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Sopranos is basically everything people hate about modern shows.
>filler episodes
>flashback episodes
>girlboss episodes
>interracial episodes
>gay episodes
>the writers preaching their leftist opinions episodes
Why does it get a pass?
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It was made before chuds got indoctrinated by online culture war propaganda
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typically low iq reductive take
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>>215106511
People were more naive back then so they took subversive shit at face value. Then we got 20 years of "Whiteness is a disease that needs to be eradicated" and trans beavers in Blue's Clues, and now no one falls for it anymore.
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>>215106511
just monstrous levels of projection here lol
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>>215106441
can you fuckers ever just enjoy watching something without brining politics and agendas into it?
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>>215106583
Why describe your own post?
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>>215106590
yeah in the before times of less than 20 years ago people were just way more trusting and innocent.
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>>215106441
Dude that’s fucking life especially in a blue state like NJ. How are you going to be mad that they were imitating reality?
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>>215106637
>without bringing politics and agendas into it
But I didn't write the show?
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>>215106511
I bet you didn't think men were women ten years ago lol
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It's funny to watch Italian-Americans bumble around and trying to piece together their clusterfuck lives.
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>>215106441
retard
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>>215106441
It's the first modern show. Peak tv before sopranos was Frasier. Without it you'd only have reality tv slop.
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>>215106441
any blacked episodes in it?
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>>215106441
Because it was good
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>>215106441
none of what you said is true
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>>215106441
yeah but tony was le based so the subversion is actually le based too
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>>215107118
Every single one of those things happen. Some have entire seasons devoted to them.
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>>215106441
I genuinely don't get why chuds love this show and think its based or something kek, almost everytime there is something right wing it's in a negative or critical way
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>>215106441
I don't know. My generation didn't watch it.
The woke generation did.
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Ooooh look at that fanook OP talkin out his ass ova eere
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>>215106441
This and The Wire are the most overrated shows there is.
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>>215107686
It's mostly for the memes.
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>>215106614
If you read or understand any of the dumb shit posted online you'd know it's true
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>>215106441
Here's your (You)
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>>215106511
Seething like a schoolboy. Chit chattin with fuckin chuddies
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>>215106441
>filler episodes
????
you lost me on the first arrow post, you idiot.
The Defiler episode is kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKncY8Lgw5E
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>>215107727
Sopranos overall is a good show but it's definitely overrated, it was not near as good as people hyped it up to be.
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I can spot a POOjeet thread from a mile away, this site is finished.
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>>215106441
>2 or 3 filler (still entertaining) episodes in the entire series.
>The women are portrayed as flawed. Girl boss is a modern regression in characters.
>Who? Meadow’s first bf is a smarmy fuck and nobody likes him
>Vito is pathetic and his gay escape fantasy is cringe I’ll give you that but it’s not exactly portrayed as this great thing. Unlike modern tv there is no moralizing.
>I wouldn’t say preaching.
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>>215107768
Very telling how the thread is 30 posts in and no one can offer up a counterargument, they just post because they're mad.
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>>215107784
There's not really too many full on filler episodes but there is a lot of wasted time. Did we really need to see fatfaggot on his gay adventure?
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>>215107727
they're good for one watch and that's it. they don't really hold up that well and there's 0 rewatchability.
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>>215107812
>Discussing and pointing out a show's flaws while still appreciating good aspects about it is poojeet
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>>215107803
It came out when there wasn't anything like it on cable TV and HBO's biggest hit of the time. If you pitched "A show about mobsters but it brings in focus on their personal lives and psychology" today it would get a "meh", but back in 1998 it was a high concept show idea that was gonna push boundaries and make headlines which it did.
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>>215107876
It has a great pay off and cant say its out of the blue when Fin catches him a season earlier.

