How do i know if acting is good or not?
you have to measure how big the screen is and see where their noses are pointed and how far away it is from the edge of the screen.
If you stop thinking you are watching a movie is good acting
What if Leo is really just like this?
I refuse to watch any movie with this piece of shit in it
>>215035347He's an A-Lister anon
>>215035310How can I do that when I know that movies are just forms of control and that literally every person I speak with is either a government agent or a tulpa or takwin or AI (like you)?
watch movies
>>215035351good thing he does one movie per year
>>215035287hans landa and leo in django are the only good tarantino characters (so of course they had to be put through humiliation rituals)
when the actor BECOMES the character
>>215035287>How do i know if acting is good or not?If you're asking that means you'll never understand.
>>215035287 You need to see a good actor, a normal actor, and a bad actor in the same show or movie to understand. My wife was watching a shitty low budget Australian tv show called the Gloaming the other day which had pic related in it, every time he was on screen I could see a man who was thinking and reacting to what was happening around him, and every scene he was in was the best in the show. In the same show was a diversity hire Aboriginal actor playing a police chief, busting the balls of the main characters. All it was was a man standing stiffly and reading lines he'd been told to say. Every other actor was totally fine, like 90% of all performances you've ever seen. You have to see all three together to properly get it.
you refer to the character's name when talking about the movie, rather than the actor"Travis wants to kill the candidate to impress people around him" "DiCaprio's character is crazy and unhinged"DiCaprio is a horrible actor
>>215035450his role as Arnie Grape is the gold standard for low functioning autists
>>215035347He's fine as a leading man in something like inception but whenever he actually has to act I just see Leo Dicaprio shouting and trying too hard to be a "serious actor". It's especially noticeable when he's in a scene with a better actor and it always breaks my immersion. I don't get why gets so much praise. He peaked with Gilbert grape.
>>215035347Based. I also don't watch this cunt's movies because he's a blatant globohomo mouthpiece. >>215035356He is a tulpa.
>>215035347what makes him a piece of shit?
>>215035504>I don't get why gets so much praiseBecause a movie with him has a very high chance to be good. That's also the reason why he is one of the few actors who always bring people in theaters.
>>215035441A good counter example of this is Jennifer Lawrence in American Hustle. Everyone is acting circles around her, she looks like a kid dressed as an adult in every scene.Another two, Sofia Copolla in Godfather 3 and Keanu Reeves in Dracula. Goddamn those are bad.
>big booba>big bundagood acting>small booba>small bundabad acting
>>215035287Watch Deniro in Deer hunter and remember he's a piece of shit and just how good he is disappearing from being a piece of shit and becoming this force of nature in that movie.
>>215035287In Leo's case it's simple, he has two faces, smiling kid and HHHHHNNNGGG I'M ACTING which looks like he trying to take a huge shit. Being either happy or mad all the time is not acting. Daniel Radcliff does that too, but he seems aware and honest about it that's why imo he improved his skills in the last years, while Leo only amped up his performances.
>>215035287if it gets your attention it's goodif it feels off-putting or out of place it's badif it evokes no strong emotions it's just ok
>>215035317He is. Just like how Tom Cruise was really like Lestat.
>>215035287Acting is like editingWhen you see the bad stuff you immediately notice it
>>215036096Anon should start by watching Neil Breen.
>>215035310I'd word it differently>If it breaks your inmersion, it's bad actingNot breaking it does not necessarily make it good>>215035356Meds>>215035450Highly situational. Specially if its a well known actor. Not a good measure. Picrel
>>215035450Sometimes, you got remember some actors are also huge celebrities so it's hard to separate their personas from their characters, or sometimes they do one character so well people go "oh that movie where Hannibal Lecter is actually a nice grandpa". Both Gary Oldman and Willem DaFoe are amazing actors but we usually use their names instead of their characters. Still, you are not wrong most of the times.
>>215035347Same. He's insufferable.
>>215035287"Movie magic" literally happens.It doesn't even have to be a movie. It could be actors on a stage with a crappy cardboard set and cheap props. As some fag above said, you start to believe it on some level, and start to feel the feels, whether it's laughing, crying, or whatever.Particularly cool when a well-known actor can become a character and make you forget who he is the rest of the time, and that has less to do with costumes and make up, and them tricking your brain with subtleties like a magician does with misdirection.Good example, Philip Seymour Hoffman looks like he's worn that outfit all his life, and he actually is that guy:https://youtu.be/lQfSRcnd8iY?t=259If you look close enough you can see what he's doing with posture and mannerisms and the actor inside doing it on purpose, (techniques and methods), but if you met him in the street you wouldn't question it for a millisecond. He's a socially awkward, fashion-challenged bankfag from 80's Canadia with a gambling addiction.No big budget. No flashy camerawork. No fancy effects. Just good old fashioned 'le acting'. The ill-fitting suit, hair, and rapist glasses are just the icing on the cake, awesome in themselves, (good wardrobe fags are equally 'le artists'), but his mannerisms and overall bearing are what really sells it at the end of the day.What amazes me having been around actors is how much of this subtle shit they notice when they meet people. Their natural talent is to notice this shit and learn from literally every person they meet. Like they meet and introverted sperg, they can learn to emulate an introverted sperg just by being around them and watching how they behave.Not a talent I have, or one I could even learn if I tried I suspect, but I've been around it enough to see it in action. You'd probably be shocked to learn how much actors who have met you are integrating the quirks of rando fags - including literally (You) - into their performances.
