Do you think Hollywood regrets what they did? Have they realized how hard they fucked up yet?
No. It's not about that. It's about pushing the propaganda and their mental illness onto the public.And for that they were successful.
>>215117921Let 50 year old franchises dieThey shouldn't have been around long enough for it to have come to this
>>215117921No, they're still doing "maybe if we double down again it will work this time"
>>215117921Aktshually, Dr. Who was killed by a gay nigger.>>21511797020-year moratorium on all franchises from before 2010 when?
>>215117957Being successful would require the public to watch
>>215117921I don't think these people know what regret is.
>>215117921>he thinks its about the money
>>215117921The characters aren't the problem they are emblematic of the problem. You could swap them out and those franchises would still be shit
>>215117921Not really the actress's fault. (but I don't let them off the hook, they agreed to do it)
>>215118041No faggot, the insufferable girlbosses are the problem
>>215117921all of these franchises were doomed anyway. swap out the characters to white men and they still flop because they're just bad
>>215118176You're both right. He's just talking about the ones shitting up writers rooms. They would write shit male characters as well (and do)
>>215117921jeets love it so, no...
>>215118176Not just. The hyper-annoying fags (and I mean HYPER, they are annoying AF to even look at) and fat dykes do their part. If you are talking about Discovery, EVERY character is god-awful except the alien guy. Disco is special its EVERYTHING wrong with woke tv in one package, turned up to the max.
>>215117921No, they don't care. They see those franchises as whores to be used and abused. They trot them out under whatever new woke guise, pump em for all they're worth and toss them away once they're useless. And the actors themselves simply fail upward. Ridley is working again. No idea about the british chick. The black one CBS simply moved to some firefighter show where of course she's again playing a girlboss. It doesn't end until they run out of writers or the audience completely disappears
>>215118411It's also a troll. I heard there are musical (what the mf?) episodes on the Bohannon show.
>>215117921They'll only regret it when they realize their propaganda doesn't work anymore because no one wants to watch anything anymore.
>>215118530New Worlds. It was suppose to be a "return to form" Star Trek show after the bullshit that was Discovery and the first two seasons of Picard. It started off promising but within a few episodes it jumped straight back into the bullshit that sank Discovery/Picard. And yes, there was a musical episode. They had to close a spacial anomaly using the power of song and dance. Nu-trek is a disaster
>>215117957FPBPOnly a retard would think modern business has anything to do with making what the public wants now. Like every other company that coincidentally does the opposite of what the public wants, these studios too have long been bought by Blackrock. It's more profitable to push these faggot globohomo agendas to meet Blackrock's ECG scores than to actually make something not faggified.
>>215117921Daisy and Jodie deserved better writers
>>215118162>but I don't let them off the hook, they agreed to do itI don't doubt that there is reasonable disconnect between what they see before signing and what comes out of post-production. But they usually are actively defending it and embodying it on the press tour ("mary sue is sexist" etc), so fuck 'em regardless.
>>215117921They did society a service by killing off these manchild franchises.
>>215117921This is some clickfarming anti-woke twitter account I would guess, because none of that is true.Doctor Who might be on the ropes but Star Trek persists and Star Wars has generated great wealth for Disney.Go woke go broke really didn't pan out for chuds, they all watch this shit wether its good or bad
>>215118926>Go woke go broke really didn't pan outIf Blackrock wasn't keeping them afloat for meeting their faggot metrics, these companies and their faggot employees like you would've ben bankrupt a decade ago. And you know it, faggot.
>>215117921probably not considering they are still fucking doing it with the marvel shit
>>215117957Even by that metric they failed. You can't push propaganda without a vehicle. They just blew up their delivery mechanism by going all in inside out trying to subtly inject it over time. Now they've alienated large audiences that will not consume anything they try and peddle on them.
>>215118038Horsey NEEDS to do porn
>>215118180If Star Wars simply adapted the EU and new republic books and New Jedi Order star wars would still be massive right now.
>>215118642>>215118530Theater kid fag writers ruin absolutely everything they touch
>>215117921No and no.Also the prequels killed star wars. The mouse is just desecrating its corpse.
>>215117921You're missing the point. Do you think parasites regret it when they kill the host before moving onto the next one?>lrn2communism n00bThese people can't create or produce anything of value themselves, only undermine and destroy. That's WHAT they do. That's ALL they do.If you own a widget factory that produces the best widgets on Earth and these people get a foothold, the last thing they care about is efficient widget production, widget quality, or even the bottom line when it comes to actual widget sales.What they DO care about is being in control, having a position and air of authority over other people, and presiding over someone else's shit - even as they run it into the ground and make every excuse under the sun. They see the old white male in his office, don't understand what he does to earn his money in the first place, and think they can do his 'easy job', (which in their minds is sitting behind a desk, acting like a bigshot, telling people what to do - hence Admiral Holdo).They bring in as many of their unqualified parasitic friends as they can and drain the enterprise of all capital value and goodwill - literally in the case of the starship Enterprise. Speaking of which:https://youtu.be/Q3XIsU_6Phg?t=59It was ever so, and you Zoomies need to get your history figured out before the commies adapt - yet again - to sell you the same old shit under a different name.
>>215119183I love musical stuff in comedy but it has no place in dramatic fiction (unless the thing is entirely a musical production). "Theater kid faggotry" is exactly what I also call it.
>>215119217The prequels are the highest grossing independent movies of all time made entirely outside the Hollywood system. They sold a shit ton of merchandise and are beloved today. The last jedi is what killed star wars beyond repair.
In no sense are any of those franchises dead, and also don't you people have any sense of shame? Are you really able to think to yourself "the problem is not me, it's a vast conspiracy by all of hollywood" ?
>>215117997the gaynigger from outer space is pretty good, the gay showrunner not so much
>>215117921What exactly is a good, effective example of a female main character in recent cinema? What are you guys looking for?
>>215119318unironically Furiosa
>>215119183>>215119262If they did it in drama the same way it gets done in comedy it wouldn't even be quite so offensive but they absolutely cannot help but go full GLEE faggotry.
>>215119343Every single show needs a musical episode now they submit to the emmies for awards, theater fags can't help themselves and all the gay actors love doing it too.
>>215119217George has actual artistic talent, he just made some bad films, (and there were plenty of reasons for that, including him egotistically believing his own press and thinking the success of the original trilogy was all his own doing).The irony is that every time the artless diversity hire faggots at NuDisney fuck up they actually delude themselves that it's just bad luck, and even good producers/directors make a bad movie from time to time, and they double down on the next one like they're Nick fucking Leeson.Any failure can be explained away, and any blip of success, (often the result of other factors like remaining pale, stale, male talent or circumstance like putting Captain Marvel between Infinity War and Endgame), is MOAR PROOF!!!1!!!11!!!2! what they are doing is actually working.
