehow managed to look fine playing in both cinemas and on shitty cathode ray tube TVs, running DVDs on PS2's.
>>215041934>bro just watch this movie on the dark side of the moon>rookie mistake, you need to watch this 20 miles underground in an abandoned coal mine>work on my machine, I can see the aliens and predators just fine. Try removing yourself from the solar system as far as possible - ideally in a black hole.
>>215042040Optimal viewing conditions used to make the viewing BETTERNow you need it just to make the viewing POSSIBLEMiss me with that pathetic cope
>>215033184I remember we got this movie on dvd and told my mom that it was too dark and unwatchable and she got angry at me and stopped the movie out of rage like I was to blame for her not being able to watch AVP2, I still bring it up to her from time to time because it really pissed me off that she did that as I was indeed right
>>215041808You triple idiot. Obviously you were not there live when this episode aired. During the episode and immediately after the episode ended, social media exploded with complains that the episode was barely visible due to being so dark. The day after the episode aired, websites and youtube videos were filled with complains about how dark the scenes were, and how hard it was to enjoy the episode because the video was so dark that it was impossible to follow the action.Next time you feel like talking about something that you know nothing about, pipe down and keep your mouth shut, fagit.
>>215041782Because they think they can just fix everything using editing programs and CGI later.
>>215042040COMPUTER*boop boop beep*CALIBRATE TV SETTINGS TO "JOE ROGAN'S ISOLATION TANK"*beep boop*ah yes, look at those aliens fighting the predators.
Personally I'm sick of watching movies with my finger always on the volume controls, because the movie wants to alternate between deathly quiet dialogue and earrapingly loud music or sound effects.
>>215041497Are you comparing suits or lighting?
>>215041782Netflix actual requirements have always been: Shoot everything using any of the bellow approved digital 4K cameras.Do you know what their lighting requirements are? There aren't any.Zoomer and dei hires just point and shoot (the cameras are so good, nothing but natural lighting is needed)And when something is lit it's lit by LED, so even when they use it, it feels uglier.Why? because one, since the digital cameras are much more sensitive, they keep the LED's very dim, so the RATIOS of light between background and foreground etc, will never be as contrasty as they used to be. Two, LED lights arent the same color and they can't be, the wavelength rainbow of LED light is uneven with dips, so skintones and everything looks ugly.
Meanwhile at night in an 80s movie.
>>215037517why dont we have more of that nowadays
