refute this without sounding like an optimistic retard
>>215032353Literally no reason for surplus men with no pussy or job to not drop out of society.
>>215032353When you have baby they fire neurochemical transmitters in your brain that results in a sick, long term high dood
>>215032353Why is it always some trite justification instead of just "I don't want kids"? Not just in movies but in real life, too.
>>215032353this watch cost more than your baby
>>215032392because normies get mindblown by the concept. They won't accept 'no' for an answer, you must have a very good reason to not want kids as if it were you obligation as human to reproduce
>>215032353>I am le smart because I'm depressed and pessimistic and unhappy and a drain to be around and waste my life feeling shitty and alone and you're actually a retard if you're not like thatHmm... okay.
>>215032420They are. Like objectively. Just euthanize yourself and safe us some resources you big jerk
>>215032420>hurrr muh normiesThe majority of people over 30 are childless now. Antinatalism is now a default position not some edgy incel idea
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>>215032449At least they'll end up in gas chamb- i mean euthanasia pods or be mistreated by the nurses near the end
>There are 1.3billion Indians. If YOU don't have children, it will get much worse.
>>215032353>Has shoot 8 kids irl
>>215032472Worse for who? If I dont have children I have no reason to give a shit about the future. I won by not playing.
>>215032466Probably more tolerable than your kids and grandkids guilt tripping each other into visiting you every 1-3 months.
I love this movie.
>>215032449>The majority of people over 30 are childless now.Patently obviously false where do you even get this shit
somewhere out there, a grotty evil balding incel in his smelly childhood bedroom thinks it's somehow profound or ironic that alec baldwin said this line in a movie once, while acting, but has a lot of kids irl
>>215032598Who cares what the insane psychopath Alec Baldwin does in his personal life?
>>215032598That's an extremely clear example of irony, though. Use words correctly.
>>215032353The world's always been a shithole buddy
>>215032598do you know what ironic means?
>>2150325842bh, the bigger problem is not that the birthrate in america is 1.6 or whatever, but that the birthrate among high IQ, hardworking, tax-paying, mentally sane women under 30 is like 0.0I have spent a lot of time around high-earning intelligent women, the ones who have never had a therapist or taken SSRIs, and have had full time jobs or grad school throughout their 20s, and not one of them has had a kid. It's unthinkable to them. And the data seems to concur.These women form the basis for the continuation of technological civilization. IQ, mental illness, mathematical ability, and work ethic are all heritable.The worst part is that the people aware of these sorts of things, who want to solve fertility crisis, are generally hard right-wingers whose vague idea is to reverse feminism. That is ludicrous, it seems to me impossible, the type of women I'm talking about would rather kill themselves, and even after the decades it would take to implement something like that it would be too late, the high IQ blood would have died out.The one reasonable solution I've heard is to cheap 24/7 au pairs, ones who could take care of the screaming infant at 3am, but that would probably also be impossible to implement.
>>215032353Its kind of unrealistic for a criminal to have this kind of self awareness and not have multiple kids from multiple moms.
>>215032621yeah it seems pretty on point for the misanthrope big iron baldwin
>>215032353I like being alive and I'd like so share the experience with my future kids :)https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFXkPWhNVXY&pp=ygUQbm9ybSBiZWluZyBhbGl2ZQ%3D%3D
>>215032629>>215032656would it be ironic if you painted a fence once at work, while never painting fences in your free time?
>>215032675>not one of them has had a kid.just to clarify i meant that none of them have had a kid in their 20ssome of them have one or two kids at most in their 30sand i think that's the big problem
>>215032713if at work you swore you would never paint fences because you hated it but then painted fences in your free time it would indeed be a bit ironic
>>215032675Intelligent and wealthy women just don't want kids generally. Same with intelligent/wealthy men but to a lesser degree (they don't have to go through pregnancy) but I don't think it's a problem since artificial wombs are a couple decades away at most.
what if you convinced a kid that painting fences was actually fun and not just tiresome labor, so he gave you his apple for the privilege of painting the fence for you? Would that be ironic?
>>215032713I bet that analogy sounded better in your head.
A b cAlways be copulating
>>215032353it's ironic how he says here that he doesn't want any kids but in real life he has many
>>215032771>but I don't think it's a problem since artificial wombsoh yeah man now i feel a lot better about it. artificial wombs.
>>215032756but it wouldn't be ironic if your job was to just say whatever you were asked to say, including a condemnation of fence painting.
>>215032353"The world" is whatever your surroundings are. You can make your world good, but you have to learn to create and control it.