>>215118828to be fair, they are contractually obligated to promote the film regardless of how they actually feel
>>215119271>The prequels are the highest grossing independent movies of all time made entirely outside the Hollywood system....and are bad movies.>They sold a shit ton of merchandiseyup>and are beloved today.nope
Strange New Worlds has a straight white male captain and it sucks. Capaldi is a fantastic actor but he also had some pretty awful and woke writing and same thing with Tennant 2.0 except he isn't even that good at acting. I never cared about Star Wars so I can't comment on that. Those characters are a symptom but they are not the problem or at least not the biggest problem.
Do the same people still have their jobs?
It's how they did it that ruined it, now female leads in these type of shows are cringe by default.
>>215119452This.I wanted to like them, but was disappointed from the first boring-as-fuck entry. Like The Force Awakens the best I could say is that it could recover in the next film, but of course we know that it never did.I rewatched them later after the dust had settled just a couple of years ago and nope, Phantom Menace is still a borefest, Attack of the Clones is braindead garbage, and Revenge of the Sith is risible insult to the OT. The best you can say about them is they had some interesting ideas and characters in there somewhere, but no George, fail. In retrospect you can also say they 'felt' more like actual Star Wars - at least in terms of the setting itself, unlike the Disney shit.I don't know whether to criticise George or feel sorry for him. He dun goof'd and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. You can't take the OT away from him, but then again him fucking up the prequels led to the Disney sale and Kathleen Kennedy, so that's all on him too. In the end the IP would have been better off left as is, protected. Sad, but true, and definitely not the right era or company to sell it to. Old Disney might have used their money, clout, and genuine creative talent to do something with it, that's the pity of it too. Pretty sure George was thinking the same thing, not knowing how compromised Disney actually was.
>>215119342Yep. Fury Road should be required watching at wherever these hacks go to learn how to write.
>>215119296lmao you think this is limited to hollywood?
>>215117921It's about breaking our toys.
>>215119473>Strange New Worlds has a straight white male captain and it sucksI don't need to watch to know their Kirk is neutered and boring and not the cool, suave, infuriating, arrogant, charming, charismatic white male William Shatner was. Of course that sucks. That's not Kirk.
>>215119916I also don't need to watch it to know that Kirk will be overshadowed and made to seem mid compared to the lesbians that the show is built around.
our girls won
>>215120151wrong thread, bad bot.
>>215117921Ah yes, followups to masterfully crafted garbage like Voyager.
>>215120130All part of making Kirk neutered and bad. Stick to William Shatner and Chris Pine Kirk.
>>215118926Dr Who is deadStar Trek is deader than dead, and frogottenSW has been in LMAO mode since prequelshit, and disney menaged to make it even more deadGet woke go broke, faggot invader. Everyone voted against you, even 'your' side
>>215119217this>>215119271lmao nobody ever liked that shit
>>215119671The prequels at least led to some good video games
>>215120451
>>215119318In recent cinema?none>>215119342>>215119713>FlopiosaNo it's shit, like Fury RoadBorig lame crap
>>215117921>Do you think (((Hollywood))) regrets what they did?FUCK NO!Only utterly SEETHING that the goy isn't falling for their jewish tricks, that's why they're doubling down till the money runs out.
>>215120262>Chris Pine Kirk.that's shit and not Kirk
>>215119713Fury Shit doesn't even have writing, characters or dialogue.
>>215120151looks awful
>>215120603oops 4chan deleted my neovagina selfie
>>215120560Eh I like him enough.
>>215119166Nah it'd still be gay, the prequels were utter horse shit too and the fucking cartoons, Jesus Christ. Nerds have to just accept that the Star Wars OT was lightning in a bottle and a product of its time, there's no improving it, replicating it or reliving the memories again, it's over.I'm a big fan of TNG as well and I still enjoy watching it but I've never watched the original series and never will. Because it means nothing to me and I feel the same about nutrek, it was never going to be for me, and I didn't waste a second of my life on it. Lastly, Dr Who has always been shit and always will and only retards ever cared about it.
>>215120657>I've never watched the original series and never will.You fag.
>>215118038Literally what even is the joke in this? Or is TDS just baseline humour now?
>>215120769orange man bad
>>215117921Nerds ruined Hollywood so I'm pretty happy that Hollywood destroyed their favorite franchises.
>>215120711No u.
>>215118411Niggazzzziggazzziggaazzzz In Spaaaaaa-ace AceAceIn theatuhs this Chwissmiss
>>215118038lolwut
>>215117970yes, kill old franchises, luckily now that they are dead we have a replacements in… ???? ?
>>215117957this post is mental illness
>>215117921Discovery is different, though. Just from watching S1 you can tell it's a standalone script that execs forced someone to Frankenstein into Star Trek. Also, it has the decency to write itself out for reality in the end, so that's something.
>>215120554>Midevh summoning orcs to Azeroth colorized
>>215120657>I've never watched the original series and never will.A pity. It's great, and pure Star Trek.I love TNG, but Kirk & Co. are peak
>>215120950A desert is still better than a zombies filled cloaca
>>215121191yeah, they weren't succesful.Get woke go broke
>>215121395you WILL eat the zombie cloacasome Yidds need to catch your attention and make fuckin shekels
>>215118038>the whole rapture shit was started by a black dude>make the religious nut whiteYou don't hate these people enough.
They could make good female characters. The problem is the gave unqualified hack writers the jobs and the characters sort of reflected themselves. Women given great power for no reason.
>>215121401The star wars sequal trilogy was largely a bad series of films, that squandered audience goodwill to the point where the third one made only half the first one. The Rise of Skywalker made a bit more than a billion dollars in ticket sales alone, not counting tie in games, toy sales, etc.
>>215118804This is true but what does Blackrock gain from that long term? I know a globo-homo blob culture. It just all seems so destructive. Like it cant be economically profitable long term.
>>215120434>nuh uh lalala i cant hear you powerful...
>>215121483>The Rise of SkywalkerThe title doesnt even make sense. Leia died in it. Kylo changed his name to Ren. Rey just liked the name and stole it. (unless she figured out that she could kind of be Vader's sister from having a shared father but I dont think the writers even thought of that)
>>215121439i thought it was by bible bashing boomer grifters with christian tv networks?