>>215035287just ask /tv/
One good example is Ed Norton in Birdman, the scene where the stage actors are rehearsing and ACTING, he goes on stage and the quality of his acting is very very obvious because of the direct contrast.
>>215036001I’ve seen her butthole.
>>215036565One of the best examples of great acting and also one of the few times Norton put out some effort in the last years. He also did an insane job in Kingdom of Heaven, the character is 99% covered and barely moving during the whole movie and still he infuses different emotions in each scene.
>>215035504Leo excels at full retard.
>>215036001jlaw is such an atrocious performer it's unreal. 80% of hunger games is her gaping openmouthed at something happening
>>215036813What is worse that is despite being just an YA action movie they have got an A-tier cast, fuck they even had Philip Seymour Hoffman and Jefrey Wright, those guys are heavy hitters. All Jlaw does is take deep breaths and scream during these movies, it's uncanny.
>>215036001>Keanu Reeves in Draculahis dog shit performance is probably the reason why i'll never rewatch that film again
I think the comments here have pretty much got it. I used to think it was just about "range" in the Johnny Depp style. This crazy accent is different from that crazy accent, wow, what a great actor. Now I think it is more about immersion and how you and your fellow actors play off each other.https://observer.com/2018/09/film-crit-hulk-keanu-reeves-and-good-acting/
>>215037057>Now I think it is more about immersion and how you and your fellow actors play off each otherThat's pretty important and can be quite hard, specially in movies. It's insane for example that Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins barely interacted with each other in Silence of the Lambs, it was mostly them talking to the camera according to Foster, and you can't notice, however in that case kudos for the editing/directing team too for putting everything together.
>>215037057That's a pretty good article, worth a read.
>>215035287im not good at spotting bad acting either, i can never tell if someone's a good actor or not. i think im retarded.
What's some good acting in a movie that sucks?
>>215035287Is that a jojo reference?
>>215035287The widespread lie is that good acting is equivalent to realistic acting. This isn't true. Watch a documentary, watch news footage, watch hidden camera shows and you'll see that 'realistic' actions aren't cinematic or engaging. People are kind of cringey and lame when they're experiencing strong emotion most of the time. Especially grief and despair.Good acting is way simpler than that. It's just being entertaining. Does the actor make you want to see more of them? Do they evoke an emotion from you? Do you understand and emphasise with their feelings?When DDL goes on a rant about hating the Irish in Gangs of New York, even Irish people love watching it because he delivers the speech in such a powerful and charismatic way that draws you in. When Leo talks about being a drug addicted sex addict who's constantly committing terrible financial crimes in TWOWS, he doesn't sound like a cringey cretin going through a mid life crisis to cope with not getting laid as a teenager, he comes across as this thoroughly entertaining juggernaut that millions of people idolised. When Idris Elba tells an army of literal children to go fight and die in a largely pointless war in Beasts of No Nation, you aren't disgusted by the character's vile actions, you're drawn in fixated on what he'll do next.Good acting is just being so entertaining that the audience wants to see what they'll do next.
>>215035287Their voice. A well trained voice is 90% of acting. Modern nepo baby actors are shitty actors because they don't need to train their voices because of advanced microphones. Meanwhile classically trained stage actors of the 20th century trained their vocal cords so well that they could give eloquent speeches night after night for 20 years.Listen to the voices of>John Gielgud>Peter O'Toole>Richard Burton>Charles Laughton>Patrick Stewart>Laurence OlivierAnd so many others
>>215037367There are loads of examples. Two off the top of my head are Anne Hathaway in The Idea of You and Nicole Kidman in Babygirl. Gyllenhaal in Okja also springs to mind.
>>215035287you start clapping
>>215035287Django Unchained was so overrated. The only good thing was the dentist guy and he dies 2/3's in
>>215035287If it looks like they are legitimately experiencing the emotion they are attempting to portray and if the way they do it fits into the scene. However there are other ways to be "good" as well, for instance I would say Nick Cage is "good" because he's entertaining and charismatic even if he's not really selling emotions
Every second post in this thread is just>muh realismYou people really are no different from redditors post-2020
>>215035372>hans landa and leo in django are the only good tarantino charactersInglourious Basterds doesn't have a single good character. Waltz character in Django is better than Monsieur Candy. Tarantino's best written characters are Mr. Pink, Ordell and Cliff.
>>215036813Katniss should've been Kaya Scodelario
>>215037367Willem Dafoe in the American Death Note movie
>>215035774He's Leonardo DiCaprio
>>215036023based
>>215037367Pattinson in tenet. Nic Cage in like half of his movies.
