>>215038522
It'll be good to someone. Can't be worse than the games

>>215038522
Warfare was pretty good.

>>215038522
No

>>215038522
Absolutely not

>>215038522
Yes, to me. Because the game is unplayable uninteresting generic garbage.

Elden Ring sucks so unlikely.

>>215038522
is the "story" in Elden Ring good?

isn't there literally a meme about the backstory being just a bunch of shit they threw together to link the boss fights?

>dodgeslop
Nope.

Are they going to include a 40 hour prologue explaining the paper shredded stack of fantasy novels you just watched?

>>215038834
it's probably the most interesting story from a game ever

>>215038522
No cuz of Garfuck

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>>215038522
Why would it? There's nothing interesting going on in the source material, it's just vague fantasy bullshit.

No way this gets out of development hell

>>215038898
you have to be joking

>>215038522
Ask Duncan Jones about doing video game movies. Also, ignore that the WoW movie release coincides with his dad dying and his inheritance rolling in.

>>215038834
It doesn't have a story its basically mad libs

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>>215038834
As is typical with these games there's a ton of background lore and set dressing but there's almost no plot in the game itself aside from "go kill all these heroes of yore."

I imagine they will make it about the drama between all the various demigods surrounding the shattering. I doubt it will be good.

>>215038931
what do you think beats it, death stranding? lacks the metaphorical depth

>>215038916
>Stalker who sets herself on fire
Idris Elba

the dark souls series is so much better than elden ring it's crazy

>>215038958
Death Stranding has themes and a plot, Elden Ring lacks both.

>>215039000
And characters.

>>215039000
there are themes and the part of the game you play is the plot

>>215038954
>>215038945
Alex could just be doing it from the money, but if he isn't he will at least try to do something weird and arty with it that /tv/ will hate. and that's a good thing.

>>215039018
May as well not even be a plot. Go kill the powerful entities and become the most powerful entity. Amazing.

>>215038898
go play Deus Ex 1 and Baldur's Gate 2 immediately before I report you as underage.

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>>215038834
the idea of the player character is a "cursed undead" is kinda novel, meaning the player dying over and over again is part of the lore. All this company games have the same story: a philosophical debate between stagnation and change, at the end of the game you have two options be king of this shithole or burn it all down.

>>215038834
No, it’s chasing the highs of Demon Souls and Dark Souls 1 like every other FromSoftware game they’ve made.
Gamers are literally some of the stupidest retards to enjoy eating slop while grinning a brown smile on their face. They’ve done it ever since gaming really became a thing, which is why the medium has hardly evolved and it’s why gamers are 95 IQ troglodytes. Take one look at that shithole /v/ and tell me I’m wrong.

>>215039038
already played through. deus ex is good, but it's basically an elevated tom clancy novel. but it's pretty much just that. baldurs gate? you're not confusing length for quality are you? lol

>>215038834
No, it has even worse writing than Bloodborne. A game made 10 years earlier.

>>215038898
Fromsoft slop

>>215039035
you can simplify any one part of any story to make it sound silly and remove all the metaphor and deeper symbolism. the story comes from the telling and in the case of games, in the seeing, and the playing

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I thought a big element of the lore in these games is that there's some convoluted time shenanigans and everything is so unknowably ancient that cause and effect doesn't even apply much of the time to events considered historical.

>>215039064
>an elevated tom clancy novel
you're talking like there is a wealth of quality gamign storytelling that doesn't exist. Deus Ex 1 is perfect espionage/cyberpunk camp. BG1&2 is the best epic vidya narrative.
you seem like someone who takes pompous monologues very seriously.

>>215039121
I didn't say it was bad, just not as good as elden ring which is truly something great and why I said it's the best video game story ever

>>215039082
What symbolism? There are characters but their characterization and intentions are all intentionally vague. What are the motivations again? An inbred family fighting amongst themselves for power? The game gives you nothing.

>>215039082
you're just giving them credit for well-deployed mysteryboxes, plus all the "I have 10,000 powerlevels" japan shit the game uses to persuade you the characters and story are le important.

>>215039145
you're just easy to impress, and have an adolescent preference for mystique over actual characters.

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>>215038834
No.

