It's a single-celled protein combined with synthetic aminos, vitamins and minerals. Everything the body needs.
I understand that one dude who likes steak
>>215034254So you're saying that its a bowl of cum?Hold the steak thanks
>>215034254bruh I'm not even a big guy (4U) and I'd need some 20 of those a day
I would unironically like to have ready-to-eat rations to strictly control my calorie intake.Counting calories the old-fashioned way, even with convenience apps like MyFitnessPal, is a gigantic pain in the ass.
>>215034254>YOU WILL EAT THE SLOP>YOU WILL LIVE UNDERGROUND>YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE SUNLIGHT>YOU WILL LOOK AT THE MONITOR SCREEN>YOU WILL LIVE IN FEAR OF ROBOT ATTACKS>AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
What did they do with their waste? Did they have a chute on the ship that just blasted it into the tunnels? Did they haul it all back to Zion? How did they get rid of it? The city existed for centuries, did they have a giant cistern of ancient logs?
>>215034260You would have to be fucking crazy to ever voluntarily unplug yourself. Imagine waking up one day from your normal life into a subterranean hell world, any normal person would immediately go back and assume they were having a horrible nightmare.
>>215034407
>>215034254Major plot hole. If they got the technology to hack into the matrix they can send stimulating signals to the brain, telling it you're eating caviar, even if you're not.>your mind makes it real
>>215034254Why couldn't they make it into pills or something, just swallow one and move on, liquid slop feels like humiliation ritual.
>>215034411>>215034407They eat mush. It’s diarrhea year-round.
>>215034507it probably absorbs completely.
>>215034496Just go into the Matrix and spend a nice evening chilling and eating all your favourite food and stuff
>>215034254>single-celled proteinboy i hope somebody got fired for that blunder
>>215035062how come
>>215034392boomers didn't put any effort into perpetuating or ensuring viablity nor stability of cultural institutions or normalities because they were all told we'd be living on the moon and taking all of our meals in a pill form
>>215034432I guess that's why Morpheus was so fucking cagey about explaining what the Matrix was.>unfortunately noone can be told what the Matrix is, you have to see it for yourself>now take this drug, wake up in the post-apocalyptic hellscape, get dumped into the sewer and live with us in cold and poverty>no you can't go back. No I'm not sorry for not explaining this before the "no take backs" point
>>215035201Yeah it's actually not so hard to explain>we live inside a computer simulation Neo, the real world is in ruins and taken over by machines who use our bodies for energy. Your real body is asleep in a pod. Btw you're bald in real life Neo
>>215035147the writer probably meant single-cell protein not single-celledsingle celled protein implies there are multi-celled proteins, but proteins aren't made of cells and aren't the only components in cells. whereas single-cell means the protein is derived from a unicultured unicellular organism
>>215035460>Btw you're bald in real life Neothe blue pill. i'll take the blue pill please
>>215035010Who would get you back out? Cypher? That fucker covertly arranged a meeting with Smith, plugged himself in, plugged himself out (HOW???) without anyone noticing.
I'm reminded of Saints Row 4 deciding to rip on Matrix.
>>215034254 is that... Trinity's and Switch's milk?
>>215035201also you just wouldn't believe him
>mouse I said give me one hour alone to train in this custom sim, I can sense you watching me you cheeky little rat, how do you expect me to survive the matrix if I cant master this situation?
>im warning you mouse close your god damn eyes this isnt meant to be seen by pathetic little ratlets like yourself, when I jack back into the ship Im beating your bussy for ruining my training
>>215034260why didn't they just program his brain to think when he ate the slop that it tasted like steak?
>>215034254Why did Cypher betray humanity to go back in the Matrix when the trainer guy showed that they could host their own mini Matrix themselves?
>>215034254I think you'd need fibres too.
>>215037200he wanted to forget everything
>>215035562This was always my beef. It's shown that you absolutely need a 2nd person to jack in and out of the matrix so how the fuck did Cypher do it alone without anyone noticing?
>>215037359Agent smith gave him a pill in the matrix that makes him sleepwalk IRL so he can unplug himself.
>>215034254>>215034392We literally have IV TPNs that injects nutrients directly into the veins of people in coma
>>215037359You don't need to sneak in if the machines are inviting you.
Low key bluepill shill thread
>>215034432To be honest, Morpheus cheated when told to Neo that he cannot describe the Matrix and he should have seen it by himself. He knew that no one would have chosen such life by own will.
>>215035561kek
>>215034432The two biggest brown religions are built around the idea reality is a cycle of suffering you need to free yourself from
>>215037747He didn't cheat. He literally can't tell Neo without endangering him and themselves. If Neo knows, the machines will kill him. But not before they scour his memory for everything he found out about Morpheus, Trinity, and all of the rebel operations. Neo is either fully committed or he leaves. There is no 50%, tiptoeing in, bullshit.