Also like he gives up the life in exile after one day of hard work. He'd rather risk death than another day of that
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>>215107923
Yeah, but people need to have more appropriate expectations when watching this show. If you have seen a lot of famous modern shows, then The Sopranos is not gonna blow you away
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>>215107923
Nah it’s great
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>>215107943
>this anon thinks a man being sodomized to death is a great payoff
holy fagola, marone
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>>215107979
do you think the pool cue was chalked?
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>>215107972
Didn't say it wasn't, but with TV today it may have gotten a pass.
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>>215106441
Vito's finook subplot was kino, fuck off retard.
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The dream episodes are crap. The dream trope is brought up fucking constantly throughout the series, but the three episodes dedicated to dream sequences drag. This boring, surreal, "all dreams have relevant meaning to whatever the dreamer is going through" gets old really quick. Same with the near constant scenes of the fat fuck watching TV.
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okay, get this, y'all...

it's a show about MOBSTERS...

but instead of doing problematic mob things...

they go to THERAPY and take ZOLOFT and struggle with TOXIC MASCULINITY and discuss their daughter's BLACK BOYFRIEND!

see, people just want a cool show about mobsters but it's actually an EPIC DECONSTRUCTION of that and we're making fun of them!
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>>215108096
I wished the dream episode at the beginning of Season 6 was dedicated entirely to Tony's dream experience rather than constantly cutting to different character's pov and plotlines like a lot of formulaic shows do. It could have made it much more impactful imo, imagine the entire episode was a dream sequence and at the very end Tony wakes up to Carmela and Meadow at the hospital. Could have been Kino
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>>215108055
I'd bet ten bucks you were screeching about the gay episode in TLOU.
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>>215108284
I'd rather just watch a David Lynch movie at that point.
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>>215108548
A lot of The Sopranos already feels pretty David Lynchian cause of the dream sequences, The Test Dream already is another episode basically dedicated entirely to a dream sequence
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>>215108421
I didn't watch that, but more importantly I'm not sure why you're making that assumption based on my previous reply.
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There is no filler in sopranos it's all character building which is the essence of the show, there's not many flashback sequences either.
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>>215108592
Yeah, and it's poorly done and tedious. The dream sequences are boring as fuck and don't tell us anything we don't already know.
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>>215107686
Yeah that rant about blacks stealing bikes is totally anti chud
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>>215107803
Than what is the actual best drama since you said sopranos is overrated.
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>>215108634
Nah I like them because they tend to actually do something interesting with the filmmaking
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>>215107943
It's also got his DUI murder scene which is one of the best murders in the show, and yeah the counting the minutes working scene is top tier aswell
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>>215106441
Crazy to think how much trouble these Itallians have made

They are far worse than Mexicans but none of these Itallians were deported why?

Look at how many people these Itallians murdered bribed extorted blackmailed and so on
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>>215108421
Haven't watched TLOU but I'd bet 100 bucks they're completely different
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>>215108700
Because Mexicans are brown and low iq, Italians are much better
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>>215108635
One of the core messages of the show is that mobsters are glorified niggers and scenes like that are meant to show the hypocrisy of murderous wops being racist towards blacks.
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>>215108653
Evangelion
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>>215108673
>>215108548
Refer. Once you've seen one you've seen them all.
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>>215108055
It's the worst part of the show anon.
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>>215108943
It's the worst part of the show if you have shit taste, yes.
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>>215108989
The most interesting aspect of that plotline for me was how it explored the theme of criminals failing to defer gratification and taking the easy way out. But other than that it felt pretty underwhelming and didn't strike me as being one of the best parts of the show.
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Why did Ralphie beat his goomah to death outside of the Bing?
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damn. a boomer 1990 show is still talked about daily. must be shit.
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>>215109103
she said she was keeping the kid. and the coke.
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>>215109278
>she was a hooah
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>>215106441
It's a perfect representation of America in a certain window of time.
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>>215106441
Because retards can't understand what they're watching and take everything at face value. People see a funny Mafia show where the guys are all earning money, fucking, and winning fights. The entire purpose of the show as a deconstruction of Mafia's glamour and it's dwindling influence is lost on them.
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It's also boring, corny, samey, and poorly acted.

