Huh, who knew?
Everybody above two digits IQ already knew that
only gunnjeets denied that.
>>215111960I don't get how a 200-million-dollar film can flop.Like with that money, you'd think they'd do extensive research on what the market wants to see.But this seems to be the case of:>STUDIO: Here is 200 million, do what you want. You made Guardians of the Galaxy work, so you must know what you are doing.
>>215111960Turns out, when you get woke, you go broke. Who woulda thunk it?
>Superman had a production budget of $225 million plus a worldwide marketing budget of $125 million, Variety reported after the film was released in theaters in July.>Given that films generally split their ticket sales 50-50 with theater owners, this means that Superman’s theatrical net equates to nearly $308 million. The amount, of course, does not reflect any residuals that are being paid out or other miscellaneous expenses associated with the film.>Even going with the $308 million before taking the other expenses into account, Superman’s net falls below the $350 million Warner Bros. spent on the production of the film and marketing.>Whether Superman will ultimately end up making or losing money, though, is yet to be determined, since Warner Bros. will earn money from premium video on demand, streaming video on demand and other revenue streams, including dollars earned from licensed merchandising.
Gunnxisters…
>a lot murkier it's not. the production budget got leaked by ohio business journal. it was over 300 million. the film did 615 million at the box office, hit home video during the theatrical run, got discounted twice, got smoked by DC superpets at the labor day weekend box office, did Superman Returns numbers when adjusted for inflation, less than MOS without adjusting for inflation, and was less watched than The Penguin on HBO. Studios don't get all of the money a film makes in theaters and they don't release their marketing budgets to make films seem more financially successful than they really are. Superman flopped by every metric and Warner Bros only greenlit a sequel because they're stupid and in over 30 billion dollars of debt.
But but I thought kindness was the new cuck porn
>>215112664Is this a bot?
>>215112769Sounds like a neat, straightforward narrative you're desperate to push. I also sense some emotional investment.Snyderfags are mentally unwell, and they shouldn't have an outlet for their derangement.
>>215112591That's exactly what happened. Gunn's GOTG movies did almost 3 billion because he got lucky and managed to hit the crest of the MCU box office wave. His DCU track record is dogshit. >Suicide Squad reboot bombed>Creature Commandos bombed>Peacemaker season 1 flopped>Superman flopped >Peacemaker season 2 floppedfucking Matt Reeves out performing Gunn at the box office and on HBO. The Batman gross over 150 million more than Superman. One season of The Penguin got better viewership than both seasons of Peacemaker combined. It's fucking over for Gunn and he knows it. Peacemaker isn't getting a third season according to Gunn and the rest of his pet projects got put in limbo until he can prove that he can draw with Superman.
215112822215112841pedogunn fan about to have a melty. come on bitch. shart it out.
>>215112822Would a bot do this?
>superman gets beat by dude in power armor who turns out to be ultraman who turns out to be a superman clone>superman gets beat by regular dudes in power armor>superman gets beat by a latinx gender swapped Karl Childers >superman is played by a cross eyed actor who looks like a temu version of henry cavill >the superman logo looks nothing like an s>Jor-El and Lara Lor-Van are evil psychopaths because Gunn likes Smallville>Superman's "solo" film is loaded with z-list heroes >the fucking dog that doesn't look a damn thing like Krypto >"superman robots" with human numbers>crybaby twink lex luthor>superman ignores humans in danger to save squirrels >superman faces off against his mortal enemy...online trolls >superman clone controlled with drones from a command center>superman is too stupid to realize he's fighting his clone (no indication the mask was lead lined) >superman slaughters a bunch of human henchmen >superman watches apathetically as other supers kill temu godzillla Superman 2025 was a fucking embarrassment for DC.
>>215112769>Warner Bros only greenlit a sequelThey probably greenlit and fast-tracked it to see if there's anything to the "restoring the brand" shit. If it hits a similar box office or less (not impossible), he's out.
James Gunn is a pedophile fuck and all his movies are shit.
>>215112860>fucking Matt Reeves out performing Gunn at the box office and on HBO. The Batman gross over 150 million more than Superman. One season of The Penguin got better viewership than both seasons of Peacemaker combined.>It's fucking over for Gunn and he knows it.>Peacemaker isn't getting a third season according to Gunn and the rest of his pet projects got put in limbo until he can prove that he can draw with Superman.Anyone care for a glass of gout de diamants?
