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What are the best westerns? I'm pretty new to genre and need some recs.
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i like the outlaw josey wales
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>>215037765
This is the GOAT right here. I've never seen a single other Western come close.
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>>215037765
Warlock
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>>215037765
Go by the directors
>John Ford
>Howard Hawks
>Sergio Leone
>Anthony Mann
>Clint Eastwood
And others
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>>215037765
Start off simply.
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>>215037765
High Noon makes chuds boil for some reason
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>>215037773
>Union bad
Lmao watch some Fuller instead
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>>215037765
I would start with some of the more modern films like Dances with Wolves, Unforgiven, Open Range and the like then work your way backwards. People who recommend stuff like the Dollars trilogy to newcomers are making a mistake in my opinion as they are going to be an acquired taste to people who are used to newer films. Not to say these films aren't good or anything they just aren't appropriate for someone new to the genre.
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>>215037922
>they are going to be an acquired taste to people who are used to newer films.
Absolute garbage tier opinion. That's like saying people addicted to tiktok should watch 10-minute youtube videos before starting watching films
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>>215037765
>old stuff
Good Bad The Ugly
Once Upon a Time in the West

>90s Western revival
Dances with Wolves
Unforgiven
Tombstone (this one is quite campy)

>00s and beyond
3:10 to Yuma
True Grit
Assassination of Jesse James
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>>215037922
>Dances with Wolves,
Sucks.
>Unforgiven
A movie based around subverting traditional western ideas is a terrible choice for a first western.
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>>215037969
>Absolute garbage tier opinion. That's like saying people addicted to tiktok should watch 10-minute youtube videos before starting watching films
I got into westerns in the early 00's when the genre was largely dead in theaters and none of my peers were into them. I found, through personal experience, that showing them some of the newer films worked better than the older ones. If you think something like Stagecoach is going to keep the average zoomers attention (which I assume OP is, if not then I apologize OP) then you are out of your mind.
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>>215037765
Best soundtrack too
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>death rides a horse
Is this any good? I heard it inspired Kill Bill
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>>215037765
Start with the classical era: Ford, Hawkes, Mann, easy to find a good guide to it. You'll have "small" and generic westerns shot mostly in studios as well as epic ones. Then go to the Italians but not just the Leone, check Corbucci and such... Next the american revisionists like Peckinpah and don't forget the weird ones, Rancho Notorious by Fritz Lang, Ride the Whirlwind and the Shooting by Hellman, John McCabe by Altman or even Jeremiah Johnson. Bad day at Black Rock by Sturges is not set in Western times but it's great. Skip Josey Wales it's a meme and watch a good Ostern like White Sun of the Desert
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>>215038132
OP here. I'm 29 and I enjoy older films (often more than modern stuff). I'm also a horror fan so it'd be kind of weird if I didn't.
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>>215038203
Then I apologize for my assumptions. I have kids so I have the mindset of introducing older media to Zoomers and Alphas. You should do fine with the classics then.
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>>215037765
A classic.
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>>215038332
A bit goofy for a newcomer?
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>>215038158
Better than Kill Bill.
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>>215038181
>Skip Josey Wales it's a meme
You were doing so well
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>>215037765
Original 3:10 to Yuma
Stagecoach
Shane
Tombstone
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Rio Bravo
Stagecoach
The Searchers
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>>215038181
>Skip Josey Wales it's a meme
You're a meme and a gay one at that
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I've watched all the 'classic' westerns, but I always come back to this one. Near perfection. A finely-tuned pastiche of western kino.
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>>215037778
Uhhh spoilers?
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>>215038413
It's fun and light, not too bad for someone getting into them. You don't want to recommend High Plains Drifter right off the bat and leave him disappointed in everything else.
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>>215038142
This one first came to my attention for its influence on Tarantino's The Hateful 8.

I loved The Hateful 8, but The Great Silence utterly mogs it to an unmerciful degree. It just goes so damn hard
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Watch jubal too
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>>215037778
>This is the GOAT right here. I've never seen a single other Western come close.

I found it on the dull side.
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Hell for cowards

it even features a ghost rapist
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>>215037765
>John Ford
>John Wayne
>Monument Valley
Here it's the quintessential classic western movie.
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Watch Red River and ignore the last 3 minutes.
It's the greatest Western bar none.
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>>215038734
you mean High Plains Drifter
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>>215038726
Pleb status: filtered
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>Classical
Stagecoach (1939)
My Darling Clementine (1946)
Red River (1948)
Fort Apache (1948)
Shane (1953)
3:10 to Yuma (1957)
The Big Country (1958)
True Grit (1969)

>Revisionist
The Ox-Bow Incident (1943)
High Noon (1952)
The Searchers (1956)
Rio Bravo (1959)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Ride the High Country (1962)
The Wild Bunch (1969)

>Anti
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971)
Jeremiah Johnson (1972)
Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (1973)
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)
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I hate Unforgiven.
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>>215038447
What's the appeal besides "Union bad"?
It starts as a gritty one but devolves into a stupid adventure with an even stupider standoff at the end...
Run of the arrows or Rancho Notorious are superior if you deseperately needs a good southerner in your western.
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>>215038657
There's way better than the Eastwood westerns
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>>215040040
This anon does not endeavor to preserve
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>>215039047
Worst ending of all time. Real shame that it was one of the few movies where John Wayne actually put on a performance.
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>>215037778