>>215035460If someone came to you right this second and told you that, would you believe them? Of course not, you'd laugh in their face and tell that crazy loon to fuck off.
>>215034496>>215035010Reloaded showed that they can jack in, spend their days in comfortable simulations interacting with the real world doing their jobs, while their real bodies are asleep in the shitty squalor wearing rags. There's no reason they had to physically eat the goop rather than be in their simulator eating steak while having a tube feed them the goop.
>>215037200probably unlimited steak and unlimited cunny
>>215038073Is this before or after a biomedical squid enters my body though my belly button and this is extracted by a celebrity hacker?
>>215034392Nutrient perfect human rations can be done(I think were even) but the caveat it doesn't taste good so people dont want it and thus it isnt made.>>215037580That comes with its own problems and sure as fuck would be huge infection risk if done outside of a hospital environment.
>>215034254Why not just break the slop down in to a pre-digested form and feed themselves intravenously while they're in one of their LAN only matrix private servers that they control eating a nice dinner?If they can genetically engineer and mass-cultivate a single celled slop bacteria that's perfectly nutritionally complete why not genetically engineer some plants and animals that actually taste good? They're all elite super hackers and they can cobble together high tech brainjacking equipment and anti-gravity ships from shit they scavenged in the giant sewers that apparently go all the way to the bottom of the earth's crust but they don't understand the basic fact that morale is important? The whole reason Cipher betrayed everyone is that being a soldier for the human resistance fucking sucks, making it suck less should be imperative for them.
>>215037900>brownLiterally every fucking religion, retard. Even plato memed on the idea. Everything is built on the idea. Fucking hylic mouthbreathers on this board.
>>215038575You're brown and a third world. Also wrong.
>>215038630>strawman and deflectionShut up retard.
>>215038673It's Ad Hominem, dumbshit.
>>215038704It's both retard. Holy shit please stop posting on this board or anywhere. No one deserves your drooling nonsense.
>>215038119Yeah no I'll wear the rags and eat the gruel, no way I'm wageslaving in that VR hospital, it's nightmare inducing.
>>215034254>single celled protein
>>215039172It is pretty bright. Haven't they heard of Dark Mode? Sheesh!
>>215038439Isn't Onions (Onions) supplement a big thing?
>>215039220Problem? It's a single celled organism, made from proteins. Ya fuckin' babingus. >>215039258Onions?
>>215039258I think you meant to write Onions
If they had training programs and sandbox-type of virtual reality available to them, why not just create a fancy dining room just for themselves? Plug in for a meal, eat the most delicious food in the world, while in the real world someone is feeding you the nutrients directly in your veins.
>>215034407They do that all in the simulation though.
>>215035562He got really lucky that nobody got up to take a piss while he was in.
>>215034392>I would unironically like to have ready-to-eat rations to strictly control my calorie intake.Literally eat nothing but frozen dinners then. Work out how many packages to eat a day based on the nutrition facts and eat that many every day for the rest of your life.>>215034700Even if you don't eat food you still poop eventually. Over half of your feces is made up of dead bacteria and old blood cells.
>>215039550the bluepills are noticing
>>215039550unironically kino
>>215038538They would have all suffocated centuries ago anyway. You can’t have oxygen without photosynthesis, and you can’t have photosynthesis without the sun.
>>215034254the entire jewish population works tirelessly, day and night, to make this your reality. let that sink in
>>215034254>Hey Mouse, how’s that Card Captor Sakura program coming along?
Isn't it unhealthy to stop pooping?
>>215039654Mouse deserved better
>>215034392I eat the same thing almost every day. A little bit of everything o that I don't have too much of bad things and enough of good things. I lost almost 100 pounds in the last 8 months. It feels really weird. I used to sweat like a pig at nothing.I would welcome a one-in-all 'perfect' meal. I'm not really into the whole gourmet experience. I probably would be fine on a ship outside the Matrix eating cum tapioca/rice pudding looking slop. I already mix all my food anyway. I'm one step away from eating delicious homemade baby food at each meal lolNow I wonder... in the Matrix you look like you feel you are. But most fatso when they lose weight think of themselves as till fat (it's my case anyway). Would I still be fat in the Matrix?
It wouldn't be fair to eat simulated steak in front of people who were born outside the matrix.
>>215039724No. Some people naturally shit several times a day to once every 2 weeks and both extremes are fine a long as the poop comes out okay. If it takes 2 weeks and it come out liquid, you might have a blockage. If you shit water every day, you're a Mother of Dragons.
>>215039815>I lost almost 100 pounds in the last 8 months.Great job, bud. Now you don't have to carry the weight of essentially another human around on your back all day. Try running up a flight of stairs and marvel at how easy it is now.