The main director has a distinct "atmospheric storytelling" style, where you pick up pieces of information and lore as you go by talking to cryptic half-insane characters, and notes about magical items.
Players are rewarded for digging on their own and piecing things together.
From Software isn't the first to do this, but the director was pretty directly inspired by his own inability to fully translate and interpret western fantasy books he liked as a child, so he was forced to piece together the gaps on his own.

That's already inherently incompatible with a linear cinematic narrative.

The worse part is, they arent always actually able to finish and put together a coherent story or "lore".
The games are primarily gameplay design driven.
Making the game work and be fun is more important than having a coherent story.
So half the time they release a game like this, there's the tease of a story that can never truly be "solved" or understood.

Successful games where they do this:
Demon's
Dark 1
Bloodborne

Every other attempt has been a failure at this.
Elden was a particularly frustrating failure, because sometime they add in story bits in the DLC that help resolve the incomplete story, but the DLC made everything less coherent and came off super lazy, and just throwing together shit they just had laying around.

>>215038958
Clair Obscur E33

>>215039150
it gives you everything

The souls games are the story equivalent of an archeological dig. The only way they could do that justice would be to make it a collection of various viewpoints like an epistolary novel or something.

>>215039169
you've labeled me and filed me away in your mind. there is nothing I can say to remind you I am a human being. good day

>>215039183
there's nothing special about it. again, a serviceable jrpg story and not unenjoyable but I wouldn't call it the best ever

>>215039056
>All this company games have the same story: a philosophical debate between stagnation and change
There's no such debate within the game. Retards may theorycraft but the games never delve in anything like that.
The games aren't intentionally vague because they're deep, quite the contrary. They are vague because they're shallow.

>>215038522
No

>>215039170
>they arent always actually able to finish and put together a coherent story or "lore".
that's the whole reason why they don't try and just use hints. it literally makes the development process harder to fuck up.

if you try commit to a complicated story like BG3 you can end up with no clear antagonist, bad pacing, a muddled backstory, and acts that are random lengths depending on when they were released.

>>215039223
>I don't understand it because I missed the point so I'm calling it shallow
eesh

>>215038834
I played through the game several times and I still don't really know what the story is. Basically you have to become "elden lord". What does that mean and what does such a lord do? Who knows.

>>215039264
that's like the least important part of the story bro

>>215039202
>noooo don't disagree with me on 4chan

s-sorry

>>215039277
I don't mind disagreement, as evidenced by my previous replies

>>215039260
>I don't understand it because I'm gullible so I'm calling it deep

based

>>215039296
>If I don't understand it then that means nobody does
wew lad

>>215039260
>a philosophical debate between stagnation and change
You can pick a random coming of age story and argue the same. Or a buddy cop story. This shit is vague and by definition pretentious. You're seeing something that's not there.

>>215039286
>>215039223 and >>215039170 seem to share my impression of it.
its related to mystery box usage in general and the A24 mcdonald's arthouse phenomenom, so you can't expect me to not shitpost at you via the established /tv/ rules of engagement.

I guarantee Miyazaki laughs in the shower when he thinks of all the people who get dark souls lore PhDs

>>215038834
george rr martin wrote the story you dolt

>>215039308
I'm saying I do understand it though, and that you not understanding it is is the reason you think its good.

>>215039332
well that explains a lot

>>215039317
Get you some media literacy, pronto

>>215039264
Cosmic entities are using the lands between as a chessboard.
A witch demigod wanted out so she killed the soul of her half brother (her dad was his mom.)
In grief the mother breaks reality and all of her kids fight each other to fill the ensuing power vacuum.
Time passes and one of the cosmic entities starts bringing in random npcs to fix the world and your character is the latest one.

>>215039344
>I think I understand even though I don't and actually you, the one that does understand it, actually doesn't, because you think I don't
what a twisted web we weave

>>215039374
Fans made 90% of this up

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>>215039374
sounds like this very much applies, and its extra ironic given that GRRM wrote both.

>>215039332
>>215039359
he wrote the outline backstory from eons ago. the actual story in the game was based off his epic backstory outline. he did not "write" the story of elden ring as is often mistakenly said

>>215039381
just because one person says something is deep doesn't mean it is. conspiracy theories literally exist because people try to find connections which aren't there.

>>215039398
so its very much a bunch of GRRM ideas that merely hints at a greater narrative he didn't bother finishing. fuck you fat man.

