Why are naruto and one piece enjoyed by people polar opposite to each other?People who talk about naruto online tend to have right-wing views, often anti-woman and anti-gay.People who talk about one piece online are very left-wing. They have socially progressive views of all kindsWhat causes this political discrepency among the viewers of the two biggest shonen?
>narutard tries to launder his shit series through the culture war
>>215122256one piece art is extremely dysgenic
>>215122256Delusional people who can't see beyond what their brainwashing tells them. Naruto and One Piece have nothing to do with that.
>>215122256One Piss is a libtarded story about fighting against Gobermint by causing revolutions and wrecking economies. All the characters are trannycoded, especially that weird freak FrankyNaruto is about protecting your borders and becoming a president of your village
I'm more of Dragonball and HunterxHunter guy myself
>/tv/tards can't fathom a childrens' series because the character designs trigger their autism
>>215122256I dropped both, but I did enjoy Naruto more. Never thought of it that way. I was really into Naruto for a while, dropped it post time skip when it got too gay and retarded. One Piece was just okay to get my shonenshit fix, until I kept being confused when they referenced past stuff and I really didn't care enough to reread it.
>>215122628At least you're not as retarded as me >keep up with OP till Dressrosa as a teenager>get bored and drop it>10 years later randomly get an itch >re-read the whole manga all over again>realise its kinda dogshit but at this point I'm in too deep to stop
I'm not very familiar with Naruto but One Piece has a lot of morals and themes left leaning people would identify with. Standing up to those who abuse their power, challenging unjustified hierarchy, standing up for the little guy, vastly different people of vastly different backgrounds coming together for their love of freedom... It's good stuff.
>>215122439fighting commie government is not lefty, retardnaruto's villains purpose is about making world peace the instant way full of blood, but naruto doesn't like it, better be patient and fight all the struggles that are currently in the way
Naruto=beautifulOne Piece=uglyBeauty is a value in and of itself that the left denies.
>>215122740what about naruto throwing away totalitarian leaders like pain and madara/tobi?
>>215122439The main villain is a one world government and half of the arcs in one piss is luffy trying to restore a benevolent monarchy that was overthrown. Hardly left wing
>>215123181Dunno, I know absolutely nothing about Naruto.
>>215123175the only value of beauty is "nice to look at"genius inventors are more important to humanity than looking prettybesides nature designed everything to vary, ranging from ugly, to average, to beautiful, small and big, black and white, eugenics is against nature, same can be said to life, nature wants every living being to experience death, so life is against nature
one piece is still going on so the fanbase is naturally associated with the norm of social media of 2010s and 2020smost naruto fans are those who likeed it as kids in 2000s
>>215122256Bleach is better than both.
>>215123269I thought only fat women liked bleach, similar to inuyasha
>>215123193not true, monarchy can be left wingbut that depends on what you consider as left wing, is it libtardism or communism
>>215122256Who cares? Bleach is the White man's anime.
as a former diehard ONEPIECE fan who purposely avoided NARUTO because the two were like rivals back in the day. (I started reading ONEPIECE 20 years ago)now i have not kept up with ONEPIECE in years. i dropped it completely at the beginning of Wano.Nowadays i want to start NARUTO. mainly because to see how 'edgy' Sasuke is. I would read 5ch OP discussion threads during Dresrossa arc and people there were like how LAW is basically like Sasuke.
>>215123193>thinks monarchies are right wingHoly retard
>>215122740>standing up for the little guyWhite people are a global minority and so are jews
>>215122256They're all chimo faggot weirdos who don't really understand politics at all. Anime is for children and perverts. No one cares what weird virgin weebs think.
>>215123462Monarchies are right wing by definition.
>>215123453sasuke's writing is bad, he had no purpose beyond killing itachi, but suddenly he cared about enacting justice against evildoers or whatever, and then he suddenly cared about his race for some reason
>>215123579kim jong un family and lenin family are both left
>>215122256Go back to /a/
>>215122256How the fuck do you tranime faggots manage to be more obnoxious and annoying than the fucking Stephaniepedo and Baskinfag at the same time?
>>215122256It’s shrimple. Naruto is based and for high tea sex havers. One Piece is gay faggot shit for furries and for cutting your dick off/constructing a dick from ass skin.
>>215123242>life is against natureNigga did you even read what you wrote? Did you forget your meds?
