>final boss of writing the worst fucking endings imaginablehow do they do it?
>>215052549They have to deliver the promising premise
>>215052549For some reason anime/manga writers have a mental breakdown near the ending and sabotage it
dumb mangakas get too arrogant so they ditch their editors and write their wet dream into reality, to the dismay of everyone. Or, a series is known for killing off characters but the moment it gets popular normies don't want to see their "comfort character" dead so nobody dies and the stakes are entirely gone.
>>215052549japs only know how to create a premise and how to make setup but they have 0 idea of how to pay things off so every jap ending is a fucking disaster
they got their own theories on writing and they are retarded
If you stop at a middle point some series have great endings!AOT at the beachVinland at FarmlandKaguya after the confessionYou just need to act like nothing happened after!
>>215052549>>215052697This. Idk why anime is popular now when it is arguably at its shittiest state, it was only decent during the 00s.
I show you, the worst ending of all time!
>>215052727contrarian
>>215052727because they're very good on selling you the hope of the story transcending. It's like a flower that never blooms, a nut that never busts, forever blueballed at their incompetence.
>>215052689>a series is known for killing off charactersYou can only go so far with this tho. You need a consistent cast of characters to tell an over-arching story. I know it'd be soo heckin subversive to have your established characters die pointlessly and then have to designate new "main characters", but pretending your audience has never seen a movie before never works. A SoL approach can work, like Combat!, but you need at least an hour timeslot to do that well, but good luck, advertisers hate stand-alone episode shows. Even "Kill em All" Tomino didn't kill main characters until the last episode.>>215052640Nearly all serialized works have this problem, at least the ones that end. Authors autistic enough to have the entire story completely planned out before even being published are rare for obvious reasons. Dungeon Meshi really impressed me with how much forethought, planning and worldbuilding the author put in into it. (Im talking about the manga)
>>215052818the other thing they do is just never ending the story, forever milking it until nobody gives a fuck anymore and the creator dies
>>215052640Funny how it becomes a cliche for some reason.
>>215052697Is that why that "Rent a Girlfriend" manga keeps cucking out the audience from seeing the MC actually get together with the girl he rented to be his GF and on top of that makes him a pathetic weak cuckold to further drive in the point it's supposed to be a self-insert story for the same type of virgins who can't get laid because they're pathetic simps?
>>215052640Authors are under pressure not to write anything subversive.
MHA ending is the biggest fuck you I can think off. The author literally lied to you.
>>215052640Because they're ripping off existing stuff, kind of like video games (Halo).
>>215052549I'm guessing this applies only to long running series or manga. Most Japanese movies I like have great endings.
>>215052549Asians do whatever they want because they are Asian and you have to accept it.
Nausicaa is great from star to finish. One of the few manga that achieved it.
>>215053157not for long, they are next on the list
>>215053101It's kind of amazing how he had such a solid series with a great (if cliche) start and then he shat all over it.
>>215052549i might help to stop watching anime for young adults when you're in your mid 30s
>>215053170They arent like conquered, feeble, neutered, liberal whites.
>>215052549wdym this is peak fiction
>>215052549its an autism thing.
>>215053208Japan has been conquered for longer than Europe has my dude. All the spirit of rebellion you see in us right now? Japanese completely lack it. They were called herbivore men in the 80s and 90s aka the incels and chuds we got now, Japan already experienced decades prior.
>>215052983the answer is money, he found out that he can reuse the same formula for years, the other reason is that the mangaka developed a model off of the MC's love interest and he larps as her BF. This is a married man with children by the way.
>>215053208South Korea was literally ran by a feminist Cabal
>>215052640>For some reasonIt's well known. They overworked and burned out. To keep up with weekly publication for 5 to 10 years they burned out.
>>215053361Funny how old guard creators like Araki and Oda never burned out but these onions millennials can't even do 10 years without mortally crippling themselves mentally and physically
>>215052549>>215052640Not this.
>>215053374
Ehh. They can write a good ending sometimes.
>>215053374okay but one piece died with the timeskipthe fact it's the most popular thing in the world now and everyone loves it and calls it peak when it's as bad and hacky as it ever could have been is telling
because they just wrap up the story when they run out of ideas/time. they never actually write something with the ending in mind.