>>215121525>seems so destructiveAnd that is by design. Eighty years ago the architects of the current status-quo could never have imagined something like the internet or modern information technology, it's a huge impediment to their ambitions of absolute, hidden control. If it is all destroyed they will still command the majority of financial and material resources, so they can just start again with new technologies built-in and neutered.
>>215120151>our girls w-ACK
No. Not a single figure in Hollywood has ever apologized for ruining our franchises and turning them into far-left agitprop. They don't regret it and feel nothing but contempt for the little people.
>>215121724>the internet or modern information technology, it's a huge impediment to their ambitions of absolute, hidden control.LMAO, it is the exact opposite of that, you dumbass lardo. It is a battlefield of small minded misdirected resentments, it is the ultimate distracting bread and circus.
>>215121794Personally I have nothing but contempt for anyone who stuck with these thinly written corporate franchises for decades, pumping their energy and money into being "devoted fans" way past the point where all traces of creativity were exhausted completely. (For Star Wars, it was "Han and Leia will spend the rest of the movie outside the door while the teddy bears have their picnic").That was the cutoff point for anyone who wasn't at least slightly retarded.
>>215121794i do vaguely recall JarJar Abrams, right after the release of Rise of the Skywalker, sort of having a confessional moment in front of a camera at another big eventyoutu.be/TxtBKiuDo68?si=gB-s3d68xmZo52Kt
>>215121844This is the opinion of a man who knows he's been paid a lot of money to make a high-budget version of H.R. Puffinstuff (with lazor swords) for infantiles.
>>215117921>star trek hasn't been star trek since the 2009 reboot movie>star wars prequels are over 20 years old>doctor who ratings were already in freefall by capaldi's run>WOMEN DID THISlmao, how underage are you?
>>215117921They don't regret it at all. They just blame the fans.
>>215121891Extremely reasonable. Fans of science fiction should be asking for fresh ideas, or at the very least movies based on classics.Not Star Trek XXI, the Search for Data's Cat.
>>215118642>series established that klingons have a pretty well defined musical culture>decide to write a shitty musical episode>the characters meet a bunch of klingons>should we actually show what a klingon opera looks like for once>nah better make them do some gay danceI'm still mad about this
>>215118642>some episodes are pure retarded dogshitYes, that's accurate with "return to form". You're not going to sit here and tell me that old "classic" Star Trek wasn't 50% hot diarrhea on an August afternoon.>and i'm saying this as a huge star trek fan
>>215118642this scene i felt, was a high-level satirisation of star trek. I found it amusing, it would have worked with a bored relative of Q forcing everyone to sing i suppose.If they were better writers it could have worked.
>>215121993Now you sound like a comic book fan. >This would work, with better writers.This media does not attract "better writers", why would it?
>>215121971It's easier to tolerate a bunch of shitty episodes when you're getting ~25 episodes a year. It's more of an issue when you're only getting 10 episodes once every 2 years and only 2 out of 10 of them are OK at best.
>>215118038>heh im so smart even tho I'm wearing a (((cross))) and pretend magic is realGas leftwing christrannies the right-wing ones already piss me off but the lefties are supposed to he against christroon influence now every faggot wants you to kneel to Rabbi Yeshua
>>215122037>It's easier to tolerate a bunch of shitty episodesThere's the entire problem with this genre of entertainment, fanbases that will eat shit.
>>215122026i know its shit, its why i don't even think about trying to watch that goyslop, im just making the point to provide some context anon. The descendants of nepotistic jews can only destroy, they have not inherited the talents of their parents.
>>215122136And I'm making the point that corporate franchises churning out shit for >>215122037 shit-eater's consumption will never attract truly talented writers/directors/talent. Why would it?Do you think talented creatives have attending conventions full of smelly losers as as their endgame aspiration?
>>215122136Nobody with a shred of creativity is going to apply to take over a franchise where the residuals mainly go into the pocket of the Boomer who originally conceived of it, or worse the media corporation he cashed it out to.The very idea is the height of stupidity.
>>215119262In a season of 26 episodes you can get away with a silly musical episode. When there are just 10? It stands out more and defines the show.
>>215122374>My candy being 5% rat turds if fine and dandy. 10% though? Way overboard.Go read a fucking book.
>>215122409Yes, you autistic retard, just because I might not like 5% of a book doesn't mean that I won't like the rest
>>215122450You're engaging with the umpteenth iteration of a show that was created to engage with people who aren't particularly fans of the science-fiction genre, giving the 60's-70's audience a presentation of social issues and melodrama in a "space age" context. It was never deep, it was never intended to be deep, it occasionally challenged the biases and mores of Boomer Protestants, and that's about it.Now it is just the fanfiction of a fanfiction of a fanfiction, and you really need to replace it in your head with something that isn't Corporate Shit.
>>215117921>>215117921You know who really killed these series. Those actors just showed up and got paid, the guys steering the ship are the ones who crashed it.
>>215122374No. Musicals are shit for fags and women(spiritual fags). They're shit as whole productions, they're shit on stage, they're shit on film, and importantly they're shit in any quantity no matter how small. One singular solitary musical number is enough to ruin any show, film, or theatre production if the viewer is a straight male. This is why you poofters used to get bullied and it's why we never should have stopped.
>music makes you gaykek, what an insecure little faggot.
>>215122579Gilbert and Sullivan are kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AtEIuagK-kAlthough I think it is technically an opera and not a musical.
>>215122725>musicals are musickek, what a delusional little faggot.
>>215117957yeah, but thats not working eithertheres no revenue AND normies cant stand them
>>215117921Star wars died when Return of the Jedi was shite. the prequels only had one woman and were shit. Doctor Doom is still alive.Star Trek is the weirdest one. Picard is not led by woman and is hated. I have no idea why it lost the steam during the era of TNG,DS9 and Voyager
>>215123377This.
>>215121714No, it was some preacher scammer in Africa
>>215121576You said stupid fake shit. You were corrected.I'ts simple as that.
>>215117921It all started when they removed Ms. Marvel's leotard, put on pants, called an actress with a woke agenda and when Warner decided to call a skeleton to play Wonder Woman, after that, gays directors, woke producers and trannies took over Hollywood.
Writers rooms used to be 50% nepotism, 50% talent. Now they’re 50% nepotism, 40% worthless gay brown DEI, and 10% talent.
>>215121842THIS.SW is 3 moviesTerminator, Alien, Predator, Ghostbuster are 2 moviesIndiana Jones and Rambo are 3 moviesAnd they all ended ages ago. Move on. If don't, you are not a fan, you are just a faggot consumer
>>215121912Actual fans has been asking for new shit for ages. Franchisetards are our enemy
>>215121971Bad star trek >>>>>>>> I piss and shit on star trek while pretending to be star trek
>>215123473found the 12 year old.