>>215113398Idiot. If they lost them money they’d wait and see how Supergirl performed before even thinking about about a follow up. If Supergirl did well, they’d tell Gunn to focus on Supergirl and Lobo for a follow up. You wouldn’t fast track a follow up thst will focus on Lex Luthor
>>215112678> Given that films generally split their ticket sales 50-50 Will they stop with this bullshit already! Studies get over 70% of opening weekend domestically and it slowly goes down. By the time it reaches 50/50 they put it out on VOD. Why no movies are staying in theaters for long periods of time. Superman made 361 domestically. The Batman made 369 domestically in March with no competition. Why Superman for a sequel fast tracked
He should have had Clark destroy the Taj Mahal and spit on Vishnu. Popularity with jeets will ruin any brand.
>>215113811>Studies get over 70% of opening weekend domesticallyStudies of what sir
>>215113856India wasn’t even in a top five countries for Superman. F1, Rebirth and F4 made more money in India
>>215113811>Studies get over 70% of opening weekendThat was only Disney pre covid during their insane 1 billion movies streak. No movie nowadays is getting a 70/30 split. Theaters would go bankrupt.
>>215113881Having worked at box office as teen. Studies get over 70% opening weekend box office. Each week it slowly goes down. Why put movies on steaming around 35-45 days right when it’s 50% for the theaters. Why movie theaters going bankrupt. Not making enough on ticket sales to cover the overhead. They’re loading up advertisements before the movie
>>215113930It’s a sliding scale. It goes down each week. And theaters are going bankrupt. AMC is in massive debt
>>215112841Snyderfags don't have a leg to stand on vis a vis flops. Netflix gave him the keys to the kingdom and he tripped over his own dick in epic fashion.
>>215111960>Huh, who knew?Everyone with an IQ above 60. All the numbers were so transparently disappointing.
So when this future trainwreck bombs at the box office Gunn is getting fired. There is no way in hell they can spin this doing well if it doesn't do Wonder Woman numbers which was 800 million. I am guessing it flops to 195-250 millon worldwide and Gunn's Superman saga becomes a trilogy and with him finishing the story in Man of Tomorrow.
It's literally partially made with AI, thus it's slop.
>>215114147That’s only because China and Asian countries are boycotting superhero movies so they’re not inflating the numbers. But irrelevant since studios only get 25% of profits out of China. So MOS 63 million in China the studio only netted 15 million of it
>>215114159There are so many DC characters, why a fucking Supergirl movie? Why not try to redeem Green Lantern? Or use the Black Panther playbook and get black people out for a Static/Milestone movie. Batman Beyond. Anything.
>>215114147There was this same pretending when Man of Steel's numbers were so low. WB pumped more money into it than Disney did The Avengers, bigger marketing budget too, and it pretty well fizzled.Or all the budget, rewriting and marketing thrown at The Flash, for nothing.DC is a cursed property for them, Batman aside.
>>215114303WB has already made a Supergirl movie, and it was so forgettably bad they didn't even bother releasing it in US theaters.
>>215114123>Netflix gave him the keys to the kingdom and he tripped over his own dick in epic fashion.Snyder fucks up everything except capeshit that's why its the best place for him.
>>215114381Snyder made one (1) good zombie flick and a crazy adaptation of Frank Miller's 300.Everything else he's personally directed has been underperforming slop.The only true WB/DC successes during his tenure were when he wasn't directing.
>sources say
None of these idiots are studio insiders. WB stated it made 125 million in profit and the way they’re acting confirms this. Look how WB acted with MOS compared to this movie. It’s getting a sequel fast tracked that will focus a lot on Lex Luthor! And it’s being put out again in heavily competitive July. That is opposite of what a studio would do it didn’t make them and money.
>>215114442>The only true WB/DC successes during his tenure were when he wasn't directing.
>>215111960I did.Only people I saw talking about it were twitter accounts of various topics that seem like they could be run by Indians.When something's good, you hear about it IRL.
>>215111960Not a good time to be a character in any way representative of Shitmerica.
Still waiting for someone to tell me one movie that was a financial bomb that got sequel fast tracked and put out during July blockbuster month
>>215111960WB is trying to sell DC, obviously they're going to use bullshit to embellish its success and value.
>>215113398I don't personally think he's even going to get to make it. I think WB is at least smart enough to wait until after Supergirl to give Gunn the move. When Supergirl flops he'll be out.
>>215114442>Snyder made one (1) good zombie flickThen why do DC fans still love him a full decade after his movies?No one gives a shit about any of the other DC directors save maybe Nolan.
>>215115898>Then why do DC fans still love him a full decade after his movies?Odd case of a normie cult following.