/tv/ was full of absolute dogshit on this one. i will scathe and shit on this movie till the day I fucking die. it is shit. the pistol-whip was so comically ass it broke the entire immersion for me. i got about 1/3 through and found the film to just miserably and utterly fail to capture my attention in any meaningful way. it was a genuinely terrible film. the style and way the film is is so shit. it has no setup and no direction. the dialogue is so utterly annoying to listen to. whoever put the ensemble cast together is the most midwit casting director ever. utter failure of a movie and i'm pissed how much time i wasted on it. it looked really promising but /tv/ was wrong once again. TWBB and NFCOM stay winning. whoever reccomends this movie is a pseud.
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Peak fun
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My favorite westerns were Rio Bravo and El dorado. Someone recommend me more technicolor western kino.
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>>215038142
I liked this more than Django but they both were overated.
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>>215039557
Solid list, toss in Winchester 77, the Tin Star, Vera Cruz...
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Top atmospheric kino
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>>215037765
>look at that cast
Start with this
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Have a look at some of the cheap westerns that spawned from the 70s

When there was nothing on, I watched a film called A Man Called Noon starring Richard Crenna. Watchable.
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>>215043089
Also another watchable one,

A Reason to Live, a Reason to Die or it's called Massacre at Fort Holman

James Coburn and Telly Savalas
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>>215038332
Good movie, hands-off sister Sarah is seethe-worthy.
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>>215037765
ZACHARIAH!
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>>215039047
What was wrong with the last three minutes?
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>>215043697
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The Wild Bunch
Johnny Guitar
TGTBATU
are my 3 favorites by a wide margin, then after those probably Rio Bravo, High Noon and The Great Silence.
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>>215037848
This one was a before and after. Still bangs. Absolute classic and elemental film.
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After you've watched all Leone, watch this. He second unit directed many scenes here. It is an amazing movie. Often overlooked because it is a "comedy-drama".
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>>215038142
is that kinski?
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>>215037765
High Plains Drifter and Pale Rider are pretty cool
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>>215038181
>Bad day at Black Rock
I found this to be a total waste of time. Good performancr by the lead, but him being a super hero tier fighter took all the suspense out of the movie. Solve it with clever dialougue like your old busted hobbling character did for the good parts of the movie.
Instantly went from dialogue heavy witty charm to wowie zowie, he can take on a whole town of men with karate!!
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>>215044958
Yes.
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>>215037765
Blazing Saddles
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Fulci’s Four of the Apocalypse
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>>215037765
good bad ugly
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>>215042816
Got any tobacco?
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>>215037975
this is a great start

I would add:

pale rider
two mules for sister sara
the quick and the dead
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>>215040726
He was ashamed of his posting, his pretensions of taste and basedness; he was sorry about his jadedness, his autism, his inability to express what he now believed was the case - that he truly regretted provoking janny, that he missed Moot as much as anybody, and wished his departure hadn't been necessary.

Even as he refreshed the catalog on the Montenegrian basket weaving imageboard, he knew that other anons avoided his bait threads whenever he started them. He received so few replies that he reacted to each thread deletion with no emotion except curiosity. He kept to his basement all day - flipping over image folders, looking at his destiny in every sneed and chuck.

The janitor came up from /sp/ at 1PM on the 3rd. He had no grand scheme, no paycheck, no agreement with higher moderators. Nothing but a vague longing for hotpockets, and a generalized wish to do it for free. Janny would be ordered to explain his banning of the thread after a complaint filed in the feedback section, but after only five seconds of rumination the mods would pardon the janitor.

There would be no eulogies for OP, no one would see his thread get deleted, no anons would complain to Hiro about him being banned, no shitposts would be written about him, no screencaps taken of him, no one would ever open up the archive to browse the threads he posted in. The thread would 404, and the janitor would laugh - but OP would only sit in his chair and look at his thread, the page being deleted right before his eyes before he could figure out the CAPTCHA.
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I can't believe El Topo hasn't been mentioned yet. You gays aren't fun anymore.
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>>215041541
Dodge City
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>>215037975
>>old stuff
lol those are like mid-period. The Great Train Robbery was silent and the first movie to edit in multiple perspectives. nobody did it before because it was thought audiences would hate it because it would be too confusing.
that's how old westerns are. movies had been in color for a couple of decades before GB&U and OUATITW came out.
but I do agree they're great. all your recs are good. I'd add the original True Grit with John Wayne. he usually just plays himself and it's not very interesting but in TG he's great
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>>215038332
it's great
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>>215042816
I love Robert Mitchum in this
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>>215037765
I need to confess a /tv/ sin. I love westerns but I cannot fucking stand Howard Hawks movies.
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>>215048367
why
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>>215037765
Wild wild west
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>>215048384
They're tacky, boring. Sort of paint by the numbers westerns with the soul washed out.
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>>215048608
that's interesting. to me Rio Bravo was gripping, intelligent, and dripping with soul. he got real good performances out of Wayne
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>>215037765
Don't waste your time, watch Easterns instead.
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>>215048708
No thanks. I hate injuns.
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>>215038181
Best taste in this thread and actually knows what he's talking about.
The Clint Eastwood directed westerns after he came back to America are very mediocre but everyone loves them because it's Clint.
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A lot of great movies are listed. my old school fav has to be the wild bunch. new school is the aussie anti western the proposition. amazing cast. amazing soundtrack. those that doubt me suck cock by choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uutYyiJqmpQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uutYyiJqmpQ
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seen one oater seen em all



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