>>215121844he's got a dick for a nose
>>215117921>Star Wars: $12B in revenue between Disney purchase and 2024>Star Trek: $2.6B from streaming since P+ launched>Doctor Who: Not "Hollywood", just loicense funded slop that will never go away
>>215120950Rebel Moon was right there man
>>215123698>>Doctor Who: Not "Hollywood", just loicense funded slop that will never go awaythe latest run of doctor who with the black dude was funded by disney, because the bbc were ready to either shelve it again or cut it's budget massively. being license funded doesn't equal infinite money to stay in production forever, bbc shows on average have less to work with than equivalent shows on other networks, it's half the reason doctor who has a reputation for looking like cheap shit, because it mostly is.
>>215117921It's crazy that Star Trek was murdered as brutally as it was (and continues to have its corpse defiled) considering it believed in the commie dream where people were completely provided by the State for every aspect of their life. I thought that was the kind of obedience and slavery they wanted.
>>215117921Do you actually think the people making these shows ever actually cared? The creators saw money waved to make a show that can fall back on a strong IP, and those driving the direction of the production just care about pushing the message™ no matter the results or backlash.SNW was a trojan horse in the end, started off with a little bit of promise and is now speeding downwards as it spirals down the slop drain.Actual Star Trek died either after Insurrection or after Enterprise depending on your criteria.Nemesis was a half assed shitshow made by someone who proudly proclaimed they knew nothing about Star Trek and wouldn't bother to, well before JJ added made it worse with "I hate Star Trek, too cerebral".Us old fans need to realise that not only is it dead, they're taking delight in beating a dead horse and dressing up as it.
>>215117921The Doctor Who one is crazy because it wasn't just replacing the main character with a female. They literally clumsily rewrote the characters entire backstory (and shows lore) just to make it so he was actually always a black female refugee. It's like a /pol/ shitpost come to life
>>215123839>Actual Star Trek died either after star trek Insurrectionwhy Insurrection specifically?I thought it was fine, basically an episode of TNG made into a movie. I'd pick any of the other TNG movies as a better pick for when star trek died (including First Contact).
>>215121912>fresh ideas>a female bipoc with an ugly haircut
>>215117921Your mistake is assuming that the people responsible ruined them by accident.In reality many of these people have ruined these shows on purpose for no other reason than to spite their old fan bases for the crime of being primarily straight white men.
>>215117921>three decadezoomer hands typed thisdoctor who have been through far worse than this bitch and a couple of faggot writers, and star wars fans are coping through headcannon ever since the prequelsthey both will survive
>>215119166Guys if they just had a 35 billion dollar budget for 500 movies each encapsulating everyone's headcanons and every idea that's ever been posted or theorised on reddit then star wars would've been saved!
I think a better question is did it work out?
>>215123560found the redditard who found he was gay at 13
>>215124266>>three decadeBased zoomer with 0 reading comprehension
>>215123772>considering it believed in the commie dream where people were completely provided by the State for every aspect of their life.Actual Star Trek is far right cyber-hitler reborn according to current leftist standards
>>215124013It's a long TNG episode, and not one of the good ones. But yeah, it was inconsequential
>>215124013No no, I mean after: as in I am OK with insurrection. Nemesis was the first movie that made me think "this is it, it's over".Enterprise debuted in 2001, which in retrospect was alright. But there are people who think it was trash and shouldn't even count as Star Trek. BTW initially it was never Star Trek Enterprise, just Enterprise: which was done on purpose. Slapping on the ST tag is an afterthought as the show sank in the ratings.
>>215117921One day one executive producer was thinking "damn I'm really broke and I need more money but I don't know how to make these movies appeal to more people" *looks at 50% of the market he's missing out on*"Guys i got it"
>>215124513>One day one executive producer was thinking "damn I'm really brokelol
>>215117921>They killed-Retard
Anyone with a brain realized that the decline started already in early 2000s. >franchisesHow can people not understand that this is already a problem?
>>215117957>Their propaganda-The earth is round and evolution is real. Get fucked retard. I don't want a world ruled by retards like you that believe in magic.
>>215123560>liking hot women makes you 12OK fag
>>215121844>>215121874>>215123588
>>215124266>doctor who have been through far worse than this bitch and a couple of faggot writersCurrent Doctor Who is legitimately dead now. They used all of the "break in case of emergency" options (eg bringing back David Tennant and RTD etc) and it didn't work. Viewership got worse, the main actor left and even the remaining retarded fanbase hate the twist cliffhanger that the show ended on. Disney arent renewing and RTD has moved on to another show already. It might return in 5 years with another reboot but the brand is pretty irrelevant now
I don't even understand why people watch this stuff in the first place. It's like you all pretend you've seen all the classics and there's nothing else to watch, but some shitty capeshit flicks with girlbosses. Why would you even watch any of this?>>215124563Do you just watch this stuff because you're a franchise whore or what?
>>215118041This >>215118176It really isn't you fucking inbred loser, it's the terrible writing and lack of care for the source material. Sarah Conner and Ripley are strong women and no one cared.
>>215121844Did all this for his daughter to have the worst music ever and tweet about wanting to fuck 14 year olds
>>215117957idk I still watch old trek all the time, so if the goal was to get me to not do that it didn't work
>>215124607>seething there aren't enough hot women in non-porn media makes you 12Indeed, glad we could agree
>>215124585You're wrong also. Yeah, god isn't real, and a magical perfect equality amongst various subgroup within the human population isn't either.The idea that behaviorally humans are perfect blank slates without any influence from genetics is as unscientific and absurd as the idea that the world was created in six days.
>>215122254Seth Mcfairlane wanted to, and they rejected him, then he made the Orville, which was a pretty solid job overall, despite the cringy tranny narrative at times.
>>215124675>porn out of nowhereOh you're a goonerSorry that jacking off for 8 hours a day to porn has fried your ability to enjoy hot women in normal media
>>215124634>Sarah Conner and Ripley are strong women and no one cared.They weren't insufferable girlbosses, you illiterate shit dick
>>215117921Oh yeah, it wasn't the horrible scripts, the confused marketing. Also the star wars sequels didn't make billions of dollars.It was the actresses ruining everything because I'm fat and can't get laid.
Anyone remember the Watchmen reboot?
>>215124513Why would you pander to people who don't enjoy your product while alienating the people who actually do?