>>215032833>it's bad because it's ICKY (except not really)wow man society is really missing out on your genes
Its pretty ironic that the sign says "Seed and Feed" yet the owners name is Chuck
>>215032826NOOOOOOOOO YOU STUPID F*66OT IT'S NOT IRONIC AT ALL, THAT WAS DEBUNKED.
>ok alec now tell me.. are cinematographers in the room with you right now?>not living ones.
>>215032353Psalm 127:3-5 KJVLo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
>>215032848>love fences>work as a fence condemner yeah it would. sounds even more ironic.
>>215032866it's not about the ickiness you fucking retard, you don't understand the problem.If not even the intelligent women can bear to deal with the crying shitting screaming infant at 3am, then the intelligent men will absolutely not do it. No sane man will ever do that to himself, willingly turn himself into a single father.It's sci-fi delusion
>>215032899but you're not working as a fence condemner, you were paid to say "painting fences is boring makework" oncei've now completely abandoned the analogy and am just substituting "fence" for "baby"
>>215032420to be fair, it goes against the biological prerogative. You say you don't necessarily want children now, but towards the end of your life you may change your mindI think it's natural to want to continue yourself on some level. If not through children, then something else
>>215032910the robots will do it for us bro, calm your tits
>>215032930does painting babies make it less, or more ironic?
>>215032353You will have no one there to look after you when you are at the end. Your last moments of life will be in complete despair and sadness that no one will bring your name up or remember you, that you will get dementia and just wander around the house till you starve to death because you have no children. No one will be at your funeral, no one will even be there to buy your casket and bury you.
>>215032933yes children are natural
>>215032953what if you convinced the neighbor's kid that painting fences is fun so that he'd trade you his apple for the privilege of painting it himself? would that be ironic?
>>215032963Wait, dementia is caused by not having kids? The fuck?
Having children is the most important thing in life.Me and my husband have been searching for a donor eggs for years now
>>215033012You don't need a donor egg, you can just cum in his ass, you dumb faggot. It's called anal pregnancy.
>>215032963This is just cope from people too scared to face reality. Everyone dies alone. Helplessly gasping for air or in some other fucked up way. Might even be worse to bring kids into existence just because you’re scared of being alone. Anti-natalists at least admit the truth.
>>215033058Are you not aware people die peacefully in their sleep having seen their children regularly all the way up to death?3 out of 4 of my grandparents died that way.
>>215032977>trade you his applei hate things like this. like a fake wholesome enjoy the little things in life. an apple is not at all significant, even if something is necessary for the "trade" to occur. now i sound like one of the those awful writers critiquing harmless american low class lives like that rabbit run author
>>215032446I'll waste all the resources I can before offing myself
>>215033100Most people die in a state of semi-delirium while gasping for breath and their family usually isn't there.
Having children is the highest form of cuckery. Like, imagine spending 18 years minimum raising some ungrateful nigger. This is absolutely cucked. I think about my own parents, how much time, effort, and money they spent on me, only for me to really kinda hate them. Lmao.
There is an undeniable fact that if you have kids, you are also more invested in the world's bettermentThat's what singletards can't fathom. Their neurons just can't comprehend that the world IS shit, but you are the cause precisely because you don't have kids.
Life is great you're a retard. If you're hideous or mentally ill you can just drink, play vidya and goon all day long on disability.
I did more prep for my NEET benefits interview than i did for my interview at goldman sachs
>>215033203Yes, its my fault. Not the hordes of niggers and jeets, those are good people bettering the world as we speak since they have a lot of children. Nah I'm the problem. Thank you for making me see this, you are extremely smart.(i was being ironic)
>>215033320>(i was being ironic)you paint fences?
>>215033254
>>215033320I correct myselfIf you are a CIVILIZED fellow, you'll be more investedIf you are a nigger you actually still don't care about the world because you also don't care about the kid or the mother of your kid, for that matter
>>215032353Stop whining
>>215032933>If not through children, then something elsethrough telling wagies what to do I live on.
>>215033438this
>>215032446>your obligation is to keep the cycle going>why?>to keep the cycle goinghumans are parasites. Nay, all life actually.
You voted for it to be a shit hole.
I can't even get hard most of the time. Not something I ever have to think about.
>>215032963>I have kids because I'm a pussy who won't eat a bullet when the time is rightYou're perpetuating existential misery. Quite sad that only the very high IQ see this and they don't have the numbers to make a dent.