>>215114253>boycotting superhero moviesexplain
>>215116306Trump’s trade war with China and Asian countries. Every capeshit movie has bombed in China this year. F4 had the worst showing in China for a MCU movie in over a decade. It came 5th on its opening weekend in China behind four chink movies they flooded theaters with. Now China is claiming some chink movie made almost two billion dollars. Japs been doing the same thing for a while
>>215112678>Given that films generally split their ticket sales 50-50 with theater owners,no source at all
>>215114491>>215114881Anon all the Superman being profitable talk is just PR to make it seem like Gunn's DCU is not a bomb. Once Supergirl bombs you will see The Man of Tomorrow be confirmed as the final Superman saga film. They are trying to finish Gunn's contract to fire him and make DC a elseworld franchise.
>>215117137These clickbait sites are so dumb. They’re still scratching their heads why studios are pulling movies out theaters after 35 days and putting it on VOD. Can’t figure out that’s when theaters get 50% of ticket sales.
>>215117326That is the most retarded ass pull take.
>>215117326So instead just putting Gunn in a title only position which they basically did with Snyder, they are fast tracking atleast 200 million dollar follow up sequel to a movie that supposedly bombed which would guarantee the follow up be a even bigger bomb. Do you understand how mentally retarded you are
>>215111960Everyone who wasn't a shill. Companies always lie.
>>215112591>Like with that money, you'd think they'd do extensive research on what the market wants to see.That also produces a bad movie.
Everyone who wasn't an obvious Gunnjeet knew. This movie had massive amount of shilling and they even boasted of having the most viewed trailer on Youtube ever (not impressive when they pay Google to shove it everywhere) and still the BO was a dud. Less than MoS not even accounting for inflation is a huge fail. The narrative that Snyder was holding Superman back crashed instantly. In fact it turns out Superman was mostly only successful with Snyder directing.
>be Gunn>be an extremely shitty writer and director that only found success being tard wrangled by Feige>somehow your pedo narcissism makes you think you're hot shit after three movies of genocidal CG racoon dropping quips>go to DC>somehow trick the dumb fuck suits to make you head of DC, immediately multiple big budget DC movies flop and are cancelled>The Batman 2 is on hold as Gunn fights to steal the character>finally releases his DC Superman movie (his soiboi army pretended TSS never happened)>despite huge gaslighting by the online soiboi community, the movie becomes a flop with International audiences and far behind MoS not even adjusting for inflation>has to keep shill Peacemaker wherever possible, making Peacemaker more important than the actual man of steel>all upcoming projects are inbound flops and only appealing to a soiboi online forum warrior like Gunn>doesn't even dare to call Man of Tomorrow a Superman sequelBRAVOOOOO
Warner never claimed it made 125m in profits. In fact they denied that claim.
>>215115898What the fuck are you talking about, retard? Real DC fans hate Snyder, even the DC writers hate Snyder shit, he ruined Superman with his faggy emo "Don't save me son" bullshit. Just because Gunn made a dumpster fire you niggas are trying to spin Snyder as some auteur lmao, fucking embarassing.
>>215117628>Real DC fans>DC writersLike pic related?
>>215117628You must be retard.DC fans love Snyder. Looks the comments on his Justice League cut.Touch some grass
>>215117655Nice wojaks, jeet. I bet you can't even name a single relevant Superman writer.
Unless you work at studio, you have no idea what the profit cuts is. All these expert “analysts” have no idea. Batman Begins cost 150 million plus promotions and only made 375 million. Yet a sequel was announced immediately and was viewed as success by the studio. Bottom line is you don’t fast track over 200 million follow up and put out in July to a movie that was a financial bomb
>>215117684Cope Gunnjeet. Real fans loved Snyder's Superman. Only a vocal minority of fat neckbeard losers who wanted manchild Gunn slop instead.
>>215117701BB had really good legs, reviews and general perception. Neither of which applies to Starlordman. It was also released before the capeshit craze which it start.
>>215111960 Honestly for cape slop it wasn't that bad. It's one of those things where you watch it and you can definitely tell that any kind of political or cringe that comes from it is probably imagined and perceived on social media and spread around even when they're isn't any. I remember James Gunn talking about how Superman was an immigrant and how his freedom and status or whatever we're going to play a part in the movie but then he turned around and literally did stole not only the "Invincible" evil superman meme but the "The boyz" dark edgy clone of superman meme. It did really make me hate that I'm a punk rocker yes I am song at the end but again I feel like it's more because of these stupid cringee reels and memes that I see by lgbt basement dwellers online. The whole "maybe we needed a vulnerable basedperman instead of ZS's Edgy-man" bullshit they post about Cavill "letting" everyone die in the capital building when they state flat out that he couldnt see it. Anyways, and summary, I feel like if nobody had said anything political about it whatsoever, probably stepping from gun's own edgy postings, it probably would have made more money and been able to stand on its own merit without anybody applying anything political. I think having a competent Lex Luther was a big part of it and his side of the Isle brought a lot to the story.