>>215035310>>215036302Nah, you idiots are describing a good movie, not just good acting. You can have an amazing acting performance and shit audio will immediately break immersion. To forget you are watching a movie everything has to come together.
>>215036493Perfectly said. I think Tom Cruise’s role as Vincent in Collateral is another example of this.
>>215036023More flat tomboys for me, faggot.
>>215035287acting ability is inversely proportional to the number of women and brown people in the film.
>>215035287If I like it then it’s good.
>>215035774Roasties are mad they aged out of his dating pool.
>>215037509I like this school of thought
>>215036001coppola wanted johnny depp for that role. would've been so much better
>>215036026Yeah with someone like De Niro it's easy. Taxi Driver is my favorite movie. But Leo is a hack so it's much more difficult.
>>215037367https://youtu.be/w96oTapYTKkAshton should've got an oscar for this tbqh.
>>215035310This is how you know DDL never gave a good performance his entire career. Always immersion breaking and taking you out of the film.
He helped kill PTA's career, so he's alright with me.
>>215040222Deonardo Di Laprio? o.0
>>215035287Was it kino? If it was kino it probably had good acting.
>>215037411Imagine his stand is a white pharaoh with a whip
>>215035382Can you imagine this guy doing this shit and whatshisname trying to sell this kind of character with Heath Ledger still alive? I can't.
>>215035504He works in the Revenant. Wacky that he's the one who was praised for it, though, when it's such a director's movie.
>>215041217The Revenant was an apology oscar for not giving it to him for The Basketball Diaries, The Aviator, Blood Diamond or The Wolf of Wall Street. Plus there was a long campaign about how he physically endured all this literal pain and hardship for the role to make it authentic.
He's alright.
>>215041122kek
>>215035287Actors should be tools in a toolbox that an expert can trick into being used more than one way. Instead it's like hey I need this tool and this tool and whatever else I can find and your toolbox is like no this tool doesn't want to be a hammer anymore, this tools now costs fifty million to use, and the powers that be are demanding you take this chisel and use it as your flat head screwdriver for the next few projects It's a miracle anyone ever made a good movie tbqhwyf
are you indian? It's beyond your comprehension.
>>215041264Not to be that guy but I never heard about him doing anything worse than what you get in military training and peacetime service. I mean. Yes, yes I am that guy if you're not into this apparently agonizing method acting then don't do it faggot
Worst acting I saw was elizabeth berkley in one of her movies, the entire film was literally her wrinkling her forehead to express any emotion
>>215035287Usually I consider good acting to be when you forget that they're acting. When you forget that the words they're saying were written 2 years ago, edited by multiple people, practiced and rehearsed, and they're currently on take 7 of the scene. If the words sound natural, then it's probably pretty good acting.
>>215037367https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOJQPi9q8aE
>>215038566>Thread about acting>AKSHUALLY THE AUDIOWhat a dumbass
>>215038566Movies had no audio to shit audio for at least 60 years and still had good acting.
>>215035287Look at the actor's social media posts and see if his opinions align with yours or not.
>>215038574Yeah, basically the way my life turned out I'm literally surrounded by actors. Wouldn't have been my first choice, but it has been a learning experience, and interesting to watch them in action on and off the stage and screen.I think like any art you can boil it down to the natural ability combined with the techniques passed down in the trade.The former you either have it or you don't, the latter can be learned. I find a lot of that shit interesting, whether it's putting a rock in your shoe to remember to effect a limp on that leg, or substituting one type of action for another.>eg. If you want to look like a spastic, try to turn one of your feet backwards, try to use one of your hands to touch that same elbow, and try to bite one of your own ears.The effect is uncanny, and you can do a lot of shit like that in that kinda way.One of the things I saw recently was about how Michael Chiklis in the final episode of 'The Shield' thought about his actual experiences during the series to help with the long hesitation before he started speaking during the 'confession' scene. Not as easy as he makes it look of course, but pretty cool.Basically I think it comes down to nuance, and the finer and finer it gets the better. Like the difference in bad and good is like Jim Carey in 'Man In the Moon' during the Elvis impersonation scene. The audience scoffs at the first attempt as 'bad' because it has no nuance, but applauds the second because it has so much:https://youtu.be/dLtXG4Y2h4g?t=147Kind of ironic that Carey is playing Kaufman, playing a character, impersonating Elvis. At worst this Jim Carey's serious 'le acting' comes off like you're watching Jim Carey playing a character, which is an example of another problem and type of 'bad' acting. But you've also seen situations where an actor plays a character, playing a character, playing a character, and you can see every single nuanced Inception level of it all the way down - and that shit's impressive.
>>215035287fag actor says exceptional nigga, tossed award.
>>215035287dicaprio has never been a good actor, he just took his childhood rapings in the proper way and never squealed, so he's been rewarded. his time is probably running out.
>>215037367daniel day lewis in gangs of ny
>>215038574awesome role, good movie
