>finally.. i can le go invisible>doing so immediately broadcasts your location to Sauron and immortal ghosts with poisoned blades
Finally, i can sneak into the elves hot-spring bathing rituals
>>215036880WRONG, the ring doesn't make you invisible you retarde bug, it amplifies your power, since hobbits didn't have any power, they can only go invisible
>>215036932What would happen to Boromir if he used it then?
>>215036932Isildur went invisible and he was no hobbit
>>215036939Turn into a nazgul-like entity I reckon
>>215036939Ultra powered death
>>215036902Worth it>>215036932Headcanon that doesn't make sense
>>215036939He'd be able to chew 5 gums
>>215036932WRONG, the ring transports you to the realm of spirit, which is why frodo sees the wraiths in their true form when he puts it onOP is ragebaiting in every other aspect of his post though
>>215036939He would turn invisible
>>215036932This is the most retarded bullshit retards say about Lord of the Rings and they aren't even trolling. The entire fanbase thinks this is true. They are retarded.
>>215036932It shifts mortals into the spirit world, which is why the Nazgul can sense them when mortals wear it. It didn't turn Sauron or Bombadil invisible because as Maiar, they already partially exist in the spirit world.
>>215036880Wow, who would have thought an evil ring of power does evil tricky shit
>>215037000To be fair it doesn't really make sense in lore either, how would Gandalf become an all powerful being if all the ring did was make him invisible? nonsense
>>215036880What happens if you keister the ring?
>>215037020this, Tolkien was a HACK
>>215036981I don't think any of these freaks are baiting. This is just what the conversations around this shit are.Retards who only watched the movie think the ring just makes you invisible and don't understand the significance of the ring or any of the worldbuilding.Then redditors show up to tell everyone that the ring amplifies your powers so that's why hobbits turn invisible.This has been the conversation surrounding LoTR for 20 years.
>>215037020I can imagine that the ring can act as a powerful catalyst in the hands of a mage like Gandalf or Sauron, but what's the use case for a normal dude?
>>215036943But why would you even want that
>>215036939He'd revamp Gondors tax policy
>>215037000>>215037005>>215037034it doesnt help that the movies dont really sell the ringwraiths as invisible. if you hadnt read the books you might assume they were shadow men made of darknessin the books the link between the invisible wraiths and the ring making frodo/bilbo invisible is much more easily understood
having the ring feels like you're on crack cocaine while a model blows you
>>215037040>use case for a normal dudeInvisibility
>>215037051You don't, but the ring lies to you with promises of power so that it can return to its only true master
>>215037053What fucked everything up is that Tolkien answered one fan mail and he said that the rings were made to amplify the traits of the creatures they were given to. He clearly meant that the rings that were given to kings were specifically made for them.The Tolkien fans took that fan mail and they completely misinterpreted it to mean that if you put on the one ring (not the ring he was talking about in the letter) then the ring is like a smart ring that scans your stats and picks the strongest stat and amplifies it. That has been the accepted interpretation for as long as internet has existed. The people running the LoTR sites have canonized it.
>>215037099the one ring is meant to be worn only by sauron, no? If so it makes sense it would have little to no effect if worn by a mortal (other than the spirit sight thingy). Maybe another maia could try and amplify his power with it because magic but other than that even the movies make it clear that the LORD OF THE RING(s) is only Sauron himself
>>215036880it's basically a VPN
>>215036939actual answer:he would be given the power to achieve his desires, namely save his doomed kingdom and make his father proudhe would be given uncanny powers of persuasion and leadership, far sight, a clear strategic and analytical mind. he would be unmatchable in single combat, and his enemies would be gripped by supernatural fear when facing him. he himself would feel no fear. also he would turn invisible.it wouldn't be enough, of course. one of the reason's for sauron's extended build-up of military might was anticipating that the ring might end up held by gonder. he wanted to make sure even if that was the case his overwhelming strength could still win the day. not to mention he could always count on the ring betraying its bearer at the most crucial moment, so they could inevitably be reunited
>>215037240Tolkien didnt say that.
>>215037240>he would be given uncanny powers of persuasion and leadership, far sight, a clear strategic and analytical mind. he would be unmatchable in single combat,sounds like what the ring would whisper to you to make you wear it and alert Sauron
>>215037034>reading is redditAnother example of ESLs overusing reddit to the point it just means “white, native English speaker.”