>>215052697>>215052727This is quite literally how Interstellar is structured and Nolan is lauded for it thougheverbeit?
>>215053158>Nausicaa is great from star to finish. One of the few manga that achieved it.Yeah, I think Nausicaa (the manga) is Miyazaki's best work by far. It's actually a lot like Dune when I think about it. Same morally grey hero's journey type of story. I hope we ever get to see Anno's projected OVA/movie series about Princess Kushana.
I refuse to believe that this ending was anything but good, it wasn't great, but it was good.
>>215052697Which part motivates them to pad out every fight with 69 episodes of dialogue, flashbacks and explanations?
>>215052549Name Western series that has a more perfect ending than Steins;Gate.Breaking Bad? It's been crap ever since Gus died. The Wire? Jimmy suddenly becomes retarded. Not to mention Game of Thrones.
I thought Godzilla minus 1 had a pretty good ending until the epilogue fucked it all up
>>215052549>You forgot to add another flag
>>215053671No.
>>215053919>second half is just backtracking the first half>the big twist of the story is solved with ketchup blood lmao when people praise anime I just know they haven't experienced good fiction.
>>215053999elaborate
>>215054007what's wrong with ketchup blood
>>215054007>second half is just backtracking the first halfYou know the genre called “time loop”?
>>215054011No.
>>215054019it's laughable. I know it's suppose to be a cartoon for manchildren but still... >>215054048that's not a genre. that's japs copying shit and trying to mask their plagiarism by calling it something else. if you mean time travel fiction, there are many other works that do the concept better and they certainly aren't in the medium of cartoons and "visual" """""novels"""""
>>215052640The reason is simple enough: they making their living off of serialization so their stories are not intended to end at a specific point.
>>215052640Only happened once.
>>215052549They can make satisfying endings, the problem is they make an amazing ending and suddenly have to keep going for literally no fucking reason>Dragonball ended well at the end of the cell saga>Continues pointlessly into buu and even dragonball kai ends at buu>chainsaw man ends perfectly at the end of part 1>instead of fuji making another series because he's successful at it, he continues into the dogshit that is part 2 which he recently admitted isnt planned ahead>attack on titans ocean scene wouldve been a good ending even if we didnt get evil eren kino (that was ruined in the final chapter)>HxH shouldve ended after chimera when gon met his father and maybe had a small epilogue arc of the spiders and other characters to wrap their story up>instead the single ant that couldve killed the entire world WAS AN ANT FROM LE CONTINENT THAT IS 100000000x STRONGER THAN US GOTTA CONTINUE TO MILK THIS SERIES (while the author has a back thats permanently broken)>naruto couldve ended well at the end of the pain arc but instead was needlessly dragged into a 100+ chapter shitty war filled with garbage>jojo couldve ended perfectly at part 7 but again is dragged through the mud and now nobody cares about jojothe japs either just keep going and people lose interest or waste a potential good ending to continue their manga until the true ending is shit
You know recall Jujutsu Kaisen.
>>215055446JoJo can end at any part and it would be satisfying; it is nothing like the rest
>>215052549Such a wildly incorrect thing it's just hilarious.
Im thinking it must have to do with just how oversaturated their garbage media is, that when they finally strike gold they have to milk it past the point of the original story or they’ll live in poverty forever.Just look at Naruto. It jumped the shark after like, literally 10 chapters (chunnin exam) and year by year it just degenerated beyond its original story to the point that i think the current story (Boruto?) it’s literally a kid fighting aliens
>>215055446I think Jojo is the exception to the rule cause it’s always been based on retarded over the top garbage writing that makes it hilarious
>>215055446>for literally no fucking reasontheir job and the entire model of the industry is built around keeping stories going fot as long as possible
>>215057416And yet the biggest hits in recent years ended after several years.
>>215057481yeah there's been a pushback against it in the past half-decade or so, though for mostly health reasons than artistic ones
>>215057546What pushback? The publisher would want nothing more than to keep putting out volumes of a popular series.
