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>THE ONE WITH THE RIFLE SHOOTS
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>>215038924
This scene is so fucking kino
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>>215038924
nobody cares about your commie propaganda film
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>>215038924
It’s pretty funny how Russians and commies were crying about how inaccurate it is, but turns out biggest problem is that there are no soldiers on crutches waddling in that attack
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>>215039363
Ed Harris was a kino chad in it
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>>215038924
>>215039302
what movie?
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>>215039517
Enemy at the Gates
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the scene when he bones rachel (((weisz))) is HOT
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>>215039517
Stalingrad
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>>215038924
>there are men with rifles and men who suck
>you suck
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>>215038924
Never happened.
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>>215039403
They also didn't show the NKVD rounding up hospital patients to clear German minefields. The Red Army IRL was evil to a comical extent.
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>>215038924
>>215039302
Kino film, inaccuracies aside
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>>215039363
>commie propaganda film
Commies hate the film because it shows NVDK blocking detachments
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>>215039517
3 day special military operation (2022)
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>>215039630
what are those?
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>>215039630
*NKVD
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>>215039665
Communist secret police who shot retreating Red Army soldiers
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>>215039363
imagine how fucking retarded you have to be to think Enemy at the Gates is communist propaganda.

the fuck happened to the posters on this site.
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>>215038924
Were the Russians legit retarded? How much of this is propaganda?
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>>215039806
It was a different time.
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>>215039806
too many conscripts and not enough industry from the purges
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>>215038924
Cant believe that I used to actually think this was real when I was a kid. Amerimutt propaganda is incredible, even in World at War they couldnt help themselves
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>>215039302
Commies getting rekt is always kino.
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>>215039403
le PoWs getting executed with drones for propaganda content was actually a six gorillion man shovel meat assault
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>>215039517
Getting Even With Dad (1994)
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>>215039542
Hit pause on the right frame, and you actually get to see her (((pussy lip))).
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>>215038924
such a blatant westoid lie and propaganda to paint russians as cruel and soulless and not human
that shit in the movie never happened
but its ok to lie when movie is made in the west , then its ok
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>>215040205
westoids will be brown and retarded in the next century, they will get what they deserve
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>>215039517
Call of Duty (2003)
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>>215040249
imagine a fat american watching the movie and he goes like :
yep look at those russians forcing their own young men to charge against german machinegunes without even guns because of reasons and if they dare to retreat then they get shot by their own guys just because of again reasons

yep those russians are soulless uncivilized scum, they are not civilized and emotional like we are in the West , we should totally invade them and take their resources and liberate the planet from this boogieman

uhhh same logic applies to Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, ... they dont cry when their family members die from our bombs so its ok to kill em all and take their shit
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1. Russians in WW2 did send in troops who didn't have any weapons.
2. Russians did slaughter their own men for retreating

These are concrete facts. The "human wave" was never a myth, it was verifiable by hard numbers.
>German lost 4 million in the eastern front
>Soviets lost 26 million
The Germans themselves gave out training manuals on how Soviets would charge at them, no weapons in hand, and die by the hundreds of bumfuck villages.

The Soviets sacrificed an entire generation of men and women just so they could keep Bolshevik Jews in power
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>>215040428
its not just retarded fat americans, germans, brits, danes, all these subhuman soon to be brown retards think the same thing their daddy america does
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>>215039607
Is this quiet sex scene surrounded by 30 sleep farting Soviet soldiers accurate?
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>>215040205
russians are cruel and soulless and not human thoughbeit
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>>215040633
youre probably poolish or some other butthurt belt retard, newsflash, when americans or westoids talk shit about slavs they arent just talking about russians, you are literally the same piece of shit to them, keep self owning to please and impress your brown american master though
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>>215040530
>you sent in penal battalions of rapists and bandits to die for their country!
>that makes you evil
If you look at the actual crimes of these “prisoners” you’ll see how much bullshit has been conjured up by the media to demonize Slavs as subhuman
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>>215040677
didnt germans have a penal battalion known for raping and mass murdering and other shit? didnt the americans send black negroe soldiers to rape more german women than the soviets ever did?
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>>215039542
It was completely pointless and disgusting
The whole romance plot was really pointless to the film
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>>215040695
dierwangler and rhineland bastards.
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>>215040695
>didnt the americans send black negroe soldiers to rape more german women than the soviets ever did?
I think you would have to be retarded to believe that. If it is true you're comparing a minority of American troops to every male Russian troop who were literally lawless bandits.
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>>215040666
>le butthurt belt, here, BE MY STRAWMAN PLEASE
No. 50% German 50% Dutch, cope and seethe, you will never be human.
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This movie being mentioned never fails to send Stalin's dysgenics experiments into a frothing rage.
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>>215040794
>says a literal barbarian that looted Rome and today being looter by nafris kekmao
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>>215040896
>but what about
You'll never be a human, HIVan.
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>>215040909
you were never human to begin with barbarian
thats why you are going to be replaced by nafris lol
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>>215039688
never existed you retard lol
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>>215039607
>still doubting blocking units in 2025
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>>215041008
It existed for penal battalions comprised of rapists and pedophiles
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>>215041008
Why do the most retarded posts always end with "you retard lol," always in lower case?
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>>215040611
Russians fuck in public like dogs.
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>>215039517
Camp Of The Saints
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>>215040677
>WE ONLY SENT IN VILE CRIMINAL SOLDIERS
>their crimes? oh, uhhhhh they were HECKIN CHRISTIAN AND ANTI-COMMUNIST SO THEY NEED TO DIE HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>215039774
>the fuck happened to the posters on this site.
the disaster of 2016
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>>215039806
>Were the Russians legit retarded?
>Were
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>>215040205
soviet use of human wave attacks is well-documented. they did it then, and in fact are still doing it today in ukraine.
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>>215041056
>>215041161
dude they literally just tried and shot traitors, the panic-mongers , the literal people who would actually do something against the rest of the dudes around them
the barrier (blocking) units were supposed to prevent unauthorized retreat which was pretty a big problem considering that germans were dead set to exterminate you all so retreat was not an option in such cirumstances
similar hardcore shit happened on all sides not just russian, but hey lets just parrot how russians are the only ones that are muh cruel