>>215037034>>215037000>>215037053why would anyone want to have the ring if all it does is turning you invisible then?
>>215036939He would have defeated Sauron and become the King, don't fall for the Ranger's propaganda.
>>215037099Anon it’s the visions the ring gives to Samwise and Galadriel that canonized the idea the one ring amplifies whatever traits the wearer has.
>>215037318>>215037330theres no textual evidence that the ring wouldnt confer power on the bearer. it is the ring of power, after all. galadriel certainly thinks that it would, and nobody suggests she's just delusional.saurons primary powers were of dominance and organisation, so its likely the ring would help you influence people and wage war>>215037368see >>215037240
>>215037034Based, I hope we get 20 years more
>>215036880why didn't it draw the wraiths when Gollum used the ring?
>>215037437but galadriel was talking about herself, no? It makes sense that a magical being can try and wrestle the ring's power for themselves, but random human guy is just an insect by comparison
>>215037020It's the One Ring. It's explicitly stated it allows the wearer to control the other rings. Imagine if someone like gandalf had full control over the nazghouls?
>>215037473i don't think he ever did use it
>>215036880I swear this gets reposted every month, or am I going crazy?
>>215037484He used it all the time. The ghoul gang & Sauron were just 'busy' during those few hundred years.
>>21503698125 years later...But of course! This explained alot
>>215037477idk, maybe you're right. boromir wasn't quite a regular human albeit, and sauron definitely believes aragorn would be empowered by the ring.gandalfs final gambit hinges on bluffing that aragorn has claimed the ring and can directly challenge sauron, and has convinced the armies of gondor that they can win by military strategyif (in saurons mind) the ring was only tricking aragorn into believing he had this power, surely gandalf would not have taken part in such an obviously doomed mission
>>215038000I don't remember honestly, but Aragorn being augmented doesn't change the fact Sauron would strike at them regardless to take back his ring. He's just acting as bait. If anything I wonder why Sauron fails to realize that Aragorn in fact does NOT have the ring.
>>215038110>If anything I wonder why Sauron fails to realize that Aragorn in fact does NOT have the ring.because in saurons mind aragorn is acting exactly how somebody who had beaten the host of mordor and claimed the ring would acthe had sent out so many armies that any reasonable person would conclude that mordor must be almost undefended, and then he could reveal his final masterstroke
>>215037473Because that's a movie thing
>>215038246But can't he detect when someone actually uses the ring? At least the wraiths should be able to do so
>>215037368As opposed to what many retards ITT claim - although they are right in criticizing the "amplifies your abilities" headcannon - the ring symbolizes Power as viewed by someone whose religion professes humility and abnegation and whatnot. It only grants abilities or """"power"""" to its bearer in appearance while exacting a heavy toll. Always. Systematically.Just like Power, the ring is seductive and impressive but inevitably leads its bearers to ruin - except those who fight its temptation.It turned Gollum into a cave gooner, it alienated Isildur from his trusted allies and got him killed, it drove Sam away from his best friend who dived in the river to save his life in the previous movie.The point of the ring as a metaphorical token was also to highlight how some virtuous characters honorably overcame its temptation: Gandalf's caution, Galadriel's willpower and Aragorn's Gary Stu-tier pure fucking heart.And because a Christian wrote the story, he also left for weaker characters (sinners) like Boromir and Faramir that were duped by the ring's temptation a path of redemption to attain even greater honor after their fall.>powerlevels>whatif timelinesIt's really sad to see how many people miss the metaphorical significance of the ring and lose themselves in theorizing the objective historical outcomes of such and such accepting the ring. The point of the story is that it would suck no matter what.As a maia Sauron can't be killed. He's an eternal threat looming over the hearts of anyone who can potentially be seduced by it (everyone), like a satanic figure so evil that it willingly dissolves itself in its task of seducing and corrupting as many minds as possible.
in the first movie the nazgul are so pathetically incompetent, they had frogo and the ring within an arms reach and fucked it up multiple times. hell even i could probably escape them
>>215038452for nine of Sauron's top lieutenants possessing his vaunted Rings of Power, ancient kings having led thousands of men in battles and ruled successful realms both living and dead, they were utter trash. It should have taken an army of Elves plus Radaghast to drive them away and save Frodo (since Gandalf is imprisoned). Instead they're defeated by one unarmored ranger with a sword and torch, then outsmarted by one elf on a horse
>>215036880Its implied it may have done more than just mere invisibility for more powerful people. But for little hobbits it gave them invisibility.