>>215052549It's some cultural shit. Same reason why all their games is some teen fag saving da world and killing God with his teen frens
50% Editors pushing the author into keep going so the company gets more money and 50% Authors insecurities making them snap are to blame for
>JapanIt's true for all kind of log running series. Anime movies don't have bad endings. Films in general tend to have better endings than other media, including books.
>>215052549You're implying they write good beginnings or middles (they don't)
>>215057915most of their most prestigious fantasyslop game franchises are about holy warriors with blessed genetics fighting objectively evil demon kings. there's a reason why there's a billion shitty parodies of "bro what if... demon lord good?"
>>215053919>he doesn't know about Steins;Gate 0
>>215053919S;G fags might be the most annoying and pretentious faggots ever
chainsaw man ends perfectlythe author decides to ruin his own characters with part 2 with a sure shitty endingnuke Japan now
That's why I think it was good that Kentaro Miura died. It's impossible for Berserk to have a decent ending. We will always have golden age and conviction arc (lost children included) and all the new shit by his friend is fan fiction
>>215053919aaime writing peaked right there. Western-only fags wouldn't understand it.
>>215055446Jojo is basically standalone, most parts stand up on their own. Stone Ocean being shit doesn't make Parts 2-5 any less entertaining or gratifying, and you can basically pretend Jojolion doesn't exist if you want to
>>215052549Thats why the best are ones without ending, like One Piece
Only K-drama have real endings now.Even trash like Squid game ended it's MC's story.
>blocks your pathhttps://youtu.be/rsC-wf0XDLI?si=ReBq8g5kHbpCabB-
Short manga below 50 chapters tend to have great endings. Pic very related
>>215052549Didnt Yugioh have a good ending?
>>215059515Surprisingly DM, GX, 5Ds and Zexal goodArc-V, Vrains, Sevens, Go Rush sucked
>>215055446The ongoing Jojo is really fucking good though.
>>215052549>final boss of writing the worst fucking endings imaginableThat's not a picture of Stephen King though
>99% of thread's sole frame of reference for "bad nippon ending" is animeChrist almighty, this shit fucking board.
>>215059721Because the ending here is actually good.
>>215052549>>215052818>>215052927The milking it for as long as it goes element is only one half of it. The other half is that virtually all anime is based on successful manga and light novels, and manga (especially manga) and light novels are both hyper-competitive and punishing in what gets published.For manga, japs spitball their elevator pitches at a handful of major publishers with hundreds of other hopefuls, and need to produce art that go along with it. For LNs, they first need to find success writing free webnovels before a publisher will edit and adapt it into a light novel, so they're again pumping out compelling concepts and feeding them into the fire until one explodes.They virtually never have a real plan going forward, and unlike traditional authors who write without a plan and then heavily edit the rough first draft, these japs are writing as they go, with tight deadlines for content (for webnovels, to maintain interest, and for manga, because that's a lot of art to produce every week or month).Manga is the more extreme of the two, of course. Mangaka spend every waking hour pumping out art, sleeping 4-5 hours a day until their heart explodes in their 40s or 50s. They don't even think of the ending they never planned for until they're there, if they ever even get there.
they make islands out of literal garbage
>>215059788Then why is OP pretending "le flag can't write" endings when he only watches seasonal anime slop? Is he stupid?
>>215058469One Piece has been awful for over a decade. Grow up.
>>215055446>HxHhey, at least togashi is finishing the next batch of chapters, he still cares, unlike someone like george rr martin with winds of winter.
>>215052549Good endings are considered immature or childish in Japan so it always has to be bittersweet or bad unless it's a work for kids like a shounen manga.
>>215059993Gee, you think? What finally gave it away?
>>215055446I read two of your points and decided you're simply retarded and did not read further.
>>215060064Togashi knew that he'd be in an eternal semi-hiatus so he made the boat arc as convoluted as possible so the fans would entertain themselves with schizo-tier theories for years.You can't call that not-genius.
>>215055446All of those are terrible points to end on. You are a moron, not the biggest in the thread though.
>>215053919>everything just gets conveniently resolved with the power of time travel asspull Steins;Gate is shit.
>writes the seventh identical book that still doesn't have an endingThat would be 50 dollaridoos, baka gaijin.