thats why stalin went with that "not one step back" because people were thinking there is infinite land to the east to retreat from germans which would literally mean total doom

and the best part, this command was specifically targeted at the commanding officers and political commisars , not fucking literal who soldiers

to think that mowing down your own guys with machine gun like in that shitty westoid propaganda movie passed as an actual accepted scene to shoot is a testimony how evil westoid propaganda is

in total during whole ww2 commies tried and shot like 600 of these traitors and panic mongers
600 !!! compared to tens of millions in combat
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>>215041452
show the documents you pathetic barbarian warmongering demon scum
literally brainwashed to actually believe that "human waves" existed
thats how evil your westoid system is and how fucking they are hungry to send you to die in tundra to conquer Moscow for your elites
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>>215041556
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nafotroon thread
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>>215041556
Shut the fuck up commie shill. Also stop raping children
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Vhat propaganda?
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>>215041668
u mad?
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>>215041584

That's why you'll never be able to win, you have to lie about everything, even when nature of truth is opposite of what you say and believe. For all the faults of our system and they're many, speaking our minds is not one of them. How can you ever hope to win when you have to lie? Poor fools. Enjoy your empty grocery stores.
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the only human waves these western fuckers experience is the shitskin immigrant and pajeet waves kek
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>>215041737
win what barbarian, you are the ones trying to invade and destroy Russia for centuries now
just fuck off holy shit you greedy evil demons, go fucking invade Turkey or some shit you disgusting military-industry-complex ruled peon
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>>215039806
Commies are just Jewish and evil and hate life and joy
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So what's the excuse for this blatant shilling? That it's anons doing it for a joke? Obviously not.
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>>215041556
lying on the internet is so easy lol
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>>215041556
reddit spacing. You stick out like a sore thumb
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post rachel weisz's ass
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>>215041786
as opposed to the satans western army under lgbt trans flags, rampant whores and abortions and racemixing
cool story
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>>215039517
The Tournament (2009)
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Meanwhile in real life:

THE ONE WITH THE THERMALS LOOKS. THE ONE WITH THE BATTERIES FOLLOWS. WHEN THE ONE WITH THE THERMALS IS KILLED, THE ONE WITH THE BATTERIES, PICKS UP THE THERMALS AND LOOKS.
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meanwhile in western utopia:

YOUR KID CHANGES GENDER
YOU CANT AFFORD HOUSE EVER
GET STABBED BY NIGGER

such is a lifecycle of a western golem
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>>215041840
((((Who)))) do you think is promoting that shit retard
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>>215039542
I literally had to imagine the smell, as they hadn't showered in weeks.
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>>215039650
>runtime: 1,321 days
holy shit
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>>215039593
guess who was overrepresented in the commanding positions of the NKVD
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>>215039517
Red October
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>>215041905