>>215038581being a king doesn't mean you are a level 15 Fighter Mage bro
>>215038688Sauron thought it did or else he wouldn't have sent them out to fight with swords and nothing else. If they were supposed to just be leaders, then they'd have had an army of orcs, ghouls, and monsters to control.
>>215036932>Me when I spread misinformation
>>215038278i'm not surei know frodo putting it on in mordor instantly revealed himself to sauron but i think that was due to it being the seat of his poweri dont think it immediately gives sauron radar and it doesnt for the wraiths either, but the wraiths do see frodo as a shining beacon of lightin the books the wraiths track frodo through their network of spies and informants
>>215036939turn invisible and have strength n shiet
Was Sauron compensating for something?
>>215038581Aragorn has the strength of the kings of old, who could fight Sauron even when he had the Ring. Nazgul, who are mostly the shades of their former selves, are very much inferior to him.
the hobbits the hobbits the hobbits the hobbits
>>215038999>the place where orcs are produced is called "orcbank"Bravo Tolkien!
>>215038999lmao Rohan is such a shithole.
>>215038999>what should I name this tower where the final boss is located?>bad-badder!>I'm a genius
hobbits are sneaky and very quiet, the ring makes them disappear it amplifies their natural power. boromir was a great warrior, with the ring he would have unified mankind and led them towards a great war, probably against the orcs and later the easterners. galadriel with the ring would have enhanced her magic and beauty, making her the most powerful elf queen ever, calling back the elves from across the sea and enslaving all living things in middle earth to her will. the movies glossed over this, but it is explicitly stated in the books. the ring for the dwarves would give them great insight into manufacturing and industry, advancing them forward very quickly up a tech tree similar to our own over the past few centuries. the ring itself is sentient and is not under the control of sauron. the wiki will tell you it has part of sauron's essence but this was retconned later. originally the one ring was supposed to summon morgoth back into the world from the void he was cast into, so it is more like a portal to pure evil, with the wearer over time slowly turning into morgoth.this is why prolonged use of the ring causes physical transformations, and why the hobbits are so interesting to gandalf because of their natural resistance to this, as exampled by seamgol's ability to retain his original essence and extreme ability to resist wearing the ring permanently which is what it is designed to do for humans, dwarves and elves.
>>215036880so dont be invisible for very long and GTFO when your done with it
No.
So Sauron retrieved many of the Rings of Power he gave to the Dwarves. Seems like an oversight that he didn't give these to some other minions. His team of Nine human Ringlords and say Four Ringlords with Dwarf rings should have been able to dominate an Elven realm.
>>215037564>get a reminder of where the ring is at pretty much every day>it's been in one spot for decades with a retard that isnt really using itit was alot safer with Gollum than anywhere else
Put on ring, run behind the threat, unequip, slit throat. Profit?
>ISILDUR! Destroy the ring immediately! We only have 3,000 years until Sauron's return! There's no time to lose!
>>215039717i assumed they was race dependent
>>215039817if it spent that long in a river there's no reason they shouldnt have been able to throw it in the ocean besides an unwillingness to kick the can 10,000 years down the road
>>215039717I'm assuming those rings were race-specific. Sauron offered them back to the dwarves if they'd join him in finding the One Ring.
>>215039843>>215039870But the One ring could be used by any race??
>"The ring doesn't amplify your power" say book retards even though Tolkien himself said the ring would make Gandalf powerful enough to destroy Sauron.
>>215038000Boromir was a weak-minded man, even if he had high blood. He was mostly a fighter and not a ruler. I got the feeling he'd be corrupted by the ring before he was able to use it effectively. Denethor might have been able to wield it. Faramir was an introspective dude with no desire for conquest so he just didn't give a shit either way.I think if Aragorn or a Galdriel had claimed the ring they would have had the power to use it. Sauron was afraid of that. They would have wrecked Sauron's shit and then themselves turned into evil lords just like him.>tfw no evil mommy dom Cat Blanchett
>>215039717The rings are just means to dominate other races. No point in giving it to this minions, even if the ring would make them stronger (Sauron's army was already invincible even without rings).Sauron had already corrupted most kings and lords, he had no use for the rings anymore.