>>215125375"those dumb fucks will buy the tickets anyway"
>>215125255>I've never had sex or a relationship but I defend women on the internet so at least im not one of those incels
>>215125375It's called money
>>215125517When you alienate your existing fans to go after people who aren't fans you get less money though
>>215125561They will buy tickets anyway it doesn't matter. Ghost busters 2016 made 229 million off a 144 budget
While the exact marketing cost for Ghostbusters (2016) is not publicly available, studio reports indicated the film would need to make approximately $300 million worldwide to break even, accounting for its $144 million production budget and significant marketing spend. Some reports estimate the total cost, including marketing, reached half a billion dollars, with the film ultimately losing around $70 million
Meanwhile zoomers have their kino role models now
>>215120151drink bleach
>>215125504It seems that post hit too close to home, eh, tubby?
>>215119473>Strange New Worlds has a straight white male captain and it sucks.He's the most emasculated white male in history, 50% of his scenes involve listening to the ugly women emotionally vent while he's wearing an apron and baking.
>>215125871No i just think it's funny when virgins like you defend women on the internet
>>215119882She Hulk used to be so cool too. Damn shame.
>>215125620we can all tell this is AI. just post the screenshot next time.
>>215124635What?
>>215125688thanks for confirming that zoomers are trannies
Probably going to get a lot of hate for this but I think that a lot of you guys are genuinely immature and cannot handle criticism or the idea of a woman that exists for something other than to appeal to sex. I enjoyed she-hulk and you crybabies got the show cancelled because your ego's are so fragile. When you're a young man you pretty much live inside your ego and when you get older you begin to see a lot of the hypocrisy and hidden motivations behind the things you used to do and what other men do. If you don't like something you can just look away you don't need to try to sabotage it.
>>215117921DISCO kick started the Golden Age of Star Trek. Rey Wars made billions. Sorry they made you cry like a little girl who skinned her knee.
>enjoyed she-hulkyou've taken that too far.
>>215126057She also makes music i guess
>>215126005Then why are you trying to change the subject? Are you crying right now?
>>215126255people used to at least try to make bait believable.
>>215126165>you crybabies got the show cancelledthe show got cancelled because nobody watched or enjoyed it.
>>215117921The new star wars were massively successful though.Stop watching youtube grifter 'critics' would be my advice
>>215126165It existed for noone. That's why it was cancelled.Cater to normal people next time. Straight sex sells
>>215126847>things that never happenedLMAO
>>215126866Disney is a publicly listed company.The financial performance of all their subsidiaries is published as a matter of legal obligation.I guess the quartering and critical drinker never told you about this.
>>215117921I just laugh at all the movies coming out that presupposed a kamali win ushering in a thousand year libtard reich
>>215121191He's right though. I'd wasn't a vehicle for propaganda, then you wouldn't get banned for criticizing it.I can't think of any other time in history that companies would so vehemently attack their own consumers.
>>215124585>and evolution is realI've always believed evolution was real.It's actually the core foundation for a lot of things I believe.
>>215126932oh
>>215127122and who got "banned" for criticizing the attempts to target an audience that doesn't exist? use your words.
>>215127255>use your words.The fuck you mean "Use your words"?I don't even know what you're asking for. Like, do you want a full list of everyone who got deplatformed for (rightfully) criticizing companies for alienating their own consumers? Because I only have 2000 characters to work with and over a decade to cover
>>215121191I'm proud of you, anon. the first step is admitting you have a problem.
>>215118038>he
>there is NO SUCH THING as political/ ideological agendas and propaganda>MY SIDE would never do that>but OPPOSING SIDE is doing it!!90% of leftist discourse is pretending that they in fact do not exist. It's honestly creepy that the left is so derranged they come here just to lie about reality. It's like they pretended wokeness didn't exist because it blew up in their face
>>215127185The three sequel films were all highly profitable in their own right but did not recoup the $4B investment.They acquired Lucasfilm, which includes more assets than just Star Wars, but also includes the ongoing rights to produce further Star Wars, obviously.Did you think they were just going to make 3 movies and then dispose of Lucasfilm?
>>215127543this is the level of self-awareness all direction brain retards are operating under.
>>215127736yes, autismos actually believe that the box office from 3 movies had to recoup the entire upfront cost of buying lucasfilm, disney is finished.
>>215127736>which includes more assets than just Star Warsno shit?
>>215127790what I believe is that star wars is a dead franchise. I look forward to your cope when starfighter and the mandalorian and grogu flop.
>>215127396>do you want a full list of everyone who got deplatformedyeah. your testiness tells me you can't produce one, of course.
>>215127894There is not a disagreement from me that Star Wars is now creatively terrible. You are just failing to make the distinction between that and financial success.It won't be a 'dead franchise' until it fails financially, which it isn't.
>>215127894disney has been openly buying its own tickets since black panther.
>>215127894I haven't seen most of nuwars outside of the main three movies and rogue one, I have nothing to cope about, thinking disney is finished because three movies profit didn't cover the total cost of buying lucasfilm is genuinely retarded.
>>215117921Sounds like the fanbase wasn’t loyal at all, also can we really call Star Trek dead when after Discovery we got Picard, Lower Decks,Strange New Worlds and Starfleet Academy?
>>215118642I dont want to live on this planet anymore.
>do pedophiles regret doing bad things?No, the entire point is to destroy everything white and beautiful.
>>215121967All dancing is gay, opera is gay
>>215128048All of those are shit kys
>>215126024I used to ignore Jen was Bruce's cousin and wanted them to get married and have sex and start a family instead. Jen got her powers and loved it. She loves Bruce and does nothing but support and help him out. She was essentially a template for a girlfriend on the old cartoon and I enjoyed it every time she popped up because no one else could understand Bruce on that level and the visual dynamic of watching a beautiful, powerful woman be lighthearted, kind and sweet as she aids her stronger, more dominant counterpart just made me diamonds. In the mind. Watching heterosexual couples beat the crap out of villains and save the day and love one another was endearing and remains that way.I feel nothing for Betty. They made her a Hulk and I still couldn't care less. They hit the magic formula with Jen. Giving this character to female writers is a great example of missing the point. Men wrote She-Hulk for guys and it was so good that women ended up liking it. Women wrote She-Hulk for themselves and the character failed to make waves beyond that limited demographic.
>>215128116That's besides the point, OP is arguing the franchise are dead
>>215127948>your testiness tells me you can't produce one, of course.That depends. How many names do you want? What would sufficiently convince you?
There is surely a growing number of people out there who realize that pissing off nerds ten years ago is not so indirectly responsible for the rise of the "new right".Do you think they're ready to apologize, or nah?
>>215128152all of them.
>>215128187Sure because the new right hijacked the nerds, they brainwashed the nerds and put chains on them
>>215128214You haven't actually put any thought into this.