>>215117720>it's 7.1 now at 320k reviewsMoS is also at 7.1 but with 800k reviews. So this means Starlordman will drop below MoS in IMDB ratings too, despite a concentrated shill effort to boost reviews.
>>215117720Grant Morrison hates MOS and didn’t want Snyder using his lines in MOS. He also like most Superman writers and fans hates Injustice
>>215117802>Grant MorrisonYou dropped your soi sucking his gay dick
>>215117735Superman had great legs you retard. It made 362 million domestically. The Batman made 369 million domestically in March with no competitions. Superman had F4 come out two weeks later and only dropped 57% with chunks of theaters and IMAX’s taken
Remember when ZSJL released and there was a huge campaign to denounce it as a bully tactics victory? And how they spent the years before that saying the Snyder cut was just a fanboy incel fantasy? These same people suck Gunn's pedophile dick now.
>>215117828Your boyfriend Snyder used his lines in MOS. But since you don’t know shit about what you’re talking about you’d have no idea about that
>>215117839>great legsIt got outraced by F1, a movie that released a month earlier.
>>215117862Yes, JL movie where Superman is in it for 22 minutes of a three hour plus movie
>>215117866Fag Morrison should be honored someone turned his homo slop into something decent.
>>215111960I'm starting to wonder if guardians of the galaxy had some kind of shadow writer / director. Cause this faggot obviously can't make good movies.
>>215117879F1 made 189 million domestically. You call that legs?
AHHHH SAVE ME FROM THIS MINECRAFT LAVA MY CGI DEUS EX DOG, THE CGI ALIEN BABY IS CRYING!!!!!!
>>215117918>domesticallyThey release these movies worldwide little shill. And Superman was marketed heavily internationally.
>>215114381>Snyder fucks up everything except capeshit that's why its the best place for him.He doesn't make any good movies, just because the superhero ones are the least bad doesn't mean we need to see more of them.
>>215117937Nobody cares what you brown faggots think. You don’t matter. Never have. Man of Tomorrow, 2027
This movie came out almost 3 months ago. It is incredible that people are still seething about it. It's too late to make it fail, it's already getting a sequel, what do you really think crying will accomplish at this point?
>>215117968>yet another Gunn team up slop with lame action scenes set to 80's one hit wonders WOW I CAN'T WAIT!!
The first trailer made everyone who isn't an obese manchild Amerifat NOPE the fuck out.
>>215111960no shit?
>>215111960DC should be a cool and epic, not a gay comedy. The only thing carrying it was Gunn’s name and even that doesn’t seem good anymore.
>>215113720Idiot they knew of they didn't get this fast tracked now it wouldn't get off the ground after Supergirl bombs
>>215114442Unironically true
Lol p*do gunn fans are idiot he is a failure and a c*ck everyone love Zack Snyder movies and Henry Cavill is best actor and best Superman and they made art I hope Warner hires back again Zack Snyder he can save the superhero movies
>>215118471Calm down Raj.
>>215112591Market research is useless past a certain scale, especially for creative products.When you make a product for everybody you make a product for nobody.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-quadrant_movieFour quad movies have been a disaster long term, that’s why every tent pole movie has a romance plot tasted in Becuase you need to appeal to that demographic, plus a kid thing, etc.Marketing wilt just tell you they want a sexy comedic action drama with lots of soul and serious drama with a happy ending spy thriller with lots of sci-fi armies that fall in love staring to. Hanks and Greta
>>215113003generic anime shit for autists will not cut it son.
>>215118042Superman has always been for 6 year olds and I am tired of pretending
>>215118697It's shocking to me that the animated series was both better written and more mature than any of these blockbuster movies.
>>215118403Who the fuck is “they?” Zaslov is the one that fast tracked it. Gunn has zero authority over what gets approved. If this was financial bomb they’d be doing same thing as they did with MOS. Wanting a major course redirection. They’d definitely wait to see how Supergirl performs. They for sure wouldn’t approve of a follow up that focuses on Lex Luthor. Nor would put it out in July. They’d dump in March like they did with BvS
>>215114696This image is retarded cope for snyderfags but man i'm shocked black adam did that well, interesting to see how much better than everything else post the first aquaman aquaman 2 did
>>215117802Yet he praised BvS.
>>215114491 see >>215117601Some writer for Variety pulled the 125 million figure out of his ass and Gunn's retarded fanboys took it as truth.
>>215117911It did. There is a whole ass controversy over writing credits regarding that movie.
>>215117968The majority of the Superman audience was brown.
>>215118980I don’t give a shit about unconfirmed numbers. Only r eddit faggots and Snyder losers do. It’s getting a sequel fast track which confirms it must’ve done well. Not a single one you Snyder losers can tell me one fucking movie that was a bomb that got sequel fast tracked.