>>215039860>once every 2 weeks>If it takes 2 weeks and it come out liquidthat's really not ok and means you need far more fiber. Fiber is what makes feces solid and pushes it through your system. Things constantly staying in there too long is going to lead to problems and likely eventually get cancerous
>>215034254Lost track of the number of times I've had to argue over the years why Cypher was right the whole time.>"IT'S BETTER BECAUSE IT'S THE RRREAAAAL WORRRLD!!!">"but it's fucking terrible, it's not actually living, only existing, eating snot and being cold and filthy">"BUT IT'S RRREEEEEEEEAAAOOLLLLLL"fucking nerds are so gay and stupid, pic unrel
>>215039550I remember everyone wearing those coats after the movie became a hit. t. boomer
>>215039553If you piss in the Matrix, do you piss in real life too?
>>215040179did you see people wearing pince-nez
>>215037900Mokhsha/nirvana
>>215040212Yeah, me______________. On that note, the Matrix is forever stuck in the pre-social media era. Wouldn't you want to go back if you could?
>>215040271absolutely
>>215038119They're supposed to be fighting a war to end the matrix, they're not there to acknowledge all its positives and use it on a daily basis for plwasure
>>215034411Reclamation systems. Would have been priority when Zion was established. God, I can't imagine how they decided to call it that.
>>215040083Holy shit your picrel made me chuckle a lot thanks anon you are liked here
>>215038729No, you.
>>215035201>>215035460It'll probably sound ridiculous, but I think that Morpheus' claim that you can't explain what Matrix is, in some ways, was true, because back in 2000s (before I had an internet access), no one could explain that Matrix was, and every synopsis I read in tv guides described the plot differently and so wildly inaccurate it was almost comical.
>>215040866Yeah it's like how it took a decade for people to get what world of warcraft is even though it was a pretty huge phenomenon back then As a zoomer it's funny how many times I've re-realized that no matter how much people from an era try to explain that era, the people who can actually tell you what was going on usually had nothing to do with it
>>215034392I've got just the thing for you
>>215039550>Were you listening to me Neo, or were you looking at the man in the red hoodie?
>>215034392agreed
>>215034432>You would have to be fucking crazy to ever voluntarily unplug yourselfIt's almost as if that's the fundamental question posed by the movie, which has given it its longevity far beyond what it would've had as a good sci-fi action flick, and has compelling answers on both sides>would you rather know a terrible truth that obliges you to fight a probably hopeless fight, or live a comfortabe lie that keeps you a slave to your enemies?There's no right answer
>>215034254Really looks like old cum.Are they stealing the cum from the battery humans?
>>215034254>>215034260You think in 15 years we'll look back at this scene and think "that shit looks so good what were they complaining about?"
>>215042301Food isn't going to suddenly be reduced to basics or get shitty in 15 years.>frog posterActually explains the fucking retarded question.
>>215042301Most definitely. You'll be eating bug bars and maybe if they're nice they'll give you an AI headset to convince you it's "normal" food
>>215034254>Everything the body needs.The body needs fat and carbs as well.
>>215042437>Food isn't going to suddenly be reduced to basics or get shitty in 15 years.No, it'll just become increasingly expensive and you'll eat more and more "alternatives"Most governments in the west are pretty much openly at war with farming now, especially meat farming, and they'll get their way over the next couple decades. They'll keep doing what they've been doing since 2020: Increasing climate restrictions and cost on farming, such as the current relentless pressure on the use of nitrate fertilizer, which is necessary for modern-scale food production, increasing the cost of energy, which is necessary for food production, and restructuring tax and zoning law to take more and more farmland out of use. Cow farts are being positioned as the next big Climate Threat so beef production can be throttled to where only the rich can afford to eat it regularly.European farmers have been rioting over this stuff for years now
>>215042503we don't need carbs. Excess protein is converted to glucose in the body to feed that kind of energy requirement. Stop blindly believing the food pyramid bullshit anon. >>215043054Exactly, endless cheap carb filled, seed oil goyslop for us while "our betters" will consume all the meat and untainted fresh food they want.
>>215043054>europeanlol
>>215040195It would be extremely painful
>>215042162It's collected during the activities taking place in the sweaty smelly niggerraves
>>215043169It's kind of impressive how they pulled it off. Massive money printing makes everyone who works for a living much poorer while it makes the richest asset owners hyper rich. Then you constrict the supply of protein through various world-saving regulations, making it even more expensive, which puts it out of the reach of ordinary people while the hyper rich are so disgustingly richer that they don't even notice that $10 steak is now an $80 steak. The end result is government putting the masses on a low-protein diet but the mechanism isn't so obvious
>>215043424Because I haven't used my pisser before?
>>215035148big if true
>>215043592I see this happening but I always wonder WHY. WHY are they doing this? Why do they want all the cattle on a shitty slop diet? What is their goal?