>whole thread writing leftist memes about why [headcanon] is wrong>yet literally nobody explaining why it makes people invisible sasuga danke
>>215038452Even in the books the nazgul didn't have a lot of practical 1v1 power. You could chase them off with burning torches. It was mostly fear. They couldn't even see in the real world. Just smell. The only direct confrontation was with the witch king during the siege of Gondor.
>>215039973>Sauron's army was already invincibleSauron was literally super afraid of one of the other leaders using the Ring against him and shitting his pants he'd be defeated due to that
>>215039923It's the fucking ruling ring, after all. It even changes size to fit different people.
>>215039923considering sauron made it, why should he have made it race specific? i dont think he was planning on losing it
>>215040008That's really dumb though. It should just work for Sauron's race and finger size. or dick size
>>215040038It's like a survival mechanism. It's a ring. It can't move on its own. But by ensnaring any sentient being that finds it it can eventually find its way back to its master if it gets lost.That's why it allowed itself to fall off when Bilbo showed up. It was tired of being stuck in Gollum's gooncave for half a century.
>>215039960>I think if Aragorn or a Galdriel had claimed the ring they would have had the power to use it.Tolkien actually wrote about the elven lords and the rings.Galadriel was sure she could defeat Sauron if she used the One Ring, as were the other bearers of the 3 rings, but they were also wise enough to understand that these believes were caused by the One Ring's influence.If they had used the One Ring they would have become great lords who would've created great kingdoms and amassed great, powerful armies capable of invading Mordor, but even if they won, the true winner would've been Sauron (or rather Sauron's influence through the One Ring) since they could only win by becoming cruel conquerors like him.
>>215039817this is just bullshit, sauron had it for 1800 years and didn't achieve anything during that time?
>>215039863>besides an unwillingness to kick the can 10,000 years down the roadthats literally why they didnt do italso they knew sauron was marshalling his armies and that they couldnt hope to stand against him by might alone. destroying the ring was the only way to truly break his power
>>215037051Why would you want to coom if it just makes you tired and sad?
>>215039960>Boromir was a weak-minded man, even if he had high blood. He was mostly a fighter and not a ruler.boromir doesnt get enough credit. he was charged by denethor to return with the ring at any cost. the fact he sided with the council at all shows that he was wise. and to be fair to denethor the fellowship's plan seemed completely insane from his perspective>I think if Aragorn or a Galdriel had claimed the ring they would have had the power to use it.more or less correct, though they still wouldnt have beaten sauron in a direct match of wills. per tolkein:>Sauron would not have feared the Ring! It was his own and under his will. Even from afar he had an effect upon it, to make it work for its return to himself. In his actual presence none but very few of equal stature could have hoped to withhold it from him. Of mortals no one, not even Aragorn.>Of the others only Gandalf might be expected to master him... Galadriel conceived of herself as capable of wielding the Ring and supplanting the Dark Lord. If so, so also were the other guardians of the Three, especially Elrond. But this is another matter. It was part of the essential deceit of the Ring to fill minds with imaginations of supreme power... In any case Elrond or Galadriel would have proceeded in the policy now adopted by Sauron: they would have built up an empire with great and absolutely subservient generals and armies and engines of war, until they could challenge Sauron and destroy him by force. >Confrontation of Sauron alone, unaided, self to self was not contemplated. One can imagine the scene in which Gandalf, say, was placed in such a position. It would be a delicate balance... If Gandalf proved the victor, the result would have been for Sauron the same as the destruction of the Ring; for him it would have been destroyed, taken from him for ever. But the Ring and all its works would have endured. It would have been the master in the end.
>>215039863All of Sauron’s thinking and Will was bent on finding it so he could return to a corporeal form. And his forces numbered well into the 6 figure numbers. No matter where you tried to put it he’d be able to have it retrieved.