Everyone is pretending to like it.
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>>215109453
The acting literally carries the show
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uhh guys.. i think its great however season 4 has been really weak so far. what happened here?
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>>215107686
Sounds like they lack... media literacy?
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>>215109593
Where in Season 4 are you? For me Season 3 was the first good season, and Season 4 was great. Season 5 is pretty good and Season 6 was the peak of the show for me personally
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>>215109593
I think 4 was the one they had to rewrite because that one old guy had dementia irl

>>215108193
kek
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>>215109657
>the one they had to rewrite because that one old guy had dementia irl
I think that Season 5, are you talking about Feech
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>>215109679
Yes, my bad
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>>215109629
I just watched episode 3 - "Christopher". felt like a cheap B tier daytime tv drama. even the acting between tony and melfi has been poor so far. it also feels like the show may have peaked in terms of popularity here? you know when it feels like the writers are imagining the audience's response / watercooler talk the next day.. in that shitty pandering way that fucked game of thrones

>>215108096
i think the dream sequences are the best ive seen on tv. they actually feel like dreams. and in that same way when they overstay their welcome I just want to wake up
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>>215106441
Roger Ebert over here
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I really don't know. I gave this show a chance but when they went to Italy and realized a woman was running the mafia, I tapped out. At the same time, they introduced some "cool hip hop nigger thug" character and Chrissy's whore gf was all into him.... just lol.
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>>215109803
Yeah understandable it's a pretty slow and boring season, I think it's partially because the budget was reduced for that season. But the main plotline with Ralph in Season 4 is really good, one of my favorites in the show.
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>>215109858
no no but you see it is le based because the villain character says fag occasionally (he is gay btw)
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>>215110092
>(he is gay btw)
How do you know who's gay or not? What, you got a little secret or something?
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>>215110092
kek
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>>215108193
If Sopranos came out today I guarantee /tv/ would hate it for exactly this.
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I'm rewatching L O S T and the flashbacks are getting annoying when I just want to get to the good stuff. I didn't mind it when watching it on air.
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>filler
Is there a more misused word by fucking retarded faggot zoomers? Why are these subhumans so obsessed with MUH PLOT
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>OH MY FUCKING FAUCI SCIENCE DID THOSE CHARACTERS JUST DO SOMETHING RELATIVELY MUNDANE AND TALK TO EACH OTHER? WHERES MUH FUCKING PLOT?????????
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test
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>>215106441
it gets a pass because it's subtle, honest answer. sopranos is my favorite tv show but it is a massive bait and switch. you could say everything leads up to allowing gays in the mafia, or deconstructing masculinity. all the good shows work the same way. the woke shit is trickled out slower.
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>>215106637
/tv/ is /pol/ for redditors.
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You are retard like little baby
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>>215110379
>OH MY HECKERINOS PUPPERINOS ARE THOSE CHARACTERS HAVING A POINTLESS MINDLESS CONVERSATION?? WOOOOW THIS IS SOOOOO GOOD!.
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>>215106441
Naaaah...
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>>215107943
>Also like he gives up the life in exile after one day of hard work. He'd rather risk death than another day of that
This was one of the best parts of season 6. brilliant.
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>>215106684
Are you being sarcastic? because it's obviously true
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>>215106441
>ever watching that wop garbage
Dude, fuck off
>Why does it get a pass?
It doesn't, it's shit. That's why nobody watched it
>>215106637
>enjoying trash
Condide suicide
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>>215108635
They are because you aren't supposed to side with Tony
You might, but that wasn't the writers intention
It's like watching this scene and thinking the writer is based and redpilled:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab_UxvYMSac
When the writers intention is that the Commodore got to live a life of privilege while the black woman is essentially a slave and so the commodore is ignorant and repulsive
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>>215106441
It’s also extremely depressing to watch
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>>215107727
That's implying either of those are highly rated. They aren't, nobody watched this shit
>>215107803
>wops wopping around
>advertising smoking
>overall good
No
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>>215111931
It's one of the funniest shows ever made and puts a smile on my face every time
What do you even get depressed about, lmao? The gabagool supply chain?
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>>215108634
>it's poorly done and tedious
Yeah, he said its like Lunch made it
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>>215111948
The entire show is a slow decline into sadness and death. Maybe it’s just me.
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>>215106511
shut the fuck up reddit.
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>>215106684
>yeah in the before times of less than 20 years ago people were just way more trusting and innocent.
If this is isn't blatantly obvious to you, you must be much younger than 20.
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>>215107968
>If you have seen a lot of famous modern shows, then The Sopranos is not gonna blow you away
What are some better shows in your opinion?
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>>215112253
Deadwood
The Shield
Rome
Sons of Anarchy
Black Sails
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>>215109657
>I think 4 was the one they had to rewrite because that one old guy had dementia irl
>>215109679
What the fuck happened?
t. I watched the whole show a few years ago, but I don't remember who Feech was.
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>>215110496
>it gets a pass because it's subtle,
The show frequently has characters lecture us.
>Tony lectures Sil on being proud of italian identity instead of being proud of himself.
>Melfi frequently lectures us on toxic masculine aggression, and her interactions with her own family are annoying deconstructions of italian identity, that feel like they were written to be published in the New Yorker rather than as dialogue for an interesting character.
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>>215108700
You wouldn't even have nuclear energy/weapons without an Italian
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>>215112309
>The Shield
>Rome
>Sons of Anarchy
>Black Sails
Man you really love gay shit
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>>215106441
You missed off the worst thing about the show: it was all about subverting your expectations.