>>215044125There's no point in being rich if there are no poor people. Who is going to do all the things you don't want to do and serve you everything you want? They need the larger population to be desperate so they can leverage money to make us do whatever they want.
>>215044125My personal thought is that they've noticed that the internet is reordering society in the way McLuhan would've predicted if he'd been alive to see the world's dominant medium be a wholly decentralized, peer-to-peer global two-way communication network, and the basic structure of civilization that's evolved since the invention of the printing press is no longer logical, and becoming incomprehensible to everyone younger than 40Eventually, just like as happened when the printing press, and telegraph, and radio, and movies, and TV became dominant media forms, the majority of people are just not going to consent to a system that doesn't make any sense to them, and then there'll be a struggle to see what the new system is. But while those systems all kind of iterated on each other, becoming more centralized with smaller groups broadcasting to wider and wider areas, the internet reverses all of thatSo if you're at the top of the current system, and there's likely a fight coming of some sort, you'd want everyone who's going to oppose you to be as sluggish and weak as possible. You might even want to import an army of men who still think like the old centralized systems to act as your muscle
>>215039550Kino
>>215044273shit you might be onto something here anon
>>215034411designated shitting tunnels
>>215034254OP, you don't understand that a healthy and thriving civilization is oppression to a bunch of contrarian faggots who want to live like animals in a cave.The subtext is that the people of Zion were just losers using cheat codes for life because they couldn't hack it in the "artificial" (i.e. real world) of 1999, so they wanted to drag everyone down to their level by forcing them to live in poverty and squalor because seeing other people miserable is the only thing that makes them happy while the movies never addresses just how many people would kill themselves once learning the truth about the real world after being taken out of the Matrix with the insidious implication that they go after people who are young and impressionable so that they can be convinced to join their cult, no different than the Jedi in the prequels!Or do you think it's a joy struggling to survive in a post-apocalyptic wasteland with a bunch of smelly and degenerate They/Them's? If you wanted to live like that in the Matrix you could just move to India while I suspect that the machines left that shithole alone as they couldn't make it much worse with hundreds of millions of their own NPC's wallowing in their own filth and cow shit!Cyrus did nothing wrong as he ands everyone else weren't given a real choice, being forced into a nightmare existence with no option of being able to go back while he was right that if Morpheus told people the truth no one would ever want to leave the Matrix.
>>215044389"Understanding Media" is a hell of a read and well worth the couple hours it'll take. Obviously since it was written in the 60s it doesn't cover the internet, but when you read it and keep in mind how the internet is so fundamentally structurally different from any media form that came before it, everything going on now makes perfect senseThe best thing is it implies that World War III in terms of nukes flying and giant armies fighting battles is basically now impossible, but will sort of more be like a series of endless small terrorist attacks, assassinations and mass shootings, randomly in random places, aka what's been happening since the Internet became dominant in the 2000s. Like World War II was a blockbuster motion picture production and modern violence is like a Tiktok video going viral for a day or two and then being forgotten
>>215044559Neo and Co. were a bunch of shit disturbers and why Agents needed to exist while they never tell us what happened when 7.5 billion people were suddenly told that the world they were in was fake after the end of the third movie and can't even begin to image the cataclysm that would cause, with billions either killing themselves, killing each other or warping the matrix into some surrealistic environment with no tangible source of "reality" to hold onto, driving them into madness.Just imagine taking away all of the police in San Francisco and any sort of law enforcement whatsoever and allowing people to do whatever they wanted, how do you think that would look after a year (probably slightly worse than it already does now, so people wouldn't notice much change) and while Morpheus claims to have been rebelling against a system of control all he and Zion were doing was replacing it with another, one that they were in control of!So ask yourself, which would you prefer to live in and don't say the "real world" because you're a fucking liar because you aren't going to be forced to deal with the consequences of your decision from the comfort of wherever you're shitposting from......https://youtu.be/gnEIeVWLtbU?si=5IJJiCBvQX2NJhvo!!!FACT!!!
>>215042301It's hard to imagine we'll ever manage to refine nutrients to that level while at the same time lose any ability to make it look and taste better than that horrid slop.
>>215034254I would eat this every day if it gave me everything I needed and I didn't have to cook.
>>215044647>buy quick oats>one cup into cereal bowl>pinch of salt>add water til it covers oats>microwave high one minute>stir in one scoop whey protein powder and 1/4 cup yogurt, a little milk if you wantThat's ~600 calories, 53g complete protein, and a decent chunk of your daily requirement of fiber plus every mineral and micronutrient except B3 and folate. It even looks like it
>>215045032Tell me moreWhere do I get the B3 and folate?What flavor protein powder?