>>215040278He achieved a lot though. Things move slowly in the ancient world. He brought low most of Middle Earth. Destroyed many kingdoms of Men, Dwarves, and Elves. He was on the verge of winning and only barely stopped by a Last Alliance of the mightiest remaining Human and Elven leaders clutching the victory. Since then, everything had steadily degenerated to a point where it wouldn't be possible to defeat Sauron at his height again.In Fellowship, they travel through millennia old ruins of ancient civilizations long ago destroyed by Sauron. They avoid the spookiest ones like Angmar, which was the Witch King's old realm.
>>215040389Unless you put it on an easily accesible cave and used it daily for 500 years like Gollum
>>215040379>It was part of the essential deceit of the Ring to fill minds with imaginations of supreme powerI like how the Ring tried this on Samwise by filling his head with visions of him as a heroic gardener, and Sam's just like "wait this is retarded" and kept going.
>>215038288You post like a fag.
>>215040439>They avoid the spookiest ones like AngmarSo here's a minor question I've never heard talked about. The barrow wights were implied to be evil spirits that snuck in from Angmar in later years. Now that Sauron and the witch king are gone, do they dissipate? Can you go plunder some barrows now for sweet booty and Numenorian weapons?
>>215037099>What fucked everything up is that Tolkien answered one fan mail and he said that the rings were made to amplify the traits of the creatures they were given to. That's in the text of the book itself. Try reading sometime, faggot>Did not Gandalf tell you that the rings give power according to the measure of each possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and to train your will to the domination of others. Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight is grown keener. You haveperceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise.
>>215040439I still don't buy it. 1800 years? get the fuck outta here.
>>215040170Finally someone with a brain
>>215036932you would have been a lot more effective with your bait if you remembered back to the first pages of the hobbit where Tolkien says that Hobbits do have a power to go unseen if they don't want to be seen (ie when a fat stupid noisy modern day human is around)
>>215036880Why do people pretend being invisible isn't a super weapon? If boromier could turn invisible he could probably kill like 100,000 orcs by himself. Just walk over to an enemy camp and start killing everyone how would they stop him exactly?
>>215040000That's doubly reason not to reissue his magic rings then, since the signature power of the One Ring is being able to dominate and control wielders of the other rings.
>>215040170Gandalf says pretty directly that if he used the ring, he would probably get rid of Sauron but be driven to impose a kind of strict order to Middle Earth to protect the weak that would end up looking exactly what Sauron's victory would have looked like.
>>215036939the ring would manipulate him into getting it to sauron, thats literally its one objective.
>>215039976read the thread retard
>>215036880I would use the ring to go invisible and then sneak into Frieren and Fern's rented room and raid their dirty laundry for sniffing
>>215039717I'm pretty sure the dwarf rings only give you jew powers. If he won the war he probably would have given them to accountant nazgul to develop his tax policy but during the war they were more useful for bartering with the dwarf king.
>>215036939Turn invisible and into a retard. He was already one half there, I don't know why he cared about the other half.
>>215040439is it me or the world looks really small?
>>215039817>Be Elrond>Know that Sauron will inevitably return as long as the ring exists>Do literally nothing for 3000 yearsMEN ARE WEAK
>>215036880The ring doesn´t make you invisible though. The ring is made out of Sauron, the deceiver, essence. For all intents and purposes it´s concentrated Sauron, it´s part of him. So what does the ring actually do? It DECEIVES people. IT.FUCKING.LIES. It promises the power one needs but it never actually delivers. I mean sure, it made Frodo invisible... except Sauron and his nazgul can see him and are even attracted to him so basically he is only invisible for the allies trying to protect him. It´s a trick, a bamboozle, a sham. Sauron is not called the deceiver for nothing you know.Furthermore it makes this promise to everyone to exploit their greed and isolate them. The more powerful the target the easier to exploit their ambition, isolate them and fester their paranoia. The only one that actually gets more powerful by using it is Sauron himself.
>possess The One Ring of Power>be giant gigachad human king at the height of humanity's power>still die like a little bitch to a couple level one orc jobbers on the side of the road
>>215043201>so basically he is only invisible for the allies trying to protect himexcept when it saves him from boromir who is having a melty trying to rape him
>>215043325HE SIMPLY WANTED TO BORROWMIR THE RING! HE IS NO THIEF!
>>215043055The seven rings were probably supposed to do the same thing as the nine, but Dwarves aren't natural beings and didn't react the way Sauron expected.