>>215039416
>my mind can't grasp it, so I refuse to believe it exists
wowzers

Games are a terrible medium for storytelling and Souls games respect this by barely having a story. You just get vague exposition about stuff that happened in the past.

It might work because there's so little plot you can make up an original story and slap the brand name on it.

>>215039362
Yes, media literacy is required to fully grasp >>215039374 this anime bullshit.

>>215039433
he completed the backstory and outline, that was his job. the rest of the story was for miyazaki to finish

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>>215039434
>bro hillary clinton is 100% abusing kids in the basement of that pizza place, Qanon says so!!!!1!

>>215039456
You're so hip and you fit right in bro

>>215039445
this is a good approach for game design but it very much got marketed on having a story and its fans parrot that marketing uncritically.

>>215039461
yeah and he didn't.

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>>215039478

>>215039478
This image is 100% accurate.

>>215039374
I know nothing of anime and jap shit in general but isn't this basically Dragon Ball Z in a fantasy setting? Aliens with undetermined power fighting each other? So fucking lame.

>>215039478
>I need to massage my bruised ego from the points he's made that I know deep down are true about myself so I'll meme my way out of it and give myself time for my ego to recover and recharge my badly damaged shields of delusion
as you wish

>>215039478
That image isn't even as schizo as lore tubers

>>215039502
Nice comment, guy that's only seen DBZ seeing his second TV show ahhh post
>Getting some real DBZ vibes from this

Elden Ring with black people and white people are evil in it

>>215039521
I've watched a few DBZ episodes yes. Basically there's goku and picollo and vegeta and they fight each other. Wowzers OVER 9000!! Damn so cool did you see the episode where freeza destroys a planet? Bro who wins in a fight between Super Sayan 26 Young Goku and Freeza?
Elden Ring is basically that but more vague.

>>215038522
videogame sllop on a24... you fucking ignoramuses tasteless fags finally made it : you saying for years a24 is for snobs finally broke em

>>215039264
It's an incomplete story.
There is "true" understanding.

Basic theme/premise would be something like:
Cosmic entities influence the evolution of the world along a tree of live, the idealized evolutionary path being described as "Golden"

Theres a historical cycle to the world where major animal kingdoms rise up and become the dominant lifeforms only be to supplanted by newer evolved life.
Vague implications of aquatic primordial civilization, (amphibians gets skipped most), reptilian dragons, bird kingdom, mammalian, and then humans.

Humans become dominant, and either through cosmic influence or chance, and a specific tribe of humans learn to commune with trees in a pseudo immortality, while other humans off waging war and combat on each other.

The next tribal leader goes off into the world after witnessing her grandmother join the trees, and sees violence in the world.

???????????? somehow becomes a God, uses an army to conquer the world, and the supplant "death" itself from the natural lifecycle thus halting evolution.
Creates a tyranny of peace that stagnates and is eventually corrupted by other cosmic forces since humanity can no longer grow or evolve.

Speculative: Her dualistic nature eventually conspires with one of her rebellious daughters to thwart the wedding of the moon daughter and sun prince, by murdering the prince with the "Death" removed from the cycle.

No longer speculative: She flips out at her sons death and destroys "The Ring" (some kind of manifestation of the evolutionary cycle)

Her various children make different attempts to restore her (apparently flawed) order to the world.

>>215039577
Bro stop posting until you turn 25 and watch more than half of one children's TV show so you can contribute something worth reading, maybe

>>215039577
>nooo but you see Malenia goes on this epic fight with Radahn and he's heckin' based and loves his heckin' small horse!!!!

>>215039608
>watch more than half of Dragonball Z so you are cultivated like me and can have adult conversations

fucking hilarious

>>215039608
I'm 32 and have no time for this stupid jap bullshit. I've played Elden Ring and all Dark Souls games, they are great games and have serviceable fantasy settings, but they don't explore relatable human themes that make them worth thinking about at all. Like I said, generic "powerful entities" bullshittery japs love to go for that is completely meaningless and you can smell from miles away. Not saying all jap shit is like that but you know exactly what I'm talking about.

>>215039606
yikes

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>>215039705
I mean yeah, you're literally bringing children show insights like anyone cares. I'm sorry, half-watched children show insights. You're beyond useless in these discussions go get some real media experience so you can meaningfully contribute more than "that seems like the only other show I've seen"

>>215039710
>My preconceived notions and racism prevent me from seeing anything except what I want to see and dislike about these games
surprisingly self-aware for a myopic racist, interesting

>>215039497
>this is a good approach for game design but it very much got marketed on having a story and its fans parrot that marketing uncritically

If you look at nerd fandoms, this is all they want. Memorising in-universe facts, coming up with fan theories, arguing over plot holes. Elden Ring is nothing but infodumps, it's the perfect spergbait.