>>215128236No, I've got a gotcha ready. Post whatever you want.
>>215128138They can crank out show after show but hardly any of them leaves an impact in the public conscious, and the fandom would rather forget them
>>215127185I'm sure they would have liked for the sequel movies to cover the investment but that was always unlikely and very ambitious. If that really is the premise of this article then it's incredibly shallow analysis.
>>215117921The left made shitty propaganda movies since 2012 just like the Soviet Union made a ton of shitty propaganda movies. Hollywood wasn't thinking about making money, they wanted to send the Message. They were fine with financial losses so they could promote social engineering like sodomy, troons, feminism.
>>215127736>highly profitable in their own rightnof for star wars movies
Jews control the world
>>215128260Save us the trouble and post your gotcha now
>>215128269Again stop moving the goalpost but while on the subject do you really think all of Star Trek left an impact? What impact did Voyager, Enterprise and Deep Space Nine leave? Fuck all, out of all the movies only the second one is remembered. 13 movies but only one which had an impact
>>215128027no, it's finished because it's bleeding form every side, not just shit wars
The left hate men and positive male role models.
>>215128048>>215128138all dead irrelevant flops
>>215128319please, make more of a fool of yourself first. show everyone how little you understand.
>>215128324Nutrek was specifically designed to attract normies. Normies said "lol, fuck that".
>>215128230the opposte of woke is normality
>>215128357After you
>>215128270their explicit plan was to have six movies in six years cover the initial investment. they outright canceled the third spinoff movie because solo flopped.
>>215118642SNW is fine in as much as it's the bare minimum.I still don't really like any of the cast apart from the ones from the original series (which hardly counts), and I have still yet to see an episode that made me go "shit, that was a good episode of Star Trek".It's generally inoffensive, and I *can* watch it and not be mad, sure.
>>215128365There was a moment when TNG was literally the single #1 most watched show on earthWere normalfags just 300iq philosopher kings back then?
>>215128365Yet we're getting new series and you didn't even bother to answer my question. >>215128368Your master have trained you well, like an obedient dog
>>215128399No one knows why TNG was such a hit when it aired. No one has been able to replicate that success. It just seemed to have "it".
>>215128399>Were normalfags just 300iq philosopher kings back then?only compared to nowadays. Imagine being raised bysmartphones and modern media
>>215117921>Star Trek was so big they made a giant 100 million dollar theme park >basically everything Galaxy's Edge wanted to be but isn't.https://youtu.be/SDMk8DO4wJ4?t=941Do you really think modern Tranny Trek could ever warrant this???Star Trek fans were known as the MOST dedicated fanbase on earth.It's an entirely different show/franchise at this point.They're not even trying to make something good, and we're forced to share it with psychotic roblox child molesting trannies that make it a part of their identity because otherwise they'd kill themselves?
>>215128424>Imagine being raised bysmartphones and modern mediaThe people of the past was raised on their modern media
>>215117921Mainstreaming nerd culture killed it and nerds are so attention starved they loved it
>>215119318
>>215128375everyone you think was "deplatformed" or whatever for criticizing the direction disney was taking was under contract. standard studio contracts include a non-disparagement clause. This is the cause of the "toxic positivity" environment, where no one is allowed to point out that anything may not work or may not be a good idea. Its also an easy excuse to just cut contracts at no loss for disney.this happened because hollywood's business model was rendered obsolete around 2007, when social media went mainstream. the industry is dead. everything since 2007 has been a performance to create excuses for failures that shift the blame elsewhere. Because no one wants to admit they're working in a dead industry making shit for no one. but admit it or not, it shows progressively more in just about everything that's been over the last 18 years.
>>215123918wasn't the first time it was done to the doctor in the revival though, but yes until the nigger happenin it was little things like clara or river song bullshit about tardis brakes
>>215127543*sign tapping intensifies.
>>215127743>muh BOTH SIDEZIt literally is not le both sides. It's one particular side, the left side. They're the ones who have had media and entertainment control for decades and were actively shoving in their agendas, or in other words propaganda, into everything.Then you have those same cultists denying and deflecting that any of it happened in the first placeSo STFU about muh both sidez, and open your eyes
>>215128230>Abloobloobloo I'm accusing you of doing the things I tried to do, because I lost and got told to fuck off ;__;
>>215128601banks and corporations putting rainbows on their logos doesn't make them "left."
>>215128466>everyone you think was "deplatformed" or whatever for criticizing the direction disney was taking was under contract. standard studio contracts include a non-disparagement clause. This is the cause of the "toxic positivity" environment, where no one is allowed to point out that anything may not work or may not be a good idea. Its also an easy excuse to just cut contracts at no loss for disney.You would have a point if there wasn't a clear direction and bias regarding the employees hired to take their place. This less refutes the matter but more elaborates just how fucked it all is.
>>215128601>>215127543>>215128564You rights ability to always draw the wrong conclusion never stops does it
>>215128442which were1/100 less powerful at causing brainrot and 100000% better made
>>215121191Take your pills to make the mean post go away.
>>215128402All of those shows will last maybe two seasons at most, unless they really try to squeeze out five.
>>215128230>leftists hijack media and use it as a vessel to spout their propagnda>fan base feels alienated and leaves>STAY ON THE PLANTATION SLAVE!!!
>>215128620>What is HR
>>215128622Its a core refutation of the idea the "politics" are anything but performative. weinstein and "cancel culture" was just another way to cut out creatives. also to manufacture an excuse for why random instagram whores are more attractive than any "it" girl they try to force.
>>215128455Subcultures can'tbe mainstream by definition. And those wereing it like a skinsuit were the one who would have fet contempt for actual nerds
>>215128631you lost.
>>215128659a department who's main job is to prevent lawsuits?
>>215124585I want you worthless commie pieces of shit exterminated.
>>215117970>Let old franchises die so so new ones can be born The problem is that they weren't replaced with anything good. The Witcher? Game of Thrones? All replete with the same poorly written, low brow, gay race communist slop that ruined the old franchises.
>>215121971>that old "classic" Star Trek wasn't 50% hot diarrhea on an August afternoon.you'd be surprised at how good it is simply due to how well the lighting, staging, marking, and enunciation is. old trek is about a 1000% more professional than any modern tv slop we get
>>215128660>weinstein and "cancel culture" was just another way to cut out creatives. It occurred right after Trump was elected, you're out of your mind for pretending it wasn't politically motivated.
>>215128656>PropagandaYou keep using words you don't understand >>215128680If that is the case what have you won? An empire of ash and dirt?
>>215128702ah yes, the political connections between harvey weinstein and donald trump. how could i have missed them.