>>215032353my parents are retards. the idea that i'm gonna buck the trend somehow and not be a terrible parent is astronomically low. I also can't even look after my self let alone another human being. I can just about look after my cat (she's chill though). i'm never gonna own a property, i'm surrounded by people that think importing more brown delivery drivers is a good thing, schools indoctrinate your children to be slaves. the world IS a shit hole. there is no opportunity for anything. there is no future. I will be watching the end of the world from my neet cave. feel free to cope and seethe about how i'm somehow 'wrong'.
>>215033203>africans are more invested in the betterment of the world than a childless ukrainian martyred soldier
>>215033438>repress your harshest viewsmaybe fuck off to reddit, they'll coddle the fuck out of you there
>>215032353Everyone I know that has kids did not plan them
>>215034752You're still whining
>>215032675You either have continuation of technological civilization or you have the survival of the white race. You can't have both right now. Technology can be rebuilt in the future, the white race needs to survive right now.
>>215032420>as if it were your obligationIt literally is. Kindly kill yourself and stop stealing resources from the people who actually use them. Your life is worth less than that of 100 men with children
>>215034594kill yourself projecting parasite nobody loves you, nobody will miss you
>>215032963Only if you weren't loved in life.People who focus on having kids rather than being good to those around them will still end up alone, their kids will end up hating them and cutting them off as soon as they reach maturity.
>>215034579huh? who do you think would feed you shitskins? you don't do it yourselves, so
Undeniably the most cucked thread on /tv/ right now.Genecucked, memecucked, scenecucked.You have kids as part of empire-building. If you're not building an empire, and elevating your house, it doesn't matter what you "think" are your opinions because you're not a Great Man and therefore don't even exist in History.
The scariest part for me is even if you do everything right for the kid you still have a 50/50 chance of the kid becoming a fuck up or whore due to the fact you basically have no control over them during their teens and college years which basically forms the real basis of them as a person.
>>215034803amazing, no argument whatsoever. whod have guessed
>>215034764Idiocracy --the movie, is becoming more real everyday :(
>>215032963 So true, the best way to solve this is to have kids who will grow up resenting you and will ultimately abandon you in a nursing home while begrudgingly visiting you once a month
>>215034844If it's as good as 50%, you play the numbers game and have more than one kid. 2 kids would have 75% chance of at least one turning out good, 4 kids would have 93.75% and so forth. The truth is the odds are much, much worse than 50/50 but you can still just make more until you get at least one worthy descendant. If Henry VIII could do it, so can you.
If you have children you are increasing the amount of suffering in the world, so you shouldn't have any.
>>215032353you're jewish or indian
>>215032353This was such a great movie
>>215032353i am basedthere should be more of me
What would happen if you just buy a cabin in the woods, fill it up with essentials and just live without any connections whatsoever to society.Just go hiking, fishing, cut wood and stare into the fireplace for the rest of your life. Would it be an improvement?
>>215034841You will never have children and if you do they'll become trannies
>>215036868living the dream
>>215032353No, he’s completely right.
>>215032675Skill issue. Lil bro had 0.0 game.
>>215036868Thats what most men are doing these days minus innawoods part. Just exist without purpose.
>>215032675>That is ludicrous, it seems to me impossibleRepeal the 19th and everything would fall back in place.Isaiah 3:12 KJVAs for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
>>215034718impressive how you manage to admit you can't take care of yourself and still act superior in one short post
>>215032675Nigger, IQ has been rising since the 50s. Also be careful not to confuse "heritable" with genetic.
>>215033254In america?
>>215032963I volunteered at a nursing home and spoke to many of the residents, pretty much all of them had kids, the brutal truth of the matter is most working class people can't afford to look after their elderly parents by being their babysitter because they have to work full time to provide for their own family.
>>215032353>>215032598the studio heads and producers, and the actors that make these films have tons of kids AND adopt random things from africa.
>>215032675Because, genuinely, if you were one of those women, why would you? You're setting out to waste the prime years of your life (20-30) by tying yourself down to a little faggot that you won't be free of until you're at least 40, when your best years are well behind you.
>>215032353You grandparents had it a hundred times worse and you turned out just fine lol.
>>215038207My grandparents got free housing from the communists (that I didn't inherit because they squandered it before dying), and free EU pensions for basically never doing anything with their lives, they spent 80+ years living for free, in a 99% white country, with them beign uneducated worthless peasants.
>>215032353i can't. having babies in current day just means increasing your troubles. if you're not rich enough to afford raising your kids in an environment safe from troons and jewish propaganda you shouldn't be having kids at all. and even then there's a chance they may end up hating you when they grow up.
>>215034841>muh empirename your grandfathers grandfather. how many generations do you think your name or memory will last?