>>215045236any flavor you want
>>215045236take a multi-vitamin
>>215045236>What flavor protein powder?I mean whatever flavor you like anon, it all tastes pretty sickly sweet to me but it's fuel, not fine dining. I usually go with vanilla or strawberry powder and blueberry yogurt>Where do I get the B3 and folate?A handful of baby spinach now and then, or microwave a cup of broccoli in a covered bowl with a 1/4 cup of lightly salted water, once or twice a week and you'll be fine. The oats thing is a great breakfast but it gets repetitive as fuck if you have to eat it 3 meals a day, but there's all sorts of cheap zero effort Bachelor Chow type recipes out there. Like boil a pot of water with a tbsp of salt, add 10 frozen potato-cheddar perogies, once they start to float throw in a cup or two of frozen peas-carrots mix, let it come back to a boil then strain, dump into a bowl, pepper and ketchup to taste - bam, 630 calories, 23 grams protein, 30% daily fiber etc, it's literally four actions
>>215045503>ketchup to taste>on perogies and vegtablesYou can stop giving culinary and nutrition advice now, anon.
>>215045652>You can stop giving culinary and nutrition advice now, anon.Negro I am literally giving Bachelor Chow recipes, stuff that takes five minutes to make and keeps cooklets aliveThe anon I'm replying to expressed a desire to live on Matrix gruel. We're not exactly making Beef Wellington here
>>215039815>Would I still be fat in the Matrix?Kek I never thought of that. What about if you're a cripple in the Matrix, how long before your Matrix avatar stops limping around? Or even worse blind or something?
Never really got the steak thing, what is keeping them from eating their grey slop for sustenance and then logging into the Matrix for some fine dining? It might be fake but it tastes real.
>>215035062Protein from single-celled organisms, ESL-kun.
>>215039572>Even if you don't eat food you still poop eventually. Over half of your feces is made up of dead bacteria and old blood cells.I was very surprised at this when I broke my jaw and had to eat liquids for a few weeks.
>>215037200It's like that feeling when you're on the last days of your holiday and know that you have to go back to your shit job. Cypher wanted a permanent holiday.
>>215045782It's the struggle in life that generates energy for the matrix, so probably: you just simply can't get the stuff that matters to you.
>>215045867>it's a single-carpark car>it's a single-case bottlewow that makes a lot of sense
>>215039617>photosynthesis without the sunyou can have it without the sun with various artificial tools. Iirc it's never talked about in any of the canon but easy to imagine the machines having giant glasshouses and underground forests to cultivate o2 for their human batteries. It's a good point though, I hadn't thought of that at all.
>>215034407Alternatively>YOU WILL HAVE THE GOO INJECTED INTO YOU>YOU WILL LIVE IN THE GOO>YOU WILL NEVER SEE>YOU WILL EXIST IN OBLIVION>AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
>>215039550wow that is an uncanny likeness, or at least it is on camera. He even has the acne scars or whatever right.
>>215045807Cypher's using the steak as an example of how he can't stand knowing the horrible truth any more and wants to go back to the comforting lieHe's not very smart because he didn't consider the obvious, namely that the machines have absolutely zero incentive to keep any deal with him
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>>215039860>2 weeksA few years ago I had some weird constipation, didn't manage to shit for 12 days. Mostly it was uncomfortable but it constantly ate at me that all that food wasn't getting evacuated, eventually stopped eating at all near the end even though it probably just made things worse. Can't imagine that being my regular poop schedule.
>>215046052you keep repeating this even after you've been debunked a hundred times. That doesn't make it true.
>>215046160NTA, wdym? We have no way of knowing if the machines would have kept up their end of the deal or not, they have no reason to go either way on this, Cypher is insignificant but it's the same cost to them to give him a movie star life or a hobo life.
>>215046085He was fos btw. What was it like when the dam finally broke?
>>215046085after the first few days, you should've gotten some laxative from the store
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>>215046160>youI don't know who you're talking about>>215046193It's pretty obvious>uh so after I betray all my friends and you kill every single one of them, you'll pick me up, take me to the nearest pod cluster, hook me in, erase my memory (if you can do that) and reinsert me into this simulation as a billionaire, and not just also kill me on the spot which would be much simpler, given that nobody will ever know any of this happened either way?
>>215043199do you really want to get into the utter state of us 'food'?
>>215046271because if you pay attention to the lore, the machines always kept their word.
>>215034432>we know there are multiple simulations in the matrix world (there are training programs, constructs, and the machine's matrix itself)>the heroes just assume that the "real world" isn't just another matrix used as a safety valve for rebellious humansThey're probably all still in vats, and the ones that "unplugged" have to deal with shitty food and existential dread, but they get to kungfu fight in slow motion so that's cool at least
>>215046231I did get laxative, also tried prune juice, dates etc before that. Didn't work for some reason, doctor sent me to get scanned for some kind of stomach obstruction but the day before my appointment I finally shat. I'd have seen a doctor before that but I lived like an hour away from the nearest one and he was always overbooked....countrylife.jpg>>215046224fos?It was great, not so much the actual shitting but the mental relief that I was going to be OK. Spent almost a year after that paranoid that I'd get constipated again and overall just ate better in fear of it.
