pathetic, but in the traditional 'pathos' sense.

>>215084102
>So was he supposed to be scary, or pathetic, or what?
For some reason, we were supposed to like him and his not-Revan getup (despite how much of a Jacen Solo ripoff he was). In the end, he was nothing more than another Rey simp who forgave himself for all his sins via hallucinating his dead father on the ruins of a superweapon that vaporized 35 years prior but somehow has intact wreckage on a completely different moon and, instead of finishing off Sheev, hands that victory to the fucker's granddaughter.

>>215084193
It makes me laugh how hard they missed the point with the revan ripoff.
Revan was designed as a crusading knight crossed with a monk, aka a knight of the old republic. Even if you don't know it's based off Revanchist, you still get the idea.
Kylo Ren just wears it to look cool. They can't decide if he's a bipolar nutjob that is a threat because you never know what mood you'll catch him in, or a complete loser that's a threat because he might decide he's been slighted and needs to prove a point.

>>215084102
Both. More so the latter.

>>215084193
He's not that similar to Jacen, honestly. It's possible that Lucas's ideas had his character closer to Jacen or whatever but I doubt it.

both
kind of like Kim Jong un
he was the one thing that kinda worked about the sequels
shame about the rest

Both, he's a temperamental young adult with arrested development who also just happens to have the ability to kill you with ease. Funny how people are so divided on this guy yet the same people talk about how great Anakin is.

>>215085042
Adam Driver is sure a better actor than christiansen and he doesn't sound like a faggot. He is also much bigger and would beat the shit out of him. Christiansen is much prettier, though.

>>215085092
>He is also much bigger and would beat the shit out of hi
Well yeah. Americans are stronger than Canadians to begin with.