>>215128685And how do they do that? Who is usually hired for that position?
>>215122068Atheists are the most deluded retards on earth.
>>215128601to be fair, these people do think sitcoms from the 90's are "right wing propaganda" at this point, because they'e drifted so far into cloud cuckoo land.Unironically, people think Apu from the Simpsons is some kind of bigoted hate symbol, as opposed to actual pro-immigration propaganda, that worked effectively at the time.
>>215128745people with HR experience? at higher levels, people with law experience?
>>215128742They're both pussy-grabbers.
>>215128709I mean, if we can reduce *your* empire to ash, then by all means, let's get started.
>>215128742Both are rich men who operated in new york, chances are they hanged out at the same places Like Epstein’s island
>>215128756It's funny how everyone hates Indians now.
>>215128742It was a move against the American public for voting him in.
>>215128775oh my god, you cracked the case! they killed the casting couch (that was already dead) and put one of the most successful producers in prison to try to get trump impeached! its all so clear!
>>215128796at least you're closer than the other retard.it was a partial hangout (read: admit something salacious but small and directionless to cover a bigger scandal) as well as an excuse to make it seem like a good thing that they were no longer hiring attractive women.
>>215128763>people with HR experience? at higher levels, people with law experience?Hm. Tell me about their demography. What are the trends in HR?
>>215128850You tell me.
>>215128810desu, what he's saying is they probably drummed up a lot of alarmism about certain kinds of people being predators in Hollywood, specifically to make sure entertainment was even more curated than it had been previously.>you can't just let ""white men"" make movies! People are going to get raped! Where is your intimacy coordinator! Where is your female camera operator who we specifically picked for you! Where are the woman's voices in the writer's room?and so on.
>>215128187The right-wing Nazis forced Hollywood to insert troons, sodomites, girlbosses and blackwashing everywhere.
>>215128827Nothing you've described is mutually exclusive from the political nature of it
>>215117921>ST Discoveryterrible writing>SW NTterrible writing, ever worse directing. Somehow Palpatine has returned>DWProbably the worst showrunner the show's had in its entirety, including the original series, terrible writing, terrible companions, terrible directing. Should've been Jo MartinYou can tie everything back to the writers, directors and showrunners, but I mean, you can stay in the surface and think LE WOMEN BAD>>215121439Are you fucking retarded? John Nelson Darby is white
>>215128873Interesting how they were doing that already tho...
I can see the leftists are raiding again to damage control. They're here to whip us for critcizing the holy cult
>>215128742t blind condescending retard without any argument
>>215118176>girlbossImagine actually using this term thinking you're making some kind of big statement.
>>215128864Overwhelmingly female, menopausal at that.To drop pretense, the position is made for bitter crags who failed upwards and abuse whatever little power they have.
>>215128907>stop criticizing the girlbosses!!!!
>>215128874quid pro quo isn't "politics."
>>215128620They didn't just put le rainbows retard. They were actively kowtowing to left-wing agendas. Nigga Blues Clues did a mf blm drag queen pride paradeI can only assume you're a leftoid damage controlling. You pivot to muh banks to deflect that it is the left's propaganda that is being enforced
>>215128906you don't deserve an argument, you deserved to be mocked for falling for such obvious bullshit.
>>215118642That's not what the D7 cruiser bridge looks like.Klingons are putting their bridges in the middle of giant warehouses.
>>215128864disingenuous post
>ITT: damage controlling leftist cultistsHoly reddit
It is impossible to have an honest discussion with a leftoid because they are entirely disingenous and bad faith
>>215128973cope.at least you ammitted that you had no argument and just wanted to play pidgeon chess
>>215128957You realize that the wake of #metoo has completely devastated the dating scene in the US, right? What part of that was qqp?
>>215128969>left-wing agendaslike strong government and weak private interest? oh, wait, no, you mean identity politics, while supporting the rights of banks, billionaires, and corporations to do whatever they want.
>>215128969>PropagandaAgain with the usage of words you don't understand
>its not happening but it's a good thing anyway but it's a far right conspiracy but I fully support it but it's not real but I think you're a bad person for not supporting but
>>215128907you hate the worde because it's precise
>>215126279how old was she when she posted?
>>215129018The only identity politics they push are the identity politics of the left, numb nuts. They are the ones who are being supported and espoused
>>215129008Why are all men in America rapists? Are they all violent animals that needs castrations? I think you people need Sharia law to control your urges >>215129018>while supporting the rights of banks, billionaires, and corporations to do whatever they want.While also supporting worker rights and heavy taxation on the ultra rich
>>215129045>the identity politics of the leftwhat are the identity politics of the right? this should be good.
>>215129020You can try and redefine the word all you want. He's right though, it's propaganda
>>215118038I don't understand
>>215128934That's right, keep using it. That'll sure own the lefties!
>>215129045The right wing has been using identity politics far longer than the right, they just been using a different identity
>>215129053>worker rights and heavy taxation on the ultra richyou mean things literally no one is talking about since occupy?
>>215129053>Why are all men in America rapists? Are they all violent animals that needs castrations? I think you people need Sharia law to control your urgesAaand there it is.We get it. You're a bitter cunt that hates men. We know.
>>215129070I'm not redefining anything, it's you people who are doing it by using the word the way you do. >>215129083The left has never stopped talking about those points
>>215129105>it's you people who are doing it by using the word the way you do.Nope
>>215129062White man bad, infinity gay browns good?
>>215129105show me all the politicians talking about taxing their primary source of income. read: the ultra rich, and advocating for the rights of people who can barely make ends meet, much less bribe them.
>>215129128Propaganda is media done with the specific purpose of string up your feels towards the agenda that it's pushing, you people are using it for everything. A movie can have a gay character in it but has nothing to do about it and you cry propaganda, you being exposes to something is not propaganda. Lady Ballers is propaganda, The rise of skywalker is not. >>215129141Bernie Sanders, Mamdani and AOC are doing just that
>>215129179oh right, the plants. i always forget about them.
>>215129062Left idpol:>White people are evil colonizers and must be whipped for their sin of White privledge and must have a boot on their face foreverRight idpol:>a-a-all lives matter?Or in simple terms the left is white bad brown good. There is no self respecting "White" person on the left. They are cucks. They elevate every race but their own
>>215129080Normality cannot be propaganda
>>215129203Your behaviour isn't surprising, you demand proof and then when proof is provided you discard it. You people always do this and then complain about how nobody wants to talk
>>215128689It's amazing how well Star Trek was made, even the episodes that didn't quite work out. The writers had to follow the rules. They couldn't just make shit up, it had to follow the established universe. The model makers, prop people and special effects artists were all at the top of their game.