>>215043201>So what does the ring actually do? It DECEIVES people. IT.FUCKING.LIES. It promises the power one needs but it never actually delivers.Probably the stupidest part of the story. All the ring had to do was deliver decent power to Isildur or some other Human ruler, keep them in power and happy, and help them succeed over any others. Slowly over time corrupting them, whispering into their ears making them favorable towards Sauron and he plans. Turn their kingdom to the dark side, make them worshipers of Sauron, setting their entire kingdom to work towards the eventual return of Sauron. Then Sauron steps back into Middle Earth to a giant welcoming crowd cheering for him. Better than the ring getting itself lost for no reason and Sauron returning to a bunch of enemies all set to fight him to their dying breath and attempting to destroy the ring.
>>215036880Also you can turn people into ghosts with itSo in a way Aragorn DID use the rings Power to save Gondor
>read the first 30 posts>none of them explain why a normal person would want the ring if all it does is turn you invisibleI don't even care if there is a reason anymore
>>215043626>all it does is turn you invisibleYou say "that's ALL it does" as if you're unimpressed. You really don't comprehend the extreme usefulness of being able to turn completely invisible? Such a power would be near priceless even right now.
>>215043511Yeah... ever heard of the fall of Numenor and the dark Numenorians? Because that´s basically what happened. That´s covered on the "nine were given to the men" part.
>>215043850Why would anyone who isn't a gooner, thief, or assassin want it?
>>215043932They say you can destroy were it was forged internet chatrooms filled with white cis males
>>215043626It's more that the ring minds fucks you into thinking it's important and super desirable and will help you achieve all your dreams. It's basically drugs in ring form.
>>215038288>the literary work exists in and of itself and its themes dictate the exact meaning of all narrative events thereby making all thoughtful imaginative discussion of the fiction completely unnecessaryOk you're so fucking smart! You figured out the ANSWER!? Now please fuck off so we can have fun.
>>215036932What is Boromirs power? Being super retarded?
what if you put the ring on you cock
>>215044371 it can't shrink that small
Did we ever figure out what Tom Bombadil really was?
why does bro put all his power in a ring that can be taken from him anyway? why doesn't he just... keep all of his power... and negate the need for a fackin ring
>>215044371rest in peace Chiyomi "nekojiru" Hashiguchi
>>215043850yeah but wasn't it implied that there are other rings that can make you invisible? why not just ask gandalf to make one
>>215044495
>>215044519I mean, the inscription kind of says it:>One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind themIt was made to control the other rings of power, in order to do that he had to super-charge it with his own soul. Granted his plan didn't really work so he was kind of stuck with an Achilles heel.
>>215038688He's literally called the Witch King.
>>215038581Without an army they weren't much. Physically, there were probably not much stronger than an average man. Their powers were (a) immortality (though not imperviousness) and (b) fear. Being Numenorean and growing up in Rivendell, Aragorn did not fear them, and he was a cut well above the average man in fighting ability. Your average mortal would have simply fled before them without quite knowing why. But Aragorn or an elf would have been able to stand their ground. Now, holding off 5 of them is a bit of a stretch, but in the shadow realm in which they mostly lived, their senses may not have been as keen.
>>215036880>the character is merely boring>i know, let's name him Boromir!GRR Tolkien really phoning it in that day.
>>215044689why didn't he just simply use his godly powers to smite everyone instead of mindcuck them all
>>215040008
>>215045460Probably because the elves are really powerful.
>>215045514They do make good cookies.
>>215044689>It was made to control the other rings of power>all it actually controls in practice is nine dudes who are complete jobbers
>>215045546Yeah, can't remember if it was was just raw eleven power or if Celebrimbor did something to fuck with the three rings to make it not work. Probably both.
>>215037020The ring doesn't make Gandalf invisible. It makes men and hobbits invisible because it's drawing them into the spiritual realm. Gandalf and the elves already partially exist in the spiritual realm, so it wouldn't change them. It only grants them power. You can see how that works in the books when Frodo uses the ring to mentally dominate Gollum and it projects a vision to Sam of Frodo as a huge figure with a wheel of fire on his chest.
>>215045748Gandalf never puts it on
>>215045837But if he did he wouldn't turn invisible.
>>215045861How do you know?>Simple, he didn't put it on.