I didn't watch the show as it was airing, and I heard about the controversial ending, the cut to black. I thought that wasn't so bad, he dies, the show immediately ends, that's ok. But it turns out it's a microcosm for the entire show, summed up with one word: abortion.

Everytime there is a potential storyline, the writers take the least interesting turn possible, the least narratively satisfying option, all for the sake of tricking the viewers. You thought X was gonna happen? Haha, actually Y. Except instead of Y, it's
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>>215106511
Just by saying “chud” lets everyone know it is you who is hopelessly indoctrinated, imbecile.
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>>215106441
>filler episodes
Not an issue since it's barely a serialized story anyways.
>flashback episodes
Develops Tone character.
>girlboss episodes
All the girlbossing around is done by Pussy's wife (a fan favorite) and that bombshell italian girl.
>interracial episodes
All mocked by Tone and pals.
>gay episodes
Vito fucking dies with a cue pole up his ass lmao.
>the writers preaching their leftist opinions episodes
They did it subtly enough more often than not. compare that to anything made today.
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>>215112667
>you're right, but
Why even bother replying at that point?
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>>215112553
>But it turns out it's a microcosm for the entire show, summed up with one word: abortion.
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>Everytime there is a potential storyline, the writers take the least interesting turn possible, the least narratively satisfying option, all for the sake of tricking the viewers. You thought X was gonna happen? Haha, actually Y. Except instead of Y, it's
Off the top of my head, there's a whole episode dedicated to putting a wire in Tony's house, and it's nullified two episodes later by Meadow taking it to her dorm.

And in Season 1, there's the snitch guy who just dies of diarhea seemingly because the actor wanted out of his contract.
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Zoomers have been brainrotted by politics.
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>>215113033
>shove your politics into in media for decades
>get mad people are noticing
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>>215113127
meds
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>>215113127
There's a lot of gay shit that gets made now but you faggots connect everything with le culture war because you're terminally online.
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>>215106637
t. seething tranny
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>>215113252
Also I wasn't just referring to the right wing with >>215113033. The same applies to tankie faggots who watch Hasan Piker and whoever.
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>>215113033
It's quite easy to not care about politics when everything is going smoothly. When you have immigration, unemployment, taxation, war, birth rate problems, pairing problems, ethnic problems, crime, low wages, government conspiracies and everything else under the sun, it's quite easy to think about things that are not normal to some boomer who only thinks about the weather and the type of steak he will have on friday.
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>>215113252
>that didn't happen, you're crazy
>okay, it happened but you're terminally online for caring
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>>215113360
>that didn't happen, you're crazy
When did I say this you fucking retard? You speds are so embarrassing.
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>>215113433
Literally the post above yours. Does the HRT mess with your vision?
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>>215113475
>Literally the post above yours.
You mean this?
>>215113360



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