This is literally US Army policy. The majority of troops don't have that, because they are very expensive, even in units that do issue thermals. And they also drain batteries faster than your mom can drain a day. Right now, the official strategy on this, according to the army, is that if you got issued thermals, you're going in the breach. And if you don't, I kid you not, wait for your buddy who has thermals to get swacked because he forgot to clear a corner properly.
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>>215040600
russia is already brown muslim and retarded.
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>>215039363
They don’t even show the ussr in a positive light and do the “unarmed human wave” myth
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>>215042086
It is physically impossible to lose 20 million guys if you are doing anything other than that.
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>>215042014
latvians
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Can you imagine what horrors we would see Soviet army do if soldiers then had cell phones and could just record videos?
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>>215042242
i would jerk off so much on german women being raped as they deserve
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>>215039688
funny how spielberg didnt have anything to say about MPs on the landing crafts
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>>215042168
It's 8-10 million, the rest are civilians.
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>>215042014
Nkvd became mostly russian after the purges.
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>>215042086
>unarmed human wave
they were armed with mosins, in 1914, in 1944 and in 2025, nothing changed. Human waves are real, that's how Soviets managed to have negative K/D in every single war they started
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>>215042251
imagine being so evil to send literal underage boys to omaha beach
russians at least were directly invaded and facing extermination so it was total war tier
but americans could've fucking bombed and prolonged until germans collapsed inevitably
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>>215041297
Their crimes were that they raped children and burned down villages during the civil war. Gulags contained the worst of the worst anon
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>>215042357
>Gulags contained the worst of the worst anon
>Joseph Stalin's Great Purge severely damaged RNII, with Director Kleymyonov and Chief Engineer Langemak arrested in November 1937, tortured, made to sign false confessions and executed in January 1938. Glushko was arrested in March 1938 and with many other leading engineers was imprisoned in the Gulag. Korolev was arrested by the NKVD on 27 June 1938 after being accused of a variety of charges, including false charges extracted from Kleymyonov, Langemak and Glushko. He was tortured in the Lubyanka prison to extract a confession. Glushko and Korolev had reportedly been denounced by Andrei Kostikov who became the head of RNII after its leadership was arrested.
Worst of the worst, such as: most soviet engineers
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is it even debated that WW2 was anything other than nazis V soviets (with everyone else watching it all go down and hope for the best)?
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>>215042393
i guess thats why Soviet union went from charriots to FIRST HUMAN IN SPACE, rockets, nuclear weapons, winning ww2, making west seethe in envy to this day , etc. because Stalin was killing scientists
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>>215039806

I recently read the novel life and fate, by Vasili Grossman, who was a war correspondent in Stalingrad. It is a work of fiction but it depicts a lot of soviet brutality and paranoia, which led to decorated and experienced officers being shipped from the frontline to nkvd prison in Moscow, or units being thrown to battle without adequate support or planning. The book also depicts a lot of brutality that red army officers would inflict upon their men. Vasily Chuikov, the guy who led the 62nd(?) army in Stalingrad would frequently beat his subordinates to give just one example.
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>>215038924
THE ONE WITH A COCK FUCKS
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>>215042475
you are retarded
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>>215042475
>It is a work of fiction but it depicts a lot of soviet brutality and paranoia, which led to decorated and experienced officers being shipped from the frontline to nkvd prison in Moscow, or units being thrown to battle without adequate support or planning. The book also depicts a lot of brutality that red army officers would inflict upon their men. Vasily Chuikov, the guy who led the 62nd(?) army in Stalingrad would frequently beat his subordinates to give just one example.
can't believe nothing fucking changed in 80 years
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>>215042463
Soviets only got nuclear weapons because of Manhattan Project leaks.
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>>215042512
and americans got mutts only because of nigger cum leaks into their white daughters
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>>215042251
he didn't do a movie about operation torch, did he?
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>>215042463
>reads actual fucking post how Soviet scientists were sent to gulag after torture and false accusations
>starts coping
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>>215042435
>
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FIRST HUMAN BEING TO TRAVEL TO LEAVE THIS PLANET WAS A COMMUNIST SLAV RUSSIAN, FOREVER
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>>215042544
>posts horseshit that never happened
>gets angry when people don’t beleive said horseshit
>seethes
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>>215042578
>posts horseshit that never happened
>that never happened
>never happened
commies appologist
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>>215042576
It was THAT bad in rassia
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>215042525
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>>215040695
The Americans gave Moroccan troops permission to rape Italian civilians in return for their service. Men, women and children were gang raped
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>>215039517
Enema of the State
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>>215040530
The War to Save Joseph Stalin
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>>215038924
THE FIRST MAN GETS A RIFLE. THE SECOND MAN GETS A SHOVEL. WHEN THE FIRST MAN IS KILLED BY A DRONE THE SECOND MAN PICKS UP THE RIFLE AND SHOOTS
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>>215038924
I remember when Call of Duty straight up plagiarized this movie and dozens of others but vidya was so insignificant back then nobody gave af.
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>>215042576
Everyone knows this was just a tactical feint on the moon.
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Human wave tactics are mostly a myth, but it is true that the Red Army on the tactical level often resorted to a rather blunt approach.