>>215122256Where do Chad Conan fans fit in?
>>215123453>how edgy is SasukeLiterally his introduction quote: “My name is Sasuke Uchiha. I hate a lot of things, and I don't particularly like anything. What I have is not a dream, because I will make it a reality. I'm going to restore my clan and kill a certain someone."
>>215123721The chad anime fans. Although it seems to have a bigger female fanbase
>>215123491No one counts anywhere outside of America as real, not even people outside of America. There’s America, there’s America’s hat, and then there’s America’s dad. The rest is the third world.
>>215123670your genes tell you to age and die, prolife retard
>>215123751extremely brown comment
>>215122256Not sure, but both are absolute slop and don't belong on the board so... kill yourself.
>>215122256I didn't watch OP, but Naruto reveals genetics are everything. If you don't have alien god DNA you are trash by default. The Ninja government is also unironically fascist as hell and the characters agree with it.
>>215123594Neither of them are monarchs.
>>215122256I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m fairly hardcore right, the only real exception being abortion, and I found Naruto painfully tedious to get through. Mostly because I hate Sasuke as a character. Faggot acts like a psychotic cunt to everyone because he has le tragic backstory, and meanwhile so does everyone else. Then he’s just kind of forgiven at the end, and he barely even apologizes for it, and he gets rewarded with Sakura pussy at the end of the day. At least he didn’t get to fuck Ino, I’d have gotten really pissed about that.I love One Piece though. I haven’t gotten into an ongoing anime/manga series like this since probably DBZ back in the day. I had a very brief love affair with Bleach, but it only lasted for a couple of years, and I look back on it now with almost a level of embarrassment.
>>215123181Naruto is more about restoring peace to the world ninja world by any meansNaruto thinks he can achieve this with diplomacy and forming alliances but in reality he always ends up fightingVillains like Pain and Madara also want peace but they put violence and fear before anythingI think the real reason why Naruto fans are more "right wing" its because the ninja villages have a strong sense of identity and nationalism. In the war arc you can tell they don't really get along with each other but still work together to defeat a greater threat
>>215124049monarchy means: each leader has to be descended from that one family
>>215123751Japan has been America Jr since WW2 as well. US occupation is basically what created modern Japan.
>>215124081No it doesn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witan
>>215124070If you go on twitter, you notice naruto fans are generally manosphere dudebro types who post about powerscaling and hate women+gay people. One piece fans are hasanabi fans that spam sassy negrogifs and complain about fanservice, or israel, or support trannies.
>>215123751Don't forget america: desert island edition and it's tumor
>>215124109counsel is below king, retardthey're not the nation's leadermonarchy is about that one supreme leader
>>215123269I kind of respect the amount of asspulls in Bleach. My favorite being "You thought the Espada went from one to ten?" and him still being absurdly fucking pathetic even after becoming zero.
>>215124080no, naruto is about not giving up and keep fighting the conflicts until the endthe villains are like lazy, and want instant permanent result, tired of constant conflicts
>>215124175What do you think an elective monarchy is?
>>215124080>>215124218>>215122256I found a forum discussion on thishttps://www.fanverse.org/threads/the-ideology-of-the-naruto-manga-is-fundamentally-conservative-right-wing-while-one-piece-is-revolutionary-leftist.1353500/
maybe because success in naruto is based on your birthright and how special you are, and it's popular in the western worldmeanwhile one piece is about how you have to make your own destiny through perseverance and hard work, popular in south america and africa and shiti read one piece for like 100 chapters and it was dogshit
>>215124026>>215122256
>>215124239yes, king has right hand men like prime minister and parliamentbut they're not the actual leader, they're merely number 2I thought we agreed on discussing the number 1 leader
>>215124316>Will of Fireis literally "loves your enemy" cuck ideologyhow the fuck is that right wing?
>>215124425>king has right hand men like prime minister and parliamentThat's not what I'm referring to.>I thought we agreed on discussing the number 1 leaderThis is why you don't talk to ESLs.
>>215123453Naruto is truly a gateway anime of the worst kind. If you want another shonenslop then you might as well just watch anything else.
>>215122256doesn't make sense to me, love naruto couldn't get into one piece and am very left wing
>>215122256>luffy wants to free the world from authoritarian regimes, going island by island defeating dictators. Their ultimate objective is destroy the elite of people who control the world, find a treasure, and become the king of the pirates, being his whole motif "freedom">naruto just wants to become an authoritarian figure becausw he was bullied as a kid.