>>215046363fos = full of shitI didn't mean "were you relieved," I mean, what was it like, physically? Like, an 8 foot log or 30 minutes of explosive pudding, etc.
>>215046271>much simplerHow do you know it would be simpler? We have no idea how the machines run the world besides the few rogue machines we see and the overall agent security squads.Really no reason to believe it's any different for the machines to make him rich or poor. I think ultimately Cypher had thought about this and was ready to risk it, anything was better than his Matrix life.
>>215046271A very human solution
>>215046400Ohhh ok never saw that used before.Weirdly enough it was just like a normal shit, except I had to shit like seven times that day and everytime it'd be like my usual morning shit in volume and effort exerted.Biggest shit I ever had was after devastating a brunch buffet the day before when I was 13 on holiday. Pushed for like two full minutes non-stop and it was like one long brown snake, only time in my life I thought it might be worth taking a photo of it. Had to break it apart and flush it down little by little. Epic.
>>215034254Looks like soggy Corn Pops to me
>>215046416>How do you know it would be simpler?>Sentinels get inside Morpheus' sewer ship>Choice A: Kill everyone on board, job done>Choice B: Kill everyone on board but make sure you don't kill one specific guy, then pick the meatbag up and extract him from the ship without killing him, then carry him safely to the nearest pod cluster with an empty pod, then hook him up to that pod, then (if possible) erase his memories, then code him a new identity inside the simulation where he's rich and doesn't remember that he made any sort of deal with anybody, and none of the bluepills would ever know eitherThe outcome of both options is functionally the same, but one takes a lot more effort and risk for absolutely no possible benefit. >>215046420>A very human solutionYou'd think the machine would always go for the most efficient solution, which in this case would be just to kill everyone they need killed>>215046333>because if you pay attention to the lore, the machines always kept their word.If they're wiping out the resistance then there's no incentive to keep their word. Nobody will ever know if they did or not.
>>215034254if it contains everything the body needs, what the issue? just because you can't overeat and stuff your face like a fat slob, doesn't mean its bad
>>215046513How did the machines know what soggy Corn Pops tasted like?
>>215040195KINO pic
>>215046564If Cypher was willing to betray humanity to the machines once and all he wanted in return was a coding change, he would be willing to do it again. He might be useful in the future, reason enough to keep him
>>215046694>He might be useful in the future, reason enough to keep himBut the point was that all the resistance people would be killed and Cypher's memory would be erased, making him just another bluepill who you couldn't even use as a future example of your trustworthiness, not that you'd need an example because again everyone in Zion would be deadOr you just kill him on the spot along with everyone else and save yourself pointless trouble
>>215034260It really ruined the scene for me to find out the actor just spit it out and chewed on some mushroom or something instead because he's a vegan faggot.
>>215046564oh mb I was only thinking of the coding part of reinserting Cypher into the Matrix and not the actual extraction of his physical body. Yeah in that sense it does make more sense for the machines to just kill them all. It even serves them more long-term for Zion to have no way of knowing how they were found vs risking a Zionite coming across an ad for a Cypher movie in the subway and realizing they were betrayed and it could happen again (assuming they don't change his appearance).
>>215046912They should have made it some decadent pastry instead to avoid that. Also I like that better than steak.
>>215040866the matrix is Plato's cave. It is not hard or a new concept. The brothers didn't even understand Baudrillard and the movie has little to do with his work beyond this faux book.
>>215047212Yeah man, go around and tell people that the matrix is Plato's cave, I'm sure they'll understand wtf you are talking about.
>>215047060>vs risking a Zionite coming across an ad for a Cypher movie in the subway and realizing they were betrayed and it could happen again (assuming they don't change his appearance).Shit I never even considered that part. Unless the machines are 100% sure of wiping out every single human and not one ship or outpost surviving anywhere, leaving Cypher alive also carries the risk of a survivor seeing him and inferring what happened
>>215044273>>215044389Spot on. The internet is essentially a second enlightenment for us. It is a crazy revolution in media, similar to the Printing Press back in the day.TV and Radio, and Movies are all centralised forms of information distribution. There were huge costs of entry; you needed hundreds of thousands of dollars and tons of staff to produce a news show or radio show, thus, it was only embraced by corporate interests and the wealthy. They had a tight grip on what information was given to us.However, with the internet now, any retard with a cell phone can upload anything he wants and make it go viral. It is completely decentralised. There are no hurdles to jump through. Add in our ability to comment and share information with ease, and it has become the ultimate form of communication for the plebs.Propaganda doesn't work anymore. We are being given all sorts of different perspectives and narratives constantly, not just what they want us to see.I saw something a long time ago that blew my mind in this regard. Hillary Clinton made a typical bullshit Twitter post talking about how Trump is a fascist dictator, and the top comment was just some random anonymous dude calling her out for being a murderer. Not only that, but thanks to the social media system, I could see that ~117K people saw, liked and agreed with that post. That level of undermining of a powerful and wealthy Establishment figure was not possible ten years ago.You see this all the time with the corporate press: people are still stuck in this old mindset of old media propaganda, and will blatantly lie without realising we can fact-check them in real-time. Look at Stephen King's Tweet the other week about Kirk wanting to stone gays. Every single reply was calling him out for misinformation. In the old days, if he went on TV and said that, the lie would travel around the world unabated. Now, people can call him a liar to his face, and everyone can see it in overwhelming numbers.