>>215039577
You are 14-17 years old. Not an insult, just an easily noticeable fact from how you speak.

>>215038522
>Game that has no world building, no characters and no story, just cool designs
I dunno. If they give him a 200 million dollar effects budget and it's not just lazy CGI sloppa, it might be mildly interesting.

>>215038834
There isn't really a story. It's like one of those art books where they toss together a bunch of generic fantasy shit in 3 minutes as a kind of "lore"

>>215039800
>muh no character muh no story
Is this just an American thing where they just can't into anything that is more subtle than a fast food ad? I can't believe this many people didn't "get" it

>>215039799
It's common for autists to not understand irony/sarcasm/impersonation due to their limited intelligence

>>215039756
Elden Ring is children show tier, sorry.

>>215039756
Are you expecting comparisons to 19th century Russian literature? Elden Ring has as much depth as the back of a cereal packet. Children's tv shows are exactly what it deserves to be discussed alongside.

>>215039830
There's nothing to get. It's some half assed, puddle shallow lore derived from generic fantasy slop to tie boss fights together. He's basically going to be starting from scratch unless he's just interested in making a purely visual work. Which would be more interesting than trying to extrapolate anything decent out of what little story and characters are dotted throughout the game.

>>215039901
Good lord this isn't the typical opinion of the American elden ring community is it?

>>215039898
This but not in an insulting way. It's like He-Man or Care Bears, but more impressionistic.

>>215039775
I'm not racist. Westerners also produce shallow fantasy shit, but for some reason when japs do it some people see depth where there isn't.

>>215039911
I'm not an American, but it probably isn't, no. I'm sure there are 8 hour long video essays covering the world of Elden Ring, just like they have for Marvel slop or Ninja Turtles (which obviously even have more depth and matrial than Elden Ring).

Too many people are stuck in this twilight zone: mentally stunted enough to enjoy children's media as adults, self-aware enough that they're embarrassed about it. The typical outcome is to defensively insist their favourite <videogame/cartoon/anime> is totally deep and interesting and anyone who disagrees Just Doesn't Get It.

>>215039939
I get the impression there is some unwritten competition somewhere to see who can more epicly trash elden ring. I guess I missed the tweet chain where this impulse came from so it just strikes me as a strange shortcoming of the American mind to be unable to grasp subtleties

>>215039939
>Marvel slop or Ninja Turtles
At least they have characterization. You know, so we human beings can relate in some way. From games have some of that in some NPCs but it's all very vague and shallow.

>>215039989
>it not turtle or wolverine I no relate
lol

>>215039967
>some unwritten competition somewhere to see who can more epicly trash elden ring
It's just funny because there are too many pretentions autists trying to make it seem deeper than it actually is.

>>215040023
Is that what you took from my argument? Come on, you're smarter than that.

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>>215038834
It's typical "let's kill god" Japanese redditry.

this autist definitely has a youtube channel

>>215040023
Characterize Solaire for us. He's a prime example of a great Dark Souls character isn't he?

Surprised they didn't cast the midget from Game of Thrones as the lead desu

>>215040071
Cast Zanzibart

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>>215039921
>I'm not racist
Stick around kid, you will be.

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>>215038522
That depends on the casting

>>215040129
Don't get me wrong, I'm racist against indians and niggers for sure.

>>215040117
Idris Elba

>>215039606
Pretty sure none of this is explicitly stated anywhere in the game by the way. There's like the powerful golden tree and niggas fighting each other and that's it.

>>215040371
some of it is
some its just based off of general thematic imagery and not text, and from software motif
some of its pure speculation

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>>215040150
They need to cast Kai as Miquella.

>>215039064
Tell me Elden Rings story, no the backround lore does not count

Lore is not story, nor storytelling. It's the history of a fictional world. Everything you do in a video game is a part of the story. The story is fundamentally tied to the mechanics/interactivity. Truthly every game since Demons Souls has had the same story, just with different flavour/context around them.