>>215129062>what are the identity politics of the right? Very clear gender role, patriarchy, religion, ethnicity and nationality
>>215119318>CinemaCan't you an example, but I liked Lucy from the Fallout show.
>>215129179First off, everything with a pride flag is propaganda. By virtue, that is it's entire purpose. It's called pride for a reason.Second, the Blues Clues scene he's talking about was AGGRESSIVELY propaganda. There is literally no other way to interpret it, it is unambiguously one of the gayest things produced and for some reason has black pride in it too.Third of all, if your interviews from producers explicitly says "We put this in here for [Reason]", and that reason is because they want to push an agenda, then yeah. It's propaganda.
>>215129321>everything with a pride flag is propagandaThere you go again with the changing of definitions
>>215129285what has bernie sanders done beyond hoover up a bunch of money and support and then insist all his supporters, instead, support a corporate shill?
>>215129343That's not changing definitions, it is very explicitly communication of a biased nature to push an agenda.That's the nature of flags, and why the pride flag was invented. This is the basest form of propaganda
>>215129353What he can do which isn't a lot when he isn't falling in line
>>215129074jews
>>215129389So... nothing. Got it. Like everyone else talking about anything resembling "left" politics. They talk, they do nothing, then fall in line behind banks, billionaires, and corporations. while screaming about their opposition who also, ultimately support the same things they do.There is only moderate authoritarian mid-right in this country.
>>215129387While flags can be used IN propaganda they are not used AS as flags themselves are symbols meant to represent something. The American flag itself is not propaganda but a picture where people stomp on the flag is propaganda
>>215128977A lot of the time now instead of building a set they'll just use that VR sound stage that looks faker than a matte painting
>>215129062Identity politics of the left:>All people should be treated equally regardless of race, gender and sexualityIdentity politics of the right:>Only straight white males should be allowed to existAnd somehow I'm supposed to believe the left is in the wrong.
>>215129464>Make a genuine post challenge: impossible
>>215129453>The American flag itself is not propaganda but a picture where people stomp on the flag is propagandaNo, American flags are propaganda.Nearly every flag is, at least the national ones are. It is a declaration of supremacy over the territory on which its raised.It's political statement is why stomping on it raises controversy to begin with.
>>215129453in order to claim the american flag isn't propaganda, you'd need to just ignore all the symbolism of the american flag.
>>215129513Not a single post in this thread is genuine, so you're right, it is impossible.
>>215129546lol you'll say ANYTHING
>>215129522>>215129545Your definition of propaganda is so lose that the word has no meaning, if the flag itself is propaganda then you believe everything is. Your favourite media is propaganda , the board game you played as a kid is propaganda even the food you eat is propaganda.
>>215129612so you don't know anything about the american flag and why its 13 stripes and 50 stars.
>>215129612> if the flag itself is propaganda then you believe everything is.No, owning land does not mean I subscribe to any particular belief or ideology.You're intentionally misunderstanding what a flag's purpose is, it's not just a colorful piece of textile.
>>215129681>owning landMeant to say "candy land"
>>215129631>>215129681I know what the symbols on the flags represent but that does not make it propaganda, it's a symbol of representation and identity.
>>215129464>Identity politics of the left:>>All people should be treated equally regardless of race, gender and sexualityThey don't believe that nor do they practice it. Everyone can see it plain as day
>>215129712>it's a symbol of representation and identity.It's a promotion of the cause it represents, what you're describing is just a jersey.
>>215129712the flag is a statement, designed to elicit ideas and emotional reactions, whether the ideas are true or not.
>>215129300>Very clear gender rolebullsht, except what biology demands>,patriarchy,bullshit> religion, stop seething about religion, the values are obectively good and the alternative is worse>ethnicitya truth, not propaganda> and nationalityobjectively good, not porpagandayou get a 2/10 for the effort
>>215129758And a flag is exactly that, a jersey for the nation. >>215129762The flag is only a statement when used as such
>>215129720You only see that because you've mindbroken yourself into thinking more representation of minorities that have been underrepresented for the past 100 years somehow means "we hate white people".
>>215129811>The flag is only a statement when used as suchso every time and everywhere its flown. got it.
>>215129824or calling meritocracy racist is bullshit
>>215129826Again I'm telling you no because a flag by itself is just a symbol, having a pin of the flag is no different from having the flag on your underwear
>>215129464>Identity politics of the left:>>All people should be treated equally regardless of race, gender and sexualityyou don't beieve int ths and don't practice this. Yours is an extremist religion based on homogenization and hatethat's why everyone voted against your regime>Identity politics of the right:>>Only straight white males should be allowed to existthings that never happend. And even if it did on your planet retard, you always hat the option to go back to your original country
>>215129879>a flag by itself is just a symbola symbol of what? use your words.
>>215129811>And a flag is exactly that, a jersey for the nationNo, flags are symbolic and a declaration of ownership where they are raised.
>>215129801But those points are the identity politics of the right>>215129890>things that never happendYet your side is the one who wants a civil war, your side is the one who talks about killing non-whites and the lefts. Your side is the one that wrote The Turner Diaries and idolise it
>>215129911Of the people living under it and the nation it flies over. >>215129915So me putting the flag on my underwear means the state owns my underwear?
>>215129824They are represented in their country of origin, retard.and media are not meant to educate or to function as a therapy session. And you aren't entitled to any place in society that you haven't earnedrepresentation is bullshit theory that you made up out of nothing,tocreade a fake need to useto gather power over minorities that are now more divided, thanks to you
>>215129929>more made up bullshit and projectionleave your stupid cult.
>>215129949>Of the people living under it and the nation it flies over.and what is the american flag saying about these people, the nation, the land, etc? cmon, you can do it.
>>215129949>So me putting the flag on my underwear means the state owns my underwear?It means they own your ass
>>215129824and all of the "we hate white people" talk they engage in...
>>215129982It's saying that those people are Americans >>215129995Fair
>>215130054yep, it's not like they aren't explicit about it
>>215117957If by pushing mental illness you mean that their shitty products inadvertently made former fans into retarded chuds then yes, otherwise just turn off your device and take your meds.
>>215130072>It's saying that those people are AmericansIDs and passports say you're American. Flags say you embody American values.
>>215130144But the values changes
>>215130139no. pushing mental illness
>>215118628by then you'll be a slave in the electronic prison they're building and they won't have to make anything for you to watch
>>215120657TNG aged like milk and TOS is a classic. I'd unironically watch that Janeway cartoon before TNG.