The worst of these bad habits was the propensity of some commanders, particularly of Stavka representative and front and army commanders, to squander valuable manpower and equipment needlessly, particularly by planning and conducting costly frontal assaults during penetration operations, sometimes repeatedly, after if was apparent the penetration could not succeed, when other less costly methods of penetrating defences might have succeeded.

Only speedy reactions would result in the pre-emption of the enemy's deployment and seizure of the initiative. Hence the Soviet preference at the tactical level for simple, easily understood, and rapidly implemented battle drills. The key to success in Soviet offensives was speed. If tempo was not being gained from the start, the Germans would not be destabilized and forced into an increasingly belated reactive posture, and the battle would become an attritional grind. Casualties would be high, and the result inconclusive. Better that the first echelon endured heavy losses to ensure a quick breakthrough so that the exploitation echelon could accomplish the enemy's destruction through fast-moving, lower-cost, and decisive manoeuvre.

When the Germans faced the Americans, they were surprised that artillery barrages were not followed up by determined infantry assaults. An experience corporal in the German 275th Infantry Division summed up German attitudes: "Americans use infantry cautiously. If they used it the way Russians do, they would be in Paris now. "
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>>215042307
Stalin did not allow any evacuations, not even of civilians, which is why the death toll was extremely high.
During the Normandy landings, the death toll was much lower than anyone had anticipated
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>>215043341
Evacuate where?

Deflecting was more of an option, but germans made clear they will just die there given enough supplies
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>>215038924
>movie about Stalingrad
>Khrushchev everywhere
>no Chuikov, Zhukov or Voronov
This movie is a fuckin disgrace on so many levels it's absurd
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>>215043341
Russia is very large, that's how the Russians defeated Napoleon by retreating and using a scorched earth strategy until the enemy was exhausted and overextended.
Bolsheviks wanted both the army and the population to remain under constant threat and occupied, so that any thought of rising against the regime would immediately be reconsidered.
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Blocking detachments did exist, but they were rather small. The duties of these detachments were to prevent soldiers from fleeing and retreating or leaving their units without authorization. As such, their duties were similar to that of military police. Depending on the circumstance soldiers could be sent back, detained or outright shot. In fact, depending on the personalities of the members, blocking detachments sometimes did not detain soldiers but merely warned them to get back to their units before they got into trouble.

Yet, if we look at the numbers, it seems that blocking detachments shooting their own troops was likely the exception than the norm. But you also have to remember that the Red Army became HUGE. Even 1-2% people being shot means tens of thousands were executed. A total of 990,000 Soviet soldiers were condemned to punishment by military tribunals. Some 420,000 of these were sent to punitive units and 440,000 to imprisonment; no fewer than 150,000 were sentenced to be shot. Now, “sentenced to be shot” does not necessarily mean that they were shot but still. The number of German servicemen executed - some 13,000 to 15,000 – was considerably lower. By contrast the French executed 102, the British 40 and the USA executed 146 of their service members. Note that at least for the US 5 were executed after the war.

In short, while the Soviets did execute far more of their own soldiers than other countries, yet blocking detachments were rarely used to gun down their own men, instead they usually sent soldiers back to their units and/or front.
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>>215043680
this was meant to be an answer to this
>>215043409
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>>215043686
>no fewer than 150,000 were sentenced to be shot
what about those that were shot without being sentenced?
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>>215042307
without another front the war would have gone on probably for years longer, with millions more russians dead. but naturally an american wouldn't care about that
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>>215043758

Their Order 227 certainly gave them that option in no uncertain terms, but actually resorting to it was not the norm. Shooting retreaters was a last resort, and its use saw only a brief heyday in the middle of 1942. More common would have been to corral the panicking units, arrest officers and some troops, run a quick show “trial”, execute a few to make an example, and sentence the rest to serve time in a penal unit. The most common utilization for blocking detachments was as a backstop for penal units where the need for such heavy handed management was seen as warranted.

Contrary to the popular image, commanders knew that their manpower was not endless, and by mid-1942, were unwilling to resort to use such lethal methods. There was also strong temptation from the commanders pick one of these detachments and just send them to the front because you always need more men. Within only a few months of the expansion of the blocking detachments under Order 227, the Red Army realized that such a scale of implementation was not worth the cost, although they would not be actually abolished until late 1944.
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>>215038924
really dumb movie
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>>215039517
Enema at the Gape
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>>215040199
proof? I don't believe you
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>>215039474
he was the good guy
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>>215039585
In breakout attempts by the Red Army during Operation Barbarossa, they would charge the enemy in dense human waves with arms interlocked chanting URRAAHHHH. No ammo, no weapons, just a desperate horde scythed down by machine gun fire in the thousands. They funneled hundreds of thousands of conscripts into the Stalingrad meatgrinder; the life expectancy once setting foot on the western bank of the Volga, was 10 minutes.



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