>>215034392Counting calories is the easiest shit shut up BITCH
>>215047912People just want to shove any and all "food" into their mouths and only care if it tastes good or not. You mention math or thinking ahead and their eyes immediately glaze over. It's funny and sad to watch
>>215047779Read McLuhan, start with The Gutenberg Galaxy to understand the world created by the printing press and how it differs from the current electronic age. You should know that every new medium takes the previous medium as it's content. YouTube is the proof of this and it is the internet taking television/film as its content. Although the internet is all consuming so it grabs everything.Then read some elite theory and it will become clear that power always centralizes. The wild west of the internet is over. Just like how the printing press was used by individual pamphleteers to start a revolution but was soon captured by the powers that be so too has the internet been captured.The best early days on the net are gone and we live in the cities and suburbs that occur in the closing of a frontier.
>>215042162you think that's cum you're dinking?
>>215047779It gets even wilder if you read Understanding Media. The basic concept is that people come to think in a way that resembles how their dominant source of information works. Like the procession from newspapers to telegraphs to radios to movies to TV all saw, technologically, more and more concentrated points being able to reach farther and farther distances, which not coincidentally saw the rise of more and more powerful and centralized political authority, because That's How The World Works. Of course it's intuitive to the TV Generation that DC runs the country down to an absurd amount of detail when all their news and entertainment came from NY or LA.For digital natives, it makes no sense. Their interaction with media is two-way and decentralized, everyone interacting with everyone from thousands of places, both broadcasting and receiving, 100% of the time.Stephen King's a perfect example of someone formed by old media getting smashed by new media. Boomer hears thing, thing must be true, boomer repeats thing. >>215048042>that power always centralizes.I disagree, I think power always used to centralize until the intertubes. Now two-way media is everywhere and uncensorable. Their desperate attempts to try to make it censorable aren't going to work either, like when they were floating Disinformation Boards and got savaged by everyone under the age of 50, or trying to put TikTok under Israeli control which will inevitably just create a new TikTok for politicsWe're now in a unique point of history where all the technological-political-cultural momentum of basically entire recorded history just got reversed in a generation and nobody knows what's going to happen nowThe only thing I can think of them doing is just flooding the zone with AI slop until the elderly demand censorship so they can know what to think, but then you just get more decentralized warfare (random shootings/stabbings/bombings etc)
>>215039550>tfw I sometimes go aura-farming in public like this, but in my car, blasting synth grunge goth rock while wearing sunglasses
>>215047990This is how all animals operate and have operated for millions of years, it's only now that there's such an abundance of food and dearth of physical activity that counting calories matters
>>215048294>an abundance of foodit's really the quality and calorie density that's changed. Highly processed foods that don't fill the body's needs, don't satiate hunger, but are extremely high calorie. Very easy to get 3000+ calories daily on foods you've been led to believe should be consumed regularly
>>215045236>What flavor protein powder?Don't fall for something that sounds good or something you like, unironically pick the thing that you would never touch in your daily life
>>215034407FUCK YOU MORPHEUS PLUG ME BACK INAlso you forgot:>YOU WILL GO TO RAVES WITH ONLY BIPOC
>>215048042I will check out those books, thanks!>YouTube is the proof of this and it is the internet taking television/film as its contentThat's true. The internet is basically an evolution of TV. We call them podcasts because the name just stuck, but they are essentially TV news shows.>The wild west of the internet is over. It's a shame, but I think we can get back to that spot. It will take a lot of effort, though.>so too has the internet been captured.Yeah, 100%. We saw with the Twitter files and Zuckerberg, and even YouTube, recently talking about how the FBI and government would strongarm them into censoring things they don't like.The powers that be will do anything to take control of the internet, but honestly, I don't think they will ever control it fully. It is far too decentralised at this point. That ship has sailed. They will try with things like digital IDs, but no one wants that.>>215048193I will read that too, cheers!>The basic concept is that people come to think in a way that resembles how their dominant source of information works.That is very interesting. I know that language obviously changes the way you think, and I expected their behaviour to change (like with Stephen King), but I have never thought about the way they perceive the world changing.I wonder if you will notice the way generations deal with politics change. For example, millennials and Zoomers might have an inherent preference for a decentralised government based on their experience with the internet, whereas the opposite for Boomers? Time will tell, I guess.>or trying to put TikTok under Israeli controlThis is an important point. In previous generations, our perception of wars was fed to us through the lens of the media. We saw what they wanted us to see, which led to support. It was disconnected from us.Now, we have Palestinians uploading raw footage of what is happening on the ground directly to X, and people now reject the idea of war. It's a powerful change.