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>Hello, my name is Renna
*countless hours later*
>No, actually my name is Ranni

I'm sorry, what? Was this "twist" supposed to surprise me? Nothing in this "story"makes any sense.

>>215038537
fpbp

>>215040117
Pedro Pascal

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>>215040444
Literally engineered for it

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>>215040808
She needed to use a mustache.

>>215038522
Pretty much none.
The storytelling in Souls games is always a cross between The Road and The Lord of the Rings. It's The Lord of the Rings if Sauron won and Middle-Earth was completely destroyed.
They're going to fill it with quirk-chugas Latinas and heroic (but sassy) black knights.

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>>215040484
>Nooo, you can't use item lore to tell a story, that's non-traditional and doesn't count!

>>215038522
All he has to do is cast cailee and not make it political and it will easily turn a profit.

>>215038522
If the scope is kept very small, possibly

>>215039035
The plot of the game is that the world became corrupted by the demigods who fought amongst themselves and used genetic modification and corrupted science to make themselves increasingly powerful abominations until they broke death itself and the world with it. The goal of the protagonist is to end the world they have created via different means which may or may not work.

>>215038834
It's a weird hodgepodge of Scandi/Germanic and Celtic mythology, smashed (or, stitched) together with alchemy, and a slight smattering of Lovecraftian "eldritch outer gods from space" sprinkled over everything.

On its own it's kind of intriguing, but if you have knowledge or literacy of any of the above, you realize it's not very creative or novel. If anything, what's most interesting of all is the manner in which they weave the hodgepodge together somewhat effectively.

>>215038834
the games were unplayable anyway due to action queues, so the story probably sucks too anyway

>>215042177
What does this even mean, schizo?

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>>215042209
your actions are queued in a laggy manner, so if you jump and press roll mid jump, then your character will roll when able and lands, its extremely frustrating and a thing most games had +20 years ago that every modern gaming company has fixed, except for the amateurs that made elden ring

>all these faggots can't git gud
Topkek

>>215042216
Half way there.

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>>215038834
Fuck no

>>215041684
they could do the lore of gods vs dragons from dark souls, there is plenty to tell there. You could make it into a greek epic, superheroes but tragic and gritty. Normies could watch it

>>215038537
I tried to like it, I did try. Only Dark Souls 1 is good and it should have been a one-off, not a new genre.

>>215038522
The short film Black Angel kinda is a soul like

>>215038522
>Is there any hopes for this to be good?
Only if you're a retarded faggot

>>215038522
>Elden Ring
No.

>>215042247
just stop spamming, just
>git gut

>>215038522
Elden Ring is set in a massive fucking sprawling fantasy setting, this shit needs a huge budget which A24 cannot afford at all especially with 2025 being a big flop year for them, only Materialists managed to become a success
and Alex Garland made mostly sci-fi movies, Civil War is not sci-fi but is kind of an alt history techno thriller in spirit nonetheless, Warfare is a small scale war movie / thriller and his only fantasy adjacent movie is Men which is very small scale
I have doubts this will even end up being made unless From Software finances most of the movie

>>215038898
lmaooooooooo

>>215038834
The story is there but it is esoteric af and hard to follow if you don't know what to look for . The average fortnite gamer would most likely skip characters and go straight to boss fights. This garland nigga would probably do the same thing so it mostly be a shit story for the movie

>>215039726
why yikes?

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How is the movie going to work? At a minimum they'll have to cover Stormveil/Godrick, Liurnia/Rennala/Ranni, Caelid/Radahn, Leyndell/Morgott, Mountaintops/Giant, FarumAzula/Maliketh, Radagon/EldenBeast.
That's omitting every other zone, characters, bosses (like Malenia), etc.

How are they shoving all of this into a 2 hour movie?

>>215045722
>>215046495
Garland will just tell whatever story he wants with the characters and setting and you nerds will seethe that he isn't respecting whatever plot you've imagined exists based on Miyazaki's pile of loose breadcrumbs.

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>>215046560
They could adapt the manga.

>>215046495
The game has basically no story so they’ll just do whatever

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I have never seen a good show or movie adaptation of a video game, I doubt this will be the first.
Anyway, Roderika is mai waifu.

>>215046664
perfect fodder for a hollywood kike

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cast him

>>215047600
Guy who played him seems a pretty obvious start.

>>215038522
jews are going to push their propaganda as usual

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>>215047600