>>215124081Not really. Search up the definition for monarchy and monarch. According to you, the first king in a monarchy is not a monarch, since they arennot descended from a family of monarchs. If he is not a monarch, then their children wouldn't either.
>>215122256>naruto>anti-gay>series opens up with Naruto accidentally kissing Sasuke and not too long after that Naruto is falling for ladyboy Haku???Not saying OP doesn’t also have gay shit like Okamas and Kiku but this definitely needed pointed out
>>215125704>kisses sasuke>instantly gags in the other way why was kishimoto so homophobic?
>>215125970I don't think you know what homophobic means.
>>215125998>men kissing is disgusting and comedy materialwhat did kishi mean by this
>>215126023>showing boys kissing is homophobic
I hate One Piece more than any other media. Not only is it ugly as all fuck, but every clip I've seen of it uses the most overused anime tropes imaginable. Every shot, every line delivery, every joke seems to come straight out of "anime 101"
>>215122256Kill yourself faggot
>>215124302>one piece is about how you have to make your own destiny through perseverance and hard work
>>215122439>especially that weird freak Frankywtf
>>215122439Fun Fact: Franky was based on Ace Ventura
>>215122256based and redpilled orochimaru tranny
>>215122256>Why do anti progressive people not read the most progressive action series around
>>215124316>>215124450i dont remember what the actuall will of fire is but the senjus all race mixed and killed their precious blood line the story is about how race mixing kills future generations and only certain races senju + uzumaki are good combinations and incest of the uchihas makes literal gods
Does Naruto really have a right wing fanbase or is it just ragebait?Anyway Naruto is a reformist peacekeeper who pulls off a Operation Paperclip with Orochimaru, still maintains the ninja order even if made much safer and his opponents (outside of the alien stuff) are vengeful revolutionaries who want to change the world through terror and self righteous mass violence A.K.A. the leftist idealHim breaking the traditionalist endless war mindset that infested ninja society is irrelevant
>>215124316
go back to /a/ /tv/ is a korean board
>>215122256>The year is 2025>The ninjas versus pirates meme lives on
>>215123453Sasuke is based and high IQ
Lots of people are going to be taken real off balance when they reveal the final arc of one piece. The in-lore Jews rewrote history and established themselves as the leaders of mankind as well as essentially divine. One piece is basically a corollary to the real world if niggers (fishmen) weren't actually incompatible apes. And even then, the first fishmen you meet are slavers holding an island hostage so not exactly noble savages.
>>215122256>Why are naruto and one piece enjoyed by people polar opposite to each other?>>>/a/Why is all of /tv/ so desperate to discuss anime? Is it because there hasn't been a good tv show in the last 10 years or so?
>>215130052OP made this thread with the exact same text on /a/ but we swiftly banned him for spewing his /pol/cel right-wing propaganda.
>>215123581>and then he suddenly cared about his race for some reasonSpeedreader retard
>>215123581It's very subtle because Sasuke acts like an edgy little shit most of the time, but he was always a hardcore believer in justice. He wants revenge against Itachi for obvious reasons, but he also sincerely believes Itachi is pure evil and needs to be put down. The exact second he doesn't need Orochimaru anymore, he betrays and kills him because Orochimaru was evil. When he learns the truth about Itachi, he wants to destroy the leaf village because now he believes the village is evil. A lot of it is Sasuke just trying to do the right thing and punish evil, even though he gets progressively more insane as the show goes on.
>>215122256One Piece manga> Narutos
i watched naruto because it pumped me up to work outi watched one piece because it pumped me up to work outsimple
>>215123314>not true, monarchy can be left wing>but that depends on what you consider as left wingWow! Amazing contribution, captain tardo
>>215130052>Is it because there hasn't been a good tv show in the last 10 years or so?Well yeah, basically
>>215123453Naruto gets considerably worse once you get to Shippuden.
>>215122256Here's my factual opinion based on what little I've seen of both:>Naruto is shit because it's a ton of flashbacks and shouting/crying at each other>One Piece is shit because it has an awful style and terrible voice actorsAvoid both.
I'm a major chud and one piece is the far better series
>>215124302Spics and nogs love Naruto.
>>215134778They only loved Naruto when it turned into DBZ.