>>215034507That's gotta be awkward when they're plugged in>Cypher, Trinity made a shitty mess in the chair again because she was plugged in for more than 2 hours and couldn't hold it. It's your job to clean it upFucking ship janny, he does it for free
>>215048193>The basic concept is that people come to think in a way that resembles how their dominant source of information works.He borrows this from Harold Innis. If you have not yet read empire and compunctions you should it was one of the works that influenced McLuhan the most. In the work Innis argues that the different types of writing technology, be it papyrus, vellum, or books, influenced the structure of the empire.Honestly its Cybernetics 101 and I think reading Norbert Wiener should be paired with McLuhan. They are both talking about the same thing differently.>Now two-way media is everywhere and uncensorable.news papers were two way, you could write to the editor. radio was two way, radio call in shows, even a play can be two way where the audience interacts with the play.I don't think the Internet is appreciably different in its bi-directional nature. I think a percentage take advantage of it but a comment on a youtube video is not that different from a letter to the editor and when you look at how many people interact vs lurk you will find that the large majority still lurk and consume.>The only thing I can think of them doing is just flooding the zone with AI slop until the elderly demand censorship so they can know what to think, but then you just get more decentralized warfare The internet battle is part of the bread and circus machine. It is politics transformed into content. The more you are able to be consumed by the online fight the more you are disarmed.I think the occasional shooting is just the cost of doing business and I think the control of the internet is almost complete and centralized. How many people use an alternative website or hell even an old school BBS. The number is frighteningly small.That makes an elite for sure but an elite separated by space and time. If your elite is not unified they are useless. but maybe you are right, only time will tell, and part of me hopes you are correct. it would be far more interesting
>>215048363>For example, millennials and Zoomers might have an inherent preference for a decentralised government based on their experience with the internet, whereas the opposite for Boomers? Time will tell, I guess.Guaranteed. If Understanding Media is right, and I think it is, the 20th century model of government is the direct result of 20th century media technology, and all of that is out the window. Doubtless there are a dozen reasons, but I think one of the reasons Gen Z and Gen A are the most conservative generation in a century is just the basic mindset that having had the internet since birth will have to have produced.When all your information about the world comes from Tom Brokaw at 6 PM, and a New York newspaper in the morning, it's perfectly logical that the First Lady gets to decide what a kid in Kansas eats at the school cafeteria. To an internet native, what the fuck? Imagine having the minutiae of your life regulated by some distant person who's never even read one of your comments in the chat>Now, we have Palestinians uploading raw footage of what is happening on the ground directly to X, and people now reject the idea of war. It's a powerful change.That's another great thing in Understanding Media - MacLuhan said whenever a new media form supplants the old, two things happen, namely censorship of the old media relaxes, and there's a war that "resembles" the new media. Typed telegraphs replacing written letters lead to World War I, where all the colorful regimental uniforms of the Napoleonic era were replaced by identical grey or brown, movies lead to the absolute blockbuster productions of World War II, Vietnam and Iraq were as made-for-TV as you could imagine, and all also reflected technology increasing the reach of points of broadcast, going from generals directly watching battles to Iraq being run in realtime from the Pentagon. Now everything's everywhere all at once, so no Pearl Harbor but lots of random shootings/stabbings/bombings.
>>215035062A chicken egg is a single-celled proteinSo is algae. But the canon is that it's actually fungus
>>215048517>news papers were two way>radio was two wayNo, you could ask to be able to share a message through their point of broadcast/publishing through their technological reach to their audience of content consumers, and if they wanted to they could, but the control was theirs. The internet's different, everyone is both a broadcaster and a consumer to some degree>That makes an elite for sure but an elite separated by space and time. If your elite is not unified they are useless.It's going to be wild, especially as LLM-based instant translation breaks down all the linguistic barriersWhich if you've read Language In Thought And Action by Hayakawa is a mindfuck beyond belief. We're going to have realtime communication from people with genuinely different thinking patterns based on the structures of their mother tongues, which is why certain entire concepts don't translate precisely from one language to another, with the meaning being inferred by disembodied non-consciousnesses and served up as a precise translation to people without really any way to check, oh man it's going to get fucking weird>empire and compunctionsJust stole a copy, thank you Anon for the reccomendation and libgen for infinity free books
